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Tue 10/07/03


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 06:41 AM - Hog power (Rayfield, Bill)
     2. 08:15 AM - Re: Hog power (Larry Bourne)
     3. 09:16 AM - Re: electric trim (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
     4. 09:56 AM - Re: Hog power (Paul Petty)
     5. 10:47 AM - brake questions (ul15rhb@juno.com)
     6. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: electric trim (Richard Pike)
     7. 05:02 PM - mykitplane.com (Paul Petty)
     8. 05:13 PM - Rust (Duncan McBride)
     9. 05:28 PM - Fantasy Plane (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
    10. 05:40 PM - Re: brake questions ()
    11. 05:49 PM - Re: mykitplane.com (Hugh)
    12. 06:04 PM - Aileron and flap Gap tapes, WOW! ()
    13. 07:03 PM - Re: brake questions (bryan green)
    14. 07:06 PM - Re: Fantasy Plane (bryan green)
    15. 07:52 PM - Re: brake questions (Richard Pike)
    16. 07:52 PM - Re: brake questions ()
    17. 09:02 PM - Re: brake questions (Larry Bourne)
    18. 09:56 PM - Re: brake questions (Ben Ransom)
    19. 11:52 PM - Re: Re: electric trim (kuffel)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:41:35 AM PST US
    From: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com>
    Subject: Hog power
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com> Anybody seen this? I bet Paul Petty would be interested. www.hog-air.com <www.hog-air.com> Bill Rayfield Kimberly-Clark, Corp. Lexington Mill ph: 336-242-6653 fax: 336-242-6633 This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ==============================================================================


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    Time: 08:15:39 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Hog power
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Neat, but that's terrible news............we all thought Paul was gonna be the 1st. Oh well - hang in there, Paul. Now we know it's proven to work, eh ?? Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Hog power > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com> > > Anybody seen this? I bet Paul Petty would be interested. > > www.hog-air.com <www.hog-air.com> > > > Bill Rayfield > Kimberly-Clark, Corp. > Lexington Mill > ph: 336-242-6653 > fax: 336-242-6633 > > > This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain > privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from > disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please > inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any > printed copy. Thank you. > ============================================================================ == > >


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    Time: 09:16:15 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: electric trim
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Ted Cowan wrote: << Am having difficulty with grasping the wiring set up for the electric trim. This employs the use of the motor from a battery powered (3volt) electric screw driver, black and decker. >> Ted, and other intrepid Kolb experimenters: I read about a fatal plane accident that employed this type of electric trim mechanism, using an electric screwdriver motor. It was on a homebuilt light aircraft, sometime in the past year or 2. Something in the motor/jackscrew mechanism failed (I don't recall exact details) and the surface went to full deflection, resulting in loss of control of the aircraft. Not trying to disuade you from your plans to install it, just passing on some info for thought. Be carful. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, Verner-1400 in Cedar Crest, NM


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    Time: 09:56:52 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: Hog power
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> I'll be darn! That's neat and a real good idea. I called the guy. His name is Bret Ray and has flown it on a Zenith. He is planning on flying it to Daytona for "Biketoberfest" and said he will stop by my place and give me a ride. For those who are interested, here are some numbers that are not on the website. 100+ hp. 220 lbs 2200 rpm cruise, sells the complete package for 8500 bucks. Not bad. He also said he tried the same engine I'm testing but it almost shook the tail feathers off the plane. The engine he is selling is the Twin Cam counterbalanced model. Way smoother running engine and can be upgraded to 95 cu in real easy. Wonder if my Kolbra could support 220 pound engine? hmmm Thanks for the heads up Bill.... pp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Hog power > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com> > > Anybody seen this? I bet Paul Petty would be interested. > > www.hog-air.com <www.hog-air.com> > > > Bill Rayfield > Kimberly-Clark, Corp. > Lexington Mill > ph: 336-242-6653 > fax: 336-242-6633 > > > This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain > privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from > disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please > inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any > printed copy. Thank you. > ============================================================================ == > >


