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1. 12:19 AM - Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine (jerb)
2. 04:37 AM - Re: tip for trip (Dave Rains)
3. 07:03 AM - Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine (Olenik Aviation)
4. 07:49 AM - Re: tip for trip (possums)
5. 08:30 AM - marII twinstar (Paul Petty)
6. 08:50 AM - Spam (Larry Bourne)
7. 09:13 AM - Re: Spam (Bob Bean)
8. 09:17 AM - Re: Spam (Edward Chmielewski)
9. 09:17 AM - Re: Spam (Kirk Smith)
10. 09:36 AM - Re: marII twinstar (Eugene Zimmerman)
11. 09:44 AM - Re: Spam (Dave Carr)
12. 10:07 AM - Spam (Fackler, Ken)
13. 10:32 AM - Re: marII twinstar (John Cooley)
14. 10:53 AM - Re: marII twinstar (Jim Hauck)
15. 11:05 AM - Re: Spam (Richard Pike)
16. 11:23 AM - thanks (Paul Petty)
17. 11:41 AM - Re: Off Topic - Spam (jerb)
18. 11:53 AM - Mon Valley Dates (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
19. 12:44 PM - Re: marII twinstar (Don Gherardini)
20. 12:54 PM - Re: markII twinstar (Edward Chmielewski)
21. 12:55 PM - Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine (Don Gherardini)
22. 01:24 PM - Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine (jerb)
23. 01:32 PM - Re: Mon Valley Dates (John Hauck)
24. 02:41 PM - Re: tip for trip (jerb)
25. 02:44 PM - Re: IVO Prop Extension (Vic)
26. 02:51 PM - Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine (Don Gherardini)
27. 02:54 PM - Haul-A-Hangar (jerb)
28. 03:47 PM - Re: marII twinstar (FlyColt45@aol.com)
29. 04:26 PM - Re: Re: IVO Prop Extension (Denny Rowe)
30. 06:01 PM - Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine (jerb)
31. 07:52 PM - Brass Nuts and Toggle Switches (James and Cathy Tripp)
32. 08:33 PM - Re: Brass Nuts and Toggle Switches (Bob N.)
33. 11:56 PM - Re: marII twinstar (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
I vote for a 4-stroke 40 to 50 HP for UL single place application.
jerb
At 06:38 PM 12/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ALEMBIC7@aol.com
>
>Don,
>If it's on a skymastyer, it sounds like it will be too big for most of our
>needs? (I want about 100hp, doesn't everyone?)
>AZ lurker
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
Nonsense! The Red Rider is sufficient. You only need to know where to
place the BB. BB placement is everything. I'm surrounded by amateurs.
Dave Rains
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: David & Maria Lumgair [SMTP:dlummy@visi.net]
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: tip for trip
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair" <dlummy@visi.net>
We used to say carry a revolver - large caliber - shoot the bear 5x - if it
doesn't stop #6 is for you. Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: tip for trip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Here is a tip for the Alaska trip. If one finds his or herself being
chased by grizzly bear, remember, you don't have to out run the bear!
> Only one other person in your party!!!!
>
> Paul Petty
> Building Ms. Dixie
> Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Honda Aircraft Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
There is no market for it. No one is buy ANY 40 hp engines. At least not
enough to justify making them. If you want 50 HP, well you're getting
pretty close to the nich that HKS is filling.
If there were a demand for them, they would make them, but there just isn't
enough demend to do it and do it right.
Tom Olenk
Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines
Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes
http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS
Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell......
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jerb
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
I vote for a 4-stroke 40 to 50 HP for UL single place application.
jerb
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
The Forest Service has issued a BEAR WARNING in the national forests for
this spring.
They're urging everyone to protect themselves by wearing small bells around
their ankles
to warn the bears of your presence - and carry pepper spray.
Campers should be alert for signs of fresh bear activity, and they should
be able to tell the
difference between Black Bear dung and Grizzly Bear dung. Black Bear dung
is rather
small and round. Sometimes you can see fruitseeds and/or squirrel fur in it.
