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1. 12:15 AM - UltraCom helmet (Timandjan@aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle)
2. 03:49 AM - Re: Inflight adjustable props ()
3. 07:29 AM - Propellor (Terry)
4. 08:24 AM - Re: repitching prop (Bill Elder)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: repitching prop (Larry Bourne)
6. 08:38 AM - Re: Latex (Don Gherardini)
7. 08:57 AM - Re: repitching prop (John Williamson)
8. 09:23 AM - Re: Inflight adjustable props (Don Gherardini)
9. 09:23 AM - Re: repitching prop (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
10. 10:11 AM - Re: Propellor (Thom Riddle)
11. 10:18 AM - Re: Propellor (Thom Riddle)
12. 10:29 AM - Re: Inflight adjustable props (jam'n)
13. 11:35 AM - drag strut tang (Paul Petty)
14. 12:29 PM - House paint (Dale Sellers)
15. 01:54 PM - Re: drag strut tang (Don Gherardini)
16. 03:09 PM - drag oops (Paul Petty)
17. 03:25 PM - Re: Re:MKIII mods vs. inflight adjustable props (Denny Rowe)
18. 03:43 PM - Re: drag oops (Richard Harris)
19. 04:57 PM - Re: drag strut tang (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
20. 06:41 PM - Re: is it true? (GeoR38@aol.com)
21. 06:52 PM - kolb chat (Denny Rowe)
22. 07:16 PM - Re: Inflight adjustable props (GeoR38@aol.com)
23. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: Propellor (Terry)
24. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: Propellor (Terry)
25. 07:30 PM - Re: Latex (Dennis Souder)
26. 07:41 PM - Re: kolb chat (G. T. Alexander, Jr.)
27. 07:41 PM - Re: Propellor (Dennis Souder)
28. 09:01 PM - Brake systems (Giovanni Day)
29. 09:12 PM - Re: Propellor (Terry)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>)
Kolbers,
I sent out a post weeks back about selling a Ultracom helmet on Ebay for
the widow of a club member who was killled in a crash. Well anyways it did
not sell, I have it available if anyone needs one. Email me off list. Just
trying to help her het all the funds she can.
timandjan@aol.com
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight adjustable props |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <JJP45@comcast.net>
Howard ,
Your comment that , " That's the same guy " inferrs that he doesn't know
what he's talking about.
If so , we all have issues with Ultralight Flying printing mis -
information . I would think they
would only print articles that have some MERIT , from credible knowledgeable
people .
I tend to to hear / read and retain only that , that interest me .The
fact that I've been shifting
my FS II in - air , and enjoying the suttle changes , makes me believe in
Mr. Zerkle's article .
He certainly is more experianced than I , but who knows we may someday owe
you an appology.
Until then I'll keep putting hours on the clock with my self twisting blades
.
The point of this entire discussion was to deffer to the MOST
knowledgeable person , rather
than make a statment of fact out of frustration .
flying for fun
JJP
FS II
503 DCDI ( 68" Ivo IFA )
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From: <HShack@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Inflight adjustable props
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2003 7:20:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JJP45@comcast.net writes:
> To my own amazment I've located the article in question : It's in the
> July 2003 issue , Ultralight
> Flying Magazine , on page 29 ,by Roger Zerkle , he's an FAA airframe and
> powerplant mechanic with more than 30 years experience, a private pilot
who
> builds ultralights and other aircraft , and an aircraft maintenance
> instructor for an area college for 15 years . Roger owns and manages ZDE ,
a
> regional service center and distributor for 2 Stoke International and a
> Rotax repair station .
> That's the same guy.
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
All,
Has anyone had any experience with the Prince P-tip propellor? It
seems like an interesting idea!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: repitching prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Elder" <billelder@denver.net>
Aaron - go to the Warp Drive web site. Warp provides instructions and
torque values. Put the protractor within an inch of the end of the blade.
Bill in Colorado
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From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: repitching prop
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> I want to repitch my warp-drive prop on my Mk3 and want the rundown on
doing it. I bought a warp-drive protractor/level for it but I'm not sure the
following:
>
> - how far onto the blade to clamp the level
> - how to read the level... (bit embarrassing, but there are inner and
outer #s that look to be on different scales)
> - what inch/# to re-torque prop bolts when I am done.
