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1. 03:35 AM - Re: Prince p-tip prop (Kirk Smith)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: Prince p-tip prop (Bob Bean)
3. 08:16 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 12/12/03 (William George)
4. 08:50 AM - Re: Prince p-tip prop (Ben Ransom)
5. 09:24 AM - Re: Propellor (Ben Ransom)
6. 10:17 AM - 2 Honda engines on Ebay (Eugene Zimmerman)
7. 10:22 AM - Re: Propellor (jerb)
8. 11:26 AM - Nose art? (Jo and Larry)
9. 01:01 PM - Re: Nose art? (Dale Sellers)
10. 01:07 PM - Re: Nose art? (Don Gherardini)
11. 01:30 PM - Re: Propellor (Don Gherardini)
12. 02:20 PM - Solo X-Country (Aaron Hollingsworth)
13. 03:04 PM - Re: 2 Honda engines on Ebay (jerb)
14. 03:10 PM - Re: Propellor (jerb)
15. 03:18 PM - Re: Propellor (Denny Rowe)
16. 03:52 PM - Re: Solo X-Country (Denny Rowe)
17. 05:23 PM - Re: Solo X-Country (Bob Bean)
18. 05:27 PM - Re: Propellor (Don Gherardini)
19. 06:35 PM - Best Propeller (Bill Vincent)
20. 07:45 PM - Re: Best Propeller (possums)
21. 08:04 PM - Re: Nose art? (Larry Bourne)
22. 08:04 PM - Re: Propellor (Denny Rowe)
23. 08:13 PM - Re: Best Propeller (Robert Laird)
24. 10:36 PM - Re: Propellor (Don Gherardini)
25. 11:41 PM - Re: Propellor - Laser (jerb)
26. 11:47 PM - Re: Propellor (jerb)
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| Subject: | Re: Prince p-tip prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
" Most props will cone unless it is an over designed propeller. "
What's coning? Thanks!!! Kirk
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Prince p-tip prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Kirk, just the normal flexing of the blade due to thrust pressure...
kept partly in check by centrifugal force. -BB
Kirk Smith wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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>" Most props will cone unless it is an over designed propeller. "
>
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>What's coning? Thanks!!! Kirk
>
>Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 12/12/03 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
On Dec 12, 2003, at 9:56 PM, Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> But then someone surprised me by
> saying that know for sure that the Warp cones forward just as the
> Prince. I always thought the Warps were too stiff but the user said
> he's seen it, and it too is about 4" flex (this on a 150hp engine and
> matched Warp prop).
Beware forward flex on pusher configurations. Your 4 inch clearance
from flap rods could turn to zero.
do not archive
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
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| Subject: | Re: Prince p-tip prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
Kirk,
A totally rigid prop would spin making a shape of a flat disk. But to
the extent that the prop is not rigid, the blades will bend slightly in
direction opposite to the force (thrust) they produce. This bend is
the change of the disk into a very shallow cone shape.
I'm still skeptical of the idea that these stiff Warps cone enf to
explain the variable pitch phenomenon, at least on the lower power
engines. But I'm also skeptical of the idea that stalling at the tips
is happening much because that means an effectively smaller prop
diameter, and it is the big prop diameter (high aspect ratio) that is
so generally useful in producing high lift (think gliders). I'm
starting to think neither coning or tip stalling is responsible for the
Warp's performance on small engines, and it is simply that they are a
great, low drag, very effective airfoil.
--- Kirk Smith <snuffy@usol.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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> " Most props will cone unless it is an over designed propeller. "
>
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> What's coning? Thanks!!! Kirk
>
> Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ben Ransom <bwr000@yahoo.com>
--- jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Ben,
> Could you elaborate more regarding your comment below about the added
> risk
> of wood props as a pusher - the only disadvantages I see of wood
> props
<snip>
Hi Jerb,
I'm referring to the better protection from chipping or splintering of
a composite prop compared to wood. A tractor has some possibilty of
picking up a pebble, but a pusher has the added possibilty of whacking
anything coming off the airplane in front of it. Especially open
cockpit pushers, the pilot ought to make darn sure everything in his
cockpit and pockets are going to stay put during the flight. Also,
pushers have the risk of pebbles coming up from the tires getting into
the prop. This esp true if the prop is close to the ground as in the
Ultrastar. I think these are manageable risk areas, but they are added
factors, and a more bullet proof prop would be good insurance IMO.
>
> Could you comment more as a performance comparison between the IVO
> (number
> of blade and length) and the Powerfin (type of blades, number, and
> length).
