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Tue 12/09/03


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 05:35 AM - Re: Inflight adjustable props ()
     2. 05:50 AM - Re: Inflight adjustable props (Kirk Smith)
     3. 06:13 AM - Re: Inflight adjustable props (Kirk Smith)
     4. 06:15 AM - Re: Covering (Bob Bean)
     5. 07:41 AM - Re: Covering (Larry Bourne)
     6. 08:35 AM - Re: Covering (Kirk Smith)
     7. 08:41 AM - Re: Covering (Kirk Smith)
     8. 08:47 AM - Re: Covering (Bob Bean)
     9. 08:49 AM - Latex  (Kirk Smith)
    10. 09:29 AM - Re: 2nd Solo - soft field landing (Ben Ransom)
    11. 09:32 AM - Re: Latex  (Kirk Smith)
    12. 10:11 AM - Re: 3rd Party Liability Insurance (Vic)
    13. 11:25 AM - Re: Covering (bryan green)
    14. 02:54 PM - Re: 2nd Solo (Paul Petty)
    15. 04:31 PM - Cleaning (Paul Petty)
    16. 05:04 PM - Re: Covering (Larry Bourne)
    17. 05:22 PM - Re: Cleaning (Terry)
    18. 06:06 PM - Wright Challange On the History Chanel (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    19. 06:58 PM - Kolb trips (Richard Harris)
    20. 08:21 PM - Quieter prop, etc. (Richard Pike)
    21. 09:13 PM - Re: Kolb trips (John Williamson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:35:00 AM PST US
    From: <JJP45@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Inflight adjustable props
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <JJP45@comcast.net> It somewhat erks me to read all the mis-information on this list about in - flight ajustable props on two strokes . There was a PROFFESIONAL article in Ultralight Flying just a few months back about how well suited in-flight ajustables ARE for two strokes . I think that it is more of a preference thing or more so a capability issue than suitablity . ps: Don't go to a dentist for a heart problem. JJP FS II 503 DCDI ( in-flight adjustable , 68" Ivo ) ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Inflight adjustable props > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GeoR38@aol.com> > . If the rpm is less than the peak > > torque point on the curve, then the hp is down again providing less hp > ouput > > to couple to the airstream as well. Only at that one rpm would the > horsepower > > be optimized and available to couple with the surrounding airstream. > > By George I believe that you have it! I think that is why they do not work > well on the two strokes. It puzzled me a lot when I brought the Mark III > home. Altitude here is 4100 feet. The plane came from 300 feet. I expected > to have trouble with the EGT's at the higher altitude. The prop had > defaulted to 6100 rpm's and was not working. The egt's were 1050. I tried > changing the needle settings, egt's went up. I had to send the motor to the > adjustable in to be repaired, (75.00) since it wasn't working under load. At > 6100, the best cruise that I could get was 62 MPH (GPS) I cranked it as far > up as I could get it- 6500 rpms, cruise went up to 67 mph (GPS) Egt's went > up to 1200. The egt's didn't go up on the full throttle, but it did in the > midrange area.I could have changed the jets to reflect the proper egt's at > the max rpm's. but I still think it would have been screwy and not worth the > effort. Where I am speed counts. Its sometimes a long way to the next > refueling area. > Larry, Oregon > >


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    Time: 05:50:08 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Inflight adjustable props
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Richard, How do these figures compare to before the mods? How much speed do you figure making it a full parasol gave you? Did making it a parasol cut down on prop noise? Thanks! Kirk > Flight testing yesterday, (winter rejet) full throttle level flight was 95 mph. > At 5300rpm, cruise was 70. Do not archive


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    Time: 06:13:22 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Inflight adjustable props
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> I realize it would be a lot of work but do you think you could find that article , copy and post it to the list? Thanks!!!! Kirk ". There was a PROFFESIONAL article in Ultralight Flying just > a few months back > about how well suited in-flight ajustables ARE for two strokes ." Do not archive


