---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/16/04: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:06 AM - Warp Drive on ebay (Richard Pike) 2. 08:31 AM - Virus (Dale Sellers) 3. 08:46 AM - Re: Virus (Robert Laird) 4. 09:07 AM - Re: Virus (John Hauck) 5. 09:07 AM - Re: Vistit w/ Will U. (Gherkins Tim-rp3420) 6. 09:35 AM - Re: Virus (Dale Sellers) 7. 09:51 AM - Re: Virus (ul15rhb@juno.com) 8. 10:22 AM - Re: Virus (The Kuffels) 9. 10:50 AM - Re: Virus (Boss) 10. 10:53 AM - Re: Trojans and Spyware (Richard Pike) 11. 11:03 AM - Re: Virus (Dale Sellers) 12. 11:53 AM - Re: Virus (The Kuffels) 13. 12:22 PM - Re: Virus (Boss) 14. 03:08 PM - Higher Speed Kolb Mod (John Williamson) 15. 03:36 PM - Re: Higher Speed Kolb Mod (John Hauck) 16. 04:04 PM - Re: Higher Speed Kolb Mod (Denny Rowe) 17. 05:35 PM - Re: Visting the Milows (WillUribe@aol.com) 18. 05:58 PM - Re: Visting the Milows (Larry Bourne) 19. 06:05 PM - Re: Higher Speed Kolb Mod (Larry Bourne) 20. 06:27 PM - Re: Visting the Milows (jam'n) 21. 11:04 PM - Vamoose (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:36 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Warp Drive on ebay --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike There is a taper tip 3 blade 68" Warp on ebay. Rotation will work on a 912, but not a Rotax 2 stroke. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:58 AM PST US From: "Dale Sellers" Subject: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" Caution Kolbers, I picked up a virus from the Kolb list that destroyed my hard drive beyond repair. The name of the virus is Trojan. I am posting from a new machine because of this virus. I have Norton anti-virus but it got through. I believe there might be those who would intentionally plant such a virus. Be Careful! I know this isn't Kolb related but important. Dale Sellers do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:31 AM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird It's highly unlikely you got it from the Kolb-List... all attachments are stripped. Someone can send email to your address so that it LOOKS like it's from the Kolb-List, but if it has an attachment, it's not from the Kolb-List. NEVER open ANY attachment unless you are 100% sure you know who it's from and what's in it. -- Robert At 10:31 AM 1/16/2004, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > >Caution Kolbers, > >I picked up a virus from the Kolb list that destroyed my hard drive beyond >repair. >The name of the virus is Trojan. > >I am posting from a new machine because of this virus. I have Norton >anti-virus but it got through. > >I believe there might be those who would intentionally plant such a >virus. Be Careful! > >I know this isn't Kolb related but important. > >Dale Sellers >do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:42 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > I believe there might be those who would intentionally plant such a virus. Be Careful! > > I know this isn't Kolb related but important. > > Dale Sellers Dale/All: That is a very serious accusation. There may be some of us on the Kolb List you don't like, but I doubt any would stoop that low. My computer gets attacked every day, and much more frequently the last week or so, by virus. Sometimes it looks like they come from friends, when in fact they do not. Since the Kolb List will not accept attachments, I doubt very seriously you got your virus from the List. The individual would have to send the virus another route and you would have to open the attachment. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:42 AM PST US From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Vistit w/ Will U. --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 Will, It was good to see you again and thanks for the kind comments. Lar, to answer your question- we painted a little desert scene on one of the stripes on the port wing, just like on the nose of the Mark III Xtra. At first from a distance people think it is a bad paint run, but on closer inspection you see a Yucca plant with saguaro cactus intermingled with some pear cactus. People like it and ask how we do it? We reply with, "oh, that is how paint runs here in Arizona". On a serious note, Will Uribe fesses up to us that he will be going under the knife this Monday to have a stomach tumor removed. Folks that open thoracic surgery! So Will will be losing a few pounds before the monument valley trip---- Will, the best of luck with you, and you are in our thoughts and prayers. Forgive me of telling your secret, but with many more of us on the KOLB list aware, the greater the support. Take care, Tim and Uncle Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Visting the Millows --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Uncle Craig and Tim It was nice to see your Kolbs in person yesterday afternoon. You sure have put a lot of work into the FireStar and MK III. I especially liked the Arizona paint runs. I have never seen paint runs like that. Keep up the good work and I will keep tabs on your progress via your webpage. Looks like the FireStar will be ready for the Monument Valley gathering and I'm sure your MK III will be flying before Big Lar's MK III. (Sorry couldn't resist) Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C172 N2506U do not archive. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:38 AM PST US From: "Dale Sellers" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" It is my opinion that the virus came in with one of the referenced web sites included with a post. I'm not acusing anyone of anything but there has been a considerable amount of animocity here of late. One never knows what will happen when things get heated. I sincerely hope this is not the case but at the time it happened I did not go to any sites except those included with a post. I lost everything, bookmarks, addresses, stored documents as well as many pictures stored on my computer. I was running windows 98. what the virus did was, every time I went online, it started opening sites and downloaded data until my C drive was full wnd would not run anything because of no resourses. I went into DOS and formated the C drive and attempted to reload 98 but was unsucessful. I just hope this doesn't happen to anyone else. Dale Sellers do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > > I believe there might be those who would intentionally plant such a > virus. Be Careful! > > > > I know this isn't Kolb related but important. > > > > Dale Sellers > > Dale/All: > > That is a very serious accusation. > > There may be some of us on the Kolb List you don't like, but I doubt any > would stoop that low. > > My computer gets attacked every day, and much more frequently the last week > or so, by virus. Sometimes it looks like they come from friends, when in > fact they do not. > > Since the Kolb List will not accept attachments, I doubt very seriously you > got your virus from the List. The individual would have to send the virus > another route and you would have to open the attachment. > > Take care, > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus From: ul15rhb@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com Dale and others, Sometimes people will blame a virus for a computer problem. Not every computer problem is caused by a virus. A virus does not destroy a hard drive, just the information on that drive. If the hard drive is good but the operating system is dead, it can be formatted and the software replaced. I have never had a virus in all the years I've had a computer while on the kolb list. I do not have any virus protection on this machine and I surf everyday on the web. Not bragging, but it's true. One reason might be due the limited bandwidth using a dialup system. This might be an advantage for dialup users. If it ever quits, I will format the drive and restore it. Keep your windows startup disk handy and backups for everything just in case. Ralph Original Firestar 17 years flying it -- "Dale Sellers" wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" Caution Kolbers, I picked up a virus from the Kolb list that destroyed my hard drive beyond repair. The name of the virus is Trojan. I am posting from a new machine because of this virus. I have Norton anti-virus but it got through. I believe there might be those who would intentionally plant such a virus. Be Careful! I know this isn't Kolb related but important. Dale Sellers do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:50 AM PST US From: The Kuffels Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels do not archive Dale, <> I'm no expert on viruses but, if your description is correct, the one who destroyed all the data was Dale Sellers, not the virus per se. It appears this virus is a local disk version of a "denial of service" attack. Overload the resource so it can't be used. If so, the solution would have been to boot DOS from floppy (everyone has a boot disk ready don't they?) and delete the extraneous files until Windows will boot from disk. Then you are in a position to hunt down the virus and clean up the disk. The moral of this story is when things start to go bad, stop and get professional help. The cost is worth every penny (well, every C note). Must agree with John H. It is very unlikely you got this virus from the Kolb list or any link in a Kolb list message. Web sites have permanent addresses which can not be made anonymous. Thus any hanky panky can be traced back to the owner/creator who is liable for damages. This is the reason emails are the preferred infection vector. Some other possibilities are 1) If you use Internet Explorer instead of Netscape there are a few Microsoft "features" which can be attacked from an open email without opening any attachments. However, bet Matt filters this out. Microsoft may have fixed this security weakness by now if you have the latest version if IE. Then again, IE for Windows 98 may not have been updated. 2) If you have children who also use your computer, they tend to swap floppys and CDs with games, data and unwanted extras. Sorry about your loss. It's no fun. Tom Kuffel ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:12 AM PST US From: "Boss" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Boss" Answer me this. Why does anyone enter these groups without virus protection and having their files backed up? Sort of like going to a whorehouse without anything IMHO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Kuffels" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus > --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels > > do not archive > > Dale, > > < was full .. I went into DOS and formatted the C drive>> > > I'm no expert on viruses but, if your description is correct, the one > who destroyed all the data was Dale Sellers, not the virus per se. It > appears this virus is a local disk version of a "denial of