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1. 04:53 AM - Re: Kolb History (ronnie wehba)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: What happened to Will? (Dave Rains)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04 (Doug Lawton)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: Kolb History (GeoR38@aol.com)
5. 06:28 AM - history (Paul Petty)
6. 07:03 AM - Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (John Hauck)
7. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04 (Larry Bourne)
8. 08:22 AM - Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (Larry Bourne)
9. 11:13 AM - mK111 Xtra floor (Derek Lawrence)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (Bob N.)
11. 12:12 PM - Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (ul15rhb@juno.com)
12. 12:47 PM - Re: mK111 Xtra floor (Jim Ballenger)
13. 12:49 PM - Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (John Hauck)
14. 01:13 PM - Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (ul15rhb@juno.com)
15. 01:46 PM - Re: mK111 Xtra floor (Christopher Armstrong)
16. 01:47 PM - Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance (John Hauck)
17. 02:24 PM - lexan (Paul Petty)
18. 03:42 PM - Hauck's Kolb History (John Hauck)
19. 04:14 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (ronnie wehba)
20. 05:30 PM - Re: Place to stay in Lakeland (H MITCHELL)
21. 05:36 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (Duncan McBride)
22. 06:03 PM - John's Pictures (Bill Vincent)
23. 06:06 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (bryan green)
24. 06:19 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (dama)
25. 07:30 PM - Windshield (Larry Bourne)
26. 07:34 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (Don Gherardini)
27. 08:27 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (John Hauck)
28. 08:35 PM - Kolbra Update (John Williamson)
29. 08:39 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (John Hauck)
30. 09:31 PM - Re: Kolbra Update (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb History |
required 5, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
John thanks for the great pic's ,one question thou' did anybody notice the
really pretty basket on the bike??? "grin"
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| Subject: | What happened to Will? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
Richard's message is accurate. Was there during surgery and visited
yesterday. Will is doing well considering the possibilities. Final
pathology report has not returned, but early indications indicate no
cancer. He will definitely be loosing weight, to the delight of his
FireStar. We talked about MV and he wants to fly his Kolb to the event.
That being the case, I will be flying my S-12 along side. I've never seen
so many tubes hooked up to one person, I told him to not tough anything
without a POH.
Dave.
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From: Timandjan@aol.com [SMTP:Timandjan@aol.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: What happened to Will?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
I met Will when he came to visit and see my Firestar2, I missed the first
email from him on this. Can someone tell me what happened to him, All I got
was a
3 hour surgery.
Thanks
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
John,
Thanks for the history pics. Man, you ARE a pioneer !!! I was flying UL's
at the same time, but the longest un-supported xc we ever made was from just
north of Atlanta to Chattanooga's Lookout Mountain Flight Park (Hang
Gliding) and back over the course of a long Memorial Day Weekend.
We had hitched a ride for our hang gliders to the mountain with another HG
pilot and we flew our Quicksilvers and a Dactyl up on a Thursday. As I
remember, there were 5 or 6 of us.
One guy developed carb ice and had to put down on the (as of then) unopened
stretch of I-575 somewhere around Canton, GA. It was the first and only
time I've ever seen carb ice happen to a two stroke, it only happened to one
of the 5 aircraft that were all flying in formation, and was actually sort
of a non-event. We all just followed him down and onto the 4 - lane. Let
the ice melt and took off again.
Shortly thereafter, we picked up I-75 and found a truck stop (your pic in
front of the McDonald's reminded me of this) north of Cartersville, that had
this neat little 2 lane blacktopped spur extending out into a field adjacent
to it's parking lot. A natural UL landing strip. (Looked like maybe they
were going to build some kind of an industrial park or something). Anyway,
the place was dead, no customers hardly at all. Well, we came buzzing in
one after another, taxied up to the pumps, topped off, grabbed snacks, etc.
Cars were pulling off the interstate in droves and filling the place up.
After about 45 minutes of answering all the questions, the management of the
gas station came out and asked us to please come back everyday. They
apparently hadn't seen that much business since they opened the joint. ;
)
I actually stopped at that truck stop about a month ago, and the little
blacktopped spur is completely surrounded by powerlines and buildings now.
A shame.
