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1. 03:43 AM - airport complaints (Airgriff2@aol.com)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: airport complaints (Bob Bean)
3. 05:04 AM - Re: airport complaints (ul15rhb@juno.com)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: Cutting the tail off yer shirt (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
5. 06:14 AM - Re: airport complaints (Richard Pike)
6. 07:42 AM - Airport noise dispute (Kirk Smith)
7. 08:01 AM - Firestar Questions (Jo and Larry)
8. 08:17 AM - Re: Taking Connection Speed & Computer Specs For (jerb)
9. 08:29 AM - Re: 89 FS (Thom Riddle)
10. 08:38 AM - Re: airport complaints (Mhqqqqq@aol.com)
11. 09:17 AM - Re: airport complaints (Bob Bean)
12. 09:57 AM - Craig's MKIII (ALEMBIC7@aol.com)
13. 10:17 AM - Re: Taking Connection Speed & Copmuter Specs For Granted ??? (Don Gherardini)
14. 11:28 AM - Re: airport complaints (CaptainRon)
15. 12:41 PM - Re: airport complaints (Timandjan@aol.com)
16. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: Cutting the tail off yer shirt message of Sat, 1 Nov 2003 ... (GeoR38@aol.com)
17. 01:56 PM - kolb slingshot (Ted Cowan)
18. 02:41 PM - Intake silencer for Rotax 377 (Thom Riddle)
19. 03:06 PM - Re: 89 FS (jerb)
20. 03:07 PM - Don's Firefly (Bill Vincent)
21. 03:17 PM - Re: airport complaints (jerb)
22. 04:29 PM - MZ engine (Kirk Smith)
23. 05:27 PM - Mk3 912 throttle (H MITCHELL)
24. 05:39 PM - Re: Don's Firefly (Linda Rowe)
25. 05:53 PM - Re: Mk3 912 throttle (Jim Clayton)
26. 05:55 PM - M3X throttle configuration (Jim Clayton)
27. 06:07 PM - Re: Firestar Questions (Larry Cottrell)
28. 07:35 PM - Re: AZ Lurker (FlyColt45@aol.com)
29. 10:33 PM - [ Craig Nelson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
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| Subject: | airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned by a golf coarse, with the
owners blessing. We are helping him by paying for insurance etc. As a result of
all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
we are now getting home owners surrounding the strip coming over and
complaining about the noise and asking why do we fly over their houses. We explained
that we are required to fly certain patterns by the FAA and have to fly base and
final, which puts us going around their houses.
My question is can the people raise enough stink to shut down the field
somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional) can we fly as we want? We have
already restricted our take off untill after 9 am on Sunday mornings as a
result of a complaint.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Rule no.1 : always try to get along with your neighbor, even if he's a
#&@. You and
your flying buds should agree amongst yourselves to adhere to a strict
pattern
that involves flying over no ones house. -strange how people somehow think
that you are going to dive straight into their rooftop in the event of
an engine out.
Then if possible arrange a neighborhood meeting for discussion. You have
to be a really good politician for this event. The one thing that will
bring a
questionable neighbor into your camp is a free ride or two. -BB do not
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Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
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>A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned by a golf coarse, with the
>owners blessing. We are helping him by paying for insurance etc. As a result of
>all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
>we are now getting home owners surrounding the strip coming over and
>complaining about the noise and asking why do we fly over their houses.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
-- Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
My question is can the people raise enough stink to shut down the field
somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional) can we fly as we want? We have
already restricted our take off untill after 9 am on Sunday mornings as a
result of a complaint.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
There was a very nice airpark that was shut down in the last few years in the area.
It was all GA pilots in a flying community with homes/hangers on the strip.
Some rich old lady nearby claimed the noise was endangering a species of bird
in the valley and the court ruled in her favor. Sad but true. If neigbors ban
together, they can take action and shut down an airpark.
Ralph
Original Firestar
16 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting the tail off yer shirt |
message of Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:56:24 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
Ron, your story brings back memories....
I was scheduled for an evening training flight and had no idea that I
was to solo that evening.
My instructor was a retired full colonel in the Air Force and set in his
ways. We did about a half hours worth of air work and he said to land
and taxi up to the office, saying something like.."I need to take a
leak." When we got there, he got out and said for me to make three
take-offs and landings to a full stop. When I finished, he walked out
to me with the biggest pair of scissors I'd ever seen. Seriously, they
had to be a foot long! He then proceeded to cut the back out of my
sweater, saying..." you can always get a new shirt, but you only solo
one time."
