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1. 12:15 AM - Re: The Smell of Poly Brush in the Evening (Larry Bourne)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: The Smell of Poly Brush in the Evening (Jim Ballenger)
3. 07:55 AM - Daddy Like (Mike Pierzina)
4. 08:40 AM - spam (boyd young)
5. 09:05 AM - Upgrading from Cheng Shin to Titan Turf Glide tires (Airgriff2@aol.com)
6. 11:12 AM - the smell of polybrush in the evening (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
7. 12:05 PM - Test (Ron or Mary Payne)
8. 01:20 PM - Re: the smell of polybrush in the evening (John Williamson)
9. 01:59 PM - Re: Dril bits 101 (GeoR38@aol.com)
10. 04:29 PM - Re: Propellor change (Thom Riddle)
11. 05:25 PM - Re: Dril bits 101 (jerb)
12. 05:36 PM - Re: Propellor change (jerb)
13. 06:16 PM - Drill bit (Bill Vincent)
14. 07:37 PM - Prop tips (Terry)
15. 08:54 PM - Re: Intake silencer (Richard Pike)
16. 09:56 PM - Re: Prop tips (Don Gherardini)
17. 11:49 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: The Smell of Poly Brush in the Evening |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
337.6 hours in one year ! ! ! That hasta be some kinda record, John. Good
on you. Uh............does your wife still recognize you ?? :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Kolb Mk III - Vamoose N78LB
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: The Smell of Poly Brush in the Evening
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> > All things considered, 2003 was a pretty good year. The Kolbra flew
337.6
> hours, landed in 48 states, took me to some great places where I met some
> super Kolb flyers and builders. Hope 2004 can live up to this year!
>
> Happy New Year.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The Smell of Poly Brush in the Evening |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
John
You sure did fly alot last year. I added my hours up and got a measly 36.9
on the FireStar. Although, I do have a couple of excuses for not flying a
whole lot, like building the MKIII X, making a living , family and Isabel,
I hope to get more hours in the air this year.
Happy New Year All
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: The Smell of Poly Brush in the Evening
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
>> All things considered, 2003 was a pretty good year. The Kolbra flew 337.6
> hours, landed in 48 states, took me to some great places where I met some
> super Kolb flyers and builders. Hope 2004 can live up to this year!
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Take a look at this Site....I haven't been able to get pictures on the
matrix but I've got PAGES at this site....I can write discriptions,receive comments....
I sorta use it like a WEB PAGE... ( I haven't been able to make
a web page either )
It's NOT going to replace the matrix but it would be handy to use WITH it...Here's
a couple of my pages, Their my Trim Colors on my Firestar II.
( Hey John, Thanks for the compliment..U2 Big Lar )
http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&si=&thumb=1&page=2&sort=1&perpage=12&ppuser=616&stype
http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&si=&thumb=1&page=1&sort=1&perpage=12&ppuser=616&stype
I think your gona like it...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
PS: Big Lar, this is the site I was telling you about.
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Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
ok guys.... i have tried twice to show how to post the mail link and have the
subject line allready filled in, and parts of the code are still being processed....
best to go to the webpage and view the source code.. if anyone would
like more info let me know.
boyd
>(
>)() (herf)()(")mailto:by0ung@brigham.net(?)subject()kolb, webpage comment(")(>)Boyd()keep "kolb" >in the subject line.
>you will have to remove all of the ( ) they were included so the software
>would not act on the code
> or you could go to my page http://www.brigham.net/~byoung and click on "view" "source"
>boyd
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| Subject: | Upgrading from Cheng Shin to Titan Turf Glide tires |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
I know there has been different discussions in the past on tires but I want
to add my experiences on changing mine over this past week, which may help
others. After 9 yrs. and 1100+ t/o and landings, my original 6.00 x 6 Cheng Shins
were about worn out and needed replacing. I decided to go after more of a
real looking aircraft tire and chose the Titan Turf Glide as I like the tread,
size, shape, and general looks of it. It is 8.00 x 6 and mounted on my Matco
rims they stand about 17" tall. After removing the brake set up and axel, I
spent about a 1/2 hr with screw drivers, tire irons, hammers, and jumping up &
down on the tire trying to seperate the tire from the rims. Being by myself, I
decided to not try the deal with a 2x4 lying on the tire and driving on it with
my car. Oh well, off to the local (family owned) tire shop. Took the fella
about 30 seconds each to pop the tires off the rims using the machine with the
blade pushing on the tire. Refused to take a penny so I said I'll see you
when the car needs tires and he said "thank you". Once home, I cleaned the rims
with "Goop" to remove old rubber residue, installed the new tubes, coated the
rims and tire beads with soapy water and brought on the air. Thanks to John
Hauck doing all the trial and error with the tire pressures on the MK 3, I'll
go right ahead with the 6-8 lbs. A couple of problems I ran into were: when
bolting the two rim halves back together, there are 6 bolts. 3 go through the
rims and 3 go through the rims and into the aluminium part that has the
bearings. I put the 3 through the rims and then tried to align the other 3 with
the
aluminium part. Big mistake. Do it the other way around. Even after trying to
enlarge the holes to bolt the al. part on, I walked away, had a cup of coffee
and the light went on in my head,"Hey dummy, bolt the al. part on first". The
other thing was that the tubes came with 90 degree bent air valves. They seem
to work ok but I need to pull them away from the rim to get the air chuck onto
them. Probably a valve with less of an angle would have worked better. Won't
get to try them out until nicer weather comes.
