---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/26/03: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:49 AM - Re: No to Sport Pilot! (bryan green) 2. 05:56 AM - Re: Accidents (Denny Rowe) 3. 06:58 AM - Sport Pilot update (Lloyd O'Dell) 4. 07:13 AM - Enclosed trailer question (Jo and Larry) 5. 07:27 AM - Re: Sport Pilot update (snuffy@usol.com) 6. 07:48 AM - 4-stroke power (was Nikasil Cylinders) (Olenik Aviation) 7. 07:56 AM - Boyd Young (Mike Pierzina) 8. 11:44 AM - Re: Enclosed trailer question (Larry Bourne) 9. 11:56 AM - Re: Nikasil Cylinders and clearances (Olenik Aviation) 10. 11:56 AM - Primer (Bill Vincent) 11. 12:12 PM - Cleaning out carbon (Bill Vincent) 12. 12:53 PM - Re: Enclosed trailer question (Johann) 13. 12:54 PM - Matronics Internet Connection Repaired!! (Matt Dralle) 14. 12:58 PM - Re: Sport Pilot update (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 15. 12:58 PM - Re: Trailer for sale (Vic) 16. 12:59 PM - Re:Sport Pilot (Vic) 17. 03:03 PM - Re: Cleaning out carbon--water injection (Bob N.) 18. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: Trailer for sale (Bob N.) 19. 03:33 PM - Re: Cleaning out carbon (Larry Bourne) 20. 03:54 PM - Re: Cleaning out carbon (Edward Chmielewski) 21. 04:12 PM - Re: Sport Pilot update (ALLENB007@aol.com) 22. 05:38 PM - Re: Sport Pilot update (Bob Bean) 23. 09:15 PM - Fw: need info (garvelink) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:23 AM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: No to Sport Pilot! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" Tim, I hear ya Bro but as a USUA member I am looking forward to sport pilot since my plane weighs 325 and I want more fuel and brakes. IMHO the USUA is not planning on abandoning members that still want to fly true part 103 planes just changing with the times. This does not mean that I agree with all things in sport pilot, but its gonna happen and sometime we have to adapt, overcome and use what we are given. Fly safe and have fun. Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS ----- Original Message ----- From: "artdog1512" Subject: Kolb-List: No to Sport Pilot! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 > > FAA informing us that late yesterday afternoon, the > Secretary of the > Department of Transportation has signed off on the > proposed Sport > Pilot/Light > Sport Aircraft Rule................. > "This is great news for our community," says USUA EVP > Dale Hooper, .......>>>> > > brothers - > i strongly disagree with Dale and the USUA on > this issue. the USUA, in my narrow minded opinion, has > betrayed and abandoned ultralighters by supporting the > Sport Pilot rule. now before you all start flaming me > understand that the USUA was founded to support > ultralighters operating under Part 103 rules, NOT > people trying to "backdoor" their way into some form > of a "real pliots license". the USUA's support of > Sport Pilot craps on those of us who are the > foundation of what ultralighting is about. i submit > that Sport Pilot is a seperate issue for a seprate > group of people NOT ultralighters. Sport Pilot will be > a benefit to few and a hassle to many..... with the > utmost respect... tim > do not archive > > __________________________________ > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:40 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Accidents --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan McBride" > and a Happy (and Safe) New Year. > > Healing in sunny south Florida, > Duncan McBride > Mk 3, 319DM > > - Thanks for the good advice Duncan, you never know how much good it may do. Glad to hear your accident wasn't any worse. Dennis Rowe, Mk-3, PA do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:29 AM PST US From: "Lloyd O'Dell" Subject: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot update --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Lloyd O'Dell" Tim and others, Tim, I must agree with you. As I understand it , the original intent, several years ago, was to increase the empty weight of the ultralight aircraft. That was replaced by more regulations. I do not see how Sport Pilot Rules will benefit a commercial or private rated pilot wanting to fly a heavy "Ultralight", unless you reduce the weight and fly under part 103. Lloyd, Central Florida - FSII Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:15 AM PST US From: "Jo and Larry" Subject: Kolb-List: Enclosed trailer question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" What is the minimum length of an enclosed trailer used for hauling Kolbs(Firestar)? Plans are to start with an open trailer and do the enclosure ourselves. I thought I read somewhere 24ft. Thanks in Advance.. Larry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:15 AM PST US From: snuffy@usol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot update --> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com > Tim and others, I do not see how Sport Pilot Rules will benefit a commercial or > private rated pilot No longer will need a medical if you have private pilot rating. Commercial another ball game altogether. Don't think " Sport Pilot " was ever really concerned about commercial pilots. Not sure it was focused on ultralighters either. I think ultralighters were hoping it would benefit them. I think the focus was on making it easier to get into aviation . Don't see where ultralighters have lost anything but they can move into the area where they can take somebody up with them without having to go through the private rating and all the expense that involves. Kirk Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:10 AM PST US From: "Olenik Aviation" Subject: Kolb-List: 4-stroke power (was Nikasil Cylinders) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" I'm not sure what thier plans are other than they want to grow in the aircraft business and they do plan to make more than just one model of engine. Now, I don't know if there is much of a market is for a smaller 4-stroke, but there is certainly one for a larger one that currently Rotax, Jabiru, and Verner are all going after. Right now HKS is filling a nich that no one else is just below the Rotax 912 for 4-stroke power. If they make a bigger engine, they will be going head to head with Rotax and the others for the 4-stroke market. I might be wrong, but when it comes to 4-stroke performance, I think HKS probably has an edge over all of those other companies including Rotax. 