Wellll....the catch was, I was wearing a brand-new sweater that my
(ex) wife had given me for my birthday just two days before!! She hated
flying anyway....and I always felt that she held that sweater incident
against me till the day we split. The back of that sweater is hanging
in my living room to this day. I wouldn't take a thousand dollars for
it, or the memories.
Those were the days.....
Mike in West Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Being a public strip on the sectional is worth nothing. They probably can
shut you down if they get organized enough. I don't have all the answers,
but having spent years as an air traffic controller and fielding calls from
angry citizens griping about airplanes, and having also successfully flown
out of a field next to a subdivision for years with no complaints, here are
a few things that might help:
Noise reduction.
Since you have a problem, spend the money for intake silencers and after
mufflers, it will be cheap in the long run. Maybe some aircraft can accept
prop hub extensions to get the prop further away from the trailing edge? It
all makes things quieter.
Noise abatement.
Is the strip long enough that you can climb high quickly and then throttle
back to a safe rpm by the time you get to the airstrip boundary? Since you
are on golf course, maybe you can use the confines of the course to
implement this? An airplane's "noise footprint" is worse pretty much just
below it, and if you are back to cruise power by the boundary, that will help.
Flight patterns.
No closed traffic. No touch and goes or low approaches. Period. After you
takeoff, go away. Go somewhere else to play around. Anybody who is not a
team player on this gets his rear end chewed by all the rest of the local
pilots, no exceptions. Is there a clear path that does not overfly homes to
and from the golf course/air strip area? Use it, and then keep your landing
pattern inside the golf course. If there is no clear path, can you climb to
at least 500' agl before you depart the confines of the golf course? Low
flying over homes is readily perceived as threatening, stay high, both in
and out. Be creative, not adversarial against the home owners. What ever
you can come up with that is safe and avoids overflying the houses, or at
least over flys them at or above 500' agl, make that SOP for your strip and
make sure everybody knows it.
Then post a BIG sign outlining these actions in a prominent place and when
the complainers come to complain, point to it. Point out that you are all
spending big bucks on noise reduction (silencers, etc.) so that you can be
good neighbors. Also that you are working to the limit within the FAR's to
avoid overflying the homes, (prominent sign, rules against no pattern work,
preferred flight paths, etc.) so that they realize that you are really
getting serious about being good neighbors.
Public Relations.
If you have some mature, personable pilots with legal, trustworthy
airplanes on the field, get them to offer and take as many locals as you
can for a ride and let them experience the joy you have in your flight.
Make sure it is a calm, late afternoon with no turbulence to terrify the
newbies, and all maneuvers gentle and non threatening. Win as many of the
locals to your side as possible. Especially the complainers. (If possible)
The EAA's Young Eagles program is excellent public relations, will that
work for you in your situation?
Good luck.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 06:42 AM 11/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
>
>A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned by a golf coarse, with the
>owners blessing. We are helping him by paying for insurance etc. As a
>result of
>all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
>we are now getting home owners surrounding the strip coming over and
>complaining about the noise and asking why do we fly over their houses. We
>explained
>that we are required to fly certain patterns by the FAA and have to fly
>base and
>final, which puts us going around their houses.
> My question is can the people raise enough stink to shut down the field
>somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional) can we fly as we want? We
>have
>already restricted our take off untill after 9 am on Sunday mornings as a
>result of a complaint.
>
>Fly Safe
>Bob Griffin
>
>
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| Subject: | Airport noise dispute |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Back in 1970 when I was learning to fly I was practicing T&L in a PA 12 when I
had a model rocket fly right through in front of my nose on final. Found out after
landing that there was a dispute going on there over noise, etc. Those things
can get out of hand. Kirk
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| Subject: | Firestar Questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
Hello Group,
A friend and I just purchased a completed Firestar II kit. I have a couple
of questions on options. What is the opinion on streamlined lift struts? Any
advantage other than looks? Also the upholstery package. Is it worth the
money? We would need front and rear.
I am sure I will have a million other questions so any advise would be
appriciated. We will be installing a 503 and would love to hear from other
firestar owners on or off list.
Thanks in advance,
Larry Autin
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| Subject: | Re: Taking Connection Speed & Computer Specs For |
Granted ???
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Granted ???
Dave,
You have to much money or are not spending enough on airplanes.