>
> any other dos and don'ts in regards to pitching the blades would be
greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Aaron
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: repitching prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'm missing some of my Warp Drive paperwork, but I did make a note that the
torque is 200 in/lb, (14 ft/lb). The protractor should be clamped to the
blade as close to the tip as possible. I don't really see where it would
matter much if it was in a couple of inches, as long as all blades are at
exactly the same pitch. Use the same scale on each blade. If it said to
pitch your prop to a specific degree, then everything would be a lot more
critical, but we aren't doing that. You might want to take a look on my
website, under Building Vamoose / Prop Pitching w/ Laser.
Have fun, and good luck. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
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age -----
From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: repitching prop
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> I want to repitch my warp-drive prop on my Mk3 and want the rundown on
doing it. I bought a warp-drive protractor/level for it but I'm not sure the
following:
>
> - how far onto the blade to clamp the level
> - how to read the level... (bit embarrassing, but there are inner and
outer #s that look to be on different scales)
> - what inch/# to re-torque prop bolts when I am done.
>
> any other dos and don'ts in regards to pitching the blades would be
greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Aaron
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Gang,
I'm not really sure about the latex paint, however...I will assume that like
all other products, there is cheap stuff of low quality and good stuff that
cost more.
I Know of only one airplane I have seen that was painted with
latex..(probably seen more and didnt know).
It is a nice N-3 pup flown around here by an elderly old gent. I have always
admired the airplane, other than it's lack of power with the 1/2 VW he has
on it. Anyway he has a standard yellow cub type paint job on it...and it is
checked very badly..reminds you of an auto job with way to thick of paint
that is just too brittle and gets cracked/checked...still shines pretty good
tho. I think he told me this summer its 5 years old..I dont know how long it
has been checked, but he told me he wished he had used something else now.
Of course...as the old saying goes..
The joy of a low price expires long before the bitterness of poor quality.
It makes me wonder where he bought his paint, and was it the best they had,
or the cheapest?
I have some Sherman Williams latex on a fence out here and it still looks
good after 10 years....and I have some lesser quality no-name on the Garage
door that is bad after 2 years...which goes to show just cause I know the
rule dont mean I'm smart enough to follow it all the time.!
I think the best characteristic of Poly-Tone is its repair-ablity...
The Worst characteristic is not its cost to me..but the vapors of the
thinner and the reducers and such, But it is not near as bad as
PolyUrethanes.
Looks to me like the worst Characteristic of that APS stuff is its
price...whew 275 bucks a gallon! Everything else sounds too good to be
true. Does that make it the best tho?.hmmm... beats me...
If you want the prettiest dang paint-job you can get...then use Auto-paint
in a color-coat/clear coat system...
After considering all these things already prior to painting my airplane...I
decided to go with Poly-Tone...its in the middle of the price range..and as
hard as I am on paint-jobs I decided its repairability was most important
to me.
I am sure glad too because before I got my bird out of the shop I had
already had a BIG mishap...the end of which resulted in a 10 inch gash in
the wing covering where the ivo prop blade went thru it! ARGHHH... Then
later on in the hangar, with maybe 12 hours on my bird... a 4 inch rip in
the side of the fuselage adjacent the fuel tank...ARGHHH!.... but I had em
both fixed in a hour each time...and you must really look close to see now
where they are. I know how to repair many different kind of paint jobs...but
none I can think of come close to the ease of the Poly-Tone types.
So your deciding factors are...what do you want out of your airplane?
Show-plane briliance...I cant remember too many grand-champs latey that
didnt have car paint on em!
Low initial investment. I believe I would say that having a latex painted
airplane would beat not having an airplane at all! Lets face it ..we all
have a budget we have to deal with.
You want to fly the heck out of you bird and not have it grounded for a week
or 2 in the best flying seasons while you repair it?
And I can see reasoning in a fella who will not mind needing to recover in a
shorter time if the initial investment is low and he brings his bird in to
the shop every winter to tinker with it and modify it and such anyway. This
fella might consider the risk of a out-of the ordinary paint job worth the
cost savings.
To each his own according to his needs and wants.
There is generally more than ONE right way to do about everything.
If I was building a big Kolb with a big Engine...I might just decide to skin
the whole thing in Alclad and forget the paint altogether!
Slow day at the office men, so you guys get to put up with me! IM gonna go
see if there's any donuts left!
Happy Holidays
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Don Gherardini
Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | Re: repitching prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Aaron,
The best way to learn the Warp Prop protractor is to get the instructions
from them. Very nice folks at 1-800-833-9357.