Grizzly Bear dung has bells in it, and smells like pepper.
Do not archive
At 07:35 AM 12/29/2003, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> >
> > Here is a tip for the Alaska trip. If one finds his or herself being
>chased by grizzly bear, remember, you don't have to out run the bear!
> > Only one other person in your party!!!!
> >
> > Paul Petty
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RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 2.60, RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Does anyone have Dennis Souders e-mail address. Or if you read this post, Dennis,
Could you tell me if a Mark2 twinstar is capable of mounting and safely flying
a 912UL engine?
pp
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I've asked this before, and now hafta do *something.* I'm using the spam blocker
on Outlook Express, under "message," "create rule for message," and all it
seems to do is intensify the spam. Nearly 2,000 blocked addresses now, and still
getting over 200 spams a day, and nearly that many kicked directly into the
"deleted" file. A huge number from that "paris hilton" foolishness. This is
insane, and companies are defending their "right" to do this to us, while our
joyful politicians dither. I'd like to defend my right to strangle the bastards.
Some time ago, Don G. and a couple of others recommended
the "Postini" spam blocker, but looking at their website makes me think they're
aimed at commercial users. Is this true, or do they work with individuals
?? I thought about the Earthlink version, but I understand that you have to
enter the addresses you'll accept mail from. This is awkward for me, cause I
get many emails from website readers, off-line Kolb Listers, etc. I've gotta
do something, sports fans..................this is driving me loco.
Hair Pullin' Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Paris Hilton, eh? Sounds like Lar's been pullin' more than his hair.
Try opening something like a Juno account and use it for nothing but
email. -BB do not archive, off to senior league bowling on a beautiful
sunny 55+deg day in upstate NY, shame to go indoors.
Larry Bourne wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>I've asked this before, and now hafta do *something.* I'm using the spam blocker
on Outlook Express, under "message," "create rule for message," and all it
seems to do is intensify the spam. Nearly 2,000 blocked addresses now, and still
getting over 200 spams a day, and nearly that many kicked directly into the
"deleted" file. A huge number from that "paris hilton" foolishness. This
is insane, and companies are defending their "right" to do this to us, while our
joyful politicians dither. I'd like to defend my right to strangle the bastards.
Some time ago, Don G. and a couple of others recommended
the "Postini" spam blocker, but looking at their website makes me think they're
aimed at commercial users. Is this true, or do they work with individuals
?? I thought about the Earthlink version, but I understand that you have to
enter the addresses you'll accept mail from. This is awkward for me, cause
I get many emails from website readers, off-line Kolb!
> Listers, etc. I've gotta do something, sports fans..................this is
driving me loco. Hair Pullin' Lar.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
>www.gogittum.com
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Lar/Kolbers,
Me too. Not as many in number, but 50% of my e-mail is spam. (Not surfing
porn
sites, either). Lots of 'Viagra/Make your thingy bigger' type spam. I too use
Earthlink,
and their "SpamBlocker" is too cumbersome.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Spam
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I've asked this before, and now hafta do *something.* I'm using the spam blocker
on
Outlook Express, under "message," "create rule for message," and all it seems to
do is
intensify the spam. Nearly 2,000 blocked addresses now, and still getting over
200 spams
a day, and nearly that many kicked directly into the "deleted" file.
(Snip)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Spam
Your ISP should be able to block most of that. If not, I'd find another that
did.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: marII twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Paul,
I am not Dennis but I am sure The Mark II is NOT suited for the 912.
Kolb only used the 503 on the Mark II. Even the 582 will not fit and
still allow the wings to fold without major airframe changes. The Mark
II uses the 5" wing spar and fuse. with seven ribs same as the Firestar.
I am sure D. S. will never approve of using a 912 on a Mark II.
Paul Petty wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Does anyone have Dennis Souders e-mail address. Or if you read this post, Dennis,
Could you tell me if a Mark2 twinstar is capable of mounting and safely flying
a 912UL engine?
