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1. 05:42 AM - Re:Skis? (Thom Riddle)
2. 06:29 AM - Q&A (Paul Petty)
3. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: FireFly Video thumbs (Gary Thacker)
4. 07:35 AM - Carb-Mods (Mike Pierzina)
5. 07:38 AM - Fw: Re: FireFly Video (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: Skis? (Scott Trask)
7. 08:06 AM - New Prop (John Hauck)
8. 08:19 AM - Re: Carb-Mods (John Hauck)
9. 08:41 AM - Prop Tach (John Hauck)
10. 10:24 AM - Re: New Prop (Edward Chmielewski)
11. 10:27 AM - Re: Carb-Mods (Richard Pike)
12. 10:38 AM - Re: Prop Tach (Edward Chmielewski)
13. 10:50 AM - [ Scott Trask ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
14. 11:35 AM - Re: New Prop (John Hauck)
15. 11:35 AM - rivets (Paul Petty)
16. 11:46 AM - Re: New Prop (John Hauck)
17. 12:47 PM - Thinking out Load...He he he (Mike Pierzina)
18. 01:07 PM - Air speed indicator (Dale Sellers)
19. 01:09 PM - Re: Fw: Re: FireFly Video (Gary Thacker)
20. 01:11 PM - Lost my field.........thumbs (Gary Thacker)
21. 01:29 PM - Re: rivets (Bob Bean)
22. 03:15 PM - Re: rivets (James and Cathy Tripp)
23. 03:19 PM - Carbs (John Hauck)
24. 04:52 PM - Re: Skis? (Scott Trask)
25. 05:36 PM - Homer Kolb was at Kitty Hawk (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
26. 06:06 PM - Re: Skis? (Larry Bourne)
27. 06:25 PM - Lost my field HELP!!!!......thumbs (Gary Thacker)
28. 07:03 PM - Re: Lost my field HELP!!!!......thumbs (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Here are a couple Canadian Challenger websites where you should be able to find
great ski information.
http://www.challenger.ca/
http://www.challenger.ca/owners.html
Thom in Buffalo
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RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 2.60, RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Thanks for the heads up John. Boy am I going have a ball with this. Already sent
in two. I suggested that they read the tips and if they are valid, sent e-mails
to the customers as "updates" or "revisions. This has been my only gripe with
the factory thus far. After many phone calls to other builders of the "Kolbra"
I have determined that the building instructions (wont call them plans) have
not been updated from the beginning. Simple little things that could save
first timers like me a lot of valuable time and money. Not to beat up on Kolb
to much, they are great folks and I like them all, but a little quality control
is needed. I think the main reason the building instructions on the Kolbra have
not been updated is that not many customers/builders are going the "full build"
route. And the quick builders like Bryan already know the "tricks" of construction.
Heck I doubt Bryan even looks at the BI.
I think this is a good move on Kolb's part. Just hope they carry through and get
the info out to us so early in the building process.
As for anyone thinking of starting a kit, unless you really like tinkering, or
building parts (as I do). Go the quick build route......Save yourself a lot of
time and apologies at the pearly gates!
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Video thumbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary Thacker" <gbthacker@hotmail.com>
Can someone repost the site for the video?
Gary
Souderton,Pa.
>From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: FireFly Video
>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:24:12 -0800
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>After many trials and tribulations, nail biting and table pounding, and
>much
>colorful language, I finally got this thing sorted out, and was just now
>able to finally watch this neat video. Thanks Don - it's a goody.
>Wore Out Lar. Do not Archive.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
>www.gogittum.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FireFly Video
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini"
><donghe@one-eleven.net>
> >
> > Hey men..my brother shows up the airpark and with a new digital camera
> > stuck in a round the neck wire harmonica holde and says "Here..punch
>this
> > buttonand it take 30 secs worth a video. Take your FireFly and make me a
> > movie of around the patch once. OK I said...shes fast..but she wont get
> > around the patch in 30 secs...he tells me that all i gotta do is watch
>the
> > clock,,and hit the button after 30 secs and it will take
>another...ok..But
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Jack,
I'm wondering if it would be easier to work with Brass, Then you could use solder
to get the "Ring size" close and the "Chute angled up"...
Did the Scan of the sketch go thru ?