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    Time: 10:47:57 AM PST US
    Subject: brake questions
    From: ul15rhb@juno.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com I've decided to put brakes on my old Firestar. I've flown all these years without them, and about the only time I need them is taxiing downwind on a hard surface or on a downgrade with a plane in front of me. It's a little embarassing to go off on the grass and shut down the engine to avoid an accident. Can any of you guys tell me if the Hegar axle will fit on the kolb gear leg without any modifications? Do the Hegar internal disk brakes work with the offset wheel (they sell two types, offset and symmetrical)? How about the Azuza wheels and brakes, are there any problems with them? I appreciate any help I can get, as I have written many posts over the years and now need some of your help. Thanks, Ralph Burlingame Original Firestar 16 years flying it, and now want some brakes


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    Time: 11:09:02 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: electric trim
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Along that same line, I would suggest a trim tab big enough to be helpful, but small enough to be easily overpowered by a strong arm. Several years ago, on my J-6, I used an electric screwdriver to raise and lower the flaps. I just took out the forward/reverse switch that came on the screwdriver and put the switch in a convenient spot, and used much heavier gauge wire back to the motor/gearbox portion. Worked fine. By the way, it was also a 3 volt system, and works fine on 12 volts. Faster, too... It had no limit switches, just stop nuts on a threaded arm, when it got to the stop nuts, it quit. But I could see when it was getting close. I assume a similar thing would be true of a trim tab? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 05:15 PM 10/7/03 +0100, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM ><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > >Ted Cowan wrote: ><< Am having difficulty with grasping the wiring set up for the electric >trim. This employs the use of the motor from a battery powered (3volt) >electric screw driver, black and >decker. >> > >Ted, and other intrepid Kolb experimenters: > >I read about a fatal plane accident that employed this type of electric trim >mechanism, using an electric screwdriver motor. It was on a homebuilt light >aircraft, sometime in the past year or 2. Something in the motor/jackscrew >mechanism failed (I don't recall exact details) and the surface went to full >deflection, resulting in loss of control of the aircraft. > >Not trying to disuade you from your plans to install it, just passing on >some info for thought. Be carful. > >Dennis Kirby >Mark-3, Verner-1400 in >Cedar Crest, NM > >


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    Time: 05:02:59 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: mykitplane.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Kolbers, I stumbled across a website today www.mykitplanes.com and noticed that TNK was not on their list. So I added them and the Kolbra model. I did see Matronics listed. Looks like a pretty neat site and perhaps a quick way to upload pic's and help TNK promote their product. Check it out... pp <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Kolbers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I stumbled across a website today <A href"http://www.mykitplanes.com">www.mykitplanes.com</A> and noticed that&nbsp;TNK was not on their list. So I added them and the Kolbra model. I did see Matronics listed. Looks like a pretty neat site and perhaps a quick way to upload pic's and help TNK promote their product. Check it out...</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>pp</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>


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    Time: 05:13:19 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
    Subject: Rust
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net> Well, I'm back home in 90-degree, 90% humid Florida, and while I'm feeling pretty good about it, Honey B is back to rusting. This was my first airplane, and I thought I did a decent job of sandblasting the cage and spraying it with epoxy primer, but there are thin areas where faint rust is showing, and some scrapes and scratches that I have to attend to. Some of these scrapes are down in the bottom of the cage and I'd like to sand down to bare metal and prime with something more rust preventive than the PolyFibre Epoxy (which doesn't seem to adhere well unless the surface is darn near perfect), then cover the inside of the cage frame with PolyFiber tape, PolyBrush, and PolyTone. This would keep moisture away from the tubing and be easer to keep clean . Any suggestions on cleaners, primers, etc., that would be compatible with the PolyFiber products? Thanks, guys. <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Well, I'm back home in 90-degree, 90% humid Florida, and while I'm feeling pretty good about it, Honey B is back to rusting.&nbsp; This was my first airplane, and I thought I did a decent job of sandblasting the cage and spraying it with epoxy primer, but there are thin areas where faint rust is showing, and some scrapes and scratches that I have to attend to.&nbsp; Some of these scrapes are down in the bottom of the cage and I'd like to sand down to bare metal and prime with something more rust preventive than the PolyFibre Epoxy (which doesn't seem to adhere well unless the surface is darn near perfect), then cover the inside of the cage frame with PolyFiber tape, PolyBrush, and PolyTone.&nbsp; This would keep moisture away from the tubing and be easer to keep clean .&nbsp; Any suggestions on cleaners, primers, etc., that would be compatible with the PolyFiber products?&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks, guys.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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    Time: 05:28:43 PM PST US
    From: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
    Subject: Fantasy Plane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com If money was no object could a firestar be built entirely of titinium , covered with kevlar ,totaly streamlined ,retractable gear and be powered by a (probibly non existant) turbo-prop engine .... oh well we can all dream ...LOL ....Dave <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT COLOR"#0000ff" SIZE5 FAMILY= "DECORATIVE" FACE"Bauhaus 93" LANG"0"><I>If money was no object cou= ld a firestar be built&nbsp; entirely of titinium , covered with kevlar ,tot= aly streamlined ,retractable gear and be powered by a (probibly non existant= ) turbo-prop engine .... oh well we can all dream ...LOL ....Dave </I></FONT= ></HTML>


