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1. 01:14 AM - Fiberglass tank hardware? (Duncan McBride)
2. 04:14 AM - Re: Original Firestar Totalled (bryan green)
3. 05:19 AM - Pattern (Rex Rodebush)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
5. 06:20 AM - Re: Pattern (ul15rhb@juno.com)
6. 07:44 AM - Fw: CMLF Fish Fry Flyin (Paul Petty)
7. 08:34 AM - Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra (CaptainRon)
8. 08:40 AM - Kolb Purchase (Mike)
9. 08:54 AM - Re: airport complaints (CaptainRon)
10. 08:59 AM - Re: Pattern (CaptainRon)
11. 09:10 AM - Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? (BICUM@aol.com)
12. 09:10 AM - Re: Fw: CMLF Fish Fry Flyin (John Hauck)
13. 09:41 AM - Re: airport complaints (Richard Pike)
14. 09:51 AM - Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra (Richard Pike)
15. 10:18 AM - New Kolber (Aaron Hollingsworth)
16. 10:18 AM - New Kolber (Aaron Hollingsworth)
17. 10:25 AM - Re: airport complaints (CaptainRon)
18. 10:27 AM - Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra (CaptainRon)
19. 10:28 AM - Re: New Kolber (James, Ken)
20. 10:40 AM - EAA Centenial Certificate (Denny Rowe)
21. 10:58 AM - Re: Kolb Purchase (Johann)
22. 11:04 AM - Re: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? (Duncan McBride)
23. 11:10 AM - Re: New Kolber (Duncan McBride)
24. 11:55 AM - Re: New Kolber (Robert Laird)
25. 12:00 PM - Re: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? (John Hauck)
26. 12:20 PM - Re: New Kolber (CaptainRon)
27. 02:20 PM - Re: New Kolber (Aaron Hollingsworth)
28. 02:21 PM - Re: New Kolber (Aaron Hollingsworth)
29. 04:17 PM - 618 oil (Aaron Hollingsworth)
30. 04:21 PM - Re: New Kolber (CaptainRon)
31. 04:30 PM - Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? (jerb)
32. 05:02 PM - Re: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? (HShack@aol.com)
33. 05:15 PM - Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? (Larry Bourne)
34. 05:28 PM - Re: New Kolber (jerb)
35. 07:01 PM - Re: Kolb Purchase (Mike)
36. 07:27 PM - Need Information (Al & Beth Nicoson)
37. 08:14 PM - Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra (CRAIG M NELSON)
38. 08:40 PM - Re: 618 oil (Richard Pike)
39. 08:45 PM - Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra (Richard Pike)
40. 09:03 PM - Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
41. 09:30 PM - Re: New Kolber (Aaron Hollingsworth)
42. 09:53 PM - Re: Need Information (Don Gherardini)
43. 09:54 PM - Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra (CaptainRon)
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| Subject: | Fiberglass tank hardware? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I'm assembling a foam and glass tank right now, and I've been pondering the
plumbing and hardware to use. I'd thought to keep it real simple and use
aluminum tubing for the drain and sump, and glass aluminum screen on the
inside around the drain tubes, like in Tony Bingelis' book. Seemed like all
the hardware for sale was for welded tanks anyway. Also, because the tank
is down in the fuselage behind the seats and I want to place the filler cap
on the top of the gap seal ( a part of it that is permanently installed), I
need a hose to lead from the tank to the filler cap. I found a marine cap
that has a hose barb for a 1-1/2 inch hose, so I was thinking of glassing
in a short piece of 1-1/2 inch aluminum tube for a filler neck that I'd
clamp the hose to. Does all this sound workable, or does anyone have some
suggestions? Thanks, guys.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dual Facet fuel pumps, how best to plumb?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Something to think about -
> This spring I had fuel problems (reduced flow) caused by fiberglass crud
> trying to block my original finger strainer in the tank. (15 gallon custom
> system) I cut a hole in the side of the fiberglass tank and replaced the
> standard small wire finger strainer pickup with a in-tank nylon strainer
> from Autozone,
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| Subject: | Re: Original Firestar Totalled |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
This Firestar was still powered by the original 377 Rotax
and had 870 hours time on airframe and engine. Thanks for
the post John it makes me feel real good about my original Firestar with
some 200 hrs. on it. Sure am glad to hear Neil is ok. Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
Not to put words in CaptainRon's mouth but I read his comment as to fly & land
straight in. Avoid crosswind, downwind, base & the resultant extra noise.
Rex Rodebush
.............................................................
Sure they can. And you can put an expansion chamber on your dirt bike, and
straight pipes on your hot rod. And drive around the subdivision several
times each day. Then go see how many friends you have made in the process...
What you can do and what's productive are 2 different things.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 11:27 AM 11/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
>If you have a private strip you can fly whatever
>pattern you like.
...................................
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Duncan
Be sure you get the kind of filler that has a vent tube (app. 1/2") built
into it. When you fill a tank, air will need to be purged from the tank.
With out the vent the fuel will not go in well and spit back out the filler.
Also most of these marine caps have a vent valve built in that is designed
to let air in to the tank as fuel is used. If you plan to use this vent, the
cap should be in a high pressure area.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Fiberglass tank hardware?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride"
<duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
> I'm assembling a foam and glass tank right now, and I've been pondering
the
> plumbing and hardware to use. I'd thought to keep it real simple and use
> aluminum tubing for the drain and sump, and glass aluminum screen on the
> inside around the drain tubes, like in Tony Bingelis' book. Seemed like
all
> the hardware for sale was for welded tanks anyway. Also, because the tank
> is down in the fuselage behind the seats and I want to place the filler
cap
> on the top of the gap seal ( a part of it that is permanently installed),
I
> need a hose to lead from the tank to the filler cap. I found a marine cap
> that has a hose barb for a 1-1/2 inch hose, so I was thinking of glassing
> in a short piece of 1-1/2 inch aluminum tube for a filler neck that I'd
> clamp the hose to. Does all this sound workable, or does anyone have some
> suggestions? Thanks, guys.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dual Facet fuel pumps, how best to plumb?
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> >
> > Something to think about -
> > This spring I had fuel problems (reduced flow) caused by fiberglass crud
> > trying to block my original finger strainer in the tank. (15 gallon
custom
> > system) I cut a hole in the side of the fiberglass tank and replaced the
> > standard small wire finger strainer pickup with a in-tank nylon strainer
> > from Autozone,
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
The private strip I have been flying out of all these years has a housing development
next to it. I was told, when I began flying there, to never overfly the
houses and fly out of the area. Most of us do just that. I go to a nearby "state"
airport" to do pattern work. Upon my return, I throttle back and it's quiet
enough where I don't disturb the neighbors.