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey Jack,
I made a ruff sketch of a chute that I've been thinking
about (your chute) and I thought it would have a "Cleaner" look
if it had a "ring" that inserted into the carb inlet....loose enough
to squeeze an O-Ring between the two,.... and then some sort of
counter sunk screws to keep things in place...
Glad to see the List settling back down again...
Taker easy,
Gotta Fly...Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Video |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Here's Don's original email, with the site listed below. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FireFly Video
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Hey men..my brother shows up the airpark and with a new digital camera
> stuck in a round the neck wire harmonica holde and says "Here..punch this
> buttonand it take 30 secs worth a video. Take your FireFly and make me a
> movie of around the patch once. OK I said...shes fast..but she wont get
> around the patch in 30 secs...he tells me that all i gotta do is watch the
> clock,,and hit the button after 30 secs and it will take another...ok..But
> the wind is high...20 mph 90m deg from the strip...helluva cross wind.
> minimal conditions for me and the movie will be lousy. Well After I
thought
> about it..I said oh well...gotta get one trip around the patch before I go
> home..
>
> Here is a link to his website where he posted this flic...it a big
> download..8.4 meg I think...at the bottom of the page below all them RD
> models..
>
> but you lurkers who are thinking about building...here is how a FireFly
> handles a crosswind...windsock is in the opening few seconds.
> Just an amazin little bird huh!
>
>
> http://www.dgmodels.rchomepage.com/index.htm
>
>
> Don Gherardini
> FireFly 098
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
on 12/19/03 7:45 PM, Richard Pike at rwpike@charter.net wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Got a question for some of you guys in snowmobile country:
> Been thinking of skis for the MKIII,
Hi Richard & Guys
If your interested in making up skis I just sent in photos of my skis in to
Photo Share. Take a look there not much to look at. I made them from water
skis with a plastic bottom and tubing for a frame. The plastic gives me a
wider bottom for deeper snow. They also make a more durable bottom. I made
up most of the skis from stuff that I already had lying around.
Scott Trask IMT
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning Gang:
The installation and tuning of the new 72" 3 blade Warp
Drive is progressing slowly, despite the wind, rain, and
extremely cold temps for Alabama.
I forgot to measure the pitch in degrees of the old 70" Warp
before I pulled and disassembled it. So, I had to guess at
the appropriate setting for the new Warp. I started out
with 11.5 deg which produced 5,000 rpm static. I knew this
was way to low. I am looking for 5,300. I went ahead and
flew to see how the engine would perform loaded down. It
was getting dark, but I had time for a quick circuit around
the patch. As soon as I cleared the surrounding trees I
realized how hard the wind was blowing and the turbulence.
I turned on the panel lights to see the instruments and the
oil pressure gauge started dropping. Turned off the lights
and the gauge went back up to normal. Another problem to
trouble shoot and repair. None of the other 12VDC
accessories pulled down the oil press gauge. I was
surprised, the 912ULS would only pull 5,000 WOT, straight
and level flight. Oh well, time to quit and try another day.
Yesterday went back over to Gantt International Airport.
Pulled 2 deg out of the prop. This resulted in 5,400 rpm
static. Wind was blowing 15-25 mph, but turbulence was
minimal on the airstrip. This test flight, although rough
as a cob at 2,000 feet, indicated 5,600 rpm WOT straight and
level, which is 100 rpm above my goal of 5,500 rpm max
continuous power. Don't ask me what my true airspeed was
cause I was too busy holding on and the instrument panel was
bouncing too much to see very well. However, it was
hovering close to 100 mph. I tried several flights with the
gps, averaging my reverse course speeds to see how accurate
the ASI was, but with 25 mph winds aloft, it was not
productive enough to say for sure. However, it did look
like it was close to accurate at 90 and again at 80 mph.
Loaded with me and 10 gal of fuel, Miss P'fer is like a sky
rocket with the prop set to turn 5400 static. The 2,000 FPM
VSI was pegged during all climbs at full throttle. Not bad
for an old fat girl. Please do not tell her I said that.
She is nearly as sensitive as some of us on the Kolb List.
Today will go back and repitch one more time. .5 deg should
give me 5300 rpm static and 5500 WOT straight and level
flight. I may have to repitch another .5 deg when warm
weather returns and the prop looses some of its efficiency
to keep it at 5500 max.
I am still undecided about using the prop spinner, which
fits nicely and looks good. The reason is I can not see the
6 prop bolts. Prop bolts have been know to break. I can't
preflight them if I can't see them.