>
>
> pp
>
> do not archive
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Carr" <dcarr@uniontel.net>
My ISP offers "Postini" to its users at no charge and it works great. A few
spams get through but not many. A few valid emails get caught and held by
postini so I check the caught ones several times a day but that is easier
them sorting through spams online. Works for me!
DEC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Spam
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I've asked this before, and now hafta do *something.* I'm using the spam
blocker on Outlook Express, under "message," "create rule for message," and
all it seems to do is intensify the spam. Nearly 2,000 blocked addresses
now, and still getting over 200 spams a day, and nearly that many kicked
directly into the "deleted" file. A huge number from that "paris hilton"
foolishness. This is insane, and companies are defending their "right" to
do this to us, while our joyful politicians dither. I'd like to defend my
right to strangle the bastards. Some time ago, Don G. and
a couple of others recommended the "Postini" spam blocker, but looking at
their website makes me think they're aimed at commercial users. Is this
true, or do they work with individuals ?? I thought about the Earthlink
version, but I understand that you have to enter the addresses you'll accept
mail from. This is awkward for me, cause I get many emails from website
readers, off-line Kolb!
> Listers, etc. I've gotta do something, sports
fans..................this is driving me loco. Hair
Pullin' Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Dear Lar:
I can't offer you (or anyone) a recommendation for another spam blocker, but
I can offer you some advice, for what it's worth.
First, the Direct Marketing Association has a website where you can register
to have your name and other IDs, such as your email address, placed on a
do-not-contact list. When I last checked it was free. I did this with my
postal address, phone number, and email and it substantially reduced the
amount of junk mail/phone calls I get though of course I still get a few.
The bad news is that it can take up to 3 months for the registration to
"filter through" all the various companies that use DMA's listing. Here's
the website:
http://www.dmaconsumers.org/consumerassistance.html
Of course, only the more reputable firms do this, but it's a start and
really cut down the volume of traffic I have to deal with.
Secondly, using the method you described in Outlook Express isn't going to
block spam emails successfully, as you're discovering. What you're doing is
blocking each sender, one at a time, as you experience mail from it.
Unfortunately, many of these outfits use blind sites, which of course is why
they're spam, and don't use the sending address more than a day or two
before creating a new one. There's SOME relief, but it means you have to
study and anticipate the kinds of messages you get and build rules based on
the SUBJECT line. Here's where it gets hairy. For example, we've all
probably been bombarded by the "increase male performance" messages. So I
set up a rule that excluded anything mentioning Viagra. But then I started
getting messages touting v1agra. As I learned the tricks these bozos use,
I've had to keep updating my rules to include all sorts of drug names, body
part names, and so on. It's a pain, but at that I believe it's probably
taking me much less time in a week to update those rules than it's taking
you every day to block each message. It's the old, old story that as soon as
you make something idiot-proof, they come out with a better grade of idiot.
These spamming knuckleheads are constantly trying to find ways to get around
the blocking of people who don't want their messages. So we're constantly in
a reactive mode to their "attacks," not unlike the anti-virus software
companies. What's ironic to the max, at least to me, is this. If I don't
want your message, and you irritate me so much with them anyway, what in
blazes is the chance that I'll ever buy your product? In other words, all
the effort these screwballs put into getting around my express wishes to the
contrary is completely wasted. What a world.
Anyway, because some of the terms are offensive, I'm not going to post my
rule here, but I will send it to you offline and you can use it or ignore it
as you choose.
On the other hand, if you find a better spam "solution," please share it
with us!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Spam
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I've asked this before, and now hafta do *something.* I'm using the spam
blocker on Outlook Express, under "message," "create rule for message," and
all it seems to do is intensify the spam. Nearly 2,000 blocked addresses
now, and still getting over 200 spams a day, and nearly that many kicked
directly into the "deleted" file. A huge number from that "paris hilton"
foolishness. This is insane, and companies are defending their "right" to
do this to us, while our joyful politicians dither. I'd like to defend my
right to strangle the bastards. Some time ago, Don G. and
a couple of others recommended the "Postini" spam blocker, but looking at
their website makes me think they're aimed at commercial users. Is this
true, or do they work with individuals ?? I thought about the Earthlink
version, but I understand that you have to enter the addresses you'll accept
mail from. This is awkward for me, cause I get many emails from website
readers, off-line Kolb!