Ralph
Original Firestar
16 years flying it
Sure they can. And you can put an expansion chamber on your dirt bike, and straight
pipes on your hot rod. And drive around the subdivision several times each
day. Then go see how many friends you have made in the process...
What you can do and what's productive are 2 different things.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Fw: CMLF Fish Fry Flyin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: Dee Gilliland
Subject: CMLF Fish Fry Flyin
I just want to remind everyone that Central MS Light Flyers club (CMLF) will host
its 9th annual Fish Fry Flyin this coming Saturday (Nov 8th) at Harrell Field,
Pisgah, MS., beginning at 10:00a.m. We hope you can be there with us.
Harrell Field, Pisgah, MS. (MS08)
2600 ft. grass N/S runway
Monitor 122.9 mhz
GPS:N32.28.243W089.51.149
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| Subject: | Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have any pictures of the center gap seal
on an M3X. I cannot figure what the finished product
supposed to look like. I have started building
according to plans, but I still don't understand how
it attaches to the windshield area or held in place at
the front. If the gap seal is same for all Kolbs then
I'll take any pics of any of them. At least I'll get
an idea.
All the pics I took at the factory fly-in a couple of
years ago, got vanished, along with all my
construction pictures. I came back from Alaska and the
disk was unreadable. :-(
If anyone knows how to recover an Imation SuperDisk
media let me know.
Thanks in advance
do not archive
=====
Ron
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike" <mmacpherson@comcast.net>
Looking to buy a used Firestar I or II. Would also consider Firefly. Finished/unfinished
I will consider all. Preferably any plane/kit 1998 or newer.
Thank you.
Mike MacPherson
Pequea PA
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
I am somewhat surprised that you understood my message
to mean that I was suggesting that they disregard the
comfort of their neighborers, or make noise
intentionally over peoples homes. I think the question
was: if they can modify their pattern to avoid
bothering people? And my answerer was a resounding
YES. They can come up with their own pattern to avoid
annoying their neighborers.
======================
--- Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
> <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Sure they can. And you can put an expansion chamber
> on your dirt bike, and
> straight pipes on your hot rod. And drive around the
> subdivision several
> times each day. Then go see how many friends you
> have made in the process...
> What you can do and what's productive are 2
> different things.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>
> At 11:27 AM 11/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> >
> >If you have a private strip you can fly whatever
> >pattern you like. Even in the AIM the pattern we
> fly
> >is a recommended pattern. Off a Golf course you
> guys
> >can fly anything you wish.
> >
> >
> >=================================
> >--- Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by:
> Airgriff2@aol.com
> > >
> > > A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned
> by
> > > a golf coarse, with the
> > > owners blessing. We are helping him by paying
> for
> > > insurance etc. As a result of
> > > all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been
> > > relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
> > > we are now getting home owners surrounding the
> strip
> > > coming over and
> > > complaining about the noise and asking why do we
> fly
> > > over their houses. We explained
> > > that we are required to fly certain patterns by
> the
> > > FAA and have to fly base and
> > > final, which puts us going around their houses.
> > > My question is can the people raise enough
> stink
> > > to shut down the field
> > > somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional)
> can
> > > we fly as we want? We have
> > > already restricted our take off untill after 9
> am on
> > > Sunday mornings as a
> > > result of a complaint.
> > >
> > > Fly Safe
> > > Bob Griffin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Click on the
> > > this
> > > generous
> > > _->
> > > Contributions
> > > any other
> > > Forums.
> > >
> > > http://www.matronics.com/chat
> > >
> > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
> > > http://www.matronics.com/archives
> > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >=====
> >Ron
> >Building M3X
> >Southern Arizona
> >
> >__________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Ron
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Thank you
that's what I meant.
--- Rex Rodebush <rrodebush@tema.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush"
> <rrodebush@tema.net>
>
> Not to put words in CaptainRon's mouth but I read
> his comment as to fly & land straight in. Avoid
> crosswind, downwind, base & the resultant extra
> noise.
>
> Rex Rodebush
>
>
.............................................................
> Sure they can. And you can put an expansion chamber
> on your dirt bike, and
> straight pipes on your hot rod. And drive around the
> subdivision several
> times each day. Then go see how many friends you
> have made in the process...
> What you can do and what's productive are 2
> different things.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
>
>
> At 11:27 AM 11/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> >
> >If you have a private strip you can fly whatever
> >pattern you like.
> ...................................
>
>
>
> Click on the
> this
> generous
> _->
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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>
=====
Ron
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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| Subject: | Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BICUM@aol.com
Hello group,
I just skimmed through the archives and didn't find a clear reference on this
question. Some of you may already know that I had a "little" prop strike on
the way the TNK homecoming. I sent my IVO prop blades back to the manufacturer
for an inspection and reconditioning. The recommendation is to replace some
blades.
So instead of spending the money on some new blades mixed with old parts,
I've decided to purchase a new 72" 3-blade Warp with nickel edges. Nickel edges
because of the summer showers and grass fields I find myself in at times.
The one question I'm not too sure about is should I get the standard blade or
the taper tip blade. My limited knowledge of this is that taper tips offer
more efficiency at higher cruise speeds. Not sure if that is accurate. Is 70
-
80 MPH fast enough to benefit from a taper tip blade? Do you give up
something in climb?
I know the threads on props may have gotten old to some of you. I apologize.
Just looking for some recommendations on the taper tip issue.
Thanks & be careful,
John Bickham
St. Francisville, LA
Kolb Mark III Classic - 912
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: CMLF Fish Fry Flyin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I just want to remind everyone that Central MS Light
> Flyers club (CMLF) will host its 9th annual Fish Fry
> Flyin this coming Saturday (Nov 8th) at Harrell Field,
> Pisgah, MS., beginning at 10:00a.m. We hope you can be
> there with us.
>
> Harrell Field, Pisgah, MS. (MS08) 2600 ft. grass N/S
> runway
>
> Monitor 122.9 mhz
>
> GPS:N32.28.243W089.51.149
Hi Gang:
I plan on flying over to partake of the cat fish, then down
to Mobile and back home Sunday or Monday.
Hope to see some of you all over there.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Sorry Ron, Murphy's Law Prevails - at least around me.
I took it wrong, misunderstood, and went off into left field.
