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1. 03:18 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04 (Linda Rowe)
2. 09:56 AM - Hauck's Kolb History (John Hauck)
3. 12:43 PM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History (Edward Chmielewski)
4. 05:45 PM - 503 two seater (Judy or Larry Gitt)
5. 05:54 PM - Re: Kolbra Update (Bob Dalton)
6. 07:11 PM - tail wire tension (Aaron Hollingsworth)
7. 07:31 PM - Re: 503 two seater (John Hauck)
8. 07:45 PM - Re: tail wire tension (ul15rhb@juno.com)
9. 07:50 PM - Re: tail wire tension (Gary r. voigt)
10. 08:40 PM - Re: 503 two seater (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
11. 09:15 PM - Re: 503 two seater (Richard Pike)
12. 09:52 PM - [ Jim Gerken ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
13. 09:59 PM - [ Dennis A Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
14. 10:02 PM - [ Gary R. Voigt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
15. 10:07 PM - [ Paul Petty ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
16. 10:18 PM - bmw power (Christopher Armstrong)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/20/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Linda Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Doug wrote:
The Dactyl flew circles around us to keep from out running
> the group.
Doug,
Great story, it brought back memeries of flying my Dactyl to a Pig roast in
Saxonburg PA in 1981 or 82 along with a friend in a Kawasaki 440 powered
Wizard .(GASP)
The Wizard flew so slow that I also had to fly circles around him as the Dac
wouldn't hold altitude at his slow speed.
We had a great time that day, what a wonderful experience for myself being
all of 15 or 16 years old at the time.
Dennis Rowe, Mk-3, PA
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| Subject: | Hauck's Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning Gang:
After making the longest flight to date in November 1987, to Miami, FL, and
a flight to Sun and Fun 1988, plans were made for an aggressive flight to
Monterey, NY, to Bill and Barbara Locke's "Flight Farm". The flyin was in
June and lasted eight days. That's a lot of days and a lot of flying. I
got there about three days early, to make sure I did not miss anything. I
really did not know how long it was going to take me to fly there, so I gave
myself plenty of time to get there and not be late. I was amazed at how
fast the little Firestar made the flight. Two days to Homer's and another
day to the Flight Farm. I continually had to pinch myself during this
flight to see if I was awake and not dreaming.
I might add, I have never made any ultralight cross country flight with any
kind of ground support. I started out with the Ultrastar, doing cross
country flights and no ground support. It has always been my way of flying.
If I can not do it by myself, then I'll stay at home. Please don't take
that the wrong way. I have no problem with folks trailering their airplanes
to airshows, or having Mom tag along in a $125,000.00 BAMH (big ass motor
home). If you can do it, fine! I'm a little different. I do it my way.
:-) However, I have been learning to fly with others, and look forward to
the flying our group is going to be doing this year.
In 1987 and 1988, I could get all my stuff in the airplane except my
sleeping bag. When I was building the Firestar, Brother Jim welded me four
tabs under the bottom and rear of the gear legs to sling load stuff that
would not fit inside. I found a little cargo net made of bungy cord to
secure the sleeping bag.
I flew from Gantt IAP, AL, to Griffin, GA, non-stop. From Griffin to NE to
I85, then up I85 to Gafney, SC, just south of the NC state line. Spied a
Burger King next to the Interstate. A small hay field nearby. I was
starving. Had not eaten since I left home. I landed in the hayfield for
lunch on the 1988 and 1989 flights to the NE in the Firestar.
Just before dark I decided on a nice big hayfield in the rolling hills of
the Shenandoah Valley to spend the night. Was next to I81. Grass was knee
high. A quarter of a mile or so to the SE was a resturant. I was in hog
heaven:
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/RON%20in%20VA%201988.jpg
The reason I elected to land and RON in the hayfield was because the FBO at
New River Valley Airport, Radford, VA, where I refueled, wanted me to pay
him for the privledge to sleep on his grass with my airplane. Pissed me
off. So I loaded up, took off and found the hay field. This shot was taken
very early in the morning. I had to wait a short time to let the fog clear
a little to take off. I also spent the night here, at 2,400 feet ASL, in
1989. No need to put up the tent. Rolled out the air mattress and sleeping
bag. Had no problem going to sleep.
Next day I made it to Homer Kolb's. Spent the night, and continued north to
the Flight Farm, NW of Elmira, NY.