> Listers, etc. I've gotta do something, sports
fans..................this is driving me loco. Hair
Pullin' Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Paul,
I have owned two Twinstar Mark II's and agree whole heartily with
Eugene. I wouldn't consider putting the 912 engine on one. I didn't know
the 582/532 series of engines wouldn't work though. I have considered
putting one of these engines on the Mark II just for the additional
climb with two onboard, not more top speed. The 503 is barely enough
with two people at 190 pounds each.
Later,
John Cooley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eugene
Zimmerman
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: marII twinstar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
--> <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Paul,
I am not Dennis but I am sure The Mark II is NOT suited for the 912.
Kolb only used the 503 on the Mark II. Even the 582 will not fit and
still allow the wings to fold without major airframe changes. The Mark
II uses the 5" wing spar and fuse. with seven ribs same as the Firestar.
I am sure D. S. will never approve of using a 912 on a Mark II.
Paul Petty wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Does anyone have Dennis Souders e-mail address. Or if you read this
> post, Dennis, Could you tell me if a Mark2 twinstar is capable of
> mounting and safely flying a 912UL engine?
>
>
> pp
>
> do not archive
>
==
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: marII twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
I may start a "chit" storm here, but I have been known to do that. I rebuilt
a Twinstar for Adriel Hiessy a few moons ago. While I was rebuilding, I
added some structural tubes to the cage and he is using a 912 on his
twinstar now.
If the large bay between the landing gear and rear portion of the cage is
broken up with an additional X member and the rear Box is crossed braced it
will carry a 912. This only adds very few pounds of weight.
If any one is interested I have pic's of the changes I made to Adriels gage.
Jim Hauck
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Lar, here are some filtering programs that will work with Outlook Express,
you might want to try one of them.
http://www.outlookexpression.com/oe/spam/default.asp
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 08:50 AM 12/29/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>
> Listers, etc. I've gotta do something, sports
> fans..................this is driving me loco. Hair
> Pullin' Lar.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
>www.gogittum.com
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RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 2.60, RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Thanks guys. I'm convinced. I could not remember the size of John Cooley's airplane
and just as a thought, I was thinking of buying it and installing my 912
for Charley to fly to Alaska next summer.
pp
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - Spam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Lar, (little long but worth the read)
Give MailWasher a try - if it works for you send them a donation.
http://www.mailwasher.net/
The problem with most of the Spam Filters are they are just that filters -
the MailWasher software as allows you to bounce the message. Some of these
service do collect the bounces and after so many will remove your address
from there good address list. It will definitely shut down Yahoo Mail
Accounts if they receive more than so many bounces. No bounce means it
good and they keep pumping, renting, and selling it. The software allows
you to easily add spammer addresses to it's black list or friends
list. You can select for it to automatically delete know spam addresses -
it will then mark possible spams also. I've found it to be very effective
weeding out the good from the bad.
The next rule is "never, never" reply back to a spam message with a remove
option. That puts you on there know good address list - your address is
now worth even more. Spam is getting to be a problem - the ISP's could
help by adding the ability for subscribers to bounce messages but don't.
Another way addresses are collected are email chain letters - be surprised
how many people with good intentions want to share these things and offers
with all their friends. Your good friend adds all his friends addresses to
the To: or Cc: address field rather than the Bcc: field (blind copy). By
doing so your address then gets added to and is visible with the many
others on list. If the Bcc: field were used at least your addresses would
not show up on each copy. These are excellent ways for collectors to
obtain active addresses that they may not collect off group or mail list.