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    Time: 06:15:41 AM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> You could glue a paisley print vinyl wall paper on..:) -Seriously that MEK really makes me feel bad, I will never use MEK bearing materials/glue, etc. unless the barn doors are WIDE open. BB do not archive Mike Pierzina (by way of Matt Dralle ) wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> (by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>) > >Do Not Archive, > > I don't get it...A guy asks about covering ...and Everybody's reply is >about PAINTING ...? > The covering and Brush coat can take quite a bit of time.... Oh well, >just another typical day... > > Or maybe you guys painted the fabric BEFORE you glued it on... > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN (Heated Garage) > FSII - Taping Wing for Trim Colors. > P.S. My laser works good at making straight lines over those scalloped >surfaces > >--- >Sometimes you just have to take the leap >and build your wings on the way down... > Gotta Fly... > > >Free Poetry Contest. Win $10,000. Submit your poem @ Poetry.com! >http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6750922;3807821;l?http://www.poetry.com/contest/contest.asp?Suite=A59101 > > > >


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    Time: 07:41:58 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> A couple of years ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the water based paint system for airplanes. Haven't heard anything lately. Anyone know why ?? A couple of Kolb-ers tried it and really liked it. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Messag e ----- From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> > > You could glue a paisley print vinyl wall paper on..:) > -Seriously that MEK really makes me feel bad, I will never use MEK bearing > materials/glue, etc. unless the barn doors are WIDE open. BB do not archive > > Mike Pierzina (by way of Matt Dralle ) wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> (by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>) > > > >Do Not Archive, > > > > I don't get it...A guy asks about covering ...and Everybody's reply is > >about PAINTING ...? > > The covering and Brush coat can take quite a bit of time.... Oh well, > >just another typical day... > > > > Or maybe you guys painted the fabric BEFORE you glued it on... > > > > Gotta Fly... > > Mike in MN (Heated Garage) > > FSII - Taping Wing for Trim Colors. > > P.S. My laser works good at making straight lines over those scalloped > >surfaces > > > >--- > >Sometimes you just have to take the leap > >and build your wings on the way down... > > Gotta Fly... > > > > > >Free Poetry Contest. Win $10,000. Submit your poem @ Poetry.com! > >http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6750922;3807821;l?http://www.poetry.com/conte st/contest.asp?Suite=A59101 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:35:46 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> > A couple of years ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the water based > paint system for airplanes. Haven't heard anything lately. Interesting article on latex paint. http://www.lightminiatureaircraft.com/generic34.html Do not archive


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    Time: 08:41:27 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Another discussion on latex... http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read=22945 Do not archive


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    Time: 08:47:18 AM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> It's a matter of inertia....go with what works, understandable a builder doesn't want to toss bad money after good on a sizeable investment. -but I would definitely go that route next time. In my project I was stuck with matching what I had. I remember the reluctance when dacron first came along, some insisted on Grade A cotton or linen to "keep it original" on an antique/classic. .......Wrong, then you are faced with having to do it all over in a few short years. There was no question in my mind in 1971 which way I wanted to go. I think Ed Steuber uses the water emulsion stuff. It would be interesting to know if it's vinyl based. -BB Larry Bourne wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > >A couple of years ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the water based >paint system for airplanes. Haven't heard anything lately. Anyone know why >?? A couple of Kolb-ers tried it and really liked it. Lar. > >Larry Bourne >Palm Springs, CA >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB >www.gogittum.com >----- Original Messag >e ----- >From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering > > > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> >> >>You could glue a paisley print vinyl wall paper on..:) >>-Seriously that MEK really makes me feel bad, I will never use MEK >> >> >bearing > > >>materials/glue, etc. unless the barn doors are WIDE open. BB do not >> >> >archive > > >>Mike Pierzina (by way of Matt Dralle ) wrote: >> >> >> >>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> >>> >>> >(by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>) > > >>>Do Not Archive, >>> >>> I don't get it...A guy asks about covering ...and Everybody's reply >>> >>> >is > > >>>about PAINTING ...? >>> The covering and Brush coat can take quite a bit of time.... Oh well, >>>just another typical day... >>> >>> Or maybe you guys painted the fabric BEFORE you glued it on... >>> >>> Gotta Fly... >>> Mike in MN (Heated Garage) >>> FSII - Taping Wing for Trim Colors. >>> P.S. My laser works good at making straight lines over those scalloped >>>surfaces >>> >>>--- >>>Sometimes you just have to take the leap >>>and build your wings on the way down... >>> Gotta Fly... >>> >>> >>>Free Poetry Contest. Win $10,000. Submit your poem @ Poetry.com! >>> >>> >>http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6750922;3807821;l?http://www.poetry.com/conte >> >> >st/contest.asp?Suite=A59101 > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 08:49:27 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Latex
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> More stuff http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read22491 http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read22492 http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read22493 http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read22496 On latex......... Do not archive