4-stroke performance has been thier business for 30 years. That's thier specialty. Tom Olenik Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation. Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell...... -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Petty Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nikasil Cylinders --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Tom, does HKS have plans for a 4 cylinder 4 cycle engine in the future? Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olenik Aviation" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Nikasil Cylinders > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" > > Don, > > I would have to disagree about HKS not being a major company. HKS may not > be a major engine manufacturer, but they are a major engine component > manufacturer. They've been in the performance parts making biz for 30 years > and have been manufacturing engine components in house for that 30 years > that companies like Rotax still out source like electronics, turbo chargers, > etc. > > Go to a search engine and start searching for HKS performance parts. I > don't know the exact numbers, but I think they are pretty close to being the > same size as Rotax. > > Have you seen the movies "The Fast and the Furious" and "2 Fast 2 Furious"? > HKS makes a lot of the performance products that guys put into those > performance compacts like those used in the movie. In fact, if you watch > the first movie, there is a great big HKS poster on the wall at the > performance parts store where the guy works. > > Maybe HKS has not been making complete engines for as long as Rotax, but I > would not call them a small player. I'd almost be willing to bet that they > have deeper pockets for future development than Rotax does. > > If you think .005" is close, the by the book NEW piston to cylinder wall > clearance for the Rotax 582 is .06mm or .0024". Try those 2-stroke numbers > on for size. This is right out of the current maintenance manual in section > 11.27. That is with a cast iron cylinder sleeve. > > Tom Olenik > Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation. > Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines > Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes > http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com > Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS > Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell...... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Gherardini > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nikasil Cylinders > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > John... > > WOW....now I am starting to understand also!!...with a wear limit of 5 > thou...that is a tighter clearance than most engines with that bore size are > put together new!!! > > I must confess to know very little about a Rotax 912...as I have no direct > exper with a single one. But from reading those clearances...it is pretty > clear that they are taking full advantage of the properties of a Nikasil > coated cyl. > > What I *think* I know about that dang 912 is....and correct me if I'm > wrong.... > > It is the only engine in current production by a major engine manufacturer > that has been designed specifically for aircraft use with current technology > in design..100 hp and below...( I am always keeping my eye out..has any got > past me?) > I leave out the Vernier..the HKS...simply because those companies just > cannot be considered major manufacturers in the engine industry.. Since > Zenoah got out..they were about that last major that was in the Biz...Rotax > is now dang near all alone. > All the others I can think of in current production have their roots based > on a design for some other industry...PWC..snowmobiles..etc... > I leave out Lycoming and Cont....because you just cannot call their designs > "current tecnology". > >From my viewpoint...that dang 912 is likely the best current choice we > have > today due simply to its use of current technology in engine development. > It is really pretty simple men..No other major manufacturer has even > attempted to start a project for this market. The KEY word here is > major..because a small manufacturer will never have the resources to produce > an engine at a lower price than a major can. THey may choose to sell one > cheaper..but not produce it cheaper! (2SI for example) > > AS far as the high price...well, I'm not to sure it has to do with the > precise tolerances that this engine is manufacturered to, for example Honda > Builds several engines of similiar tolerances...technologies...in fact..even > higher standards of technology I might say...But...due to several > factors..they are a helluvalot less money... > Production Volume is #1 > Competition is 2nd... > these 2 factors are a couple a things that Rotax does not have for the > 912...they have very little production volume...and they have virtually no > competition. > So I submit that these 2 things together with the smaller factors > like...new ownership group that has an obligation to its shareholders to > maximize profit on alot of brand new debt...and a market that has shown its > willingness to "pay the price"..have more to do with prices than anything > else. > The fact that is a good design and has high quality parts I think is way > down the list. > This is not unusual BTW...it would be the same at Honda or any other if > roles were reversed! > > One last comparison....and I offer this to substantiate the above... > A 503 or a 582 cost compared to a 912... > These 2 strokes mentioned poabably cost about 20 % to produce as the 912 by > my judgment....maybe less..