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1. 04:16 AM - Corvair Turkeyshoot (Duncan McBride)
2. 04:25 AM - MVU (Ted Cowan)
3. 04:30 AM - Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot (Dave Rains)
4. 04:33 AM - Re: question? (ronnie wehba)
5. 05:37 AM - Kolb List Activity (Jack & Louise Hart)
6. 06:03 AM - Ski's (Kirk Smith)
7. 06:54 AM - Re: Apology.. (John Hauck)
8. 07:03 AM - Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot (John Hauck)
9. 07:34 AM - Re: Kolb List Activity (John Hauck)
10. 08:16 AM - Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot (Don Gherardini)
11. 08:26 AM - Re: Kolb List Activity (Larry Bourne)
12. 09:16 AM - monument valley (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
13. 10:08 AM - Re: fly Corvair (CaptainRon)
14. 10:20 AM - Re: Apology.. apolog..apol..ap...ah nutz (Bob Noyer)
15. 11:45 AM - Re: fly Corvair (jerb)
16. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
17. 12:55 PM - Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot (Edward Chmielewski)
18. 01:00 PM - Re: monument valley (kuffel)
19. 01:27 PM - enclosure (bryan green)
20. 01:51 PM - Re: Apology (jerb)
21. 02:58 PM - building (Paul Petty)
22. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 (John Hauck)
23. 03:31 PM - Look in the mirrow! (Terry)
24. 03:35 PM - Re: monument valley (John Hauck)
25. 04:31 PM - Resale value???s (Joel Reed)
26. 05:23 PM - Camping Gear For Cross Country Flying (John Hauck)
27. 06:01 PM - Re: Kolb List Activity (Larry Cottrell)
28. 06:15 PM - estrogen (Christopher Armstrong)
29. 06:32 PM - Re: Kolb List Activity (Joe Allman)
30. 06:41 PM - Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot (Larry Bourne)
31. 06:51 PM - Re: estrogen (Richard Harris)
32. 06:52 PM - Re: monument valley (Larry Bourne)
33. 07:28 PM - Re: Kolb List Activity (jerb)
34. 07:35 PM - Re: Resale value???s (Denny Rowe)
35. 07:39 PM - Re: Resale value???s (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
36. 07:45 PM - Re: building (woody)
37. 07:57 PM - Cpt Ron (G. Thompson)
38. 08:04 PM - Re: building (Bob Bean)
39. 08:24 PM - Re: building (Larry Bourne)
40. 08:32 PM - Re: spam (Larry Bourne)
41. 08:36 PM - used mark 3xtra (Linda Smalley)
42. 08:49 PM - Re: building wings (John Hauck)
43. 09:04 PM - Re: Apology (Dennis Souder)
44. 09:26 PM - Re: spam (Don Gherardini)
45. 09:58 PM - Surprise Number 2 (John Hauck)
46. 10:31 PM - Surprise (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | Corvair Turkeyshoot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
The squadron pilots gathered around their leader to hear the briefing for
the morning patrol. All were determined to avenge their fellow pilot
Wolfgang "Larry" von Volkswagon. Shot down by the notorious Twinstar
pilot, Hawk, Larry had been favorite at the squadron mess. Now a prisoner,
barefoot, the fate of the hapless Larry worried his mates in the squadron,
who missed his endless optimism.
"Dearly beloved," intoned the Padre, "No, wait a minute", he interrupted,
flipping through his briefing book. "Wrong chapter. Here we go," he
continued. "Keep the EGT below 1150 at all costs, and climb at 55 mph and
6400 rpm, or you'll freeze up for sure. And if you dive on the enemy, hit
the prime a couple time to keep from getting too lean, even if it means you
have to wait to arm the Spandaus. Remember, we've set the jets to give you
the greatest chance of getting home, but if you chop the throttle in a dive
the Hun in the Sun will be the least of your worries. As for the transition
from climb to cruise." the Padre droned on, and many of the squadron
fidgeted, anxious to come to grips with the enemy.
Meanwhile, at Surly-St. Gantt, the squadron leader strode before the young
pilots at attention on the flight line. "Remember," he emphasized,
"two-strokes are not evil".
The scouts looked at each other, unbelieving. "I flew two-strokes myself,"
said the Hawk. A murmur of disbelief fluttered through the squadron. "Yes,
it's true," squadron leader Hawk confirmed. "It's not the engine, it's the
pilot that makes a plane unworthy," stated the squadron leader, and the
pilots shifted uneasily at this heresy. But their concern over the squadron
leader's statements was cut short by the scream of a dozen overlean
twostrokes diving on Surly-St. Gantt, Spandaus rattling...
To be continued..
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
Well, getting the bug. Some of our group from Florida and beyond were
thinking of going to Monument Valley last year but our fly in ran right in
the middle of it. They wanted to go a week later but that fizzled. Bev and
I decided to go out west but make a month of it. Great time. The only
place we did not see was that particular area (on purpose). Now, you are
talking about the third weekend in May. That could be doable. Gonna see if
I can light the fire under my brothers in the South and maybe I can trailer
my little 'Greezed Lightn'n' Slingshot behind my ole Winnie and join you all
in the air. (Cannot leave Bev behind) If we do, it would add about four or
five more planes to your arsenal. I really would love to fly that area.