We got shut down by high winds about 20 miles short of goal in LaFayette, GA
late Thursday evening and had to tie down overnight. Finished up the first
part of the trip early the next morning. Took us a total of 6 1/2 hours to
fly what we could have driven by car in 2. The Quicks only cruised at
around 35 mph. The Dactyl flew circles around us to keep from out running
the group. We flew back home on the following Monday.
You really had an advantage over us in your Firestar with the higher cruise
speed. Of course, we had totally open cockpits with all our gear hanging
out in the breeze and single surface wings. ;
(
Thanks again for the trip down memory lane,
Doug
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 1/20/04 11:51:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
>
> Spent the first night out of The Flight Farm at Linden, MI. Before I
> crawled in my sleeping bag, in an old T hanger, the FBO lady loaned me her
> bike so I could ride to town in the morning for coffee and fresh pastries at
> a little shop a few miles from the airport. Boy, was that good. I landed
> at Linden, MI, again last July on the way to St Ignace, MI, to meet John
> Williamson and fly on to Scott Trask's at Iron Mountain, MI, and OSH. I was
> going to RON, but the place had drastically changed in the 14 years since I
> was last there. No more hangers. All had been bull dozed. The old FBO was
> still there, but I doubt it will be there long. Probably already gone. The
> price of progress and time.
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Linden,%20MI%201989.jpg
>
Really nifty pictures....you can probably blame my daughter and family who
bought a house there, and I visit there and make model airplanes in their
basement, for taking up the space of the landing strip....yea, that's progress
I
guess, but as ol Thomas Wolfe said "you can't go home again". My only question
is , who is that young feller in all those pictures?
George Randolph
Firestar driver...er....kinda.... from The Villages, fl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
My only question
is , who is that young feller in all those pictures?
snip>
Yeah with the dark hair?
pp
do not archive
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| Subject: | Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning Gang:
Still cool in Alabama. Yesterday it was 22F and this morning it is 24F.
Yuck!!!
I did a google search a couple days ago on Lexan Cleaning. Came up with
NOVUS.
http://www.airsource1.com/catalog.cgi/OIL%2CFILTER%2CWASH/POLISH-CLEANERS
They have three products:
#1-Novus Plastic Clean And Shine
#2-Novus Fine Scratch Remover
#3-Novus Heavy Scratch Remover
Although designed primarily for Plexiglas, which is much harder than Lexan,
I found a lot of different pages on the internet where folks are using NOVUS
on Lexan on motorcyle windshields, head light covers, instrument covers,
etc. Figured I would give them a chance. I ordered the #1 and #2.
This company was cheaper than all the others I found that carried NOVUS.
During the Firestar days I bought a kit, that is still sold 15 years later,
to refurbish my Lexan windshield. Spent a couple days removing, going
through the process, only to discover I had a completely fogged windshield.
This kit is designed for the harder plexiglass.
I could not find any product expressly designed to clean, repair, and
maintain Lexan. I still think autombile wax is the best product.
After I get the NOVUS I will have a better idea.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
And, thank you for yours, Doug. Good reading. Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the history pics. Man, you ARE a pioneer !!! I was flying
UL's
> at the same time, but the longest un-supported xc we ever made was from
just
> north of Atlanta to Chattanooga's Lookout Mountain Flight Park (Hang
> Gliding) and back over the course of a long Memorial Day Weekend.
>
> We had hitched a ride for our hang gliders to the mountain with another HG
> pilot and we flew our Quicksilvers and a Dactyl up on a Thursday. As I
> remember, there were 5 or 6 of us.
>
> One guy developed carb ice and had to put down on the (as of then)
unopened
> stretch of I-575 somewhere around Canton, GA. It was the first and only
> time I've ever seen carb ice happen to a two stroke, it only happened to
one
> of the 5 aircraft that were all flying in formation, and was actually sort
> of a non-event. We all just followed him down and onto the 4 - lane. Let
> the ice melt and took off again.
>
> Shortly thereafter, we picked up I-75 and found a truck stop (your pic in
> front of the McDonald's reminded me of this) north of Cartersville, that
had
> this neat little 2 lane blacktopped spur extending out into a field
adjacent
> to it's parking lot. A natural UL landing strip. (Looked like maybe they
> were going to build some kind of an industrial park or something).