Crawling along with a 800-MHz P3 Win 98 & 1.5Mb DSL
jerb
At 12:01 AM 11/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
>
>I read my mail when I have about 1000 pieces and saw someone mentioning the
>html "giberish" at the end of posts ...
>
>was wondering how many people on the list are running slow connections (below
>28.8 or less) , WEB TV , or computers 300 mhz or slower or an older OS than
>win 98 ...
>
>I take for granted folks are running 1 ghz + and broadband of some kind ....
>I am asking this to see hoe wrong I am ...
>
>Kind of like flying a firefly with a 277 Rotax ... :-) (I wold do it )
>
>
>Dave
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I do not know if the MK3 wing will fit the FS cage. However, there is a lot more
to establishing a safe gross weight limit than just the wing. Landing gear strength
and empenage position and sizing come to mind not to mention the cage
being designed to transmit and distribute the increased loading, etc. etc. etc.
Thom R.
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
the place I fly from has a party once a year. it started out inviting all the
people who live in the area and had a little BBQ. now the party gets about 70
to 80 planes and ultralights to show up. also we get about 500 people. last
year was the 11th year.
some of you may come to it. it is in wanamingo mn.
so maybe you could have them come to an annual party and have a fly-in on the
same day, give a few rides and see if it gets good reviews by the people who
live there.
let them know they com come and watch anytime they want and bring friends as
well.
mark
twinstar
wanamingo,mn
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Mark is right on.....I have personally observed how stuffy, cliqueish
and snobby
some of the clubs can be. When a curious fellow approaches, be friendly.
The worst I ever saw was a sailplane club, one of the friendliest is
the EEA
chapter at Brown Field in San Diego. -BB do not archive
Mhqqqqq@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
>
>the place I fly from has a party once a year. it started out inviting all the
>people who live in the area and had a little BBQ. now the party gets about 70
>to 80 planes and ultralights to show up. also we get about 500 people. last
>year was the 11th year.
>
>some of you may come to it. it is in wanamingo mn.
>
>so maybe you could have them come to an annual party and have a fly-in on the
>same day, give a few rides and see if it gets good reviews by the people who
>live there.
>let them know they com come and watch anytime they want and bring friends as
>well.
>
>mark
>twinstar
>wanamingo,mn
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ALEMBIC7@aol.com
Uncle Craig and Nephew Tim were gracious enough to invite this lurker to
their garage in Gilbert AZ saturday to view a Kolb MkIIIxtra up close and
personal...what a beautiful plane they're building! That engine cowling and instrument
pod are both works of art...I'm still trying to decide what plane to build,
Kolb, Gull, CH701. If only the Kolb were Aluminum...
Thanks Craig and Tim and Larry for your hospitality and information.
AZ lurker
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| Subject: | Re: Taking Connection Speed & Copmuter Specs For Granted ??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Dave , here at work, we are hooked up directly thru a T-1. The computer I
normally use here is a p-4 1.2
At home, I have broadband wireless...usually get around 400 up an down,
unless its foggy. I have a P-4 1500/512 meg ddr
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Don Gherardini
Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
If you have a private strip you can fly whatever
pattern you like. Even in the AIM the pattern we fly
is a recommended pattern. Off a Golf course you guys
can fly anything you wish.
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--- Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
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> A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned by
> a golf coarse, with the
> owners blessing. We are helping him by paying for
> insurance etc. As a result of
> all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been
> relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
> we are now getting home owners surrounding the strip
> coming over and
> complaining about the noise and asking why do we fly
> over their houses. We explained
> that we are required to fly certain patterns by the
> FAA and have to fly base and
> final, which puts us going around their houses.
> My question is can the people raise enough stink
> to shut down the field
> somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional) can
> we fly as we want? We have
> already restricted our take off untill after 9 am on
> Sunday mornings as a
> result of a complaint.
>
> Fly Safe
> Bob Griffin
>
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Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
In a message dated 11/3/03 8:05:29 AM, ul15rhb@juno.com writes:
>
> My question is=A0 can the people raise enough stink to shut down the field
> somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional) can we fly as we want?=A0=20We
> have
> already restricted our take off untill after 9 am on Sunday mornings as a
> result of a complaint.