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    Time: 05:40:00 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: brake questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Ralph, I can't offer you any experience with the Hegar or Azuzu brake set ups, but I am using Matco units on my Mk-3 and they are Great. Fellow lister John Richmond had a set from the Mk-3 he was parting out a couple weeks ago, you might want to check with him to see if he still has em. I was thinking about buying them for my next project, (Sonex) but I figured I had better wait awile as Linda would kill me if I started building another plane so soon. Take Care, Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: <ul15rhb@juno.com> Subject: Kolb-List: brake questions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com > > > I've decided to put brakes on my old Firestar. I've flown all these years without them, and about the only time I need them is taxiing downwind on a hard surface or on a downgrade with a plane in front of me. It's a little embarassing to go off on the grass and shut down the engine to avoid an accident. > > Can any of you guys tell me if the Hegar axle will fit on the kolb gear leg without any modifications? Do the Hegar internal disk brakes work with the offset wheel (they sell two types, offset and symmetrical)? > > How about the Azuza wheels and brakes, are there any problems with them? > > I appreciate any help I can get, as I have written many posts over the years and now need some of your help. > > Thanks, > Ralph Burlingame > Original Firestar > 16 years flying it, and now want some brakes > >


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    Time: 05:49:41 PM PST US
    From: "Hugh" <hmhumes@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: mykitplane.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hugh" <hmhumes@comcast.net> I believe that's www.mykitplane.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Subject: Kolb-List: mykitplane.com > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > > Kolbers, > I stumbled across a website today www.mykitplanes.com and noticed that > TNK was not on their list. So I added them and the Kolbra model. I did > see Matronics listed. Looks like a pretty neat site and perhaps a quick > way to upload pic's and help TNK promote their product. Check it out... > > pp > > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" nameGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Kolbers,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I stumbled across a website today <A > href"http://www.mykitplanes.com">www.mykitplanes.com</A> and noticed > that&nbsp;TNK was not on their list. So I added them and the Kolbra > model. I did > see Matronics listed. Looks like a pretty neat site and perhaps a quick > way to > upload pic's and help TNK promote their product. Check it > out...</FONT></DIV> > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>pp</FONT></DIV> > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML> > >