You are entirely correct and that was good advice.
Maybe this is a good time to ask your patience for the next time -
because chances are good I'll eventually do it again...
PS, I also think there is too much Violins on TV
Richard Pike
do not archive
At 08:53 AM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
>I am somewhat surprised that you understood my message
>to mean that I was suggesting that they disregard the
>comfort of their neighborers, or make noise
>intentionally over peoples homes. I think the question
>was: if they can modify their pattern to avoid
>bothering people? And my answerer was a resounding
>YES. They can come up with their own pattern to avoid
>annoying their neighborers.
>
>======================
>
>
>--- Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
> > <rwpike@charter.net>
> >
> > Sure they can. And you can put an expansion chamber
> > on your dirt bike, and
> > straight pipes on your hot rod. And drive around the
> > subdivision several
> > times each day. Then go see how many friends you
> > have made in the process...
> > What you can do and what's productive are 2
> > different things.
> >
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
>
> >
> >
> > At 11:27 AM 11/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> > <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >If you have a private strip you can fly whatever
> > >pattern you like. Even in the AIM the pattern we
> > fly
> > >is a recommended pattern. Off a Golf course you
> > guys
> > >can fly anything you wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >=================================
> > >--- Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by:
> > Airgriff2@aol.com
> > > >
> > > > A group of us are flying off a grass strip owned
> > by
> > > > a golf coarse, with the
> > > > owners blessing. We are helping him by paying
> > for
> > > > insurance etc. As a result of
> > > > all the flying activity,( the airstrip has been
> > > > relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
> > > > we are now getting home owners surrounding the
> > strip
> > > > coming over and
> > > > complaining about the noise and asking why do we
> > fly
> > > > over their houses. We explained
> > > > that we are required to fly certain patterns by
> > the
> > > > FAA and have to fly base and
> > > > final, which puts us going around their houses.
> > > > My question is can the people raise enough
> > stink
> > > > to shut down the field
> > > > somehow or as a public strip (on the sectional)
> > can
> > > > we fly as we want? We have
> > > > already restricted our take off untill after 9
> > am on
> > > > Sunday mornings as a
> > > > result of a complaint.
> > > >
> > > > Fly Safe
> > > > Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Several years ago I took a bunch of pictures of Fat Albert, former Kolb
demonstrator MKIII, so I could better understand the gap seal, because it
also had me confused. (And you are thinking -"Confused? I'm not surprised...")
Anyway, if you have enough bandwidth, I can scan them and send them to you
full size, because they are what I used to figure out the original MKIII
gap seal.
It's the least I can do...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 08:34 AM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
>Does anyone have any pictures of the center gap seal
>on an M3X. I cannot figure what the finished product
>supposed to look like. I have started building
>according to plans, but I still don't understand how
>it attaches to the windshield area or held in place at
>the front. If the gap seal is same for all Kolbs then
>I'll take any pics of any of them. At least I'll get
>an idea.
>All the pics I took at the factory fly-in a couple of
>years ago, got vanished, along with all my
>construction pictures. I came back from Alaska and the
>disk was unreadable. :-(
> If anyone knows how to recover an Imation SuperDisk
>media let me know.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>do not archive
>
>=====
>Ron
>Building M3X
>Southern Arizona
>
>__________________________________
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Hello all. I have been lurking for a few weeks now, gathering any information I
could on the kolb planes. I had been considering buying a used Kolb Mk3 and made
the leap yesterday. The plane was previously owned by two guys that have moved
up to faster x-country GA planes. They have been nice enough to offer as
much training as they legally can and have put me in contact with the CFI that
did their checkouts.
I did some training with one of the ex-owners yesterday and am quite pleased. After
the first couple high speed taxies, I wasn't so sure the transition to a
trail dragger would be 'trivial' as it has been described here. However, after
3-4 more the ruder work became easy and we moved on to flying. I am a fairly
lowtime pilot (40 hours in a challenger, few in a quicksilver, 10 in a 172, and
30 or so in a piper archer2).
The first landing I just followed the owner through the motions. Seemed easy enough...
2nd landing I did most of the work and owner needed to correct for airspeed
a couple times. After that, I did about 8 more touch and goes without the
need for any more assistance. It is amazing how a couple hours of training can
make all the difference in the world. I hope I remember what I learned for
doing my checkout with a CFI this weekend.
The plane is currently located out at Erie / TriCounty airport north of Denver
at 5100'. I am 215lbs and the owner was about 220. With the 618 engine we still
were able to get between 400-800'/min. Not bad. I will be moving the plane closer
to me soon (Meadowlake airport near Colorado Springs). Meadowlake is at
6800', hopefully the extra 1700' will not affect performance too dramatically.
I have GA solo'd a piper archer2, but have not finixhed my x-country work. I would
like to finish my GA work in the mark3. Since a lot of the work relys on navigation
via VOR, will a CFI allow me to use a navcom radio instead of a typical
VOR inst.? I'll start calling around looking for a CFI to fly with next week.
Anyone else finish up GA ticket in a mark3?
Here are the specs of my new toy:
Mark3, 618, warpdrive, dual controls, 10gal, hotbox, intercom, mid 90s kit, finished
'99, hydrolic brakes, N-number (transering it), ~180hours TTAE.
While it is not show quality, it is in very good shape.
Anyone on this list in the Colorado area? Meadowlake?
Regards,
---
Aaron Hollingsworth
new Mark3 owner
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Hello all. I have been lurking for a few weeks now, gathering any information I
could on the kolb planes. I had been considering buying a used Kolb Mk3 and made
the leap yesterday. The plane was previously owned by two guys that have moved
up to faster x-country GA planes. They have been nice enough to offer as
much training as they legally can and have put me in contact with the CFI that
did their checkouts.
I did some training with one of the ex-owners yesterday and am quite pleased. After
the first couple high speed taxies, I wasn't so sure the transition to a
trail dragger would be 'trivial' as it has been described here. However, after
3-4 more the ruder work became easy and we moved on to flying. I am a fairly
lowtime pilot (40 hours in a challenger, few in a quicksilver, 10 in a 172, and
30 or so in a piper archer2).
The first landing I just followed the owner through the motions. Seemed easy enough...
2nd landing I did most of the work and owner needed to correct for airspeed
a couple times. After that, I did about 8 more touch and goes without the
need for any more assistance. It is amazing how a couple hours of training can
make all the difference in the world. I hope I remember what I learned for
doing my checkout with a CFI this weekend.