(and I am leaving out the tooling factor that was > likely long ago amoritized on the 2 strokes.... due to the new debt the > company has)..so one way to look at it is...either the 912 is a very good > value...or the 582 is a real big rip-off!!! > > > Don Gherardini > FireFly 098 > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:08 AM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Boyd Young --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Boyd, Below is the message that I sent you, Thanking you for your reply . But the message was blocked... Do not archive : Connected to 206.71.93.4 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 550 Filter 0 has been configured to reject mail from planecrazzzy@mailcity.com --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Thanks for the reply... Yes, I've been thinking about using some of my clear shipping tape....I've also been wondering about using "First AID" tape....you know, the white stuff that has been around for years and is pretty sticky...Since my wing is mostly white it should blend right in....I'll have to do some experimenting... Got my Wing Fold tubes done and wings are PINNED in place....not alot more to do...mostly small little misc. stuff....and waiting out winter... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN (heated garage) if you take some clear packing tape 2" wide and place a 1" piece in the center exposing 1/2 inch on eace edge... tape it to the wing and the polished aluminum ,,,,, maybe it wont look too bad. i dont know how long it would last.. i did the same thing but with yellow book binding tape. been on over a year. boyd ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:07 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Enclosed trailer question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" The trailer I bought was built for a FireStar, and is 23' long, inside. Plenty for a FireStar, but tight for my Mk III, and I had to lengthen it. Take a look at it in my website, under "Building Vamoose/Trailer & Landing Gear." Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo and Larry" Subject: Kolb-List: Enclosed trailer question > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" > > > What is the minimum length of an enclosed trailer used for hauling > Kolbs(Firestar)? Plans are to start with an open trailer and do the > enclosure ourselves. I thought I read somewhere 24ft. > Thanks in Advance.. > Larry > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:00 AM PST US From: "Olenik Aviation" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Nikasil Cylinders and clearances --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" Don, I don't set them that tight. I usually shoot for the mid .003" range. Most of the time I am between .0032" and .0035". I just set up my own engine at .0034" I think one reason why the 2SI 690 was so seizure resistance was because I think they set most of those no tighter than .006" and run them to .010" Lots of leg room for those pistons. Tom Olenik Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation. Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell...... -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Gherardini Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nikasil Cylinders --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" HIya Tom, In reading you post...I reckon we think alike.. snip...<<>> cause I didnt say HKS was not a major company..just not a major engine manufacturer...and I think you said it well in the above clip.. . I am in fact aware of HKS performance parts...In Japan....these guys are to Honda like TRW is to Chevrolet! Half the Hondas in the parking lot at work are full of HKS goodies under the hood! I also believe that HKS products are of very high quality...and I think that their opposed twin is the best there is on the market of its type. I also can vouch for the companies integrity, and their support for their products..This company I do have direct expierience with. And I think you may be very possibly right when you mention that they might have deeper pockets than Rotax...now that the assets of Bombardier are out of the picture. New 582 clearance 6mm huh?.... I'll be...now that does suprise me Tom...sure didnt know that, and I'm glad for you to mention it. I'll admit that it sounds tight to me, even for a liquid cooled engine...but..we are selling our Industrial V-twins and sure enough..6mm is the new clearance on these also..(I always thought they were to tight too!!!) and they seem to do fine!...just shows what I know I guess! While I have your ear Tom, and I know you have a lot more exp with these Rotax's than I do...(which BTW I have dang little) If I had a worn out 582 and sent it to you for an overhaul...and you needed to bore it and install new pistons...would you set it up that tight? Got to go and put together toys now fer the grandkids..... Merry Christmas to all of you my aviatin' brothers! Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:22 AM PST US From: Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: Primer --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Hi Gang If anyone on the list is planning on flying your 2 cycle in the cold weather for the first time I recommend using a primer. I did not use a primer the first winter I flew and could not believe how good it started the next winter when I did use a primer. Bill Vincent Firestar II Quinnesec, Upper Peninsula of Michigan ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:12:45 PM PST US From: Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: Cleaning out carbon --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Hi Gang I am curious if any of you "old timers" remember years ago when they sold attachments for automobile engines which would shoot water (humid air) into the engine while you were driving and it was supposed to clean out the carbon and improve the mileage. It must have been a scam because I never hear of them anymore. Bill Vincent Firestar II Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:09 