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    Time: 09:29:02 AM PST US
    From: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 2nd Solo - soft field landing
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com> I forgot to mention the benefit of power on soft field landings per se. (The other posts on this thread mention the benefit of power on approach in general.) Anyway, keeping a little power all the way till you want to stop is a good idea in soft field work. This keeps some air across the tail, helping you keep the tail down, opposing the nose over force of wheels going thru the mud. -Ben do not archive --- Dale Sellers <dsel1@bellsouth.net> wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net> > > Paul, > > I'm sorry I missed you on my trip to Ms last week. On the way over > my car > threw a rod in Selma. I left it there and rented a car for the rest > of the > trip. On the way back, my wife met me in Selma with my truck and I > rented a > dolly and towed it home. It is an 88 Chrysler Labaron. is showing > 167K > miles but it ran good and didn't use any oil. I guess it was it's > time to > go. Luckily, I already had a new short block for it. I'll change it > out > when I get time. > > I'm busy getting my Ultra Star back in the air. I wiped the gear out > and am > making repairs. > > About your soft field landings etc., I have only flown one Kolb and > that's > my Ultra Star. I've been a private pilot for 35 years and have built > and > flown two experimentals before the Kolb. I don't know about the > other Kolbs > but mine is so light until if you cut the power it will literally > stop. It > doesn't have enough mass weight for momentum so if you can't cut the > power > when you see you've got the field made and flare at idle and wait for > it to > settle onto the runway. You have to carry about 3500 RPM's all the > way to > the ground. If you don't, it will stop when you cut the power and > stall. > That's what happened to my gear. > > The other Kolbs might handle differently. > > Dale Sellers > Georgia Ultra Star. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: 2nd Solo > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > > > Kolbers, > > Today I logged my second solo! Was fantastic! Conditions near > perfect, > slight 8 knot cross. Practiced some soft field landings ect.... On > the way > home I was thinking about Kolbs of course and wondering how soft > field > landings are performed in them. Being a short time student pilot in a > 150 > even thinking about it in the landing phase. Holding that nose in the > air > until it drops on it's own and so forth. Also reminding myself why > this > procedure it important in the first place. Force landings in soft > dirt or > even mud. > > What's the procedure for Kolbs in this situation? > > > > Been some real nice post this week. Headed to the shop to work on > Ms.Dixie... > > > > Later Guys > > > > the student > > > > pp > > > > > > > > _-> > > > > > > ===== http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~ransom __________________________________


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    Time: 09:32:33 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: Latex
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> Corrected addresses........sorry.....Kirk > More stuff http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read=22491 > > http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read=22492 > > http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read=22493 > > http://www.n566aj.com/cgi-bin/bbs/discuss.cgi?read=22496 > > On latex......... Do not archive


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    Time: 10:11:55 AM PST US
    From: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
    Subject: Re: 3rd Party Liability Insurance
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com> USUA announced today that 3rd party liability will be available for single and two place untralights sometime afte January 2004. For more information see http://www.usua.org/Insurance/Insurance.html Do not archive