The plane is currently located out at Erie / TriCounty airport north of Denver
at 5100'. I am 215lbs and the owner was about 220. With the 618 engine we still
were able to get between 400-800'/min. Not bad. I will be moving the plane closer
to me soon (Meadowlake airport near Colorado Springs). Meadowlake is at
6800', hopefully the extra 1700' will not affect performance too dramatically.
I have GA solo'd a piper archer2, but have not finixhed my x-country work. I would
like to finish my GA work in the mark3. Since a lot of the work relys on navigation
via VOR, will a CFI allow me to use a navcom radio instead of a typical
VOR inst.? I'll start calling around looking for a CFI to fly with next week.
Anyone else finish up GA ticket in a mark3?
Here are the specs of my new toy:
Mark3, 618, warpdrive, dual controls, 10gal, hotbox, intercom, mid 90s kit, finished
'99, hydrolic brakes, N-number (transering it), ~180hours TTAE.
While it is not show quality, it is in very good shape.
Anyone on this list in the Colorado area? Meadowlake?
Regards,
---
Aaron Hollingsworth
new Mark3 owner
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| Subject: | Re: airport complaints |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
No problem Richard.
S4 happens.
do not archive
=============
--- Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
> <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Sorry Ron, Murphy's Law Prevails - at least around
> me.
> I took it wrong, misunderstood, and went off into
> left field.
> You are entirely correct and that was good advice.
>
> Maybe this is a good time to ask your patience for
> the next time -
> because chances are good I'll eventually do it
> again...
>
> PS, I also think there is too much Violins on TV
> Richard Pike
>
> do not archive
>
> At 08:53 AM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> >
> >I am somewhat surprised that you understood my
> message
> >to mean that I was suggesting that they disregard
> the
> >comfort of their neighborers, or make noise
> >intentionally over peoples homes. I think the
> question
> >was: if they can modify their pattern to avoid
> >bothering people? And my answerer was a resounding
> >YES. They can come up with their own pattern to
> avoid
> >annoying their neighborers.
> >
> >======================
> >
> >
> >--- Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> wrote:
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
> > > <rwpike@charter.net>
> > >
> > > Sure they can. And you can put an expansion
> chamber
> > > on your dirt bike, and
> > > straight pipes on your hot rod. And drive around
> the
> > > subdivision several
> > > times each day. Then go see how many friends you
> > > have made in the process...
> > > What you can do and what's productive are 2
> > > different things.
> > >
> > > Richard Pike
> > > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:27 AM 11/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> > > <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > >If you have a private strip you can fly
> whatever
> > > >pattern you like. Even in the AIM the pattern
> we
> > > fly
> > > >is a recommended pattern. Off a Golf course you
> > > guys
> > > >can fly anything you wish.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >=================================
> > > >--- Airgriff2@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by:
> > > Airgriff2@aol.com
> > > > >
> > > > > A group of us are flying off a grass strip
> owned
> > > by
> > > > > a golf coarse, with the
> > > > > owners blessing. We are helping him by
> paying
> > > for
> > > > > insurance etc. As a result of
> > > > > all the flying activity,( the airstrip has
> been
> > > > > relitively quiet for 20 yrs)
> > > > > we are now getting home owners surrounding
> the
> > > strip
> > > > > coming over and
> > > > > complaining about the noise and asking why
> do we
> > > fly
> > > > > over their houses. We explained
> > > > > that we are required to fly certain patterns
> by
> > > the
> > > > > FAA and have to fly base and
> > > > > final, which puts us going around their
> houses.
> > > > > My question is can the people raise enough
> > > stink
> > > > > to shut down the field
> > > > > somehow or as a public strip (on the
> sectional)
> > > can
> > > > > we fly as we want? We have
> > > > > already restricted our take off untill after
> 9
> > > am on
> > > > > Sunday mornings as a
> > > > > result of a complaint.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fly Safe
> > > > > Bob Griffin
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Yes go ahead send them over.
Thanks.
=====================
--- Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
> <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Several years ago I took a bunch of pictures of Fat
> Albert, former Kolb
> demonstrator MKIII, so I could better understand the
> gap seal, because it
> also had me confused. (And you are thinking
> -"Confused? I'm not surprised...")
> Anyway, if you have enough bandwidth, I can scan
> them and send them to you
> full size, because they are what I used to figure
> out the original MKIII
> gap seal.
> It's the least I can do...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> At 08:34 AM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Does anyone have any pictures of the center gap
> seal
> >on an M3X. I cannot figure what the finished
> product
> >supposed to look like. I have started building
> >according to plans, but I still don't understand
> how
> >it attaches to the windshield area or held in place
> at
> >the front. If the gap seal is same for all Kolbs
> then
> >I'll take any pics of any of them. At least I'll
> get
> >an idea.
> >All the pics I took at the factory fly-in a couple
> of
> >years ago, got vanished, along with all my
> >construction pictures. I came back from Alaska and
> the
> >disk was unreadable. :-(
> > If anyone knows how to recover an Imation
> SuperDisk
> >media let me know.
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >=====
> >Ron
> >Building M3X
> >Southern Arizona
> >
> >__________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> this
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Welcome to the family
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hollingsworth [mailto:aaron@gamespeak.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolber
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| Subject: | EAA Centenial Certificate |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Kolbers,
I just got the mail and was happy to receive my package from EAA containing my
Centenial Hombuilt Certificate and data plate.
They are first rate and a real nice idea from the folks in Oshkosh. If you are
getting close to your airworthiness inspection on your project, these are nice
enough to encourage one to get it done before 12-17 -03.
Sincerely,
Dennis Rowe
Mk-3, PA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
Hi Mike,
Would you consider buying one from Iceland???? :-)
It is a small market up here, and I have a Firestar II first flown in
Nov. 1997. Have been trying to sell it up here, but I am beginning to
think that I am the only crazy person in Iceland to dare to fly other
type than a Spam can.
Sorry to get your hopes up, but it is that huge and deep ocean that
keeps us in a seperate ultralight flying world. Otherwise I would fly it
too you.
Hope you find a Firestar/Firefly.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
http://www.gi.is/fis
Looking to buy a used Firestar I or II. Would also consider Firefly.
Finished/unfinished I will consider all. Preferably any plane/kit 1998
or newer.
Thank you.