Anyway,
> the place was dead, no customers hardly at all. Well, we came buzzing in
> one after another, taxied up to the pumps, topped off, grabbed snacks,
etc.
> Cars were pulling off the interstate in droves and filling the place up.
> After about 45 minutes of answering all the questions, the management of
the
> gas station came out and asked us to please come back everyday. They
> apparently hadn't seen that much business since they opened the joint. ;
> )
> I actually stopped at that truck stop about a month ago, and the little
> blacktopped spur is completely surrounded by powerlines and buildings now.
> A shame.
>
> We got shut down by high winds about 20 miles short of goal in LaFayette,
GA
> late Thursday evening and had to tie down overnight. Finished up the
first
> part of the trip early the next morning. Took us a total of 6 1/2 hours
to
> fly what we could have driven by car in 2. The Quicks only cruised at
> around 35 mph. The Dactyl flew circles around us to keep from out running
> the group. We flew back home on the following Monday.
>
> You really had an advantage over us in your Firestar with the higher
cruise
> speed. Of course, we had totally open cockpits with all our gear hanging
> out in the breeze and single surface wings. ;
> (
>
> Thanks again for the trip down memory lane,
>
> Doug
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
The Novus #2 fine scratch remover is what I did my trial run with on
Vamoose. Went over it 3 times by hand, and made a pretty good difference.
Gotta go to work now, but tonight I'll put a couple of pics on
line.........before and after. The thing is usable now, but still a little
hazy, and not acceptable. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Morning Gang:
>
> Still cool in Alabama. Yesterday it was 22F and this morning it is 24F.
> Yuck!!!
>
> I did a google search a couple days ago on Lexan Cleaning. Came up with
> NOVUS.
>
> http://www.airsource1.com/catalog.cgi/OIL%2CFILTER%2CWASH/POLISH-CLEANERS
>
> They have three products:
>
> #1-Novus Plastic Clean And Shine
>
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| Subject: | mK111 Xtra floor |
Authenticated-Sender:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Derek Lawrence" <Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
Hi all
On the rear floor panel there are two cut outs part way along the rear edge not
in line with cross tubes. Can anyone say what they are for?
Derek Lawrence
Kolb Mk111 Xtra
Stourbridge England
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
My experience in scratch removal has been that you first have to use the
really coarse stuff, then use progressively smoother papers, taking
several steps. When I first started, I didn't use the coarse grit, and
soon found that I wasn't doing any good at all. My finest grit paper is
6000, which makes a baby's butt feel like crocodile skin! And polishing
out deep scratches will cause some visual distortion.
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
John and others,
I have used Novus #3, then #2 on my Firestar lexan. I think it removes some scratches
and cleans it up, but I also notice very fine circular scratches in bright
sunlight or glare conditions. The same is true looking at a deep wax shine
on my new motorcycle tank under bright lights at night. It seems even the softest
cloth will produce some tiny scratches due to particulates in the air and
some that get on the polishing cloth.
Novus does not cloud the lexan.
Ralph
Original Firestar
17 years flying it
-- "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning Gang:
Still cool in Alabama. Yesterday it was 22F and this morning it is 24F.
Yuck!!!
I did a google search a couple days ago on Lexan Cleaning. Came up with
NOVUS.
http://www.airsource1.com/catalog.cgi/OIL%2CFILTER%2CWASH/POLISH-CLEANERS
They have three products:
#1-Novus Plastic Clean And Shine
#2-Novus Fine Scratch Remover
#3-Novus Heavy Scratch Remover
Although designed primarily for Plexiglas, which is much harder than Lexan,
I found a lot of different pages on the internet where folks are using NOVUS
on Lexan on motorcyle windshields, head light covers, instrument covers,
etc. Figured I would give them a chance. I ordered the #1 and #2.
This company was cheaper than all the others I found that carried NOVUS.
During the Firestar days I bought a kit, that is still sold 15 years later,
to refurbish my Lexan windshield. Spent a couple days removing, going
through the process, only to discover I had a completely fogged windshield.
This kit is designed for the harder plexiglass.