Happy New Year to all on the list
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | the smell of polybrush in the evening |
01/01/2004 02":11:59.PM@matronics.com,
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Serialize by Router on SMTP102/URSCorp(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
John W.:
Nice work!
Tell us what the panel is that appears in your pictures to be mounted
directly above your new gas tank. Also, in your photo no. 1468, there is a
small box that looks like it is directly below the front lord mount for the
engine. What is that?
Happy new year. See you in May.
Erich Weaver
erich_weaver@urscorp.com
130 Robin Hill Road, Suite 100
Santa Barbara, California 93117
Tel: 805-964-6010
fax: 805-964 0259
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron or Mary Payne" <whyme@vci.net>
Just a test
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: the smell of polybrush in the evening |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Erich and all,
Looking forward to the Monument Valley gathering. It is my inspiration to
this thing finished and right.
The panel on the left side is the old fuel filler access, I haven't made the
cut-out so the door will work yet. The panel on the right side is where the
new filler port is.
The small aluminum box under the forward right side lord mount I use to
weather proof two electrical connectors that connect the engine wiring
harness to the airframe harness. (A Radio Shack product)
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
no not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Dril bits 101 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 12/31/03 8:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, HShack@aol.com
writes:
> SHARPEN THEM....it's not that hard. If you have that many bad
> ones,experiment !
> Yes, it's harder to sharpen those tiny bits, but if it isn't working,
> sharpen it again...
>
>
> It's a little expensive at around $80, but Lowe's carries the "Drill Doctor"
> which does a really good job of sharpening drill bits.
>
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
Howard, you may be right, but I just got a drill sharpener from Harbor
Frieght in Houston and I must say it sucks for sharpening SMALL bits....er ....
maybe I need a bunch more practice.....I am forced to do them buy hand. And their
instructions are either wrong or very confusing. I know about the proper
angle and cleanout angle etc, but I have gotten very poor results on this lil 115
volt cantankerous puppy.
George RAndolph
firestar driver from Akron/ The Villages, Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Terry,
Can you educate us a bit more on the details of the prop tip changes? How about
a before and after picture? You can email me direct if you want or show the whole
list.
Thom in Buffalo
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Dril bits 101 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
George,
Take it back to Harbor freight and get a refund.
Go to Lowe's and get a Drill Doctor - they have two models - you just
missed their sale just before Christmas. The more expensive model works
really well, males some operations even easier plus it can do a few other
things. Talk to the Tool Dept sales associate about both units. He should
be able to explain the differences and benefits of each.
jerb
At 04:59 PM 1/1/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 12/31/03 8:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, HShack@aol.com
>writes:
>
>
> > SHARPEN THEM....it's not that hard. If you have that many bad
> > ones,experiment !
> > Yes, it's harder to sharpen those tiny bits, but if it isn't working,
> > sharpen it again...
> >
> >
> > It's a little expensive at around $80, but Lowe's carries the "Drill
> Doctor"
> > which does a really good job of sharpening drill bits.
> >
> >
> > Howard Shackleford
> > FS II
> > SC
> >
>
>Howard, you may be right, but I just got a drill sharpener from Harbor
>Frieght in Houston and I must say it sucks for sharpening SMALL bits....er
>....
>maybe I need a bunch more practice.....I am forced to do them buy hand.
>And their
>instructions are either wrong or very confusing. I know about the proper
>angle and cleanout angle etc, but I have gotten very poor results on this
>lil 115
>volt cantankerous puppy.
>
>George RAndolph
>firestar driver from Akron/ The Villages, Fl
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Terry,
What kind of RPM are you running where you picked up the 4 MPH?
During take off at full throttle what RPM are you seeing?
Has your fuel burn changed, if so from what to what?
Think this would work on a IVO two blade prop?
Thanks for the info,
jerb
At 11:58 AM 12/30/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
>
>I have made an alteration to my two blade wood prop that has
>produced amazing results, at least as far as I'm concerned. I
>know that I'm in a minority when it comes to props, being a
>traditionalist who needs the wood. But for any others of a
>similar affliction out there I thought I would pass along what I
>experienced.
>
>I was talking to the local RC Model store guy and we got on how
>many of the more advanced ideas in aircraft are first tried out
>on models. He told me one of their biggest concerns was noise
>which can lead to loss of flying fields. Then he told me how the
>new props had really helped to cut down the noise and at the same
>time increase performance. My ears perked up big time! He
>showed me the new wood props made by Top Flight with their Power
>Point tips. I took one look and thought, wow, maybe I could do
>that to my 66 inch Tennessee prop.
>
>The idea is to reduce the tip vortex's that cause the noise and
>steal efficiency. I think it's the same idea behind the Prince
>Prop's except this is a simpler solution. This may not be new,
>but it is too me!!