>
>
You bet they can shut you down. 2 good friends of mine in Louisiana bought
land, build a strip and one built his house there as well. They were in the
country, then a subdivision was built nearby. They had an official license from
the state to have an airport and followed all the rules and only the 2 of them
flew their ultralights from there. The airport was official for GA traffic as
well but onlt the 2 ultralights flew from there. There was one owner who
started the complaints, went all the way to federal court, the end result was that
they were shut down. Both my friends got discusted and sold and moved to
Florida. Everytime they flew, the neighbor called the sheriff, he would come by
and
make a report and even thought he said they were in compliance, he was
obligated to come and make the report. I landed there once and he paid a visit
while
I was there, same story. It became quite a fight between the neighbors, got
ugly at the end.
ever wonder why people build next to an airport, knowing it's an airport then
start complaining. Same think happening where I fly now. The airport is the
oldest airport in Virginia, so we try hard to avoid the homes that complain, no
flyovers and we iinvite them to all the barbecues and flyings, what can we
do.
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting the tail off yer shirt message of Sat, 1 Nov |
2003 ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 11/3/03 8:46:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dixieshack@webtv.net writes:
> Ron, your story brings back memories....
> I was scheduled for an evening training flight and had no idea that I
> was to solo that evening.
> My instructor was a retired full colonel in the Air Force and set in his
> ways. We did about a half hours worth of air work and he said to land
> and taxi up to the office, saying something like.."I need to take a
> leak." When we got there, he got out and said for me to make three
> take-offs and landings to a full stop. When I finished, he walked out
> to me with the biggest pair of scissors I'd ever seen. Seriously, they
> had to be a foot long! He then proceeded to cut the back out of my
> sweater, saying..." you can always get a new shirt, but you only solo
> one time."
> Wellll....the catch was, I was wearing a brand-new sweater that my
> (ex) wife had given me for my birthday just two days before!! She hated
> flying anyway....and I always felt that she held that sweater incident
> against me till the day we split. The back of that sweater is hanging
> in my living room to this day. I wouldn't take a thousand dollars for
> it, or the memories.
> Those were the days.....
>
> Mike in West Virginia
>
> do not archive
> Mike you tell the most heartfelt, down to earth, bittersweet, realistic,
> ....stories...and they are even true!!
> georgeRandolph
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
After having scaned all available info, I have come to the table with my hat in
my hand and ask the list a couple questions. Firstly: On a Slingshot with the
low exhaust, the motor is mounted high 2" plus on stilts as it were, to allow
for the wing fold to work. now, mounted high as that, creates a pusher problem.
The question is two fold: Should plates or fender washers be used to keep
the mounts from being compressed too far? Can the mounts be reversed (upside
down) to keep from using all the extension spacer required? Now, the problem
to ponder is this, in order to get the prop to a proper angle for flight,
there must be at least 3/4 of an inch difference in the spacers, i.e., the rear
must be higher than the front of the engine. I have changed my mounting to
3/4 inch higher in the rear and it seems to work fine but I feel more could be
in order. Can I reverse the mounts? Should I keep the motor in tight to keep
it from dumping to the front during take-off? Doesnt seem to be many out there.
Someone HAS to have had the same problem. What is the fix? Other than
that, it flies great the way it is but I think some tweeking is in order to keep
the plates from stressing. thanks. A good one for all the genius' out there.
If the boom if straight during flight, what angle should the blades be in
relation to the boom on the ground? Ted Cowan.
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| Subject: | Intake silencer for Rotax 377 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Does anyone have any experience with intake silencers on Rotax 2-stroke engines?
Specifically, does the sound reduction seem to be worth the cost? Is there much
of a power loss? Any experiences at all will be welcomed.
Thom R.
early FS 377
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Gee I almost hate to post this and open this topic up again but isn't there
some with a 5 rib versus a 7 rib wing? Do a search of the Kolb list
archives. See the search link below at towards the bottom of the message.
jerb
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At 11:30 AM 11/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
>
>I do not know if the MK3 wing will fit the FS cage. However, there is a
>lot more to establishing a safe gross weight limit than just the wing.
>Landing gear strength and empenage position and sizing come to mind not to
>mention the cage being designed to transmit and distribute the increased
>loading, etc. etc. etc.
>
>Thom R.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Don Gherardini
Congratulations !
I saw your plane in the November 2003, Experimenter Magazine, under
Member Projects, it looks beautiful!