Is is May 2004 yet? I am ready to head West!
Take care,
john h
PS: I think this info has a place for future reference in
the Archives.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Hey Jack, I made a ruff sketch of a chute that I've been
> thinking about (your chute) and I thought it would have a
> "Cleaner" look if it had a "ring" that inserted into the
> carb inlet....loose enough to squeeze an O-Ring between
> the two,.... and then some sort of counter sunk screws to
> keep things in place...
>
> Glad to see the List settling back down again... Taker
> easy, Gotta Fly...Mike in MN
Hi Mike:
I'm not in to two strokes much any more, but was curious to
the effects of changing the inlet size of your carb by
inserting a chute/"O" ring into it.
Will that change fuel/air ratio?
I discovered, when I was a kid, playing with my Dad's first
powered rotary lawn mower, back in the early 50's, the
nature of fuel standoff at the inlet of the carb. With the
air cleaner off of the little Briggs 4 stroke running at
3600 rpm, there was a little cloud of fuel vapor hovering a
few inches from the carb throat. Later on I discovered the
same fuel stand off with two strokes and also on the 1935
Ford pickup 85 hp V8. Amazing! With a small air filter on
a Rotax, it is easy to see how the fuel vapor standoff could
saturate the filter and eventually drip. Instead of trying
to funnel the oil back into the carb, how about building
scuppers under the carb to catch the drips, then route to a
catch can that can be dumped during preflight. That way you
do not screw the characteristics of air flow to the carb.
Thinking out load again,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
I forgot to mention in my post, dialing in the new prop,
that I probably need to to a prop check to determine if my
tach is still telling me the truth. That should be done
prior to dialing in the new prop.
A prop tach is something we don't need very often, but are
invaluable for calibrating the tach. I think the Rotax
912/912ULS tachs have a little screw in the back to change
calibration. 'll find out when I pull the instrument panel
to run down my 12VDC problem with the panel lights and oil
pressure gauge.
Anyone have a source for a good, reliable, inexpensive prop
tach? I have heard of people using prop tachs designed for
RC airplane engines.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi John/Kolbers,
Just wondering John, why the prop change? If you discussed it earlier,
I missed
it. Thanks.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: New Prop
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Morning Gang:
>
> The installation and tuning of the new 72" 3 blade Warp
> Drive is progressing slowly, despite the wind, rain, and
> extremely cold temps for Alabama.
(Snip)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Has anybody ever experimented with velocity stacks to deal with that fuel
cloud / standoff? My thinking is that if there was a channeled column of
air keeping that cloud inside of the engine instead of pulsing back and
forth in and out of the carb, the engine ought to be more efficient, and
the amount of oil in the filter ought to be more constant.
Thoughts?
Richard Pike
MKIII N4220P (420ldPoops)
At 10:18 AM 12/20/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>I discovered, when I was a kid, playing with my Dad's first
>powered rotary lawn mower, back in the early 50's, the
>nature of fuel standoff at the inlet of the carb. With the
>air cleaner off of the little Briggs 4 stroke running at
>3600 rpm, there was a little cloud of fuel vapor hovering a
>few inches from the carb throat. Later on I discovered the
>same fuel stand off with two strokes and also on the 1935
>Ford pickup 85 hp V8. Amazing! With a small air filter on
>a Rotax, it is easy to see how the fuel vapor standoff could
>saturate the filter and eventually drip. Instead of trying
>to funnel the oil back into the carb, how about building
>scuppers under the carb to catch the drips, then route to a
>catch can that can be dumped during preflight. That way you
>do not screw the characteristics of air flow to the carb.
>
>Thinking out load again,
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi John,
Here's a nice little electronic tach, works on 2, 3 or 4-blade props.
Only 25
bucks. I used mine to check the Swearingen Merlin IIIB i flew a couple years back,
accurate to a couple tenths of a percent. You must use them in daylight only though,
60-cycle AC from shop lights (like in your hangar) messes up the readings.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPX81&P=7
Here's another nice 25 dollar gizzy, an infrared temp gauge. Test your microwaved
pizza
without burning your thumb (or your CHT!). Tower Hobbies is the 800-pound gorilla
of RC
retailers, very good company.
http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/duratrax/dtxp3100.html
Ed in JXN
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Prop Tach
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Gang:
(Snip)
> Anyone have a source for a good, reliable, inexpensive prop
> tach? I have heard of people using prop tachs designed for
> RC airplane engines.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Just wondering John, why the prop change?