Mike MacPherson
Pequea PA
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| Subject: | Re: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I think the prop thread has been sadly neglected of late, John, and I'm
looking forward to an exhaustive comparison of climb, cruise, noise, and
vibration between the IVO and your new Warp. Seriously. The taper tips
sound like the way to go - I think because the area is smaller, the same hp
can spin it a little faster, so you can pitch it a little higher, all other
things equal. You can still get full power out of the engine but you won't
overspeed the engine as quickly as the airplane accelerates to cruise - so
the prop can absorb more power at speed. Intuitively, you'd lose a little
static thrust if the higher pitched blades aren't as efficient at low
airspeed, but I bet the tradeoff is well worth it. You may remember after
talking to you and John Hauck at the flyin, I repitched my IVO to reduce the
static rpm by about 300, from 5650 to 5350. I lost about 50 fpm in climb
rate (which I could easily spare), but gained 5mph cruise at 5000rpm. I'm
hoping you have some performance data for your ship that will allow a good
A-B comparison between the IVO and the Warp. Looking forward to it
----- Original Message -----
From: <BICUM@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: BICUM@aol.com
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Hey, congratulations on getting a great little airplane. Hope you can find
a CFI who appreciates it and will work with you. Welcome to the list.
Duncan McBride
Mark III, 319DM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolber
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> Hello all. I have been lurking for a few weeks now, gathering any
information I could on the kolb planes. I had been considering buying a used
Kolb Mk3 and made the leap yesterday. The plane was previously owned by two
guys that have moved up to faster x-country GA planes. They have been nice
enough to offer as much training as they legally can and have put me in
contact with the CFI that did their checkouts.
>
> I did some training with one of the ex-owners yesterday and am quite
pleased. After the first couple high speed taxies, I wasn't so sure the
transition to a trail dragger would be 'trivial' as it has been described
here. However, after 3-4 more the ruder work became easy and we moved on to
flying. I am a fairly lowtime pilot (40 hours in a challenger, few in a
quicksilver, 10 in a 172, and 30 or so in a piper archer2).
>
> The first landing I just followed the owner through the motions. Seemed
easy enough... 2nd landing I did most of the work and owner needed to
correct for airspeed a couple times. After that, I did about 8 more touch
and goes without the need for any more assistance. It is amazing how a
couple hours of training can make all the difference in the world. I hope I
remember what I learned for doing my checkout with a CFI this weekend.
>
> The plane is currently located out at Erie / TriCounty airport north of
Denver at 5100'. I am 215lbs and the owner was about 220. With the 618
engine we still were able to get between 400-800'/min. Not bad. I will be
moving the plane closer to me soon (Meadowlake airport near Colorado
Springs). Meadowlake is at 6800', hopefully the extra 1700' will not affect
performance too dramatically.
>
> I have GA solo'd a piper archer2, but have not finixhed my x-country work.
I would like to finish my GA work in the mark3. Since a lot of the work
relys on navigation via VOR, will a CFI allow me to use a navcom radio
instead of a typical VOR inst.? I'll start calling around looking for a CFI
to fly with next week. Anyone else finish up GA ticket in a mark3?
>
> Here are the specs of my new toy:
>
> Mark3, 618, warpdrive, dual controls, 10gal, hotbox, intercom, mid 90s
kit, finished '99, hydrolic brakes, N-number (transering it), ~180hours
TTAE.
>
> While it is not show quality, it is in very good shape.
>
> Anyone on this list in the Colorado area? Meadowlake?
>
> Regards,
>
> ---
> Aaron Hollingsworth
> new Mark3 owner
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
>Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via VOR, will a CFI allow me
>to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR inst.?
The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact model/brand/type/size/etc.
of navigation equipment used, so don't let anyone tell you
otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs that will tell you
that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom line is: the CFI may elect
not to do with it you, and that's their prerogative. It's legal, it can be
done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that will do it with you... that's
been my experience.
-- Robert
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| Subject: | Re: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The one question I'm not too sure about is should I get
> the standard blade or the taper tip blade. My limited
> knowledge of this is that taper tips offer more
> efficiency at higher cruise speeds. Not sure if that is
> accurate. Is 70 - 80 MPH fast enough to benefit from a
> taper tip blade? Do you give up something in climb?
> John Bickham St. Francisville, LA Kolb Mark III Classic -
> 912
John B/Gang:
I have tested all the Warp Drive Prop Blade shapes on Miss
P'fer over the years. The best blade for climb and cruise
is the fast taper blade with nickel steel leading edges.
You give up nothing and gain everything. Been flying with
that prop since 1993, working on nearly 2,000 hours.
Used the fast taper blades on the 582, 912, and 912S.
Hope to see you in Pisgah, MS, tomorrow.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
If you were in Arizona I would have no problem at
signing you off for X-country in an M3 (if you meet
the requisite training/ requirements). Call around
you'll find someone willing to do it.
do not archive
======================
--- Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird
> <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron
> Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
> >
> >Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via
> VOR, will a CFI allow me
> >to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR
> inst.?
>
> The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact
> model/brand/type/size/etc.
> of navigation equipment used, so don't let anyone
> tell you
> otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs that
> will tell you
> that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom line
> is: the CFI may elect
> not to do with it you, and that's their prerogative.
> It's legal, it can be
> done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that will
> do it with you... that's
> been my experience.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
>
> Click on the
> this
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Good to hear there are CFIs around that will do signoffs in Mk3s. I found a
guy a couple hours away that will do my solo endorsement, but would rather
not complete the GA with be considering the distance between us. I'll keep
asking around. There is an EAA chapter out here that I'll ask.
Aaron
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "CaptainRon" <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolber
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
> If you were in Arizona I would have no problem at
> signing you off for X-country in an M3 (if you meet
> the requisite training/ requirements). Call around
> you'll find someone willing to do it.
>
>
> do not archive
>
> ======================
>
>
> --- Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird
> > <rlaird@cavediver.com>
> >
> > At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron
> > Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
> > >
> > >Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via
> > VOR, will a CFI allow me
> > >to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR
> > inst.?
> >
> > The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact
> > model/brand/type/size/etc.
> > of navigation equipment used, so don't let anyone
> > tell you
> > otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs that
> > will tell you
> > that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom line
> > is: the CFI may elect
> > not to do with it you, and that's their prerogative.
> > It's legal, it can be
> > done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that will
> > do it with you... that's
> > been my experience.
> >
> > -- Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Click on the
> > this
> > generous
> > _->
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
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> Building M3X
> Southern Arizona
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
What is the typical per hour rate for a CFI flying in the students plane?