Seems it would be something you would never forget. By the way, does the
Slingshot have enough wing to fly in that altitude and heat? Gotta 582 IVO
pushing it and it will do 90 - 100 if I push on it. Ted.
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| Subject: | Corvair Turkeyshoot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
What a hoot! Awaiting the rest!
Dave Rains
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan McBride [SMTP:duncanmcbride@comcast.net]
Subject: Kolb-List: Corvair Turkeyshoot
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
The squadron pilots gathered around their leader to hear the briefing for
the morning patrol.
.......Snip
But their concern over the squadron
leader's statements was cut short by the scream of a dozen overlean
twostrokes diving on Surly-St. Gantt, Spandaus rattling...
To be continued..
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
George R
Firestar driver from ...The Villages now
george r The villages in texas?, also are we supose to type the DO NOT
ARCHIVE if we don't want our message saved? just askin' so i won't do
sumptin' wrong.
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| Subject: | Kolb List Activity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 07:54 PM 12/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>Whether we can fly, have flown a Kolb or any
>other airplane or not. Every body is samo samo.
>
>We should all come here for the same purpose; to build and
>fly Kolb airplanes.
>
>I do believe we should be self policing or the List will
>literally turn to feces.
>
John & List,
After I read the Kolb emails, I delete them and they go into a trash mailbox and
remain there until I delete them in mass. I was about to empty the trash mail,
and then I decided to look at it again.
In the last two months there were 1,386 emails to the Kolb list from 143 contributors.
Or just a little less than 10 emails per contributor on the average.
During the two month period, ten contributors sent more than 30 emails to the list,
and they responded 669 times and made up 48% of the list activity.
During the two month period, the activity order for these ten contributors was:
John Hauk - 157
Larry Bourne - 85
Richard Pike - 83
Captain Ron - 75
Paul Petty - 68
Aaron Hollingsworth - 57
Richard Neilsen - 42
Don Gherardini - 35
Denny Rowe - 34
Kirk Smith - 33
I agree, some self policing may be desirable.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
do not archive
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Has anybody out there in Kolbland ever put skis on a Mark 3? Wonder what I'd
do on the tail? Another ski or skid? Kirk
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I'm fed up with all these politically correct big words and general
> obsequiesness. Actually, I'm not really fed up at all
> George R
Hi George/All:
I had to look that one up. I am sad to report it was not in
Websters Dictionary, this one was though, "obsequious".
Days sure get short when one gets older.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> But their concern over the squadron
> leader's statements was cut short by the scream of a dozen overlean
> twostrokes diving on Surly-St. Gantt, Spandaus rattling...
>
>
> To be continued..
Morning Gang:
Come on Duncan. What's gonna happen next. :-)
john h
PS: Got up laughing with my first cup of coffee this
morning, as I read the adventures by Duncan McBride.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List Activity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> John Hauk - 157
> Larry Bourne - 85
> Richard Pike - 83
> Captain Ron - 75
> Paul Petty - 68
> Aaron Hollingsworth - 57
> Richard Neilsen - 42
> Don Gherardini - 35
> Denny Rowe - 34
> Kirk Smith - 33
>
> I agree, some self policing may be desirable.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
Hi Jack/Gang:
I agree wholeheartedly Mr Heart.
BTW: What was the implied purpose of your drill?
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Duncan,
This is awful good stuff pard!....kinda reminds me of how it is over at
Tommy's Airpark, where I keep my FireFly!
In fact it brings up similies in all kinds of areas to all our aviatin'
brotherhood...like the GA vs UL frictions....Cessna vs Piper.....heck Ford
Vs Chevy!
You are the first that I have seen to put to the pen the 4 stroke vs 2
stroke imagery and I luv it!
It also reminds me that here amoungst our aviatin brothers, we are supposed
to give each other a little chit once in awhile...and we all certainly
should be able to take it without gettin insulted.
I believe that in every list and internet community I participate in...there
is always somebody who gets a tad touchy over somebodys post from time to
time, and I have come to the conclusion long ago that it is not how a post
is written usually, but how it is read.
many things get copied and stuck into my files from this list.....mostly it
has all been tech...but this story....well Duncan...I just cant wait for
part 3!
Keep up the good work Duncan...I have visions of a best seller here!
Don Gherardini
Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List Activity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
OK, you've got me curious.....................just where are you going with
this ?? Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack & Louise Hart" <jbhart@ldd.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb List Activity
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
> At 07:54 PM 12/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >Whether we can fly, have flown a Kolb or any
> >other airplane or not. Every body is samo samo.
> >
> >We should all come here for the same purpose; to build and
> >fly Kolb airplanes.
> >
> >I do believe we should be self policing or the List will
> >literally turn to feces.