Just in case you need the info right now, I am sending a copy of the
instructions off list.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight adjustable props |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
to the gang..
While its true that you dont have to be a certified expert to write an
article for a trade magazine...Its usually pretty easy for an expierienced
fella to see thru a article when it is erroneous, however many of the people
are reading an article because they DONT have expierience in that particular
subject, and are attempting to learn something.
Being in the engine biz fer an awful long time...I have known Mr. Zerkle
for...hmmm...20 years next summer I think.
in addition to his above mentioned credentials...here are some more of his
expieriences that may or may not be known to all.
USN aboard CV10....USS Yorktown, (The Fighting lady herself.) Aircraft
mechanic./later crew cheif on S-2.(late 60's)
Owner of a Kawasaki motorcycle Dealership (early an mid 70's) (remember them
3 cyl 2 strokes?)
FAA...Designated Airworthyness Inspector (DAI)
OF course the above mentioned A&P at FBO Olney/Noble airport, A&P program
instructor and Vincennes University, and current rotax repair station and
2SI distributor.
Also..you might remember that champion Fisher Celebrity Mike Fisher had
about..hmm 10 years ago?...Mr.Zerkle Built it top to bottom for Mike in his
shop in Flatrock, Illinois.
I am not posting this in an effort to support Mr. Zerkle's article on
IN-flight adjustables, which of course I read. But only to help those who
dont know him to understand he is not zactly green in the engine biz.
I read few articles in avaition mag's written where I recognize an
individuals expertise in the internal combustion engine.
In Mr. Zerkles articles I see an understanding second to very few.
Heck men..sometimes I think he might know almost as much as me about
engines!..(hehehe...smile will ya, I found the donuts!)
Happy Holidays
Don Gherardini
Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | Re: repitching prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
"Aaron Hollingsworth" asked:
- how far onto the blade to clamp the level
- how to read the level... (bit embarrassing, but there are inner and outer
#s
that look to be on different scales)
- what inch/# to re-torque prop bolts when I am done.
Thanks all, Aaron
==================
Aaron -
The Warp-Drive prop protractor is the best/easiest prop adjustment tool on
the market - you made a good choice!
Measure your blade angle at the tip.
Make sure the blade you are adjusting is horizontal.
Be sure to first measure what angle off-vertical your engine sits at, and
subtract that number of degrees when setting your prop angle.
My Powerfin prop specifies tightening each 8mm prop bolt to 175 inch-pounds.
Your Warp may have a different value.
You'll have best results if you tighten the bolts a little at a time,
alternating between bolts, and work your way up to the final torque setting
in steps.
Good luck -
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, Verner-1400 in
Cedar Crest, NM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Here is Prince's website address.
http://www.tntlandinggear.com/store/shop/prince_aircraft.htm
Thom Riddle
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Ignore my earlier post. That was a re-seller.
Try the following:
Lonnie Prince at Prince Aircraft Co. 419-877-5557, FAX 419-877-5564 - propellers@aol.com
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight adjustable props |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jam'n" <jghunter@nol.net>
about> engines!..(hehehe...smile will ya, I found the donuts!)
donuts?
...donuts???
more donuts?
:)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Reading over the instructions and looking at the photos in preparation for the
"Big Step" of drilling the holes in the ribs. One photo shows the drag strut tang
riveted into place. Question is, how does one cover this part of the wing?
Could I wait until after covering to install the tang. Would look better I think.
pp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
KOLBERS,
I had so many requests for a picture of my ultrastar finished with house paint,
that I posted one on photoshare.
Dale Sellers
Georgia
dsel1@bellsouth.net
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| Subject: | Re: drag strut tang |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Paul,
The drag strut is the one that runs from the trailing edge of the inboard
steel rib (fits in a socket there) to the alum bracket/saddle that goes
around the main spar tube around mid-point. This should be installed to keep
the wing square after the ribs are all slid onto the main spar and correctly
located.
I believe on your Kolbra wing, there is an extra steel support that will
attach somewhere along this strut to the main spar in a fore an aft
direction to help stiffen the drag strut. None of this interferes with
covering.
The Lift strut is the one that goes from the bracket above the landing gear
socket to the alum saddle on the main spar.and the lift strut tangs prutrude
thru the covering.(My FireFly has 2 on each wing, for the double lift
struts. I believe the Kolbra should have 1 each. (Kolbras do have single
lift struts dont they?)