service" > attack. Overload the resource so it can't be used. If so, the solution > would have been to boot DOS from floppy (everyone has a boot disk ready > don't they?) and delete the extraneous files until Windows will boot > from disk. Then you are in a position to hunt down the virus and clean > up the disk. > > The moral of this story is when things start to go bad, stop and get > professional help. The cost is worth every penny (well, every C note). > > Must agree with John H. It is very unlikely you got this virus from the > Kolb list or any link in a Kolb list message. Web sites have permanent > addresses which can not be made anonymous. Thus any hanky panky can be > traced back to the owner/creator who is liable for damages. This is the > reason emails are the preferred infection vector. > > Some other possibilities are 1) If you use Internet Explorer instead of > Netscape there are a few Microsoft "features" which can be attacked from > an open email without opening any attachments. However, bet Matt > filters this out. Microsoft may have fixed this security weakness by > now if you have the latest version if IE. Then again, IE for Windows 98 > may not have been updated. 2) If you have children who also use your > computer, they tend to swap floppys and CDs with games, data and > unwanted extras. > > Sorry about your loss. It's no fun. > > Tom Kuffel > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:27 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trojans and Spyware --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Kolb related only to the extent they screw up the Kolb list..... Trojans and spyware are different from viruses. Use Ad-Aware from http://www.lavasoft.de/ and Spybot Search & Destroy from http://security.kolla.de/news.php?lang=en Both are free downloads. Update them often, use them often. They deal with what most anti-virus software doesn't. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 11:31 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > >Caution Kolbers, > >I picked up a virus from the Kolb list that destroyed my hard drive beyond >repair. >The name of the virus is Trojan. > >I am posting from a new machine because of this virus. I have Norton >anti-virus but it got through. > >I believe there might be those who would intentionally plant such a >virus. Be Careful! > >I know this isn't Kolb related but important. > >Dale Sellers >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:01 AM PST US From: "Dale Sellers" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" I did take my computer to a perfessional. He said the harddrive was shot and could not be reloaded. I am the only one using my computer, no kids. I was just trying to help by relating my experience. I'm done with it now. End of story. Dale Sellers do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Kuffels" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus > --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels > > do not archive > > Dale, > > < was full .. I went into DOS and formatted the C drive>> > > I'm no expert on viruses but, if your description is correct, the one > who destroyed all the data was Dale Sellers, not the virus per se. It > appears this virus is a local disk version of a "denial of service" > attack. Overload the resource so it can't be used. If so, the solution > would have been to boot DOS from floppy (everyone has a boot disk ready > don't they?) and delete the extraneous files until Windows will boot > from disk. Then you are in a position to hunt down the virus and clean > up the disk. > > The moral of this story is when things start to go bad, stop and get > professional help. The cost is worth every penny (well, every C note). > > Must agree with John H. It is very unlikely you got this virus from the > Kolb list or any link in a Kolb list message. Web sites have permanent > addresses which can not be made anonymous. Thus any hanky panky can be > traced back to the owner/creator who is liable for damages. This is the > reason emails are the preferred infection vector. > > Some other possibilities are 1) If you use Internet Explorer instead of > Netscape there are a few Microsoft "features" which can be attacked from > an open email without opening any attachments. However, bet Matt > filters this out. Microsoft may have fixed this security weakness by > now if you have the latest version if IE. Then again, IE for Windows 98 > may not have been updated. 2) If you have children who also use your > computer, they tend to swap floppys and CDs with games, data and > unwanted extras. > > Sorry about your loss. It's no fun. > > Tom Kuffel > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:45 AM PST US From: The Kuffels Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels Do not archive. Boss, <> Wouldn't know, have never been to a whorehouse (honest). My wife has had a guided tour or two, maybe I should ask her. The issue has nothing to do with groups. Anyone getting email on the internet is vulnerable to attack. So far, I've had no problems by using Netscape and *never* opening an email attachment I wasn't expecting already from someone I trusted technically and *never* loading a non-commercial floppy or CD in my computer. Now when it comes to file backups, I'm rather ambivalent. I've made a very large amount of money from customers who failed to back up their files as often as I told them to. Kind of hate to lose the income. Tom Kuffel Whitefish, MT ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:22:02 PM PST US From: "Boss" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Boss" I never back up either but then I have our drives in a mirrored and striped raid set up. I find that Nortons internet protection will stop and yell murder the moment that an infected email tries to come in from my ISP. Yes that means that is has stopped on incoming mail from this group. It automatically deletes the virus after I ackndowledge its cackle of "Look, look, what I did". Say that several times fast and it sounds like an old hen. Most of the SPAM I get is through the identity I use for groups. I get very little on my private identities as they are not made public. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Kuffels" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Virus > --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels > > Do not archive. > > Boss, > > < and having their files backed up? Sort of like going to a whorehouse > without anything IMHO.>> > > Wouldn't know, have never been to a whorehouse (honest). My wife has > had a guided tour or two, maybe I should ask her. > > The issue has nothing to do with groups. Anyone getting email on the > internet is vulnerable to attack. So far, I've had no problems by using > Netscape and *never* opening an email attachment I wasn't expecting > already from someone I trusted technically and *never* loading a > non-commercial floppy or CD in my computer. > > Now when it comes to file backups, I'm rather ambivalent. I've made a > very large amount of money from customers who failed to back up their > files as often as I told them to. Kind of hate to lose the income. > > Tom Kuffel > Whitefish, MT > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:42 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Higher Speed Kolb Mod --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Since it's raining here in Texas and my engine change is almost done I got to thinking. The McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom does Mach 2.2 and since the only real difference between them and my Kolbra is aerodynamics, I decided to try a little aero improvement. http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Kolb_F4K-1.JPG http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Kolb_F4K-2.JPG More later when I get the engine rigged. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:47 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Higher Speed Kolb Mod --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" John W/All: I can tell, you are getting bored. Probably pickup a couple hundred miles per hour, but gonna be dragging those horizontal stabalizer tips off on rough fields. I am waiting on some parts before I get into a serious update of several things on ole Miss P'fer. Not looking forward to it, but will not be so bad after I get into it. Got some rivets in the tail boom "H" brace loosening up after nearly 2,000 hours that need to be replaced, rewire instrument panel and intercom. A few other odds and ends like new engine Lord mounts and bolts, radiator, tach, volt meter, spark plug wire terminals, and the list goes on. Oh yea, got to pull my gear legs. Some of those serious landings have changed the shape of both legs, the left more than the right. I always seem to favor that leg when I do hard landings. :-) Just got off the phone with my retired Army Aviator buddy in North Pole, Alaska. JD Smith said it was -35F at 1300 Alaska time today. Told him several of us Kolbers were headed to Alaska in July. Said he would leave the porch light on for us. Super guy. Met him on the internet before I did my 2001 flight to Alaska. He took me in when I got there and I was part of the family for four days waiting on weather to fly to the North Slope. When I cam back down through North Pole I spent a couple more days resting up and getting ready to head for the Lower 48. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Higher Speed Kolb Mod > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > Since it's raining here in Texas and my engine change is almost done I got > to thinking. > > The McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom does Mach 2.2 and since the only real > difference between them and my Kolbra is aerodynamics, I decided to try a > little aero improvement. > > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Kolb_F4K-1.JPG > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Kolb_F4K-2.JPG > > More later when I get the engine rigged. > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:17 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Higher Speed Kolb Mod --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" John W wrote: > Since it's raining here in Texas and my engine change is almost done I got > to thinking. > > The McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom does Mach 2.2 and since the only real > difference between them and my Kolbra is aerodynamics, I decided to try a > little aero improvement. > > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Kolb_F4K-1.JPG > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Kolb_F4K-2.JPG > > More later when I get the engine rigged. > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ > > do not archive > > Good one John, I think I'm going to get out my kids Playstation Two and do a little F-4E fur- balling. Denny Rowe, Mk-3 grounded by winter in PA. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:47 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Visting the Milows --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com In a message dated 1/16/04 12:58:34 AM Mountain Standard Time, kolb-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > I can't help being a little > curious..............Arizona paint runs ?? Que es esto ?? Lar. > Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com Greetings Larry, Here are some pictures of the Arizona paint runs. http://www.milows.com/PaintingTheExtra/DSCN1210.JPG http://www.milows.com/PaintingTheExtra/DSCN1225.JPG I guess the cat is out of the bag. I want to thank everyone who sent me an email of support. It's no big thing I'm only going to loose half my stomach to get at the tumor. People pay big bucks to have this done all the time. Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:23 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Visting the Milows --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Cool paint job, for sure. Sorry to hear about the tummy.............a slice like you're going for is a little more than "no big thing," but I hope it goes well for you. Good Luck ! ! ! Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Visting the Milows > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > In a message dated 1/16/04 12:58:34 AM Mountain Standard Time, > kolb-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > > I can't help being a little > > curious..............Arizona paint runs ?? Que es esto ?? Lar. > > Do not Archive. > > > > Larry Bourne > > Palm Springs, CA > > Building Kolb Mk III > > N78LB Vamoose > > www.gogittum.com > > Greetings Larry, > Here are some pictures of the Arizona paint runs. > http://www.milows.com/PaintingTheExtra/DSCN1210.JPG > http://www.milows.com/PaintingTheExtra/DSCN1225.JPG > > I guess the cat is out of the bag. I want to thank everyone who sent me an > email of support. > It's no big thing I'm only going to loose half my stomach to get at the > tumor. People pay big bucks to have this done all the time. > > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, TX > FireStar II N4GU > C-172 N2506U > http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:47 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Higher Speed Kolb Mod --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Yah, shore, John, what ever ya say, but keep in mind that with the higher stall speed, you're gonna hafta install a Concorde style droop snoot for better visibility on landing. Hate to see it get away from ya, now. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Higher Speed Kolb Mod > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > Since it's raining here in Texas and my engine change is almost done I got > to thinking. > > The McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom does Mach 2.2 and since the only real > difference between them and my Kolbra is aerodynamics, I decided to try a > little aero improvement. > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:15 PM PST US From: "jam'n" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Visting the Milows --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jam'n" pintura de avion a arizona? > In a message dated 1/16/04 12:58:34 AM Mountain Standard Time, > kolb-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > > I can't help being a little > > curious..............Arizona paint runs ?? Que es esto ?? Lar. > > Do not Archive. > > Do not Archive. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:04:39 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Vamoose --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Today, I finally brought Vamoose home after 4 months of being jerked around, so now might even get something accomplished. The new landing gear looks great, but the A&P really ripped me off on the price..............double what was expected. You can see it at: http://www.flyingpics.homestead.com/gear1.html . Now, just gotta paint it. I had planned on powder coating, but Tom Kuffel raised the question of flexing. Before checking on that, I called the heat treating shop, and they told me NOT to powder coat the legs. Anything over 300 deg. F., will start to degrade the R48 hardness rating (they guarantee R46-48)...............and THAT is a real romper room no-no. So, I guess it'll be a spray can chance. Another thing - several people have expressed an interest in going on the next whale watching trip to Guerrero Negro, Baja California, Mexico with me. I've arranged for time off, starting on Feb. 9, and I plan on a 6 day trip. 2 days each way, 1 day (2 trips) on the boats, and 1 day up in the mountains. From Palm Springs, it's about 650 miles each way - 500 miles below the border at Tecate. The 1st day going south will be pretty intense; the 2nd, more leisurely. Those who'd like to caravan down there, please let me know off List. Sorry for the late call, it's been extremely busy, and time kinda got away from me. Thanks. Lar. Do not Archive. P.S. I've given some thought to flying down there in a year or so, but it's a tough call. People who've done it say it's a terrific experience.............but then again, you hear some pretty bad stories too. I dunno. I do know it's a fantastic drive. The scenery down the spine of the Baja, from San Quintin on down is really something. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com