> jerb
I don't know enf to comment specifically. Generally tho, thrust and
efficiency comes from greater prop diameter (think about moving a small
disk or column of air with a smaller diameter 3 blade, compared to
moving a bigger column of air with a larger 2 blade). It is also true
that a prop being extremely flexible, or flexible in the "wrong
directions" allows for it to dump its load instead of making thrust. I
think (guessing), that the IVO excels in its smoothness and is weak in
thrust -- compared to other props -- because it is a relatively
flexible plastic. The Powerfin is foam core, composite shell if I
recall, and is pretty good at absorbing vibration (like wood) without
the expense of high flex and changing its aerodynamic qualities. Warps
are solid composite --heavier, near bullet-proof, and very rigid.
-Ben
> snip..
> >Wood (Culver or Tennessee?): almost as good as the Warp in
> >performance, but the added risk of wood props as a pusher.
> snip...
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| Subject: | 2 Honda engines on Ebay |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Here is a four stroke for you to experiment with.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6755&item=2448438777
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Richard,
Thanks for clearing that up. From a readers perspective it gave the view
that there was a problem with the IVO props. Having IVO props on my planes
I'm very happy to hear that wasn't the case.
jerb
do not archive
At 12:20 AM 12/13/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
>The guy was a klutz. He crashed every U/L he ever owned.
>And staggered away. (Many potential war stories there)
>It had nothing to do with it being an Ivo, but everything to do
>with the human condition. It was supposed to be amusing... sorry...
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>do not archive
>
>At 10:26 PM 12/12/03 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> >
> >Richard,
> >Not sure what your message is here regarding the original prop and
> >replacement you supplied him. During the initial prop balancing process if
> >the guy loosened the prop bolts at the hub, is it possible he might have
> >some how affected the amount of pitch of the blades - may explain the poor
> >take off performance. As for the one you furnished, did they do the same
> >thing and attempt to balance it and repeat the same error? Doesn't sound
> >like a problem with the props themselves but rather an installation
> >problem. There are a lot of IVO's around and haven't seen any problem with
> >the prop themselves other than those that have suffered some prior damage.
> >jerb
> >
> >
> >At 08:48 PM 12/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> > >
> > >Not very Kolb related, but since it looks like a slow night on the list...
> > >
> > >A few years ago a company from Knoxville came to Mountain City Airport
> to a
> > >fly-in, offering to balance props for free to anybody that wanted it, just
> > >to attract business. One of our locals had a powered parachute with a
> three
> > >blade Ivo on it, and he had all kinds of vibration. (Probably had
> something
> > >to do with him modifying the Ivo with a saber saw, but who knows?) They
> > >tested it, added some weights to one side of the hub under the bolt heads,
> > >and he happily took it home.
> > >
> > >When the wind died down that evening, he attempted a take off but the
> chute
> > >didn't inflate properly, he ran it over a bank off the end of his runway,
> > >cart wheeled the whole mess end over end a time or two, and destroyed the
> > >chute, the prop guard cage, the motor mounts, and the prop. He crawled
> from
> > >the wreckage a bit the worse for wear, but managed to stagger back to the
> > >house, concocting a story along the way to explain his wounds to his wife
> > >in a way that did not involve aviation.
> > >
> > >But there was a happy ending to the story: I had a three blade Ivo
> that was
> > >too small for my 532, and I sold it to him. It lasted about 6 months, and
> > >then it met the same fate.
> > >
> > >Richard Pike
> > >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > >
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >At 12:25 AM 12/13/03 +0000, you wrote:
> >
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
We are about ready to paint our Firestar II and we are looking for some
nose art and stripes, decals preferred. Anyone have info on where to find?
Thanks,
Larry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Jo and Larry,
Try www.decalzone.com
Dale Sellers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Nose art?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
>
>
> We are about ready to paint our Firestar II and we are looking for some
> nose art and stripes, decals preferred. Anyone have info on where to find?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Larry,
I got my stars and lettering from Decalzone.com...they have tons a stuff in
good quality vinyl.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Dennis,
What is this Laser you have mentioned?
Kitplane? UL?..EXP?.
Is there a website somewhere where I can see a pic of one?
Just curious
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
I did my solo X-Country today in my Mk3. What fun. It is amazing how easy it is
to 2nd guess yourself with only maps and no GPS. I know what santa needs to bring
me now. I wanted to run some speeds and rpms by the group to see how they
compare:
solo ~215lbs. I cruised my first leg at 63-65mph indicated at about 5100rpm. I
thought the lower rpm would save some fuel even though it would take longer to
get there. I was wrong. First and second leg were both right over 50 miles (minimal
wind). The second leg I cruised at 5800rpm showing 85mph indicated. I burned
less gas and arrived about 15 minutes faster. I did notice at about 88-90
(slight dive at 5800rpm) indicated my wing tips would shutter a little, getting
very noticeable over 90. I know the VNE is 100, but considering the shutter
I don't think I would want to go over 90.