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    Time: 06:04:31 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Aileron and flap Gap tapes, WOW!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> Kolbers, OK, I finally broke down today and installed the book binding tapes in the gaps between the wing, ailerons, and flaps. Well truth be told, Linda did it while I changed spark plugs and pretended to be busy, :-) I hate that arts and crafts type of work. Upon taking off for the first time with the tapes I was astounded at the change in performance of my Mk-3. It feels as if someone released the emergency brake and installed power steering. The climb rate is close to 200 fpm better solo, the roll response is way quicker and much lighter, the sink rate is slower, and one notch of flaps feels like it used to with no flaps. The plane even floats a little on round out to landing, before it would just pretty much stop as soon as you rounded out. I ran her up to full throttle in level flight solo and actually saw 90mph, thats 8 mph more than I had before installing the tapes. Now I am wondering how the factory guys at TNK were able to install their tapes so nicely with no fingerprints and bubbles? I am going to try to locate white book binding tapes to replace these clear ones, figure that way the prints won't show. Sincerely, Denny (Now I understand how a Kolb is supposed to handle) Rowe Mk-3 N616DR, 2SI 690L-70, PA PS: We used the 3M 845, 3 inch wide with the 1.5 inch face to face with it. <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Kolbers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>OK, I finally broke down today and installed the book binding tapes in the gaps between the wing, ailerons, and flaps. Well truth be told, Linda did it while I changed spark plugs and pretended to be busy, :-) I hate that arts and crafts type of work.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Upon taking off for the first time with the tapes I was astounded at the change in performance of my Mk-3. It feels as if someone released the emergency brake and installed power steering. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>The climb rate is close to 200 fpm better solo, the roll response is way quicker and much lighter, the sink rate is slower, and one notch of flaps feels like it used to with no flaps.&nbsp; The plane even floats a little on round out to landing, before it would just pretty much stop as soon as you rounded out.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I ran her up to full throttle in level flight solo and actually saw 90mph, thats 8 mph more than I had before installing the tapes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Now I am wondering how the factory guys at TNK were able to install their tapes so nicely with no fingerprints and bubbles?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I am going to try to locate white book binding tapes to replace these clear ones, figure that way the prints won't show.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Denny (Now I understand how a Kolb is supposed to handle) Rowe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>&nbsp;Mk-3 N616DR, 2SI 690L-70, PA</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>PS: We used the 3M 845, 3 inch&nbsp;wide with the 1.5 inch face to face with it. </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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    Time: 07:03:12 PM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: brake questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> I would like to know about this also since I went into a friends short field lately and had to go between the fence post and down towards the barn to stop. How about the hydraulic brakes? Bryan Green (Elgin SC) ----- Original Message ----- From: <ul15rhb@juno.com> Subject: Kolb-List: brake questions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com > > > I've decided to put brakes on my old Firestar. I've flown all these years without them, and about the only time I need them is taxiing downwind on a hard surface or on a downgrade with a plane in front of me. It's a little embarassing to go off on the grass and shut down the engine to avoid an accident. > > Can any of you guys tell me if the Hegar axle will fit on the kolb gear leg without any modifications? Do the Hegar internal disk brakes work with the offset wheel (they sell two types, offset and symmetrical)? > > How about the Azuza wheels and brakes, are there any problems with them? > > I appreciate any help I can get, as I have written many posts over the years and now need some of your help. > > Thanks, > Ralph Burlingame > Original Firestar > 16 years flying it, and now want some brakes > >


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    Time: 07:06:51 PM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fantasy Plane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> I like the way you think. Do not archive. Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar I 377 BRS ----- Original Message ----- From: <BMWBikeCrz@aol.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Fantasy Plane > --> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com > > > If money was no object could a firestar be built entirely of titinium , > covered with kevlar ,totaly streamlined ,retractable gear and be powered by a > (probibly non existant) turbo-prop engine .... oh well we can all dream ...LOL > ....Dave > > > <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT COLOR"#0000ff" SIZE5 FAMILY= > "DECORATIVE" FACE"Bauhaus 93" LANG"0"><I>If money was no object cou= > ld a firestar be built&nbsp; entirely of titinium , covered with kevlar ,tot= > aly streamlined ,retractable gear and be powered by a (probibly non existant= > ) turbo-prop engine .... oh well we can all dream ...LOL ....Dave </I></FONT= > ></HTML> > >