> >
>
> John & List,
>
> After I read the Kolb emails, I delete them and they go into a trash
mailbox and remain there until I delete them in mass. I was about to empty
the trash mail, and then I decided to look at it again.
>
> In the last two months there were 1,386 emails to the Kolb list from 143
contributors. Or just a little less than 10 emails per contributor on the
average.
>
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12/03/2003 12:15:22 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I too plan on attending the monument valley gig once more. Wife and kid
likely to be tagging along with me. Could someone else please bring their
7 or 8 year old along as well so my kid could be entertained ? Last year
she was stuck trying to teach John H. how to use a Palm Pilot during his
down hours, without much success I might add.
Guess I better get out and get the red dirt from last year off the
underside of the Mrk III. The result of a little scuffle with the water
truck out on the LZ....
See you all there.
Erich Weaver
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: CaptainRon <aerialron@yahoo.com>
No Ron, I do not think nor do I want to be the List
Boss or
the boss of anything anywhere anytime.
======================================
John you have a lot of experience with the Kolbs and
that is truly appreciated,, But.....
John I am glad that you agree that you are not the
list Boss. :-)
However if you want to think that you are the list
Boss, sheriff, King, Prince, Moderator, Commanding
Donkey, First Sergeant, or Alpha Male. Its OK.
The most important part in my post is also the one you
chose to ignore,,, ** its the part about your recent
nasty replies and retorts **. That's the part you need
to address. Not the part as to whether you are the
boss or if somebody else is the boss, or if someone
wants to push you off the top of the pyramid. The
impression that you give is that of a man that is on
the verge of loosing it anytime someone does not agree
with him. The favorite come back that you have when
its pointed out to you, is saying that you are not the
List Boss (usually emphasizing that about 20 times in
less than 5 words) :-). That you are just another
member of the list, and again of course emphasizing
that you are not the * boss * as you have done just
now. Its entertaining but in the context of the Kolb
list not constructive to * all * the members.
Anyway even if you are not the List Boss, or the
dominating alpha male, wouldn't it be nice if you
tried to be just like the rest? :-)
See some people may actually think that you are not
the Boss here, and get offended with your unwarranted
snippy remarks. lets be civil John. Polarizing the
list is really not a good thing.
One snippy remark begets another snippy remark and the
whole thing ends up being a place where the music is
too loud.
This list is growing John and things are not the way
they were, new people come in and they expect better
than, "I crushed my Kolb 200 times and I survived",
and that I flew around Earth 70 times on one quart of
gas in my snappy snazzy super modified MR Pepper flyer
so you better agree with me cozz I am the local hero.
;-)
For what its worth to you John, that's my impression
of you.
This is not meant to offend but to inform you.
Cheers
=====
Ron
Building M3X
Southern Arizona
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Apology.. apolog..apol..ap...ah nutz |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <ronoy@shentel.net>
Ah say, who'all askin' after me, especially by name?
As a Triple S man (SSS) I'm fain to enter the latest, and greatest(?)
Bladder-Emptying Contest. The Bard once espoused, when reading about
Rotaxes, "Me thinks he protesteth overmuch."
And from another Source : "B.S. turneth away wrath."
These are muth easier written than said if yer China Clippers are slithpin.
C'mon, gentle(?)men, stop this here caterwauling--yer disturbin' my old age.
Bob N. aka The Grey Baron
pee ess don't know what a triple S Man is? Sexy Senior Sitizen
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
At 07:56 PM 12/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>Duncan McBride wrote:
>
> > I feel like a little kid in his bedroom at night, hearing
> > mom and dad fighting in the kitchen.....
>
>Duncan/All:
>
>Try ear plugs or the ends of your index fingers.
>
>john h
John H,
You better straighten up or were going to have to send you to Nice School. ;
)
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2004 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
John, & Co.
> excellent cook. The Peltier's had the whole crew over to
> their BAMH for dinner one night.
Mama says she'll be going again so we can plan for at least one feed at
the "BAMH" (love it).
> I will never forget the first Saturday when everyone was
> arriving MV. We were all down at the airstrip, ankle deep
> in red desert dirt and dust when Mother Nature decided it
> was time for a thunderstorm in the desert. All 10,000 of us
> guys got in Dave's BAMH with red mud and all. He graciously
> invited us in out of the rain, mud and all.
As far as the mud goes, dirt is temporary - friends are permanent!
> Looking forward to return to MV.
>
> john h
Me too!
AzDave
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Duncan, this is great stuff! This list just keeps getting better all the time.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Corvair Turkeyshoot
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
> The squadron pilots gathered around their leader to hear the briefing for
> the morning patrol. All were determined to avenge their fellow pilot
> Wolfgang "Larry" von Volkswagon. Shot down by the notorious Twinstar
> pilot, Hawk, Larry had been favorite at the squadron mess. Now a prisoner,
> barefoot, the fate of the hapless Larry worried his mates in the squadron,
> who missed his endless optimism.
>
Snip...