I could not find any product expressly designed to clean, repair, and
maintain Lexan. I still think autombile wax is the best product.
After I get the NOVUS I will have a better idea.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: mK111 Xtra floor |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Derek
On mine the cutouts are for the dual control mounts that are riveted to the
bottom tube.
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Lawrence" <Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
Subject: Kolb-List: mK111 Xtra floor
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Derek Lawrence"
<Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
>
> Hi all
> On the rear floor panel there are two cut outs part way along the rear
edge not in line with cross tubes. Can anyone say what they are for?
>
> Derek Lawrence
> Kolb Mk111 Xtra
> Stourbridge England
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I have used Novus #3, then #2 on my Firestar lexan. I think it removes
some scratches and cleans it up, but I also notice very fine circular
scratches in bright sunlight or glare conditions. > Ralph
> Original Firestar
Ralph/All:
Oops! Ralph, you missed a step. Supposed to use Novus #1 as the final
step. It is the polish/wax treatment. I think it is supposed to fill in
those tiny little teenie weenie circular scratches. My guess is, any good
auto wax would do the same thing.
I know, after I clean and wax my lexan windshield and door glass, a lot of
the scratches and haze are gone.
I can live with the big scratches. One can look between them. It is that
darn circular haze that turns to dazzling diamonds in the sun that really
screws me up. I immediately go IFR in the cockpit. I don't like that when
I am in or near airport traffic. Scarey!
Take care,
john h
PS: Ordered the NOVUS Monday and the UPS man dropped it off a short time
ago. That is quick for surface UPS from Fort Worth, TX, John Williamson
country.
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
You are right John, I never used the Novus #1 (cleaner) and maybe that would have
made the difference. By the way, the Novus polisher that I used was many years
old and lasts a long time. Novus may have a better product now.
Ralph
-- "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Ralph/All:
Oops! Ralph, you missed a step. Supposed to use Novus #1 as the final
step. It is the polish/wax treatment. I think it is supposed to fill in
those tiny little teenie weenie circular scratches. My guess is, any good
auto wax would do the same thing.
I know, after I clean and wax my lexan windshield and door glass, a lot of
the scratches and haze are gone.
I can live with the big scratches. One can look between them. It is that
darn circular haze that turns to dazzling diamonds in the sun that really
screws me up. I immediately go IFR in the cockpit. I don't like that when
I am in or near airport traffic. Scarey!
Take care,
john h
PS: Ordered the NOVUS Monday and the UPS man dropped it off a short time
ago. That is quick for surface UPS from Fort Worth, TX, John Williamson
country.
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| Subject: | mK111 Xtra floor |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Possibly brake lines?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Derek
Lawrence
Subject: Kolb-List: mK111 Xtra floor
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Derek Lawrence"
<Derek@prestwoodpetcrematorium.co.uk>
Hi all
On the rear floor panel there are two cut outs part way along the rear
edge not in line with cross tubes. Can anyone say what they are for?
Derek Lawrence
Kolb Mk111 Xtra
Stourbridge England
==
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==
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Cleaning and Maintenance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
By the way, the Novus polisher that I used was many years old and lasts a
long time. Novus may have a better product now.
>
> Ralph
Ralph/Gang:
Yep. I like the sound of a "Novus polisher". I don't have one. Am limited
to "elbow grease", and not much of that left. :-)
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <ppetty@c-gate.net>
Here is my 2 cents. Motorcycle windshields are lexan. And learned many moons ago
to always clean with water and always wipe up and down. If you rub in a circular
motion it will show up when light hits it. When you rub lexan your scratching
it. No matter how soft the cloth is. Trick is to make all the tiny scratches
all up and down and all in the same direction.
3M makes some good polish. I use it to get the scratches out of my CD's that my
2 year old gets his paws on:-)
pp
do not archive
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| Subject: | Hauck's Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
I'll see if I can post a few more history pics before supper.
My Kolb History is unique because it does not necessarily follow
chronological order.
I made several cross country flights in the Ultrastar, several to Woodville,
FL; one to Thomasville, GA. But the real serious cross country work started
when I got the Firestar flying in July 1987. By the time Sun and Fun 1988
rolled around, Cuz'n P'fer and I had flown an overnight to Lake City, FL,
and Miami, FL.