PM PST US From: "Johann" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Enclosed trailer question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann" Hello Larry. My trailer is 23,5 feet and it works fine. 24 feet would be perfect. Then you could walk all aound it easily, with pitot tube in place. Best regards, Johann G. http://www.gi.is/fis -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jo and Larry Subject: Kolb-List: Enclosed trailer question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" What is the minimum length of an enclosed trailer used for hauling Kolbs(Firestar)? Plans are to start with an open trailer and do the enclosure ourselves. I thought I read somewhere 24ft. Thanks in Advance.. Larry == == == == ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:04 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Matronics Internet Connection Repaired!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, The phone company was out here bright and early this morning and repaired the wires and the T1 connection is back up and rock solid! Again my apologies for any inconvenience the disruption may have caused. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:22 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot update --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" I agree The sport pilot option will remove one of the many regulations or hoops that I have to deal with, the biannual medical. I like the Sport Pilot license. I can understand the concern of many ultra light pilots who have been bending the rules for many years. It would be nice if some of the ultra light restrictions would be eased so that more people could fly single place ultra light planes legally but that isn't happening. What I don't agree with is the great number of people that fly two passenger (non training) planes as ultra lights. When I was flying my Weedhopper as a foot launchable ultra light the FAA came out with part 103 and most every one thought that they were extremely generous in their definitions. Then they allowed the two passenger training rule so that people could get training in a like aircraft. This this was a major safety improvement for the ultra light community. My understanding is that the Sport Pilot rules will allow illegal ultra light pilots to easily transition to the Sport Pilot license. This is a move that is viewed as a fair way to two passenger ultra light pilots into the Sport Pilot fold and improve the safety for these pilots and their passengers. I would not be surprised that after the grand fathering period has closed that the FAA will crack down on the illegal two passenger ultra light pilots. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com > > > Tim and others, > I do not see how Sport Pilot Rules will benefit a commercial or > > private rated pilot > > No longer will need a medical if you have private pilot rating. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:58 PM PST US From: "Vic" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Trailer for sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" Tandem axle homemade Kolb Firestar trailer for sale. Trailer is light weight and can be pulled with 6 cylinder Ford Ranger type vehicle if not going far. Rear door drops down to form ramp. Kolb loads tail first with a hand operated wench. Tail boom support trolly assist in loading and securely fastens Kolb down for safe trailering. $2,100. In the Phoenix, AZ area. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:01 PM PST US From: "Vic" Subject: Kolb-List: Re:Sport Pilot --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" I have been a member of USUA almost since its beginning and have witnessed the struggle USUA has had in defending our right to fly. While Sport Pilot is not what I wish for, I believe it is a better solution to the fat ultralight problem than what we have currently. Our choices right now are to be 103 legal or get your pilot's license and get your aircraft classified as experimental. I know that USUA backed the H. O. Malone proposal which I felt offered a reasonable solution for fat ultralights but USUA did not get any support from the other flying associations. When it became apparent that the FAA would not deal with the fat-ultralight problem in a realistic manor, USUA supported sport pilot in exchange for keeping part 103 intact. So if you don't like sport-pilot get your aircraft 103 legal and you won't have a problem. If your aircraft is overweight, then light sport pilot is a lot better than having to go the full blown experimental/pilot's license route. I think we should thank USUA for all their hard work. Vic Do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:19 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cleaning out carbon--water injection --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." It's been done on several 4 stroKe engines--mil calls it water Injection. They put some antifreeze in to keep the tank and line from freezing. Mainly for increased power. BobN. do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:01 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Trailer for sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." Vic, At 80-goin'-on, I'd like to get more info on your "...hand operated wench..." So would my lady wench. regards, Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:33:19 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cleaning out carbon --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" No, it wasn't a scam - high performance supercharged WW II aircraft used them to control detonation, and it worked extremely well. I've read the reason you don't see them anymore, but forget the details. In my own experience, I had a '72 Bronco with 302 engine, back in the late '70's. For more power, being loco and all, I put a set of 260 heads on it, which raised compression ratio to nearly 11:1, and the thing went real well, and got very good gas mileage (18 mpg)..............until they phased out super premium