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| Subject: | Re: monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Group,
The Whitefish Boss sez we can go back to Monument Valley this May also.
She is even willing to camp instead of renting a motel room in order to
shake down our gear for the Grand Alaska Kolb Trek.
<<Could someone else please bring their 7 or 8 year old along as well so
my kid could be entertained>>
We will probably bring our puppy, she will be about 8 in dog years.
Then again, the WF Boss claims I often act like an 8 year old so your
girl should have lots of company. (Any other listers have similar shoes
which fit?)
<<Last year she was stuck trying to teach John H. how to use a Palm
Pilot>>
Almost be worth buying one to get the tutoring. After 40 years
programming the beasts I'm hopelessly out of date in the personal
computing world.
<<get the red dirt from last year off the underside of the Mrk III>>
I'll try to get Boss Betty to clean the oil off the underside of the
Prospector which was deposited on the way back from MV last year when
the prop seal failed. As long as she makes me do most of the piloting,
I make her do most of the cleaning. (Not a gender division of labor he
said, trying to get out of politically correct trouble. If she'd do
most of the stick work then I'd do most of the scrubbing.)
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
Flying Homebuilt Prospector N5XK
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hey guys, if anyone on the list flying an original Firestar with a full enclosure
has any close up pics would you send me a couple off list. I have the installation
instructions for the old kit and would like to build my own. Do not archive
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
I agree, Richard did nothing. I think most of us that's been around for a
while realize that John H's comment was not to be taken seriously. John is
getting to be an old cogger and you know how they are, they get a little
cranky for no good reason especially when they don't fly enough.
jerb
do not archive
At 08:50 PM 12/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Apology
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> >
> > As one who was a culprit in the unpleasantness currently troubling the
> > list, I would like to express my apologies to the list members. It will
>not
> > happen again.
>
>
>List,
> I have been mostly amused at this recent "unpleasantness". I never felt
>that Richard had done or said anything that would require an apology. In
>fact I found it amusing (whether it was intended that way or not) that he
>was driven to possible impoliteness over the defaming of the corvair engine.
>Most of us through the influence of Ralph Nader, immediately imagine the
>worst, ugly, oil soaked, smoking, engine ever invented. Never having known
>one personally that didn't fit that particular description myself, I didn't
>feel called on to defend its impugned honor. However apparently Richard does
>know otherwise. Preachers always feel honor bound to tell the truth, so he
>did. :-) Then John in what I took to be humor, stated the obvious in such a
>dry succinct way that for a moment I envied him. However during the whole
>exchange I never got the impression that assailed Capt Ron. Perhaps I was
>remiss in my observations. If so, please forgive me for my ignorance.
>Larry, Oregon
>do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Hi Kolbers,
I was wondering. The plans do not appear to give a step by step way of building
the wings. Like, first do this, second do this and so on. I would like to hear
some opinions on what order the construction process should be carried out.
Make it simple.
Something like.
1.lay out and measure leading edge.
2.insert and drill and rivet wing root
3 slide on ribs.
4.make trailing edge piece
5.install root false nose
6.make the tip bow
and so on. Just a simple deal to keep me from making huge mistakes hopefully
Thanks
pp
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2004 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Arizona Dave/Ya'll:
> Mama says she'll be going again so we can plan for at
> least one feed at the "BAMH" (love it).
I'll be there on time, even it I have to walk, just to get a
seat at the Pelletier's picnic table. They put on a super
supper last Spring for us. Everyone thoroughly enjoyed the
feed and the videos we shared afterwards were a blast.
> As far as the mud goes, dirt is temporary - friends are
> permanent!
Thank you, Brother. Those are nice words.
I believe the folks that made the effort to show at MV last
Spring, are representative of a cross section of the good
people on this List. A lot of us had never met eye ball to
eye ball, until we gathered at MV. In minutes we were one
big happy family. We camped, talked, ate, talked, watched
the airplanes fly, talked, we flew and talked, and we built
a big fire at night and looked at the stars, told lies, and
talked and talked.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Look in the mirrow! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Ron ( AKA CaptainRon) Whatever you real name is,
I remember the list before you joined in with all of you criticism and
negativity and wondered who the heck you thought you were. Then we were
all treated to your absence for most of the last year. Unfortunately you
have returned, much to the detriment of the list. I have gained much
from this list and am still looking for anything positive you have to
offer!
For you to lecture someone else on good manners and decorum is
laughable. Maybe you should cast out the log in your own eye before
looking for the speck in others.
Go rail on some other list where they might think you and your fake title
are of some importance,
Terry - FireFly
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| Subject: | Re: monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> The Whitefish Boss sez we can go back to Monument Valley this May also.
> She is even willing to camp instead of renting a motel room in order to
> shake down our gear for the Grand Alaska Kolb Trek.
> Tom Kuffel
Hi Tom/All:
Glad to hear you all are coming.
Good idea to shake down your gear on a one or two nighter
than to get committed to a long cross country and find you
ain't got what you need, or you got a lot more than you need.