I can not tell you how excited I was when I got within sight of the UL area
at Lakeland, S&F 1988. I had finally flown something I built to the big
show. I started going to S&F in March 1984, a couple weeks after I sent
Homer Kolb a check for $3,495.00 for my Ultrastar kit. So, after four
visits to S&F, I was finally flying in. Here is my famous body bag, or more
commonly called a one man bivy tent. This was what I lived in on all the
overnight flights in the Firestar, including a 21 and 25 day flights.
Looks tiny, but enough room to sleep comfortably out of the wind and rain.
I even got good enough to dress in this little bittie bugger. That was 17
years ago. Doubt I could do that now.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Sun%20&%20Fun%201988%20Body%20Bag.jpg
This is Homer Kolb and me at S&F 1988. This was the first time Homer had
seen my FS. He later flew Cuz'n P'fer and was favorably impressed. Homer
Kolb was the only other person to fly my FS.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Homer%20Kolb%20S&F-1%201988.jpg
First morning to fly at S&F 1988. I was up early, got my briefing, and was
ready to fly.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1st%20Flt%201st%20Day%20S&F%201988.jpg
My first takeoff at S&F. Normal Firestar T/O, but I got continually
counciled about my steep angle of attack. Oh well, the air ops guys that
were getting me had never flown a Kolb.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1st%20TO%201st%20Day%20S&F%201988.jpg
This is Ben Dawson chastising me for doing aerobatics within 5 miles of
Lakeland Tower. I didn't realize I was doing aerobatics. I went outside
the UL traffic pattern practiced some stalls and big wing overs that looked
much like barrel rolls. My stalls occurred when the FS stopped flying in a
vertical climb. What fun. Homer Kolb liked it, but the S&F guys didn't. I
was red flagged, chased down, and grounded for a while until I learned my
lesson. My heart was broken. This is when I met Ben Dawson who has been a
good friend for all these years.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1st%20S&F%20Flight%20Reprimand%201988.jpg
The Sunday morning after the last day of S&F 1988. That's my old buddy
"junk yard" Chuck Shaunesey who has since gone on to that big grass strip in
the shy. Chuck always made sure I had a way to get chow, usually had a
place for me to sleep. That is not a bad picture, but the thickest fog I
have ever encountered. It started at ground level and went up.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Fog%20S&F%201988.jpg
Here's me, Cuz'n P'fer, and our Sun and Fun 1988 Grand Champion Ultralight
Award. What more can I say. I was overwhelmed. When I flew to S&F I had
no idea what aircraft judging was. Some asked if I was going to have the
Firestar judged. Then told me where to go to register for the judging.
Man, I did not have a clue. I flew the FS to S&F to fly, and brought back
that award. Wow!
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1988%20S&F%20Grand%20Champ%20UL.jpg
Better get ready to go to town for supper. I'll continue this as I have
time and when I am in the mood to do it.
Take care,
john h
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required 5, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
I would really like to " hear,see" your ultrastar just cause I LUVS mine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Hauck's Kolb History
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> I'll see if I can post a few more history pics before supper.
>
> My Kolb History is unique because it does not necessarily follow
> chronological order.
>
> I made several cross country flights in the Ultrastar, several to
Woodville,
> FL; one to Thomasville, GA. But the real serious cross country work
started
> when I got the Firestar flying in July 1987. By the time Sun and Fun 1988
> rolled around, Cuz'n P'fer and I had flown an overnight to Lake City, FL,
> and Miami, FL.
>
> I can not tell you how excited I was when I got within sight of the UL
area
> at Lakeland, S&F 1988. I had finally flown something I built to the big
> show. I started going to S&F in March 1984, a couple weeks after I sent
> Homer Kolb a check for $3,495.00 for my Ultrastar kit. So, after four
> visits to S&F, I was finally flying in. Here is my famous body bag, or
more
> commonly called a one man bivy tent. This was what I lived in on all the
> overnight flights in the Firestar, including a 21 and 25 day flights.
> Looks tiny, but enough room to sleep comfortably out of the wind and rain.