leaded gasoline. It pinged so bad on regular that it was un-driveable, so installed a computerized water injection system with a pump that increased the amount of water with rpm's and load, (Edelbrock ??) rather than the suction type that worked the opposite, and are pretty much useless. I can solidly state that it works, and works very well. It totally controlled detonation in that engine.............when it worked. :-) The water had to be very carefully filtered to keep the systems' tiny orifices on the spray bar from plugging up, and it always seemed to run dry at the most in-opportune times. Got to be such a headache I finally went back to stock heads. When I did finally pull those 260 heads off, the combustion chambers and valves were spotless. No deposits of any kind. Thinking of that Bronco.........for those of you running point-type ignition, here's another lesson I learned: don't pick on me for the numbers - it's been over 20 years ago - but here's about what happened................ let's say the book called for 8 deg initial advance and 32 deg dwell, and I would very carefully set it up at exactly that. After a few hundred miles, check it again, and - I forget the numbers - but as the rubbing block on the points wore, the timing would change one way, and the dwell would change the other. Happened pretty quick. Mileage would go from 18 mpg down to 16, power was down, and it'd start pinging again. I had never thought it'd be so touchy, or critical. Now, please, I know you 're not running Ford 302 engines, but this might be food for thought for some of you. Been There Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Kolb-List: Cleaning out carbon > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > Hi Gang > > I am curious if any of you "old timers" remember years ago when they > sold attachments for automobile engines which would shoot water (humid > air) into the engine while you were driving and it was supposed to clean > out the carbon and improve the mileage. It must have been a scam > because I never hear of them anymore. > > Bill Vincent > Firestar II > Upper Peninsula of Michigan > > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:21 PM PST US From: "Edward Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cleaning out carbon --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" Happy Holidays Kolbers, Not Kolb-related, but the list is slow, so... I had a college auto shop teacher (1971) who taught us his technique for decarboning Grandma's LeSabre. (Carburetor only) get the engine up to normal temp, take off the air cleaner, rev it up to 5 grand or so and squirt as much water into the carb as it would take and still run. Had one of us back at the exhaust pipe with a piece of poster board, and the thing was covered with black chunks - some surprisingly big. Seemed tough on the engine. I wouldn't recommend this, but it did work with those big, simple carbed V-8's. Also had a Swearingen Merlin IIIB corporate-type turboprop with water/alcohol (50/50) injection - what a gas! Bring torque to 50%, hit the switch and hang on - left the line like a big-block 'Vette. The system was meant to lower temps for hot/high operations. Worked great. Do not archive. Ed in JXN MkII/503 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Kolb-List: Cleaning out carbon > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent > > Hi Gang > > I am curious if any of you "old timers" remember years ago when they > sold attachments for automobile engines which would shoot water (humid > air) into the engine while you were driving and it was supposed to clean > out the carbon and improve the mileage. (Snip) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:15 PM PST US From: ALLENB007@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot update --> Kolb-List message posted by: ALLENB007@aol.com You're only a medical away from sport pilot ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:20 PM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean ALLENB007@aol.com wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: ALLENB007@aol.com > >You're only a medical away from sport pilot > ----Exactly. here's my personal position on this....I am in excellent physical condition and would have no problem passing, except I would have to lie. About 7 years ago I had a serious heart-lung infection which really laid me low and caused some damage which has cleared itself up since. For a while I was on meds for irregular rate (tachycardia). So if I were to be completely honest I would have to pay some absurd number of dollars just to tell me what I already know , I'm fine, not just my opinion but also that of my personal physician. Since my doc isn't a "FAA licensed Medical Examiner" that doesn't do me a whole lot of good...just another racket in my book. So that's my take on the sitcheyashun. I welcome the change. -BB do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:33 PM PST US From: "garvelink" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: need info --> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" From: garvelink Subject: need info Hey guys I am in the process of buying an ultrastar, have you all had problems with the cayuna engine or can you get decent service out of them if you tinker with them. also does anybody support the ultrastar or is there anybody making aftermarket parts frames ect? From what I take from reading the list homer is afraid of litigation and no longer says anything. well how bout refitting electric starter to the cayuna or refitting a new engine to the ultrastar. Like a rotax with electric start? what should I look for in terms of fatigue in the wing area IE the attach points and how bout fatigue in the frame. this aircraft is coming on to its 20th year. any suggestions? Any advice. and if you are afraid to give it because of the implications of law suits this notice serves to hold you harmless if I take your advice. also does any one have the drag spar modification that was sent out after Denis flew the ultrastar to distruction? Srglink