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    Time: 11:25:56 AM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Here is a link to waterborne finishing Guys the Dawn Patrol uses it on there planes. http://www.aircraftfinishing.com/ Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> > > It's a matter of inertia....go with what works, understandable a builder > doesn't > want to toss bad money after good on a sizeable investment. -but I would > definitely go that route next time. In my project I was stuck with matching > what I had. I remember the reluctance when dacron first came along, > some insisted on Grade A cotton or linen to "keep it original" on an > antique/classic. .......Wrong, then you are faced with having to do it all > over in a few short years. There was no question in my mind in 1971 > which way I wanted to go. I think Ed Steuber uses the water emulsion > stuff. It would be interesting to know if it's vinyl based. -BB > > Larry Bourne wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > > >A couple of years ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the water based > >paint system for airplanes. Haven't heard anything lately. Anyone know why > >?? A couple of Kolb-ers tried it and really liked it. Lar. > > > >Larry Bourne > >Palm Springs, CA > >Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB > >www.gogittum.com > >----- Original Messag > >e ----- > >From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> > >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering > > > > > > > > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> > >> > >>You could glue a paisley print vinyl wall paper on..:) > >>-Seriously that MEK really makes me feel bad, I will never use MEK > >> > >> > >bearing > > > > > >>materials/glue, etc. unless the barn doors are WIDE open. BB do not > >> > >> > >archive > > > > > >>Mike Pierzina (by way of Matt Dralle ) wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> > >>> > >>> > >(by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>) > > > > > >>>Do Not Archive, > >>> > >>> I don't get it...A guy asks about covering ...and Everybody's reply > >>> > >>> > >is > > > > > >>>about PAINTING ...? > >>> The covering and Brush coat can take quite a bit of time.... Oh well, > >>>just another typical day... > >>> > >>> Or maybe you guys painted the fabric BEFORE you glued it on... > >>> > >>> Gotta Fly... > >>> Mike in MN (Heated Garage) > >>> FSII - Taping Wing for Trim Colors. > >>> P.S. My laser works good at making straight lines over those scalloped > >>>surfaces > >>> > >>>--- > >>>Sometimes you just have to take the leap > >>>and build your wings on the way down... > >>> Gotta Fly... > >>> > >>> > >>>Free Poetry Contest. Win $10,000. Submit your poem @ Poetry.com! > >>> > >>> > >>http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6750922;3807821;l?http://www.poetry.com/cont e > >> > >> > >st/contest.asp?Suite=A59101 > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:54:59 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: 2nd Solo
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Richard, thanks for the information. I am planning on using the flaps from the mark 3 model. The Kolbra and the mark3 use the same wing. John H told me that it is more difficult than just building them and hanging them on the back of the wing. Says his brother Jim could help me there. pp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2nd Solo > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > Paul > > I was sitting here thinking about my Private pilot training after reading > your comments..... The Kolbra has taller gear that would allow a higher > angle of attack on landing than most stock gear Kolbs. With most of us the > only way to do a short field landing is to use our flaps. Not that we are > handicapped very much because of our super flaps but with tall gear and > flaps wow. Which brings me to the question, were you able to get flaps on > the Kolbra? I don't mean flaperons but real flaps like on the MKIIIc? > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: 2nd Solo > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > > > Kolbers, > > Today I logged my second solo! Was fantastic! Conditions near perfect, > slight 8 knot cross. Practiced some soft field landings ect.... On the way > home I was thinking about Kolbs of course and wondering how soft field > landings are performed in them. Being a short time student pilot in a 150 > even thinking about it in the landing phase. Holding that nose in the air > until it drops on it's own and so forth. Also reminding myself why this > procedure it important in the first place. Force landings in soft dirt or > even mud. > > What's the procedure for Kolbs in this situation? > > > > Been some real nice post this week. Headed to the shop to work on > Ms.Dixie... > > > > Later Guys > > > > the student > > > > pp > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:31:56 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Cleaning
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> Kolbers, After discovering that I had misplaced the "B" rib on the spar I had to remove them all and put the "B" rib inboard, I also noticed that there had been a lot of scratching going on in the process. I removed the ribs, polished the insides of the stamped sections that go around the spar, and polished the spar to be smooth of any scratches. I have for years used a product called "TRI-FLOW" with Teflon on aluminum sliding windows. When polished the ribs slide over the spar really smooth with no scratching. The lubricant makes them slide into position with no effort or scratching. Looking at the finished product, I would like the ribs to look as clean as the rest of the parts. What method of cleaning would get the parts that turn dark from handling bright again? I like things to look good even though they will ever be seen. Just a piece of mind thing. I will post some photos in photoshare later. Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp do not archive