Anyway... It was a beautiful Colorado morning. Meadowlake to Frontrage to Limon
to Colorado Springs East back to Meadowlake for a total of 152 miles. I have
done some dual X-Country in a piper archer2.. cruising at about 110Kts. It sure
was more rewarding to cruise around slower and lower in my mk3... I have a new
appreciation for those kolbers that fly around the country. It must be a hell
of a thrill to tour in a kolb.
Regards,
Aaron
Mk3 - 618
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| Subject: | Re: 2 Honda engines on Ebay |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Represented as new but sure didn't look new to me. Apparently this guy is
a wheeler dealer judging by his other auctions.
jerb
At 01:17 PM 12/13/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
><eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
>
>
>Here is a four stroke for you to experiment with.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6755&item=2448438777
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
I surprised so many of the list members haven't learned the power of the
Google.com search engine.
Go the google.com and put in what your searing for - it will provide
hits - sometimes it works and some times it doesn't.
Here's a link for the Laser:
http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/selecting/kits/Kolb%20Laser.html
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At 03:35 PM 12/13/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
>Dennis,
>What is this Laser you have mentioned?
>Kitplane? UL?..EXP?.
>
>Is there a website somewhere where I can see a pic of one?
>
>Just curious
>
>
>Don Gherardini
>FireFly 098
>http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Dennis,
> What is this Laser you have mentioned?
> Kitplane? UL?..EXP?.
>
> Is there a website somewhere where I can see a pic of one?
>
> Just curious
>
>
> Don Gherardini
> FireFly 098
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
Don,
The Laser is a low wing side by side Kolb design from the early 90s that did
not make it to production.
Kind of like a fabric covered Sonex. Nice and speedy and good looking too.
I'll let the Dennis you were asking fill in other details. :-)
Denny Rowe
Mk-3, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Solo X-Country |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Solo X-Country
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> I did my solo X-Country today in my Mk3. What fun. It is amazing how easy
it is to 2nd guess yourself with only maps and no GPS. I know what santa
needs to bring me now. I wanted to run some speeds and rpms by the group to
see how they compare:
>
> solo ~215lbs. I cruised my first leg at 63-65mph indicated at about
5100rpm. I thought the lower rpm would save some fuel even though it would
take longer to get there. I was wrong. First and second leg were both right
over 50 miles (minimal wind). The second leg I cruised at 5800rpm showing
85mph indicated. I burned less gas and arrived about 15 minutes faster. I
did notice at about 88-90 (slight dive at 5800rpm) indicated my wing tips
would shutter a little, getting very noticeable over 90. I know the VNE is
100, but considering the shutter I don't think I would want to go over 90.
>
> Anyway... It was a beautiful
Aaron
I am surprised the 618 uses as much gas at 5100 as it does at 5800, are you
sure it wasn't the wind?
My 690L burns less than 3.3 gph at 5100, but seems like it gets up around
4.7gph at 5800.
These two engines are pretty different so I suppose I'm comparing apples and
oranges.
Congrats on the cross country, I am stuck at 36.3 hrs due to our weather. I
can't wait to get out and go somewhere in this baby.
Sincerely,
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Solo X-Country |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Aaron Hollingsworth wrote:
>I did notice at about 88-90 (slight dive at 5800rpm) indicated my wing tips would
shutter a little, getting very noticeable over 90. I know the VNE is 100,
but considering the shutter I don't think I would want to go over 90.
>
>
>Aaron, do you have aileron counterbalances? -BB do not arhive
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Jerry B
Ahhh that Kolb..ok Now I know..I didnt remember the name was
Laser..Shoulda known Dennis would wind up with one!
I remember when a few months back, there was an Adv on the Prototype..and
another or 2 all from the same fella. That was my first exposure to this
airplane.Thanks pard!
BTW..I have Google search site as my default page in explorer..thats how
much I use it! When I got to thinking about what a Laser was, I typed in
Laser Aircraft. ..got nuttin....I just didnt remember it was a Kolb!
So Dennis...Do you have that 1st one?...or did you build yourself
another?...what kind of power?
It is Snowing like heck here and I bet alot of fellas would like to hear
all about the Kolb Laser's performance...handling..construction....
Sit down here Dennis and tell me about it will ya!
Thanks
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
My 2 cents worth:
This summer I visited the Rotax tent in Oshkosh and I asked the 3
gentlemen working there what was the best propeller I could buy for a
503 Rotax engine...all 3 of them looked at me and said "the French
Arplast is by far the best propellor for this engine". I did not
purchase the French Arplast because the price was out of my league..but
something to consider in the future.
P.S. I have 320 hours on my IVO Prop and it performs very well.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Best Propeller |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 09:33 PM 12/13/2003, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
>
>My 2 cents worth:
>This summer I visited the Rotax tent in Oshkosh and I asked the 3
>gentlemen working there what was the best propeller I could buy for a
>503 Rotax engine...all 3 of them looked at me and said "the French
>Arplast is by far the best propellor for this engine". I did not
>purchase the French Arplast because the price was out of my league..but
>something to consider in the future.