How long until Spring?
john h
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| Subject: | Resale value???s |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joel Reed" <jfreed@dejazzd.com>
Hello Kolbers,
I have been considering changing the engine on my 1993 Kolb Mark III. I am
now currently flying with a Rotax 582 Blue head turning a 68" IVO prop. The
engine works great and I like it, however I dislike the high fuel burn and I am
somewhat more interested in turning over to a 4 stroke engine. A Rotax 912
would probably be the best direction, but my budget is not that level. And as
of now I have been considering alternatives such as VW engine from Great Plains,
Geo Metro/Raven redrive. I was just wondering if any of you guys would
know if those engine would have alot of effect on the resale value of my plane?
Bad or good?
I would appreciate any input. Thanks
Joel Reed
1993 Kolb Mark III
Lancaster, Pa
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| Subject: | Camping Gear For Cross Country Flying |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Gang:
Here is a super buy on the best Thermarest mattress:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=7535&prmenbr=226
Here is an excellent buy on a summer sleeping bag:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=28774988&prmenbr=226
These two items are essential to a good nights sleep if you
are going to try roughing it on some cross countries this
coming summer.
Not only do I save a lot of money, sleeping under the wing,
but I also save a lot of time staying with my airplane. In
the morning when it is time to take off, I don't want to
have to wait half the day for a ride back to the airport
from the motel. On several occasions I have had my planned
ride to the airport fall through, leaving me standing there
in the lobby with two double loads of gear to hand carry.
I was in need of a good summer bag until I got this
advertisement, but now I am not. Just ordered the North
Face 40F Long. It comes with a net bag and a stuff sack.
The Thermarest is an excellent bargain, about $25 off their
regular price.
Sleeping bag is $40 off.
Before I go, here's a good buy on a nice tent:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=226&prrfnbr=23671169
Take care,
john h
PS: If for some reason, what I post does not please you,
please hit the "delete" key first, then drive on to the next
post.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List Activity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> > John Hauk - 157
> > Larry Bourne - 85
> > Richard Pike - 83
> > Captain Ron - 75
> > Paul Petty - 68
> > Aaron Hollingsworth - 57
> > Richard Neilsen - 42
> > Don Gherardini - 35
> > Denny Rowe - 34
> > Kirk Smith - 33
> >
> > I agree, some self policing may be desirable.
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
OK, here we go again! This will be twice in two days that I have felt
compelled to post to this list. I will have to pace myself, lest I be lumped
in with the "Mouthy list". The question that the original post brought to
mind was as follows. Yes these people form the most active part of this
list. Having said that, the fact that they post often to the list doesn't
mean that someone else is deprived of that right. Correct? What it actually
means is that these are the people that respond to questions that are
brought up by the newer builders and people that are wanting to do things
that will make their planes a bit more convenient or better. I can recall a
time earlier that Hauk was vacationing, and there was a flyin somewhere that
the other "mouthy" members were attending. One of the questions posed to a
oddly empty list was- "Is the list still working"? " Where is every body"?
If I may make a suggestion- If some of these listed people get on your
nerves and you don't want to see what they have to say, then by all means
head them off at the pass. Open the message, click on the "MESSAGE" on the
tool bar, click on 'CREATE RULE FROM THIS MESSAGE, the first option will be-
WHERE THE FROM LINE CONTAINS PEOPLE, that should be checked, the next option
will give you the choice of MOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT FOLDER, DELETING IT, OR
FORWARDING IT. Chose DELETE IT, and you will still have the rest of the list
without being bothered by any of these people again. Personally I appreciate
the fact that they are willing to comment on the things that are brought
forward for discussion. I may not always agree with them, but if you don't
mind I would just as soon that you take the above suggestion for yourself
and let the rest of us make up our own mind about the worth of their
comments.
Your humble Servant,
Larry, Oregon
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Did somebody put estrogen in the water at the last kolb list meeting? I
have not heard so much whining since I was forced to go to a breast
feeding class with my wife. I am tired of getting ten e-mails a day of
girl talk.
Do not archive
Topher
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| Subject: | Kolb List Activity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
Amen
Joe SS 582 VA
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb List Activity
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> > John Hauk - 157
> > Larry Bourne - 85
> > Richard Pike - 83
> > Captain Ron - 75
> > Paul Petty - 68
> > Aaron Hollingsworth - 57
> > Richard Neilsen - 42
> > Don Gherardini - 35
> > Denny Rowe - 34
> > Kirk Smith - 33
> >
> > I agree, some self policing may be desirable.
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
OK, here we go again! This will be twice in two days that I have felt
compelled to post to this list. I will have to pace myself, lest I be lumped
i....
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Turkeyshoot |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Don't distract him.................I wanna hear the rest of it - 'specially
the part about the evil Hawk. Hehehehe...................
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Corvair Turkeyshoot
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski"
<edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Duncan, this is great stuff! This list just keeps getting better all the
time.