Thanks,
Aaron
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----- Original Message -----
From: "CaptainRon" <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolber
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
>
> If you were in Arizona I would have no problem at
> signing you off for X-country in an M3 (if you meet
> the requisite training/ requirements). Call around
> you'll find someone willing to do it.
>
>
> do not archive
>
> ======================
>
>
> --- Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird
> > <rlaird@cavediver.com>
> >
> > At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron
> > Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
> > >
> > >Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via
> > VOR, will a CFI allow me
> > >to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR
> > inst.?
> >
> > The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact
> > model/brand/type/size/etc.
> > of navigation equipment used, so don't let anyone
> > tell you
> > otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs that
> > will tell you
> > that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom line
> > is: the CFI may elect
> > not to do with it you, and that's their prerogative.
> > It's legal, it can be
> > done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that will
> > do it with you... that's
> > been my experience.
> >
> > -- Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Click on the
> > this
> > generous
> > _->
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/chat
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
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> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> =====
> Ron
> Building M3X
> Southern Arizona
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
I have read many people like the Bombardier (sp?) synthetic oil. The old
owner of the Mark3/618 has been using it exclusively. At 39.00 a gallon,
I thought I would ask if there are any solutions as good or better,
maybe less expensive?
I did find a local place that sells Bombardier Synthetic blend for $20 a
gallon. Is it any good?
aaron
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Around here it ranges from 25/hr to 30/hr depending on
the mood of the instructor.
Poor guys usually pay less. :-)
do not archive
===================
--- Aaron Hollingsworth <aaron@gamespeak.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron
> Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> What is the typical per hour rate for a CFI flying
> in the students plane?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
> -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CaptainRon" <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolber
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> >
> > If you were in Arizona I would have no problem at
> > signing you off for X-country in an M3 (if you
> meet
> > the requisite training/ requirements). Call around
> > you'll find someone willing to do it.
> >
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > ======================
> >
> >
> > --- Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird
> > > <rlaird@cavediver.com>
> > >
> > > At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
> > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron
> > > Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
> > > >
> > > >Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via
> > > VOR, will a CFI allow me
> > > >to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR
> > > inst.?
> > >
> > > The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact
> > > model/brand/type/size/etc.
> > > of navigation equipment used, so don't let
> anyone
> > > tell you
> > > otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs
> that
> > > will tell you
> > > that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom
> line
> > > is: the CFI may elect
> > > not to do with it you, and that's their
> prerogative.
> > > It's legal, it can be
> > > done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that
> will
> > > do it with you... that's
> > > been my experience.
> > >
> > > -- Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Click on the
> > > this
> > > generous
> > > _->
> > > Contributions
> > > any other
> > > Forums.
> > >
> > > http://www.matronics.com/chat
> > >
> > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
> > > http://www.matronics.com/archives
> > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > =====
> > Ron
> > Building M3X
> > Southern Arizona
> >
> > __________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Click on the
> this
> generous
> _->
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
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Ron
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Rick,
Are you sure he would want to use a filler with a vent?
Normally a vent is run down the bottom of the tank so in the event the
aircraft become inverted like after a crash, it will not dump fuel out the
vent tube. If he used a separate piece of tubing for the vent function and
routed in that manner then it would be OK.
jerb
At 08:54 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
><NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
>Duncan
>
>Be sure you get the kind of filler that has a vent tube (app. 1/2") built
>into it. When you fill a tank, air will need to be purged from the tank.
>With out the vent the fuel will not go in well and spit back out the filler.
>Also most of these marine caps have a vent valve built in that is designed
>to let air in to the tank as fuel is used. If you plan to use this vent, the
>cap should be in a high pressure area.
>
>Rick Neilsen
>Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Fiberglass tank hardware?
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride"
><duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> >
> > I'm assembling a foam and glass tank right now, and I've been pondering
>the
> > plumbing and hardware to use. I'd thought to keep it real simple and use
> > aluminum tubing for the drain and sump, and glass aluminum screen on the
> > inside around the drain tubes, like in Tony Bingelis' book. Seemed like
>all
> > the hardware for sale was for welded tanks anyway. Also, because the tank
> > is down in the fuselage behind the seats and I want to place the filler
>cap
> > on the top of the gap seal ( a part of it that is permanently installed),
>I
> > need a hose to lead from the tank to the filler cap. I found a marine cap
> > that has a hose barb for a 1-1/2 inch hose, so I was thinking of glassing
> > in a short piece of 1-1/2 inch aluminum tube for a filler neck that I'd
> > clamp the hose to. Does all this sound workable, or does anyone have some
> > suggestions? Thanks, guys.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dual Facet fuel pumps, how best to plumb?
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> > >
> > > Something to think about -
> > > This spring I had fuel problems (reduced flow) caused by fiberglass crud
> > > trying to block my original finger strainer in the tank. (15 gallon
>custom
> > > system) I cut a hole in the side of the fiberglass tank and replaced the
> > > standard small wire finger strainer pickup with a in-tank nylon strainer
> > > from Autozone,
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Getting a new Warp - to taper tip or not? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 11/7/03 12:10:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, BICUM@aol.com
writes:
> The one question I'm not too sure about is should I get the standard blade
> or
> the taper tip blade. My limited knowledge of this is that taper tips offer
> more efficiency at higher cruise speeds. Not sure if that is accurate. Is
> 70 -
> 80 MPH fast enough to benefit from a taper tip blade? Do you give up
> something in climb?
>
>
I fly a Firestar II with 3 blade taper-tip, 68" Warp on a 3.47:1 "C" box. I
outclimb & outrun & outweigh most of the other Firestars at our field. Use
less gas, too. The only exception is one that flies at a gross of about 200
lbs less than me.
I don't know what the reason is; could be the Vortex Generators.
Shack
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I believe you really need 2 vents on your tank.............IF it has a long
filler neck. 1st is the small 1/4" or 5/16" tube that runs down under the
tank as Jerb suggests, which is to allow for expansion and contraction of
the fuel and air in the tank, as temperature and altitude change. On
Vamoose, I routed this one from the fitting on top of the tank, up about 6"
in a loop to help prevent splashing out, then down alongside the fuel drain,
and outside the bottom fabric. Any leaks or drainage will therefore be
outside the fuselage. I don't believe the standard FireStar or Mk III tanks
with the cap directly on top of the tank need a separate vent, but if you
have a long filler neck, you'll also need, as Rick Neilson pointed out, a
larger 1/2" or more vent to allow fueling without "burping." Yes, I've been
there too, on a non-vented marine tank, and it's not fun...........not to
mention dangerous. I've seen fuel spurt back 3 or 4 feet in a huge gush.