I've heard them run and they're pretty amazing - as far as noise is
concerned. Don't know about performance, but I agree with you on the price.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
You can also try www.speedysigns.com. They treated me fairly with mine, and
did some customizing, as well. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nose art?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>
> Jo and Larry,
>
> Try www.decalzone.com
>
> Dale Sellers
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Nose art?
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
> >
> >
> > We are about ready to paint our Firestar II and we are looking for some
> > nose art and stripes, decals preferred. Anyone have info on where to
find?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Larry
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
,
> Here is my question. I am happy with the Ivo on our MkII. But I own a
> Rans S6ES which uses a left hand prop. I understand that Ivo's left hand
> blades are different than the right hand blades. Do you or anyone else
> on the list have any experience with left hand Ivo's?
>
Earl Zimmerman
Earl,
I have used two and three blade IVOs on my 503 Powered Loehle "Tractor
configuration" and they performed really well.
A friend had a belt drive on his Loehle so he had a right hand prop and the
blades looked the same as mine.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Best Propeller |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 09:45 PM 12/13/2003, you wrote:
>I've heard them run and they're pretty amazing - as far as noise is
>concerned. Don't know about performance, but I agree with you on the price.
I had a trike once, and it had a 503 with the Arplast prop... I could fly
the thing without ear protection, it was so quiet, and it's performance was
better than the Warp, Tennessee and Ivo I've had since. A lot of money,
but worth every penny.
-- R
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Well men...I have 2 IVOS...a 3blade right..and a 3 blade left...I thought
they were both 60 inchs..
They are not however. one measures 61 3/4 (the left) And I have never
measured the right hand, although it was presented as a 60 when I bought it
new.
I had the left on a 2,5 belt drive on my fly...and when I lost one a them
polychain belts at 32 hours...I switched it to a 2.65 gearbox and a right
hand Ivo.
So I really cant make any good comparisons on how they preform...being at 2
different ratios. BUT...I can tell you that the right hand prop does look
different than the left. In the wide part of the airfoil..there is more
there than on the left hand prop. It is wider I believe ..although I have
never measured the right hand prop...but it looks wider and looks like there
is more pitch in that spot from eyeballin it.
I also have had a 3 blade 60 inch Sport prop on it...real pretty ...that
black carbon fiber. All I really can say is it was a tad harder for the
Cuyuna to turn. even being lighter than the ivos...the rpms didnt come up as
quick...but I wont say any more because I just didnt have it on there long
enough to give it a good workout. I thought I had it pitched about the same,
as I measured the ivo with a protractor and set the sport accordingly...then
checked the rpms and they were about right. But as I said..didnt run it long
enough to really get to know it.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor - Laser |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Ya Don,
There was a post some time ago for three Lasers for sale. I sent an email
to Dennis asking if he knew that status of those "parts". Haven't gotten
anything back. The New Kolb Aircraft might have been the out fit that sold
them off rather than the old Kolb company. With possibility of Sport
category, they just might make a nice plane that don't take a lot of
storage space.
jerb
At 07:33 PM 12/13/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
>Jerry B
>Ahhh that Kolb..ok Now I know..I didnt remember the name was
>Laser..Shoulda known Dennis would wind up with one!
>I remember when a few months back, there was an Adv on the Prototype..and
>another or 2 all from the same fella. That was my first exposure to this
>airplane.Thanks pard!
>
>BTW..I have Google search site as my default page in explorer..thats how
>much I use it! When I got to thinking about what a Laser was, I typed in
>Laser Aircraft. ..got nuttin....I just didnt remember it was a Kolb!
>
>So Dennis...Do you have that 1st one?...or did you build yourself
>another?...what kind of power?
> It is Snowing like heck here and I bet alot of fellas would like to hear
>all about the Kolb Laser's performance...handling..construction....
>Sit down here Dennis and tell me about it will ya!
>
>Thanks
>
>Don Gherardini
>FireFly 098
>http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Would not the IVO blades have to be reversed in the hub to get the proper
side of the blades facing forward and the hub to mount to the gear box in
the correct orientation - can that be done due to the blade pitch torsion
rods mating to the hub?
jerb
At 11:04 PM 12/13/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>
>,
> > Here is my question. I am happy with the Ivo on our MkII. But I own a
> > Rans S6ES which uses a left hand prop. I understand that Ivo's left hand
> > blades are different than the right hand blades. Do you or anyone else
> > on the list have any experience with left hand Ivo's?
> >
> Earl Zimmerman
>
>
>Earl,
>I have used two and three blade IVOs on my 503 Powered Loehle "Tractor
>configuration" and they performed really well.
>A friend had a belt drive on his Loehle so he had a right hand prop and the
>blades looked the same as mine.
>Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
>
>
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