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
> Do not archive.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Corvair Turkeyshoot
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride"
<duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
> >
> > The squadron pilots gathered around their leader to hear the briefing
for
> > the morning patrol. All were determined to avenge their fellow pilot
> > Wolfgang "Larry" von Volkswagon. Shot down by the notorious Twinstar
> > pilot, Hawk, Larry had been favorite at the squadron mess. Now a
prisoner,
> > barefoot, the fate of the hapless Larry worried his mates in the
squadron,
> > who missed his endless optimism.
> >
> Snip...
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Yea Topher, You, as usually, are right on the mark. I liked it when the
list was for building infomation and help for those of us that need it..
thank you.......
Richard Harris
MK3 N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: estrogen
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong"
<tophera@centurytel.net>
>
>
> Did somebody put estrogen in the water at the last kolb list meeting? I
> have not heard so much whining since I was forced to go to a breast
> feeding class with my wife. I am tired of getting ten e-mails a day of
> girl talk.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Topher
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: monument valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I bet he doesn't let Mama, aka "Whitefish Boss" read his emails,
either.............'specially the outgoing ones. :-) Couldn't
resist it........... Do not Archive. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: monument valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> > The Whitefish Boss sez we can go back to Monument Valley this May also.
> > She is even willing to camp instead of renting a motel room in order to
> > shake down our gear for the Grand Alaska Kolb Trek.
>
> > Tom Kuffel
>
> Hi Tom/All:
>
> Glad to hear you all are coming.
>
> Good idea to shake down your gear on a one or two nighter
> than to get committed to a long cross country and find you
> ain't got what you need, or you got a lot more than you need.
>
> How long until Spring?
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List Activity |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
So what's the problem - do you prefer a dead list? For the most part, most
post on are on the topic of building or flying Kolb's. If it is because
you feel your getting to many messages you can change your status to digest
and go out and read them on demand. If you made a favorable contribution
to Matt, you can get a CD with all messages from the groups beginning -
that way you have all the information but not have to down load all the
messages.
jerb
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At 07:26 AM 12/3/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
>At 07:54 PM 12/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >Whether we can fly, have flown a Kolb or any
> >other airplane or not. Every body is samo samo.
> >
> >We should all come here for the same purpose; to build and
> >fly Kolb airplanes.
> >
> >I do believe we should be self policing or the List will
> >literally turn to feces.
> >
>
>John & List,
>
>After I read the Kolb emails, I delete them and they go into a trash
>mailbox and remain there until I delete them in mass. I was about to
>empty the trash mail, and then I decided to look at it again.
>
>In the last two months there were 1,386 emails to the Kolb list from 143
>contributors. Or just a little less than 10 emails per contributor on the
>average.
>
>During the two month period, ten contributors sent more than 30 emails to
>the list, and they responded 669 times and made up 48% of the list activity.
>
>During the two month period, the activity order for these ten contributors
>was:
>
>John Hauk - 157
>Larry Bourne - 85
>Richard Pike - 83
>Captain Ron - 75
>Paul Petty - 68
>Aaron Hollingsworth - 57
>Richard Neilsen - 42
>Don Gherardini - 35
>Denny Rowe - 34
>Kirk Smith - 33
>
>I agree, some self policing may be desirable.
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Jackson, MO
>
>
>do not archive
>
>
>Jack & Louise Hart
>jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Resale value???s |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
.com>
>
> Hello Kolbers,
>
> I have been considering changing the engine on my 1993 Kolb Mark III.
I am now currently flying with a Rotax 582 Blue head turning a 68" IVO prop.
The engine works great and I like it, however I dislike the high fuel burn
and I am somewhat more interested in turning over to a 4 stroke engine. A
Rotax 912 would probably be the best direction, but my budget is not that
level. And as of now I have been considering alternatives such as VW
engine from Great Plains, Geo Metro/Raven redrive. I was just wondering
if any of you guys would know if those engine would have alot of effect on
the resale value of my plane? Bad or good?
> I would appreciate any input. Thanks
> Joel Reed
> 1993 Kolb Mark III
> Lancaster, Pa
Joel,
You might keep a close eye out for a used 912, good ones are around in the
$6-7k neighborhood from folks who switched to the 912S model.
Just a thought.
Dennis Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Resale value???s |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I would like to think that putting a VW on a Kolb would make it worth a
fortune...... Well back to reality I think that a VW or GEO engine would
reduce the resale value. These engine aren't main stream and most people
don't know much about them. At some point when enough people are flying VWs
in MKIIIs this will change. When this happens someone will step forward and
offer engine packages for the MKIII and people will wonder why anyone ever
put a 2 stroke on a MKIII and maybe even a 912????? I can't speak for the
GEO but the HP ratings look to be a bit low for a MKIII. The reduction drive
VW performs on par with the 912 and burns 4 gallons per hour. I had a long
talk with Gene Smith at Valley Engineering tonight. He was telling me he is
working on a 2.5 to one reduction redrive with a 8 foot prop that will be
used in a Dawn Patrol Biplane. He claims that with that prop on his airplane
he can climb almost strait up.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Reed" <jfreed@dejazzd.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Resale value???s
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joel Reed" <jfreed@dejazzd.com>
>
> Hello Kolbers,
>
> I have been considering changing the engine on my 1993 Kolb Mark III.