Newsgroup and mail list are another source of addresses for
collection. They use robots to collect addresses of group and mail list -
the newsgroup list they don't even have to subscribe to just scan messages
- mail groups they subscribe and collect addresses until their detected if
they ever are.
This is why I use two or more addresses - one for personal mail, the other
for use on list. I then have a filter set up to separate all inbox
messages and transfer them to the proper associated mail box based upon the
"subject title", example "Kolb-List: ". This works very well.
Last method is to shut off cookies - I use Norton Internet Security for
this feature. It does two things, it alerts you to things that you have
predetermined and entered as private information and alerts you if there is
an attempt to send out that information and when detected offers your the
selection of permitting or blocking it being sent. I also use the privacy
feature to disable sending cookies with my information - that is where many
web sites get your email address. Ever notice that you go surfing web
sites for say magazines - suddenly there after you bombarded with emails
related to magazine sites and subscriptions. That's how they get it. This
stuff gets maddening after a while.
I've found that the bouncing feature of MailWasher does help. It will not
kill all spammers but reduces the quantity you receive. Again I use at
least two email addresses - one for personal and one for play. Make them
more unique by adding two or three digits. There is a secondary reason for
this especially for your personal email address - if you should change
addresses, you might want it less likely for another follow on subscriber
to assume the same address. Some prior business sites will broadcast
messages to the address that contain password or private info. Wonder how
I know this, I was surprised businesses would blindly send messages to the
address containing that confidential information over a year later. Most
ISP's will only keep any released address inactive for 3-6 months at the
longest, some it's available immediately after you release it.
Some ISP's also have a internal address to which their subscribers can
forward email messages to for spam filtering. See it's to their advantage
to help kill it as it consumes their data storage and bandwidth resources.
So now you know how some of this works and a little of how to protect and
reduce you exposure.
jerb
do not archive
At 08:50 AM 12/29/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>I've asked this before, and now hafta do *something.* I'm using the spam
>blocker on Outlook Express, under "message," "create rule for message,"
>and all it seems to do is intensify the spam. Nearly 2,000 blocked
>addresses now, and still getting over 200 spams a day, and nearly that
>many kicked directly into the "deleted" file. A huge number from that
>"paris hilton" foolishness. This is insane, and companies are defending
>their "right" to do this to us, while our joyful politicians dither. I'd
>like to defend my right to strangle the bastards. Some
>time ago, Don G. and a couple of others recommended the "Postini" spam
>blocker, but looking at their website makes me think they're aimed at
>commercial users. Is this true, or do they work with individuals ?? I
>thought about the Earthlink version, but I understand that you have to
>enter the addresses you'll accept mail from. This is awkward for me,
>cause I get many emails from website readers, off-line Kolb!
> Listers, etc. I've gotta do something, sports
> fans..................this is driving me loco. Hair
> Pullin' Lar.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
>www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Mon Valley Dates |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kolb Friends -
I just got my Kitchen Pass for attending our 2004 Monument Valley
get-together!
I'll likely trailer my plane up from the Albuquerque area.
What are the generally-agreed on dates so far?
I recall seeing talk of 14-17 May (Fri-Mon). Is that still the plan?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, Verner-powered in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: marII twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Jim H, Gang
Speaking of cage mods...Brother John explained to me once that the FireFly
front half of the cage was the same as the original FireStar...or something
like that..I cant remember zactly...now...what mods..if any..do you think
might be needed on the back half to make a Firefly save to carry a 503...or
maybe a 582...??
or is that getting going to far?. The goal would be only to get about 10 or
15 mph more cruise so as to be able to keep up in flight with the fellas who
cruise at 70 or so...My FireFly will run that fast now...but it is about
stem wound at that speed...and I sure would like to go along on some of the
cruises that the boys go...but dont want to overtax my engine.
cant quite keep up!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: markII twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Don/All,
I've got a MkII/503 that will someday go in for a restoration. If I find
it can't
keep up with my pals, I think I'd go to a Mk3 rather than all the guesswork of
reengineering for an engine it wasn't designed for. I'd never second-guess Homer,
plus I
like having some options (912, 914, Hirth, VW, etc.). Just my .02 worth.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: marII twinstar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Jim H, Gang
>
> Speaking of cage mods...Brother John explained to me once that the FireFly
> front half of the cage was the same as the original FireStar...or something
> like that..I cant remember zactly...now...what mods..if any..do you think
> might be needed on the back half to make a Firefly save to carry a 503...or
> maybe a 582...??