>
>Anyway, I considered this for some time. Took the measurements
>off a large Top Flight prop and proceeded to mark off my prop and
>cut the tips. My friend watched me hesitate several times before
>actual cutting, realizing I may be ruining a perfectly good
>prop. Next I spent a week balancing and refinishing the tips and
>couldn't wait to try it. The weather conspired against me for
>another week and finally got to try it two days before Christmas.
>
>As the engine first fired up I noticed immediately how much
>quieter it was. After climbing in and taking off I found it was
>like being in a new airplane. Different sound altogether. Had
>been warned by the owner of Tennessee Props that the upper rpm
>might increase, but that didn't happen. Now after putting
>several hr.'s on it I find I have to readjust my flying for the
>improved performance, such as cruise and landing rpm's. I think
>I've gained about 4 mph at cruise with a fuel burn of around 2
>gph. I now have to throttle back more on decent for landing.
>
>This was done to a Tennessee Prop, 66 x 30 with urethane leading
>edge. So much gain for so little change to me is amazing!
>
>Hope this is of some interest to the list,
>
>Terry - FireFly # 95, Rotax 447, 255 hr.'s
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
My 2 cents worth
I have been working in a metal fabricating shop for 32 years and
have sharpened many drill bits by hand.
One thing I have learned over the years is there is a clearance on each
side of the spiral, running from the
shank to the cutting edge, leaving only about .062 of an inch on the
side of the spiral.
It is hard to see, but if this clearance is wore down near the
cutting edge it will cause binding and
an under size hole.
I recommend squaring off the bit before sharpening to get rid of this
worn spot. Also the more the bit is
sharpened and the shorter it gets, the spade will get wide in the
center. It will have to be ground
narrower. I have found that a drill bit will last a long time .
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Thom, jerb,
I wish I could post pictures for you, but as I stated earlier I
don't have a scanner and I'm using an old windows 95 computer as
of now. Have taken a couple of pictures, but still have the film
in the camera. If you want a good close up of what I did, just
visit your nearest model airplane shop and look at the new Top
Flight wood props for RC's. That's where I got my idea from and
the dimensions! I did try my best to describe what I did on an
earlier post.
I'm experiencing the 4 mph gain at cruise, which for me is at
5,000 to 5,200 rpm. The fuel burn is still the same at
approximately 2 gph. This is not the reason I made the change.
My intent was to eliminate prop noise, which it has done and the
reason the RC boys are using this design. It worked better than
expected on my full size prop!!! The gain in performance is just
a side benefit. Hope this answers some of your questions!
Now, a question for the list. Have any of you had any experience
with an intake silencer for the carb. I'm thinking that may be
my next step. Since making the alterations to the prop tips,
most of what I'm hearing is coming out of the carb. When I turn
my head to the right towards the carb, I get more noise than
when I turn my head to the left towards the muffler. Just
thinking of reducing another source of noise and increasing my
comfort zone! Guy's at the airport I fly into say I am already
much quieter then other 2 stroke UL's.
On a personal note, I got to fly today, the first day of 2004.
It was cold but worth every minute! Maybe I should build that
full enclosure? Nah!!!!!!!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: Intake silencer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Had one for my Rotax 277 on my Hummer years ago, was very effective, slight
power loss.
Tried it on a Rotax 503 and experienced a bit more noticable power loss.
Depending on if you can afford to give up a bit of power, it will probably
do what you want.
If I keep my 582 (I have a possibility going on a 912) that will be my next
project, however I will attempt to build my own, I am not convinced that
the one Rotax supplies is what I want, since I am not willing to give up
any power.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 10:38 PM 1/1/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
<snip>
> Have any of you had any experience
>with an intake silencer for the carb. I'm thinking that may be
>my next step. Since making the alterations to the prop tips,
>most of what I'm hearing is coming out of the carb. When I turn
>my head to the right towards the carb, I get more noise than
>when I turn my head to the left towards the muffler. Just
>thinking of reducing another source of noise and increasing my
>comfort zone! Guy's at the airport I fly into say I am already
>much quieter then other 2 stroke UL's.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Terry, Ill tell ya what..I built by Fly with the full windsheild...and no
rear enclosure(had it in the box..but never put it on)...I tried the short
windsheild for a week...lost about 8 or 9 mph...got a stiff neck ....now I
have that a full enclosure back on on my FireFly, including the rear wrap
..I doubt if I will ever go back to the short sheild. And the way the Kolb
purchased rear part of the enclosure fits up...there is absolutly no wind at
all..none..zip...It is so much more comfortable. the only thing I dont
like...is I cant loosen the shoulder strap and reach forward to the
panel..because my head hits before my finger reachs ...no biggie really...as
I put all needed switchs on a side panel and the gps mount extends the unit
about 4 inchs aft..which is just right.
Better fuel economy and faster....dont know what else i couild ask for! It
does not seem lke it is worth the money when you look at it in the box...but
a fella can spend a whole lot more looking for 8 to 9 mph.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
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controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
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