> Ed in JXN MkII/503
Hello Ed/Gang:
Had a 70" Warp on the 912. That was the longest blade Warp
could build with the Nickel Steel Leading Edge Protection,
at that time.
When I upgraded to the 912ULS, Warp had developed technology
to build a 72" prop and increased the steel edge from 11" to
15". The additional length of the steel edge covered a
critical area that extended 3" inboard of the old 11" edge.
It was in this area that rain erosion occurred. No more
problem with the longer edge.
After more than 100 flight hours with the 72" Warp and two
inch extension, I had a blade strike on the left inboard end
of the flap on start up. That happened a few days prior to
departure to Alaska, 2001. I didn't have a longer prop
extension, at that time, so cut an inch off each blade.
While at Oshkosh, this year, Daryl had a new system,
polished and improved HPL Hub and neat white tips on the
blades. Yes, and a nicely fitted spinner. With more than
600 hours on the old system, Daryl agreed to give me another
prop. Warp Drive has been my prop sponsor since September
1993. Good folks to do business with. Tell'em Hauck sent
you. :-)
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Do any of you recall how many rivets your plans call for on the main rib flange?
My B I call for four on each side in the "text" but show 5 on the rivet pattern.
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hello Gang:
Forgot to mention in the last post:
Flying with a 4" prop extension with the 72" Warp Drive.
john h
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| Subject: | Thinking out Load...He he he |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hi John,
I haven't even ran the "Break-in" for my 503 yet....and I'll keep things
"Stock" for awhile , But I just went out to the garage and pulled the filter
off to look at the area of this carb mod.... it doesn't look like it would starve
air flow because the air intake gets even smaller as it goes in...
but as I was looking at it I was wondering why the Chute couldn't attach to the
filter instead of the carb.... Same with your idea about catching it to drain
later...
But for now I'll just have to be happy with wiping off the oil spray.
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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SNIP>>>>>>>>>
Hi Mike:
I'm not in to two strokes much any more, but was curious to
the effects of changing the inlet size of your carb by
inserting a chute/"O" ring into it.
Will that change fuel/air ratio?
Thinking out load again,
john h
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| Subject: | Air speed indicator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Anybody got an extra ASI laying around you want to get rid of? 3 1/8", 0-80ish.
Let me know.
Dale Sellers
Georgia Ultra Star
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Video |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary Thacker" <gbthacker@hotmail.com>
Thanks Larry very cool video
Gary
Souderton,Pa.
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| Subject: | Lost my field.........thumbs |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary Thacker" <gbthacker@hotmail.com>
Well civilization closed in on me. I lost my field out in Royersford Pa. I
am looking for another place to fly out of. Does anyone know of a place I
can keep and fly my Firestar ll?
Thanks for the help
Gary
Souderton,Pa.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Paul, doesn't make a whole lot of difference, I know I put in less than
the last guy who built my crumpled wing. My rivet patterns are guided
more by symmetry and "does it look pretty". -BB
Paul Petty wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>Do any of you recall how many rivets your plans call for on the main rib flange?
My B I call for four on each side in the "text" but show 5 on the rivet pattern.
>
>Paul Petty
>Building Ms. Dixie
>Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
>do not archive
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
My FSII plans called for 8 rivets in each flange, 4 on the front of the spar
and 4 on the back. NONE ON THE TOP OR BOTTOM!
James Tripp
FSII, still painting
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: rivets
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Do any of you recall how many rivets your plans call for on the main rib
flange? My B I call for four on each side in the "text" but show 5 on the
rivet pattern.
>
> Paul Petty
> Building Ms. Dixie
> Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> look at the area of this carb mod.... it doesn't look
> like it would starve air flow because the air intake gets
> even smaller as it goes in...
> Mike in MN Do not archive
Hi Mike/All:
Do you think the Bing engineers designed the intake on their
carbs in that shape for any particular reason?