On Vamoose, I welded a fitting onto the top of the tank adjacent to the main
fuel filler neck, then put an elbow up high on the fuel filler neck and a
clear tube to connect the 2. With this set-up, the fueling nozzle will
project into the neck past the vent outlet, so that displaced air won't
burp the in-coming fuel. When the cap is replaced on the filler, the large
vent is sealed off, too. A good picture of it is on "Building Vamoose,"
"Seats and Fuel System" at the bottom of the page. Next time I visit
Vamoose, I'll take a pic of the 3 way fitting that holds the small vent, and
add it to the webpage. On that, I had to allow for return fuel from the
injectors, and prevent it splashing into the vent. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fiberglass tank hardware?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Rick,
> Are you sure he would want to use a filler with a vent?
> Normally a vent is run down the bottom of the tank so in the event the
> aircraft become inverted like after a crash, it will not dump fuel out the
> vent tube. If he used a separate piece of tubing for the vent function
and
> routed in that manner then it would be OK.
> jerb
>
> At 08:54 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> ><NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> >
> >Duncan
> >
> >Be sure you get the kind of filler that has a vent tube (app. 1/2") built
> >into it. When you fill a tank, air will need to be purged from the tank.
> >With out the vent the fuel will not go in well and spit back out the
filler.
> >Also most of these marine caps have a vent valve built in that is
designed
> >to let air in to the tank as fuel is used. If you plan to use this vent,
the
> >cap should be in a high pressure area.
> >
> >Rick Neilsen
> >Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Fiberglass tank hardware?
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride"
> ><duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > I'm assembling a foam and glass tank right now, and I've been
pondering
> >the
> > > plumbing and hardware to use. I'd thought to keep it real simple and
use
> > > aluminum tubing for the drain and sump, and glass aluminum screen on
the
> > > inside around the drain tubes, like in Tony Bingelis' book. Seemed
like
> >all
> > > the hardware for sale was for welded tanks anyway. Also, because the
tank
> > > is down in the fuselage behind the seats and I want to place the
filler
> >cap
> > > on the top of the gap seal ( a part of it that is permanently
installed),
> >I
> > > need a hose to lead from the tank to the filler cap. I found a marine
cap
> > > that has a hose barb for a 1-1/2 inch hose, so I was thinking of
glassing
> > > in a short piece of 1-1/2 inch aluminum tube for a filler neck that
I'd
> > > clamp the hose to. Does all this sound workable, or does anyone have
some
> > > suggestions? Thanks, guys.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
> > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dual Facet fuel pumps, how best to plumb?
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> > > >
> > > > Something to think about -
> > > > This spring I had fuel problems (reduced flow) caused by fiberglass
crud
> > > > trying to block my original finger strainer in the tank. (15 gallon
> >custom
> > > > system) I cut a hole in the side of the fiberglass tank and replaced
the
> > > > standard small wire finger strainer pickup with a in-tank nylon
strainer
> > > > from Autozone,
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Do you not have to do some simulated instrument under the hood. Does it
have a full instrument panel? You may want to ask your instructor about
this. Do you plan to take your check ride in the airplane. Might be
easier to use a rental as you need to have also the paper work in order
and be prepared to do a weight & balance.
As for the NavComm - you should be able to use a handle held so long as it
support a CDI indicator and OBS function. Do you have an external antenna
as the VOR function works better if connected to external antenna? Do you
have a Yaesu Nav/Comm, if so you could have some problems with the VOR as
it has been posted on the list they have said that the VOR function does
not work well in flight (moving). Don't ask me why they would market a
product that does meet the intended application.
jerb
At 01:54 PM 11/7/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
> >
> >Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via VOR, will a CFI allow me
> >to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR inst.?
>
>The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact model/brand/type/size/etc.
>of navigation equipment used, so don't let anyone tell you
>otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs that will tell you
>that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom line is: the CFI may elect
>not to do with it you, and that's their prerogative. It's legal, it can be
>done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that will do it with you... that's
>been my experience.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Purchase |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike" <mmacpherson@comcast.net>
Sorry, I believe that is a little far for me to go and shipping cost would
be prohibitive. Thank you anyway. How much were you asking, US Dollars?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Purchase
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
>
>
> Hi Mike,
> Would you consider buying one from Iceland???? :-)
> It is a small market up here, and I have a Firestar II first flown in
> Nov. 1997. Have been trying to sell it up here, but I am beginning to
> think that I am the only crazy person in Iceland to dare to fly other
> type than a Spam can.
> Sorry to get your hopes up, but it is that huge and deep ocean that
> keeps us in a seperate ultralight flying world. Otherwise I would fly it
> too you.
>
> Hope you find a Firestar/Firefly.
>
> Best wishes,
> Johann G.
> Iceland.
> http://www.gi.is/fis
>
>
> Looking to buy a used Firestar I or II. Would also consider Firefly.
> Finished/unfinished I will consider all. Preferably any plane/kit 1998
> or newer.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Mike MacPherson
> Pequea PA
>
>
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| Subject: | Need Information |
BAYES_60 (1.1 points) BODY: Bayesian classifier says spam probability
is 60 to 70%
[score: 0.6396]
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Al & Beth Nicoson" <nicoson@elknet.net>
Hello Group,
I am looking for Kolb owners/builders in Southeastern Wisconsin or Northern Illinois
that will share some information concerning
their aircraft. I am seriously contemplating building a Kolb for experimental
certification, and do not want to repeat the
frustrations and additional expenses I experienced in building my first aircraft.
Thanks,
Al Nicoson
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~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
nnicoson@yahoo.com
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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| Subject: | Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: CaptainRon
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra
-->
--- Richard the plans are for a removable gap seal. I can show you some Ideas of
a permanent seal if you would like. Uncle Craig MKIIIex912uls
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> At 08:34 AM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Does anyone have any pictures of the center gap
> seal
> >__________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Click on the
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Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Bombardier Synthetic at $39 a gallon is great -
especially if you are the one selling it.
Lockwood Aviation recommends using Pennzoil 2-cycle
Premium Outboard oil for the 618 and they get $1.49 a quart for it.
PS. Drain out your oil tank of the previous oil any time you change
from one brand to another especially if going from synthetic to
petroleum based or vice versa.