> or is that getting going to far?.
(Snip)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Jerb...Tom....
This just shows how much I know also...I am with Jerb...in thinking that a
great 40 horse 4 stroke would be just the ticket....But Tom has the
expierience of a fella in the biz of supplying engines to this market....and
I know he is right as I have heard this from other sources...50 hp is about
the minimum size that gets ant attention anymore....I dont understand
it...just dont seem right...and I cant figger out why!!!!
Maybe if the SPort pilot rule actually causes the ultralights to become more
legal by registering all the "heavies", and the "gap" between registered and
non-registered widens this would change, and "true" part 103 UL's become
more than just the prototype that a manufacturer builds for the entry level
model, with most sales goping to the "heavies"...but somehow I just dont
think so...I kinda think it has to do with the ability to enforce the
rules...and I do see yet how the new rulings will change this other than on
2 seaters.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | FW: Honda Aircraft Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Tom O,
Your right Honda couldn't produce a small engine at a competitive price.
You say their is no market for a 40-50 HP engine. I'm not so sure about
that. Do you recall Amtech's Buddy Twin - it had a lot of interest at Sun
& Fun - however they made some radical changes from what they presented one
year to their next appearance two years later and ended up missing the
target. If they would have moved forward with what they originally
presented, they could have gone head to head with Rotax and captured a good
portion of the small engine market.
The ThunderChieft Citron conversion had a lot of promise as a small engine
for the UL's especially tractor configuration. It was compact, had all the
goodies (starter, generator). It's too bad they never finished the
development. They were on the right track.
One of the sleeper is the Constant Pressure engine - they could have a
significant influence if they ever get it out. They were also working on
an retro-fit kit for the VW. Could their crank technology be applied to
the 1/2-VW to reduce it's balance issue, it could be a significant
factor. Of coarse what their end products weighs and cost will be the issue.
Last I guess is the Needleye engine. It coming along but still not here
and like any other new engine expect there to be teething problems until it
is field proven. Right now they have 170 flight hours on one of the
development engines. Could put a little competitive pressure on the
HKS. It may be a little heavier but then again if you add up the weight
with all the hoses, coil cooler, tanks, etc, they may be very close in
actual weight.
jerb
At 09:46 AM 12/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation"
><olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
>
>There is no market for it. No one is buy ANY 40 hp engines. At least not
>enough to justify making them. If you want 50 HP, well you're getting
>pretty close to the nich that HKS is filling.
>
>If there were a demand for them, they would make them, but there just isn't
>enough demend to do it and do it right.
>
>Tom Olenk
>Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
>Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines
>Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes
>http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
>Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS
>Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell......
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jerb
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
>I vote for a 4-stroke 40 to 50 HP for UL single place application.
>jerb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mon Valley Dates |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Dennis K/All (that are interested):
I believe 14 through 17 May 2004 is correct.
I will probably fly through Sandia East to say hello to the owner/manager of
the airport. Mike, I think that is his name. Was really hospitable to me
when I came through there and spent the night last year.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Oh that hurt - took a little fall this weekend and severally bruised some
ribs - when I read that last line it hurt..... good one... 8
)
jerb
At 10:49 AM 12/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
>
>The Forest Service has issued a BEAR WARNING in the national forests for
>this spring.
>They're urging everyone to protect themselves by wearing small bells around
>their ankles
>to warn the bears of your presence - and carry pepper spray.