> I even got good enough to dress in this little bittie bugger. That was 17
> years ago. Doubt I could do that now.
>
>
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Sun%20&%20Fun%201988%20Body%20Bag.jpg
>
> This is Homer Kolb and me at S&F 1988. This was the first time Homer had
> seen my FS. He later flew Cuz'n P'fer and was favorably impressed. Homer
> Kolb was the only other person to fly my FS.
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Homer%20Kolb%20S&F-1%201988.jpg
>
> First morning to fly at S&F 1988. I was up early, got my briefing, and
was
> ready to fly.
>
>
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1st%20Flt%201st%20Day%20S&F%201988.jpg
>
> My first takeoff at S&F. Normal Firestar T/O, but I got continually
> counciled about my steep angle of attack. Oh well, the air ops guys that
> were getting me had never flown a Kolb.
>
>
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1st%20TO%201st%20Day%20S&F%201988.jpg
>
> This is Ben Dawson chastising me for doing aerobatics within 5 miles of
> Lakeland Tower. I didn't realize I was doing aerobatics. I went outside
> the UL traffic pattern practiced some stalls and big wing overs that
looked
> much like barrel rolls. My stalls occurred when the FS stopped flying in
a
> vertical climb. What fun. Homer Kolb liked it, but the S&F guys didn't.
I
> was red flagged, chased down, and grounded for a while until I learned my
> lesson. My heart was broken. This is when I met Ben Dawson who has been
a
> good friend for all these years.
>
>
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1st%20S&F%20Flight%20Reprimand%201988.jpg
>
> The Sunday morning after the last day of S&F 1988. That's my old buddy
> "junk yard" Chuck Shaunesey who has since gone on to that big grass strip
in
> the shy. Chuck always made sure I had a way to get chow, usually had a
> place for me to sleep. That is not a bad picture, but the thickest fog I
> have ever encountered. It started at ground level and went up.
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Fog%20S&F%201988.jpg
>
> Here's me, Cuz'n P'fer, and our Sun and Fun 1988 Grand Champion Ultralight
> Award. What more can I say. I was overwhelmed. When I flew to S&F I had
> no idea what aircraft judging was. Some asked if I was going to have the
> Firestar judged. Then told me where to go to register for the judging.
> Man, I did not have a clue. I flew the FS to S&F to fly, and brought back
> that award. Wow!
>
>
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/1988%20S&F%20Grand%20Champ%20UL.jpg
>
> Better get ready to go to town for supper. I'll continue this as I have
> time and when I am in the mood to do it.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
>
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Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:30:37 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
One of my flying partners advised me to put the phone number on our list.
Brandon motor Lodge (813) 689-1261.
Honest folks, I am not getting a cut on this!!!
Duane the plane
----- Original Message -----
From: H MITCHELL
To: kolblist
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:44 PM
Subject: Place to stay in Lakeland
Greetings all,
My flying partner and I have stayed at the Brandon Motor Lodge during the last
two Sun 'n Fun fly-ins. The rooms are clean, they have cable, pool etc. This
is not for royalty but the tab is only $65/night + for geezers. It is about 15
miles of fairly light traffic from the gate. No breakfast but there is at least
one of every known franchised eatery and boozatorium near by.
I just made my own reservation for 14,15 and 16th.
Let's meet at the end of the day at the Kolb trailer and get together for dinner.
Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, Mk/912, FireFly SN 007.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Thanks, John. This is good stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Hauck's Kolb History
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> I'll see if I can post a few more history pics before supper.
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi John
Thanks to the cold weather that drove you to the bottom drawer, we are
all enjoying your interesting pictures.
( The list has alot of room for more of these pictures) :-)
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
John I sure enjoyed the pictures and the look back. I am currently
rebuilding my Firestar and if it ok by you would like to copy the color
pattern of your plane. Also if you have any pics of the extended panel you
did I would appreciate it if you would send them off list. Do not archive.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Hauck's Kolb History
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
John, your pics with Homer reminded me of last years Sun n Fun where I flew
down from ATL and at times wondering what I was getting myself into. I was
giving a pax a ride in the pattern (Lou from Atlanta who is bulding a
MkIII). While waiting in line to depart for a circuit, Lou taps me on the
shoulder and yells over the sound of the idling Rotax, "there's Homer and
his wife". Sure enough, there he was in the crowd just like your average
Joe. Next thing I knew, his camera came up and he snapped a pic of us. Homer
wanted a pic of MY Kolb. In an instant, 900 miles with rain, a head
splitting Rotax buzz and an aching back was all worth it.