I really dont see how you could attach that tang after you cover the
wing....lota rivets...angle of the rivet gun and such....
It is really not a hard thing to cover.
You will drap the covering over the underside of the wing...as it is upside
down on your bench/horses..
after arranging the fabric accordingly..I glued down the edges and even
shrunk the fabric just a tad..so the tangs were really pushing on the
fabric...then simply took a blade and made slits in the fabric and fished
the tang thru...
You will surround the slit around the tangs with extra fabric tapes, just as
you do with any protrusions thru a covering, to re-inforce this area.
Dont beconcerned if you get a bigger hole than you think it oughtta be...and
as the fabric is tightened up the rest of the way..if you get a wrinkle from
the slit not being aligned just right around the tang...just cut the hole so
the wrinkles are gone..and the fabric is not pulling against the tang. AS
you cut the reinforcing patchs to surround this tang, it is gonna cover up
the hole and then is when you will get a good close fit around the tang.
Dont worry about it..it really is easy...
Don Gherardini
Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
OOOOps I meant lift strut tang. Thanks Don. What about the bolt and nut? My single
tang only has four rivets in it. They are in a straight line. Looks like the
big 1/2" bolt does most of the work at hand. Just seamed like it would look
cleaner installed after the covering. That's what this list is all about right?
Ask and learn.
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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| Subject: | Re:MKIII mods vs. inflight adjustable props |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Native American Artist" <cartoonface2003@yahoo.com>
>
> I really liked these idea's in particular:
>
> Changed to cut down windshield, wing center section was in free air,
top speed went to 88, climb improved.
> covered the wing with v/g's.
>
> I would think most MKIII owners who had the time and money would at least
add VG's.
Not me Marty,mines plenty slow enough for me. :-)
But this is America, and its cool to see how we all can do our own thing!
>
> However...my question is, what impact does these configurations have on
getting an N numbered aircraft?
> Are you deviating from the design the N number was assigned to? Do you
need an STC ?
As far as I know these small changes have no effect on registration at all,
they really are not major changes and also not structural.
>
> I'm obviously rusty with FAR's but if you were experimental you could
probably get away with just about anything, but then again, where most
ultralights fly doesn't seem to tickle a "ramp inspection"....?
> I'm in need of educating here guys N gals.
>
> I'd like to think a MKIII Xtra with those mods would be sweet.
The Mk-3 Xtra has already been cleaned up quite a bit, but someone could
always try to improve it.
Denny Rowe,
Mk-3, PA
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> Marty
> http://cartoonface.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Harris" <rharris@magnolia-net.com>
Paul, I really don't think you could install the tang after covering. You
could not get to the top of the wing spar to put that big bolt in. The only
thing out the bottom is the nut and the bent part of the tang, like Don said
it's easy to cover and looks fine.
Sure sounds like your are having fun building. I wish I could had access to
this list when I was building my MK3. No one around here has ever heard of
a Kolb and I am the only airplane at Lewisville international airport.
c-ya
Richard Harris
MK3 N912RH
Lewisville, Arkansas
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: drag oops
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> OOOOps I meant lift strut tang. Thanks Don. What about the bolt and nut?
My single tang only has four rivets in it. They are in a straight line.
Looks like the big 1/2" bolt does most of the work at hand. Just seamed like
it would look cleaner installed after the covering. That's what this list is
all about right? Ask and learn.
>
> Paul Petty
> Building Ms. Dixie
> Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: drag strut tang |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
If you put the bolt in before you cover but not the lift strut tang you will
you need to tighten the bolt on the tang and that would require that you
hold the top of the bolt which would be tough without some access. An access
port would look worse than working around the tang. It is also a good idea
to get that bolt in and tight while you are working in that area. There was
a case were someone built a Kolb with only the rivets holding the tang to
the wing. On the first flight (I think or may be shortly after) the tang
separated from the wing in the air. Don't make that mistake!
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: drag strut tang
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Reading over the instructions and looking at the photos in preparation for
the "Big Step" of drilling the holes in the ribs. One photo shows the drag
strut tang riveted into place. Question is, how does one cover this part of
the wing? Could I wait until after covering to install the tang. Would look
better I think.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 12/10/2003 9:40:59 AM Central Standard Time,
nazz57@yahoo.com writes:
> Interesting article on latex paint.