>Campers should be alert for signs of fresh bear activity, and they should
>be able to tell the
>difference between Black Bear dung and Grizzly Bear dung. Black Bear dung
>is rather
>small and round. Sometimes you can see fruitseeds and/or squirrel fur in it.
>
>Grizzly Bear dung has bells in it, and smells like pepper.
>
>Do not archive
>
>At 07:35 AM 12/29/2003, you wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
> > >
> > > Here is a tip for the Alaska trip. If one finds his or herself being
> >chased by grizzly bear, remember, you don't have to out run the bear!
> > > Only one other person in your party!!!!
> > >
> > > Paul Petty
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop Extension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
I am considering installing a 3 blade IVO on my 503 for a Firestar II. I
understand from an archive search that an extension is recommended. What is
the best length and where do you purchase an extension.?
Vic
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
OK...OK....easy now men....Jerb is right!....To all who have sent me the
notices about his post..of course I read it.
And no I am not gonna set him straight...think about it.
Honda is almost as big as General motors The only way a company of this size
can produce anything effieciently is in large volume.
Yes...Honda's ability and technology probably enables then to produce the
most advanced engines in the world..but to be able to market them
successfully, we need a very large market.
YES, as some have said...
snip<<< look at the price of those v-twins..I just got a Northern tool
catalogue in the mail and a 24hp V-twin is 1399.00>>>>....
Snip<<<<no reason Honda couldnt give us a 40 hp engine that would last
longer than anything out there for half the price of a Rotax, or a 50 hp for
alot less than the HKS>>>>...
YA...I know all this....but here is the deal, and I have said it
before...the market is too small... Honda can produce 100,000 engines better
and cheaper than anybody else on the planet...but there is no way that Honda
could produce a dozen engines anywhere close to the cost that a small "Mom &
Pop" shop could....or even a1000...and I doubt that at the 10,000 engine
level Honda could make em cheaper than what is on the market already.
Think of it this way men....if Kolb sent NASA....or General Motors... a
FireFly kit...do you think that they could put it it together cheaper than
you could in you shop at home? Of course not...maybe they could assemble
10,000 FireFly kits cheaper than you or I could at home...because of the
production tecnology they have ...I really dont know where the volume
numbers must cross with the market prices, and many other details I study
every day...but for Honda,,it is a bigger Number than the whole
UL/microlight/little airplane market is worldwide.
So..Jerb is correct .
<<<Your right Honda couldn't produce a small engine at a competitive
price.>>> SNIP/.......as long as the market is so small....
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Hey has anyone noticed the Haul-A-Hangar that serves the purpose of a
enclosed trailer and a hangar once at site. A neat concept. Might be
worth looking into.
http://www.ultralightflyer.com/haulahangar/index.htm
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: marII twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FlyColt45@aol.com
I know a few friends that have 503's on their MKIIs. One of them routinely
hauled his chunky self and other beefy guys with no problems at all! It is
certainty enough power. I had a 583 on mine and probably never needed it. My
2
cents! (sorry Dick : )
Jim Cote
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop Extension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
@vcn.com>
>
> I am considering installing a 3 blade IVO on my 503 for a Firestar II. I
> understand from an archive search that an extension is recommended. What
is
> the best length and where do you purchase an extension.?
>
> Vic
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Ivo makes and sells extensions for their props, they are the most
economicle around.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Honda Aircraft Engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Don,
You have to keep this into perspective - Tom can sell only what he can get
and make money on. Rotax no longer makes the 277 and judging by his recent
post sounds like Rotax is trying to make things difficult for him. He
began to push some 2Si but now that gig went South. What's left - Hirth,
Rotax or HKS. If you noticed he's now talking up the HKS. For smaller
engines the 447 is a good engine but unless weight is an issue even my self
I would go to the 503 for the benefit of the dual ignition and oil
injection. The extra power is secondary. I have plenty of power on my
Hawk with the 447 but many people like me would like a 4-stroke engine.