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    Time: 07:52:16 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: brake questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> I am using the Azusa go-cart brake drums & backing plates, they work just fair on the MKIII, probably real well on something lighter. Wicks Aircraft sells them,. page 158 on their online catalog, http://www.wicksaircraft.com/gotopage.php?page=158 I have mine bolted to the original Kolb steel wheels, it took some careful jigging to get the bolt holes drilled in the right places, probably much easier if I had used the Azusa wheels. You need part #'s AZ2208A backing plate, AZ2211 drum, and AZ2259A mounting platform to make it fit on the Kolb wheel, if you use the Azusa wheel, you probably don't need the platform. Plus you need some stop nuts and cable adjusters, at the bottom right side of the page. Low tech stuff, but no problems in 350+ hours. I am using a handle pivoted at the bottom, alongside my left thigh, and pull the brakes with my left hand. This winter I will probably change the one handle to two so I have individual brakes, right now both cables are tied together at the handle, but flying (and taxiing) Steve Green's MKIII with individual brakes spoiled me.... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 05:39 PM 10/7/03 +0000, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com > > >I've decided to put brakes on my old Firestar. I've flown all these years >without them, and about the only time I need them is taxiing downwind on a >hard surface or on a downgrade with a plane in front of me. It's a little >embarassing to go off on the grass and shut down the engine to avoid an >accident. > >Can any of you guys tell me if the Hegar axle will fit on the kolb gear >leg without any modifications? Do the Hegar internal disk brakes work with >the offset wheel (they sell two types, offset and symmetrical)? > >How about the Azuza wheels and brakes, are there any problems with them? > >I appreciate any help I can get, as I have written many posts over the >years and now need some of your help. > >Thanks, >Ralph Burlingame >Original Firestar >16 years flying it, and now want some brakes > >


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    Time: 07:52:23 PM PST US
    From: <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: brake questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: brake questions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> > > I would like to know about this also since I went into a friends short field > lately and had to go between the fence post and down towards the barn to > stop. How about the hydraulic brakes? > Bryan Green Bryan, The Matco hydralic disks are sweet. Denny Rowe Mk-3


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    Time: 09:02:39 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: brake questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Vamoose' Matco wheels, tires, extra tires, brakes, and aluminum landing gear legs will be for sale very soon. All are new..........sorta. Tires are 6.00x6. Anyone ?? What do you guys figure a fair price would be ?? Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <rowedl@highstream.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: brake questions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: brake questions > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> > > > > I would like to know about this also since I went into a friends short > field > > lately and had to go between the fence post and down towards the barn to > > stop. How about the hydraulic brakes? > > Bryan Green > > Bryan, > The Matco hydralic disks are sweet. > Denny Rowe > Mk-3 > >


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    Time: 09:56:04 PM PST US
    From: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: brake questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com> I have Azusa wheels and had their drum brakes too, when new. This on a FS, and I still really disliked them. Took them off early in my plane's life. They weren't concentric so smooth brake pressure was unattainable, and even when they grabbed every time around, the stopping force was pretty poor. Weighing about 7lbs if I recall, this wasn't worth it. I made very light brakes and although recently reported they were terrible, they are not so bad after minor adjustment a few weeks ago. Nonetheless, I'm going to upgrade too. I was thinking of trying some "Avid" cable disk brakes (for mtn bikes), but decided instead to try some band brakes from www.northerntool.com for about $20 per side (if interested, search on band brakes at that site.) The Avids get rave reviews from the bike people and are super light, but I'm guessing the band brakes might be more effective, especially at our taxi speed. They are cable actuated, probably lighter than the Azusa drum brakes, and reportedly, there is noticable "regenerative" braking effect by having the band being pulled in the same direction of rotation as the drum. I'll need to weld a cable stop mount to my axle fittings. I'll report back after installing and trying them out. -Ben ===== http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom __________________________________


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    Time: 11:52:18 PM PST US
    From: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net>
    Subject: Re: electric trim
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net> Ted & Dennis, <<fatal plane accident that employed this type of electric trim mechanism, using an electric screwdriver motor. .. Something in the motor/jackscrew mechanism failed .. full deflection>> Of course, any electric trim is subject to this problem. The circuit I described has fewer ways to get to the problem than some arrangements. Here, no failure at the motor and limit switches area can cause full deflection. To fail either both poles of the control switch must short to the same side or exactly the correct two wires must short to power and ground. (This is why the positive power must go through the limit switches, otherwise a third failure mode exists.) As unlikely as this failure is, good practice dictates the circuit breaker be of the pull off type and be located right next to the control switch. This is the arrangement on my homebuilt Prospector with both electric flaps and trim. The two controls are widely separated and since my hand is used to finding either control I would have (hopefully) little trouble finding the adjacent circuit breaker. Do Not Archive Tom Kuffel Whitefish, MT Building Original FireStar




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