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Could adjusting your pattern help the situation. Say all traffic to one
side of the runway or the other, in other words incorporate right hand
traffic for one landing direction. We used to do that when there was an
aerobatic box adjacent to the runway but once the property under it was
sold and as the airport is becoming encroached upon, it was decided to go
back to standard left hand turn traffic for both landing directions. This
would spread the traffic over both sides of the airport depending upon wind
direction influencing the active runway. Another thing is what altitude
are you flying the pattern at - some UL pilots think it cute to fly
low. Last a little late in the season but what time do the lawn mower and
weed wackers start running on weekend days?
jerb
At 11:27 AM 11/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
>If you have a private strip you can fly whatever
>pattern you like. Even in the AIM the pattern we fly
>is a recommended pattern. Off a Golf course you guys
>can fly anything you wish.
>
>
>=================================
>--- Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
> >
> > A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned by
> > a golf coarse, with the
> > owners blessing. We are helping him by paying for
> > insurance etc. As a result of
> > all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been
> > relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
> > we are now getting home owners surrounding the strip
> > coming over and
> > complaining about the noise and asking why do we fly
> > over their houses. We explained
> > that we are required to fly certain patterns by the
> > FAA and have to fly base and
> > final, which puts us going around their houses.
> > My question is can the people raise enough stink
> > to shut down the field
> > somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional) can
> > we fly as we want? We have
> > already restricted our take off untill after 9 am on
> > Sunday mornings as a
> > result of a complaint.
> >
> > Fly Safe
> > Bob Griffin
> >
> >
> >
> > Click on the
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> >
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>
>=====
>Ron
>Building M3X
>Southern Arizona
>
>__________________________________
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
You guys seen this engine yet? http://www.compactradialengines.com/spmz202.html
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| Subject: | Mk3 912 throttle |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:26:42 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Thanks to those who responded to my request for info on the touchy Mk3 classic
912 throttle setup. I tested my redesigned throttle lever Saturday and it was
a great improvement over the original. I will be pleased to share the drawing
for the improved design with anyone who needs it. This list really works.
Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL Mk3/912 & FireFly SN 007
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| Subject: | Re: Don's Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Linda Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Hi Don Gherardini
>
> Congratulations !
>
> I saw your plane in the November 2003, Experimenter Magazine, under
> Member Projects, it looks beautiful!
>
> Bill Vincent
> Firestar II
> Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
>
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>
>
>I got my issue today, Much Kudos on a beautiful Fly Don, Well done!
Denny Rowe
Mk-3 PA
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| Subject: | Mk3 912 throttle |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton <jspc78@yahoo.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL"
<mitchmnd@msn.com>
I will be pleased to share the drawing for the
improved design with anyone who needs it. This list
really works.
Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL Mk3/912 & FireFly SN
007
Hi Duane/all
Please do send the drawing.
Thanks, Jim
Jim Clayton
California
Mark-3X, Building
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| Subject: | M3X throttle configuration |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton <jspc78@yahoo.com>
Greetings all,
The factory demonstrator and the drawings have a
throttle lever for each seat, but some of the pictures
of completed Mark 3's I've seen on the web have a
traditional single throttle lever in the center, which
I would prefer. Since my cage is about to be welded
up, any advice to best prepare the cage for the
single, center throttle? Should I ask TNK to skip
installing the dual throttles?
-Jim
Jim Clayton
California
Mark-3X, Building
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
. What is the opinion on streamlined lift struts? Any
> advantage other than looks? >
This post will cover three of the messages posted on the list.
Struts,Silencers, and computer speed.
First the streamlined struts that I have are the plastic ones that were
available from Kolb at a fairly reasonable price, savings about 2 MPH. I
like them!
I have a 447 with the intake silencer on it and I wouldn't trade it
for anything. It makes the plane a lot quieter on the ground and takes away
that high pitched whine inside of the plane. Perhaps there is a bit of power
loss, but in my opinion it is well worth it.
Then there is the computer speed. Mine chugs along at 24600. Blinding
speed for this part of the country.
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Larry, Oregon
Does anyone have any experience with intake silencers on Rotax 2-stroke
engines? Specifically, does the sound reduction seem to be worth the cost?
Is there much of a power loss? Any experiences at all will be welcomed.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: FlyColt45@aol.com
*Hopefully - serious and useful advice on your project*
If Kolb's WERE aluminum, me and a whole lot of other pilots wouldn't be
around to be wiser pilots. A fender bender (incidents or accidents), in an
aluminum craft could cost more than money! I've owned 3 Kolbs and enjoyed them
all.
I for one would not be flying (or walking for that matter) if not for the
protection of that 4130 Kolb cage & steel landing gear. Ain't the prettiest -
Not the fastest, but damn near the safest for what it does. My 2 cents : )
Regards, Jim Cote' (MKIIIs)
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