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    Time: 05:04:06 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> You got it, Bryan ! ! ! This is the one I was talking about. People who've used it are real enthusiastic about it. Gives the silver coats, etc., just like poly tone, but without the MEK fumes. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> > > Here is a link to waterborne finishing Guys the Dawn Patrol uses it on there > planes. > > > http://www.aircraftfinishing.com/ > Bryan Green Elgin SC > Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS > ----- Original Message ----- > > Larry Bourne wrote: > > > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > > > > >A couple of years ago, there was quite a bit of talk about the water > based > > >paint system for airplanes. Haven't heard anything lately. Anyone know > why > > >?? A couple of Kolb-ers tried it and really liked it. > Lar. > > >


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    Time: 05:22:03 PM PST US
    From: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Cleaning
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> Paul Petty wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net> > > Kolbers, > After discovering that I had misplaced the "B" rib on the spar I had to remove them all and put the "B" rib inboard, I also noticed that there had been a lot of scratching going on in the process. I removed the ribs, polished the insides of the stamped sections that go around the spar, and polished the spar to be smooth of any scratches. I have for years used a product called "TRI-FLOW" with Teflon on aluminum sliding windows. When polished the ribs slide over the spar really smooth with no scratching. The lubricant makes them slide into position with no effort or scratching. Looking at the finished product, I would like the ribs to look as clean as the rest of the parts. What method of cleaning would get the parts that turn dark from handling bright again? I like things to look good even though they will ever be seen. Just a piece of mind thing. I will post some photos in photoshare later. > > Paul Petty > Building Ms. Dixie > Kolbra/912UL/Warp > > do not archive > Paul, Where are you purchasing the Tri-flow? Sounds like a good product to get to know! Wish I had known about it, used WD-40 on mine with OK results. Been fighting with my aluminum storm windows for years now!!! Terry - FireFly #95


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    Time: 06:06:23 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Wright Challange On the History Chanel
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> The Wright challenge is on the History channel right now. One of the featured planes is the HD powered Wright Flyer. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc


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    Time: 06:58:00 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
    Subject: Kolb trips
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com> For all who have not been to this sight, it worth the time, and makes you feel good about KOLBS.... http://webpages.charter.net/bird82/ Richard Harris MK3 N912RH Lewisville, Arkansas DO NOT ARCHIVE >


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    Time: 08:21:30 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Quieter prop, etc.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> Have spent the last three days modifying and testing the Ivoprop. Got some really thick gen-u-wine prop tape and pinked one edge of it, installed it full length on the Ivo. Can't tell that it improves the performance, but it is quieter. Details at http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg14.html Last month someone on the list - can't remember who - said that my web page detailing the relocation of the MKIII flap control mechanism was unclear. They were right, it was, and that page has been redone, hopefully better. It is at http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg3.htm Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)


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    Time: 09:13:20 PM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb trips
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> Thanks for the reminder Richard, I have maintained a link to Kolb flyers and their photos on one of my webpages that can get overlooked very easily. There are a lot of great photos taken from or about a Kolb by these fine folks: Will Uribe, John Hauck, Jim Hefner, Larry Bourne, Erich Weaver, Roger Hankins, Kip Laurie, Frank Reynen, Johann Johannsson, Boyd Young, Scott Olendorf, Ben Ransom, Lajos Jozsa. http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/OtherKolbPhotos.htm John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ do not archive




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