> http://www.lightminiatureaircraft.com/generic34.html
>
> if this is true then i would say i've been
> vindicated. i've long professed that Latex paint would
> work on Stits covering ...... tim (firefly)
> do not archive
>
I have Coronado Urethane Latex paint on my Firestar for 5 years now....was
pretty good..looks like a psychodelic flower boasting weird red, pale yellow,
and bright blue.
George Randolph
Firestar driver from the Villages
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Why do I get the Para chat when I click on the chat link at the bottom of these
posts?
My old computer seemed to get right on the Kolb chat, but this new one always winds
up in the para chat.
Can someone help this dummy out?
Denny "not computer savy" Rowe
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:50:22 AM Central Standard Time,
JJP45@comcast.net writes:
> He certainly is more experianced than I , but who knows we may someday owe
> you an appology.
> Until then I'll keep putting hours on the clock with my self twisting blades
> .
> The point of this entire discussion was to deffer to the MOST
> knowledgeable person , rather
> than make a statment of fact out of frustration
>
> This Kolb world is not professional versus amateur, it is a world of
> opinions, and experiences, which we share and enjoy. No one on this list is treated
> as an expert or professional, only as a friend who can help, whether
> frustrated or not.
> George Randolph
> Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Thom Riddle wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
>
> Ignore my earlier post. That was a re-seller.
>
> Try the following:
> Lonnie Prince at Prince Aircraft Co. 419-877-5557, FAX 419-877-5564 - propellers@aol.com
>
> Thom in Buffalo
> do not archive
>
Thanks Tom! Do you have any experience with this prop or know anyone who has?
Terry - FireFly #95
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Thom Riddle wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
>
> Ignore my earlier post. That was a re-seller.
>
> Try the following:
> Lonnie Prince at Prince Aircraft Co. 419-877-5557, FAX 419-877-5564 - propellers@aol.com
>
> Thom in Buffalo
> do not archive
>
Sorry for misspelling your name! Oooops!
Terry
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
I knew some folks who used Blue River's (I think thats what it was called)
water based covering system. They were very happy with how it applied and
how it looked with finished; I saw the finished N3 Pup and it looked great.
But when the time came to fix a damaged wing, they found it near impossible
to do a decent fabric patch and at that point were pretty unhappy campers.
Maybe that is not a problem any more; but it would be a good question to
inquire about.
Dennis
>
> I think the best characteristic of Poly-Tone is its repair-ablity...
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Denny:
Instructions sent directly.
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
Hi Terry,
Prince makes a beautiful propeller! We had one on the Laser it looked very
nice with spinner ... and was the fastest prop of every one we tried. If
you had a Laser that needed a prop I would probably say it would be a toss
up between a Prince and Warp (the Warp would give a bit less top end, but
the acceleration and climb would be significantly better than the Prince.
But my preferene for the FF is still the Ivo. I am fixing a damaged FF
right now and I already have a new Ivo ready to install.
Look around and ask lots of questions - lots out there to learn about props.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Propellor
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
>
> All,
>
> Has anyone had any experience with the Prince P-tip propellor? It
> seems like an interesting idea!
>
> Terry - FireFly #95
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gday@e-dots4u.com>
What brake system is preferred for the MKIII classic.
Giovanni
MKIII as soon as the quicksilver is gone.
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Dennis Souder wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Prince makes a beautiful propeller! We had one on the Laser it looked very
> nice with spinner ... and was the fastest prop of every one we tried. If
> you had a Laser that needed a prop I would probably say it would be a toss
> up between a Prince and Warp (the Warp would give a bit less top end, but
> the acceleration and climb would be significantly better than the Prince.
> But my preferene for the FF is still the Ivo. I am fixing a damaged FF
> right now and I already have a new Ivo ready to install.
>
> Look around and ask lots of questions - lots out there to learn about props.
>
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
> To: "kolb-list" <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Propellor
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Has anyone had any experience with the Prince P-tip propellor? It
> > seems like an interesting idea!
> >
> > Terry - FireFly #95
> >
> >
>
Dennis,
Thanks for the info. I'm really inquiring for a friend that is considering it
for a SlingShot.
I am doing a little experimenting on my wood prop, taking a note from the RC
guys with the new blades they are using. Looking for quieter and more efficient
performance, mostly quieter. Waiting for a break in the weather to see how I
made out and also till I get back from the 100 yr. celebration at First Flight
the next couple of days. Will then let you know how I made out. I might be in
the market for a new prop depending on how it does. Hopefully not!!!!!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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