I need an engine for my ThunderGull - 40 HP would be perfect - 50 would be
OK. I would like a 4 stroke with minimum plumbing. Weight is also
important. Other than the HKS, there is nothing there and thus they have no
competition and can keep prices high. By the time you get all the
necessary add ons to implement it, the cost exceeds $7000. I have a hard
time forking over that much for a 2 cylinder engine but whom am I to argue
since others are.
As result I've begun researching the small 4 cylinder military surplus
engines. There is one that would fit and cost me less than half to
implement - new $1500 - rebuilt $900. I can do a new engine and add prop
and everything needed for less than $3000. I am seriously considering
one. There proving to be nice engines for the small aircraft especially
those needing a engine for a tractor configuration like the Hipps, Sky
Raider, or N3-Pup. The also work well in the pusher configuration.
I feel the Sport Pilot Category is causing everyone to run towards the
rainbow. "If" it comes out, there will be a demand for larger engines -
the present HKS will not satisfy the HP demand. Jabiru and Rotax are
better positioned with it's 80 and 100/120 HP offerings. What I'm afraid
of is that the compliance portion being put together by the manufacturers
has embedded complexity to make them money and thus is going to be to quite
costly going the same route as GA aircraft. There's going to be a lot of
discouraged people once things shake loose and they see the end results
$$$. This may severely damage those same manufacturers that have been
supporting the UL category and may cause them to collapse. The only thing
in their favor is the drivers license medical required to operate a two
place.
jerb. . . .still need small 4-stroke
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At 03:02 PM 12/29/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
>Jerb...Tom....
>
>This just shows how much I know also...I am with Jerb...in thinking that a
>great 40 horse 4 stroke would be just the ticket....But Tom has the
>expierience of a fella in the biz of supplying engines to this market....and
>I know he is right as I have heard this from other sources...50 hp is about
>the minimum size that gets ant attention anymore....I dont understand
>it...just dont seem right...and I cant figger out why!!!!
>
>Maybe if the SPort pilot rule actually causes the ultralights to become more
>legal by registering all the "heavies", and the "gap" between registered and
>non-registered widens this would change, and "true" part 103 UL's become
>more than just the prototype that a manufacturer builds for the entry level
>model, with most sales goping to the "heavies"...but somehow I just dont
>think so...I kinda think it has to do with the ability to enforce the
>rules...and I do see yet how the new rulings will change this other than on
>2 seaters.
>
>Don Gherardini
>FireFly 098
>http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
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| Subject: | Brass Nuts and Toggle Switches |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Questions for the list:
1. Instruments are screwed onto the panel with black oxide brass screws. I found
the screws I need but what about the nuts? Does anyone have a part number or
source for brass nuts or do you use something else?
2. I'm also looking for what type of toggle switch to use for the master switch
and power switches to accessories like fuel pump, EIS, mag kill, com, strobes,
etc.
I'm not that smart on electronics (OK, I'm not all that smart period) so any tips
would be greatly appreciated.
James Tripp
FSII, still painting
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| Subject: | Re: Brass Nuts and Toggle Switches |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Try Aircraft Spruce for most stuff homebuilders need. Also LEAF.
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: marII twinstar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Could be that it's how the individual feels. I flew a 503 powered Mk II
about 6 yrs ago, with a 240 lb instructor. Add in my 200 lbs, and I was
very glad we were at El Mirage dry lake, with about 7 miles of "runway."
Climb was very slow, and stall, cruise, and top speeds were so close
together that I felt like we were right on the edge, the whole time we were
flying. It didn't hurt my feelings a bit to get out of THAT airplane.
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <FlyColt45@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: marII twinstar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: FlyColt45@aol.com
>
> I know a few friends that have 503's on their MKIIs. One of them
routinely
> hauled his chunky self and other beefy guys with no problems at all! It
is
> certainty enough power. I had a 583 on mine and probably never needed it.
My 2
> cents! (sorry Dick : )
> Jim Cote
>
>
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