I was thinking if one should change the shape of the bell of
the inlet of the carb, it could also affect other
performance characteristics of the carb. If that was the
case, one would soon run out of steam chasing his tail
trying to cure all the carb problems he had created for himself.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
on 12/20/03 9:52 AM, Scott Trask at sctrask@diisd.org wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
>
> on 12/19/03 7:45 PM, Richard Pike at rwpike@charter.net wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>>
>> Got a question for some of you guys in snowmobile country:
>> Been thinking of skis for the MKIII,
>
> Hi Richard & Guys
> If your interested in making up skis I just sent in photos of my skis in to
> Photo Share. Take a look there not much to look at. I made them from water
> skis with a plastic bottom and tubing for a frame. The plastic gives me a
> wider bottom for deeper snow. They also make a more durable bottom. I made
> up most of the skis from stuff that I already had lying around.
> Scott Trask IMT
Hi again
One think I forgot to point out about the photos. You will see wheels on
the skis. They are just on there to get the plane in and out of the hangar.
They just slip on and off.
If you get up and flying with skis and start dropping in some remote
trackless lakes. It would be a good idea to find a good place to put a pair
of snow shoes in your plane. Hopefully you will not need them to walk out,
but you may need them to make a runway. When I land on such lakes I will do
a few touch and goes first. Take good look at my tracks and check for slush.
I had once landed on a lake and step out of the plane (to do some ice
fishing) and took one step and went over my knees and half of it was slush.
The plane sat there as nice as can be with those big skis on. Merry
Christmas.
Scott Trask IMT
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| Subject: | Homer Kolb was at Kitty Hawk |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
I didn't go, but eight fellow members of South Jersey EAA Chapter 216 did.
On the way home they had stopped to eat somewhere and in the diner saw a fellow
who looked familiar (our chapter, being close to Phoneixville, Pa had visited
Homers place several years ago). One of our members said to this fellow, "Do
we kown you? You look like someone we've seen before". After some
conversation, the gentelman said, "I'm Homer Kolb". He said they had driven down,
stayed overnight and were now heading home.
Do Not Archive
Bill Varnes
Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
How on earth did you get it out of there ?? Hmmm.............this awful
desert's looking a little better. :-) Brrrrrr...... Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Trask" <sctrask@diisd.org>
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Skis?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
>
> on 12/20/03 9:52 AM, Scott Trask at sctrask@diisd.org wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
> >
> > on 12/19/03 7:45 PM, Richard Pike at rwpike@charter.net wrote:
> >
> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
> >>
> >> Got a question for some of you guys in snowmobile country:
> >> Been thinking of skis for the MKIII,
> >
> > Hi Richard & Guys
> > If your interested in making up skis I just sent in photos of my skis in
to
> > Photo Share. Take a look there not much to look at. I made them from
water
> > skis with a plastic bottom and tubing for a frame. The plastic gives me
a
> > wider bottom for deeper snow. They also make a more durable bottom. I
made
> > up most of the skis from stuff that I already had lying around.
> > Scott Trask IMT
>
>
> Hi again
> One think I forgot to point out about the photos. You will see wheels on
> the skis. They are just on there to get the plane in and out of the
hangar.
> They just slip on and off.
> If you get up and flying with skis and start dropping in some remote
> trackless lakes. It would be a good idea to find a good place to put a
pair
> of snow shoes in your plane. Hopefully you will not need them to walk out,
> but you may need them to make a runway. When I land on such lakes I will
do
> a few touch and goes first. Take good look at my tracks and check for
slush.
> I had once landed on a lake and step out of the plane (to do some ice
> fishing) and took one step and went over my knees and half of it was
slush.
> The plane sat there as nice as can be with those big skis on. Merry
> Christmas.
> Scott Trask IMT
>
>
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| Subject: | Lost my field HELP!!!!......thumbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary Thacker" <gbthacker@hotmail.com>
I tried to post this earlier but I don't think it got through.
I am a victim of encroaching civilization. My field has succomb to a
housing development.
I am looking for a place to keep and fly my Firestar. I live about 40 miles
north of Philadelphia Pa. between Lansdale and Quakertown. Does anyone know
of a field where I can relocate?
Thanks for the help
Gary
Souderton,Pa.
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my field HELP!!!!......thumbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
> I am looking for a place to keep and fly my Firestar. I live about 40 miles
> north of Philadelphia Pa. between Lansdale and Quakertown. Does anyone know
> of a field where I can relocate?
Sorry to hear that you lost your flying field! We are in Lancaster Co.
but that's a little far to go. I'm not that familiar down in that area,
but there must be some place to fly. One guy around here keeps his
Firestar II in his garage and flys out of his yard, (big yard) :-) Good
luck! -- Earl
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