Details on the reason here -
http://www.lockwood-aviation.com/consumables.htm
Lots of stuff in the archives on oils. (And Seafoam...)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 05:17 PM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
>I have read many people like the Bombardier (sp?) synthetic oil. The old
>owner of the Mark3/618 has been using it exclusively. At 39.00 a gallon,
>I thought I would ask if there are any solutions as good or better,
>maybe less expensive?
>
>I did find a local place that sells Bombardier Synthetic blend for $20 a
>gallon. Is it any good?
>
>aaron
>
>-
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Not me, my gap seal is filled with gas tank and parachute - it's a one-off.
Pictures of tank/seal here -
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg1.htm
Thanks anyway.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:13 PM 11/7/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>
>
>--- Richard the plans are for a removable gap seal. I can show you some
>Ideas of a permanent seal if you would like. Uncle Craig MKIIIex912uls
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass tank hardware? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Jerb
Are we talking venting the air out of the tank so that you can fill the tank
like at an air port. If you have a long (over maybe six inches) filler pipe
you need some way to get the air out or fuel will burp or spit when you
fill. This line will need to be surprisingly large to do the job. A1/4 inch
is way too small.
If we are talking a vent that allows air in when you are flying. Yes as you
describe this works well. Be sure also that you don't have this vent in a
low pressure area or you will have problems with fuel flow. My marine filler
also has a one way vent built into it that allows air into the tank but no
air or fuel out so it servers the purpose you describe also. It works for me
but I haven't tried it in a crash.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fiberglass tank hardware?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Rick,
> Are you sure he would want to use a filler with a vent?
> Normally a vent is run down the bottom of the tank so in the event the
> aircraft become inverted like after a crash, it will not dump fuel out the
> vent tube. If he used a separate piece of tubing for the vent function
and
> routed in that manner then it would be OK.
> jerb
>
> At 08:54 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> ><NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> >
> >Duncan
> >
> >Be sure you get the kind of filler that has a vent tube (app. 1/2") built
> >into it. When you fill a tank, air will need to be purged from the tank.
> >With out the vent the fuel will not go in well and spit back out the
filler.
> >Also most of these marine caps have a vent valve built in that is
designed
> >to let air in to the tank as fuel is used. If you plan to use this vent,
the
> >cap should be in a high pressure area.
> >
> >Rick Neilsen
> >Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Fiberglass tank hardware?
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride"
> ><duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > I'm assembling a foam and glass tank right now, and I've been
pondering
> >the
> > > plumbing and hardware to use. I'd thought to keep it real simple and
use
> > > aluminum tubing for the drain and sump, and glass aluminum screen on
the
> > > inside around the drain tubes, like in Tony Bingelis' book. Seemed
like
> >all
> > > the hardware for sale was for welded tanks anyway. Also, because the
tank
> > > is down in the fuselage behind the seats and I want to place the
filler
> >cap
> > > on the top of the gap seal ( a part of it that is permanently
installed),
> >I
> > > need a hose to lead from the tank to the filler cap. I found a marine
cap
> > > that has a hose barb for a 1-1/2 inch hose, so I was thinking of
glassing
> > > in a short piece of 1-1/2 inch aluminum tube for a filler neck that
I'd
> > > clamp the hose to. Does all this sound workable, or does anyone have
some
> > > suggestions? Thanks, guys.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
> > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dual Facet fuel pumps, how best to plumb?
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> > > >
> > > > Something to think about -
> > > > This spring I had fuel problems (reduced flow) caused by fiberglass
crud
> > > > trying to block my original finger strainer in the tank. (15 gallon
> >custom
> > > > system) I cut a hole in the side of the fiberglass tank and replaced
the
> > > > standard small wire finger strainer pickup with a in-tank nylon
strainer
> > > > from Autozone,
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
I already have some hood time. I will look in my logs and see how much more
I will need. Good point. I may have to do a couple rental flights for the
hood time.
My nav-com is a JRC. I haven't actually played with the nav functions yet.
Hope it works well.
Regards,
aaron
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolber
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Do you not have to do some simulated instrument under the hood. Does it
> have a full instrument panel? You may want to ask your instructor about
> this. Do you plan to take your check ride in the airplane. Might be
> easier to use a rental as you need to have also the paper work in order
> and be prepared to do a weight & balance.
>
> As for the NavComm - you should be able to use a handle held so long as it
> support a CDI indicator and OBS function. Do you have an external antenna
> as the VOR function works better if connected to external antenna? Do you
> have a Yaesu Nav/Comm, if so you could have some problems with the VOR as
> it has been posted on the list they have said that the VOR function does
> not work well in flight (moving). Don't ask me why they would market a
> product that does meet the intended application.
> jerb
>
> At 01:54 PM 11/7/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
> >
> >At 01:17 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com>
> > >
> > >Since a lot of the work relys on navigation via VOR, will a CFI allow
me
> > >to use a navcom radio instead of a typical VOR inst.?
> >
> >The FAA regs do not, anywhere, specify the exact
model/brand/type/size/etc.
> >of navigation equipment used, so don't let anyone tell you
> >otherwise. However, there are a lot of CFIs that will tell you
> >that. Don't believe them, either. But, bottom line is: the CFI may
elect
> >not to do with it you, and that's their prerogative. It's legal, it can
be
> >done, but it might be hard to find a CFI that will do it with you...
that's
> >been my experience.
> >
> > -- Robert
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need Information |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Well hello Al,
I Just got a FireFly done about 2 months ago. It is the 5th ultralite I have
built, and Il tell ya what, the only thing easier I have done was a
weedhopper to build.
I am Central Illinois, about 250 miles south of chicago...but here is a
website that I built to give you some ideas...and if you Stick around this
list, you will find more than enough help with these gratious fellas...just
send out a question, and you will be amazed at what you will recieve. I
consider this the best tool in the shop for building an airplane!
If we would have had this medium 20 years ago, No telling where this
industry would be!
Good luck,....and welcome.
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Don Gherardini-
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Re: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
Go ahead Craig send them over, I would be interested
in a permanent gap sealer. Any ideas at this early
stage is good. Is your aircraft at home or do you have
it at an airport?
I could drop by and look Sunday, I have a flight up to
Sky Harbor, on the way back I can stop by with my
camera and take some pics.
==============================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: CaptainRon
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gap seal Mark 3 Xtra
>
> -->
>
>
> --- Richard the plans are for a removable gap seal.
> I can show you some Ideas of a permanent seal if you
> would like. Uncle Craig MKIIIex912uls
>
>
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
> > At 08:34 AM 11/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon
> > <aerialron@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any pictures of the center gap
> > seal
>
=====
Ron
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
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