I am now currently flying with a Rotax 582 Blue head turning a 68" IVO prop.
The engine works great and I like it, however I dislike the high fuel burn
and I am somewhat more interested in turning over to a 4 stroke engine. A
Rotax 912 would probably be the best direction, but my budget is not that
level. And as of now I have been considering alternatives such as VW
engine from Great Plains, Geo Metro/Raven redrive. I was just wondering
if any of you guys would know if those engine would have alot of effect on
the resale value of my plane? Bad or good?
> I would appreciate any input. Thanks
> Joel Reed
> 1993 Kolb Mark III
> Lancaster, Pa
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I think what I did was slide the ribs on the main spar and then the
inboard steel rib. Rivit this rib on. Everything will be measured from this
rib. I installed the front and rear spars and temporarily duct taped the
first and last ribs to the spar and the other ribs placed in position along
the main spar and leading and trailing edges.. Take your time getting
everything alined and then rivit the ribs on. One rivit for main spar and
one for trailing and leading edges ( there will still be a bit of twisting
in the wing). When all is set and perfect install the rest of the rivits. I
found it easier to work on saw horses. The wing tips can then be finished in
what ever order you wish later. I hope this helps.
This is probably my last post to the list.. The spammers are getting to
me. I get 80 emails a day and 50 of them are spams. The bastards won this
time. Only option I have is get a new address and avoid submitting my email
adress to lists and other internet locations. I've had fun here and made a
few friends ( probably enemies too but what the heck). I am remaining a Kolb
supporter and will always promote my favourite aircraft. Current count at my
airstrip is 5 flying or almost ready to fly Kolbs and one under
reconstruction. See ya in Kentucky in Sept.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: building
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Hi Kolbers,
> I was wondering. The plans do not appear to give a step by step way of
building the wings. Like, first do this, second do this and so on. I would
like to hear some opinions on what order the construction process should be
carried out. Make it simple.
> Something like.
> 1.lay out and measure leading edge.
> 2.insert and drill and rivet wing root
> 3 slide on ribs.
> 4.make trailing edge piece
> 5.install root false nose
> 6.make the tip bow
> and so on. Just a simple deal to keep me from making huge mistakes
hopefully
>
> Thanks
>
> pp
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
Me thinks your skin is much too thin.
The Bald Eagle of Az.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Woody, we'll miss ya......but then again most major ISP's will offer
you a second email address. take a look. -BB do not archive
woody wrote:
> This is probably my last post to the list.. The spammers are getting to
>me. I get 80 emails a day and 50 of them are spams. The bastards won this
>time. Only option I have is get a new address and avoid submitting my email
>adress to lists and other internet locations. I've had fun here and made a
>few friends ( probably enemies too but what the heck). I am remaining a Kolb
>supporter and will always promote my favourite aircraft. Current count at my
>airstrip is 5 flying or almost ready to fly Kolbs and one under
>reconstruction. See ya in Kentucky in Sept.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: building
>
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>>
>>Hi Kolbers,
>>I was wondering. The plans do not appear to give a step by step way of
>>
>>
>building the wings. Like, first do this, second do this and so on. I would
>like to hear some opinions on what order the construction process should be
>carried out. Make it simple.
>
>
>>Something like.
>>1.lay out and measure leading edge.
>>2.insert and drill and rivet wing root
>>3 slide on ribs.
>>4.make trailing edge piece
>>5.install root false nose
>>6.make the tip bow
>>and so on. Just a simple deal to keep me from making huge mistakes
>>
>>
>hopefully
>
>
>>Thanks
>>
>>pp
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Paul, before you rivet the wing root, measure your spar, then measure the
holes in the ribs. Some will be *slightly* larger, like a 1,000th or so.
You can even bend the edges a bit to open them slightly. Smooth them out,
and start from each end with the ribs with the largest holes. The ones with
the smaller holes go on the ends, where you don't have to slide them so far.
I silicone sprayed my spars to make them go on easier - and you DON'T want
ANY scratches on those precious spars. Use your fingertips to feel the
inside of the rib holes, and especially on the cut edges. You can feel a
rough spot that you can't see. Polish 'em. Be patient and gentle, and ease
them into position. As I recall, on my Mk III plans (it's been 7 years ! !
!) it's fairly straightforward after that. Clamp the leading and trailing
edges in place, square everything up, put the wing root in
place.............and triple check EVerything before you drill hole 1. When
you rivet, make sure that the rib hole edges are flat against the spar
before you pop the rivet. When I started on my tail boom, I made wooden
blocks with 1/2 circle cut-outs to set the boom in...........then rotated
it, to do something, and a chip of metal stuck in the wood made a big
scratch part way around the boom. It was near one end, and took hours to
polish out. Food for thought. Also, take a look on my website, under
Building Vamoose/The Wings. Good Luck. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: building
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Hi Kolbers,
> I was wondering. The plans do not appear to give a step by step way of
building the wings. Like, first do this, second do this and so on. I would
like to hear some opinions on what order the construction process should be
carried out. Make it simple.