PS, Homer was probably thinking "why did this guy fail to cover his cage"!
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
As threatened this morning, pics and a description of Vamoose' sandblasted windshield are now on my website. Take a look at them at http://www.flyingpics.homestead.com/sandblast.html . This is a new page on "Single Pictures" in the "Building Vamoose" portion of my site. Hope you enjoy them. This weekend looks to be pretty full, so I'm unsure if the continued polishing will happen, but it won't be long, and I'll keep ya posted. I'd like to say "Thank You Very Much" to all those who offered advice and support for this part of the project over the last few days. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
John Hauck......hope your in the mood after supper to browse ol pics
pard..cause ya sure got me in the mood to !
This stuff really get to me ...as I didnt take near enuff pics of me an my
weedhoppers in the early 80'S...and most of the ones I diid take have long
got away from me...I guess I didnt realise how good reminisin' would be
later in life...which got here so fast!
Thx John...good stuff!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Kip:
Homer liked your airplane or he would have never wasted a frame on it.
He supported me, and my changes to his airplanes from the very beginning.
Every modification we did to the MK III in building and prep for the first
flight to Alaska and around the country was blessed by Homer. Over the
years we have seen many of our changes incorporated into factory produced
cages. I take no credit for the mods. Those all go to my Brother Jim. I
usually come up with a requirement and Jim figures out how to do it and then
fabricates it.
Take care,
john h
> John, your pics with Homer reminded me of last years Sun n Fun where I
flew
> down from ATL > Kip
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Fellow Kolbers,
Today was a very good day. The Kolbra is back at the airport and all put
back together. I'll try and fly it Sunday or Monday when I get back in town.
For those folks keeping track of me, here are links to photos of the latest
updates on my progress:
Kolbra Mods Update 01/21/2004
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/KolbraMods-3.htm
Kolbra Mods Update 01/10/2004
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/KolbraMods-2.htm
Kolbra Mods Update 12/31/2003
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/KolbraMods-1.htm
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Bryan/Gang:
Sorry, I don't have any pics of the contruction of the extended panel on my
Firestar.
I think Bro Jim used 3/8 4130 steel to make the rear windshield brace,
welded some tabs on it to mount rubber shock mounts and the aluminum sheet
instrument panel. The Lexan was painted flat black with spray can paint in
order to hide the rear of the instrument panel. It worked great, as did the
fairing on top the windshield. Not only did the fairing allow me to wear a
baseball cap and my glasses in comfort instead of the David Clark Cloth
Helmet and Goggles, in increased my cruise speed a few miles an hour by
kicking the air over the leading edge of the center section instead of into
me and the fully covered bulkhead behind me.
Pretty simple to construct and much easier for me to see and manipulate my
panel. I think it also set off the image of the Firestar.
If you look closely at the 1989 pictures of the Firestar you will pick up on
a lot of changes we made to the outside appearance of this airplane.
All three of my airplanes had/have identical paint colors and pattern. Sort
of my trade mark. Plus it was the only way and the only colors I knew how
to paint.
I have no patent on the colors or the scheme. The colors were chosen
initially because they are easy to see in contrast to a lot of green trees
or brown, tan, grey dessert. Would show up good in the snow too.
I have been flying with these colors, and only these colors for 20 years.
Time is flying.............
You certainly have my permission to use that paint scheme, even though you
do not need it. :-)
Take care,
john h
> John I sure enjoyed the pictures and the look back. I am currently
> rebuilding my Firestar and if it ok by you would like to copy the color
> pattern of your plane. Also if you have any pics of the extended panel you
> did I would appreciate it if you would send them off list. Do not archive.
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
You do nice work, John, and I'm sure envious of that nice work area you
have. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra Update
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> Today was a very good day. The Kolbra is back at the airport and all put>
>
>
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