> Something like.
> 1.lay out and measure leading edge.
> 2.insert and drill and rivet wing root
> 3 slide on ribs.
> 4.make trailing edge piece
> 5.install root false nose
> 6.make the tip bow
> and so on. Just a simple deal to keep me from making huge mistakes
hopefully
>
> Thanks
>
> pp
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hate to see ya go, Woody............you're a good contributor, and I'd hate
to see the end of news of the Flying Totem Pole and all the Koostum
engineering. My ratio is worse than yours...........about 60 or 70 spams to
10 "good" messages, and I'm thinking about changing my address in the near
future. If necessary, I'll change it again, after that. Hang in there,
buddy. Don't let the b-----ds get ya down - tell us you're gonna stay with
us. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: building
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Woody, we'll miss ya......but then again most major ISP's will offer
> you a second email address. take a look. -BB do not archive
>
> woody wrote:
>
> > This is probably my last post to the list.. The spammers are getting
to
> >me. I get 80 emails a day and 50 of them are spams. The bastards won this
> >time. Only option I have is get a new address and avoid submitting my
email
> >adress to lists and other internet locations. I've had
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Linda Smalley" <kelinda@mindspring.com>
any chance to find a slightly used mark 3 xtra with 912s. if anyone has any leads
let me know. ken
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Larry/Paul/Gang:
Here's an easier way to make the main spar gussets of the
wing ribs fit the main spar. If the gusset is too
small/tight, it takes about two seconds to enlarge the hole.
Be careful or you will make it too big.
Remember your Mama's rolling pin? You can make a rolling
pin out of some scrap aluminum tubing. Hold the rib between
your knees, stick your rolling pin through the main spar
gusset, make several revolutions around the inside of the
hole. Stick it on the main spar to see if it is large
enough to slide on. If not, make a couple more rounds in
the main spar gusset and check you fit again.
Works for me.
That short cut took many years to discover. Prior to that I
did like everybody else does. Look for emery paper, buffing
wheel, sander or something to remove material to make the
hole bigger, which in turn weakens the main spar gusset.
The rolling pin method bends out the edge of the hole that
was made with a die and press.
john h
PS: I think I gave this info to Paul on ICQ some time ago,
but I bet he forgot.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
Richard,
I read and re-read your Corvair msg and I can't quite figure out what you
are aplogizing for.
You may not be the list boss - but you are the big man on the list!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Apology
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> As one who was a culprit in the unpleasantness currently troubling the
> list, I would like to express my apologies to the list members. It will
not
> happen again.
>
> Merry Christmas and Tailwinds to all
> Richard Pike
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Woody, before ya go..I'd like to say thanks for your past contributions.
And I would also like to tell you that you need to make a call to your
ISP...this one, or the new one, as so should everybody else that suffers
from spam, and tell them you want a spam filter...if they dont offer the
service...then tell em G'bye and find one who does. These are services
provided by other contractors to prefilter the mail for spam..they work
fantastic and my isp offers it for 1 dollar a month on top of the reg
bill..along with that you get a virus screening service that auto updates it
definitions twice a day...If all isp's offered it..I bet with no
revenue...the spammers will have to start selling shoes.
Here.....send them this link...the service my ISP uses is Postini....
http://www.postini.com/
Im sure there are lots of these companies...
Sometimes a the squeaky wheel get the oil Woody!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Surprise Number 2 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
Operator failure. Posted the same url twice and miss the
spinner url.
http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Warp%20Drive/Spinner
For all the Vietnam Veterans:
20,000 Xin Loi's!
For the rest of you all:
Sorry about that.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
At 2300 tonight heard some noise outside. Stuck my head out
the side door to see if it was raining. Sure enough was,
and leaning up againsT the door was my new 72" Warp Drive
Prop. Daryl and his gang did a beautiful job on it. The
new HP hub is polished, it has a black anodized crush plate
that the 5.125" spinner mounts on. Unlike the old hubs and
spinners, this one fits nice and neat. No big overlap of
spinner on hub. The old overlapped spinners would work in
the tractor configuration, but not in the pusher.
I don't have a digital camera, but I made some crude
pictures with my scanner.
This is the new blade with white tips:
http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Warp%20Drive/Warp%20Blade.jpg
Polished hub. Didn't try to put the scanner lid on it, but
a piece of printer paper worked pretty good:
http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Warp%20Drive/Hub.jpg
Finally the spinner, which didn't turn out so good:
http://home.sw.rr.com/jhauck/Warp%20Drive/Hub.jpg
Now the weather has turned sour for a few days. Will have
to wait until it clears up to put the new prop on Miss P'fer
and test fly. This is the same size as my old prop was
originally, 72".
Take care,
john h
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