Here is what I did at the Farm, fly. It was cold in NY in June.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Ready%20For%20TO%20Flt%20Farm%20NY%201988.jpg
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Flt%20Farm%20NY%201988.jpg
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Flt%20Farm%20NY%201988-1.jpg
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/airplanes/Flt%20Farm%20NY%201988-2.jpg
To pay my camping and entrance fees, and keep the Rotax 447 fueled, I flew
hundreds of aerobatics and cut lots of rolls of Scott Toilet Tissue at the
1988 and 89 Flight Farm Flyins. It was barnstorming in the 80's.
I slept in my "body bag", got chow where I could, flew from dawn to dusk.
All navigation for the 88 and 89 flights were pilotage and DED reckoning,
sectional and mag compass. There was no GPS. It was as basic as one could
get. I am glad I had an opportunity to experience it.
Take care,
john h
PS: I just found my 1987 Cincinnatti Sectional I flew with on the 1988
flight. Has my course lines, headings and distance marked on it. Brings
back a lot of memories.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Hauck's Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi John,
Your reminiscing posts and pics are some of the best on this list. Please
keep
'em coming! They really help on these long, cold Michigan days. I hope you're
weathered
in until April!
Do not archive.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503/Frozen in place
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Hauck's Kolb History
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Morning Gang:
>
> After making the longest flight to date in November 1987, to Miami, FL, and
> a flight to Sun and Fun 1988, plans were made for an aggressive flight to
> Monterey, NY, to Bill and Barbara Locke's "Flight Farm".
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
I was in Omaha to a car show and got to talking to an old timer like me , And
of course Airplanes came into the conversation . He wanted to know what kind
of plane I was flying and I told him a Kolb Kolbra . He didn't know anything
about the kolbra but knew of Kolb and then he was telling me a story of
a guy that went to Alaska with a 503 in a two seater and then from there all
the way to the Kolb company back east and he was telling me , it grossed
out with the fuel tank at 1200 lbs . He was really impressed with that plane
. But never built one . This sounds a little heavy for a Mk II. What's the
story on this guy. Does anybody know? Had to some time back . Was that you John
H ? Larry G
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra Update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
John,
Great pics, your Kolbra looks awesome, thanks for shar'in.
Bob Dalton
(lurker)
Manteca, CA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra Update
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> Today was a very good day. The Kolbra is back at the airport and all put
> back together. I'll try and fly it Sunday or Monday when I get back in
town.
>
> For those folks keeping track of me, here are links to photos of the
latest
> updates on my progress:
>
> Kolbra Mods Update 01/21/2004
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/KolbraMods-3.htm
>
> Kolbra Mods Update 01/10/2004
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/KolbraMods-2.htm
>
> Kolbra Mods Update 12/31/2003
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/KolbraMods-1.htm
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | tail wire tension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
How tight should the flying wires on the fail feathers be? Mine seem a tad bit
loose to me.
Aaron
Mk3
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| Subject: | Re: 503 two seater |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
grossed out with the fuel tank at 1200 lbs . He was really impressed
with that plane . But never built one . This sounds a little heavy for a Mk
II. What's the story on this guy. Does anybody know? Had to some time back
. Was that you John H ? Larry G
Hi Larry G/All:
Nope. Twern't me.
I've done the trip a few times but only in the MKIII.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: tail wire tension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:10:30 -0700 "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
> <aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> How tight should the flying wires on the fail feathers be? Mine seem
> a tad bit loose to me.
>
> Aaron
> Mk3
Aaron,
Mine were loose for many years because I didn't want to use any tools to
tighten the wing nut during setup. After about 400 hours, the thimbles
were getting gouged by the wing tangs. When looking back at the tail
during flight, the stabs were bouncing all over the place. I replaced
them and now use a nut/wrench and they are comfortably tight but not too
tight.
Ralph
Original Firestar
17 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: tail wire tension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Aaron, i fly a kolb kxp model and mine are pretty tight... no way of
telling for sure without putting a deflection gauge on it but i wanted this
way because once in the air, forces play a big part on this...if you think
yours are loose then they will be more so once the air moves over the
elevator etc. to fix this you can get adjustable tangs or use washers
inside/outside of the tang depending if you want to tighten or give it
slack. hope this helps.
Gary r. voigt
Excelsior,mn.
still flying on wheels off the ice!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: tail wire tension
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth"
<aaron@gamespeak.com>
>
> How tight should the flying wires on the fail feathers be? Mine seem a tad
bit loose to me.
>
> Aaron
> Mk3
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 503 two seater |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
In a message dated 1/22/04 8:45:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gittj@earthlink.net writes:
> a guy that went to Alaska with a 503 in a two seater and then from there
> all the way to the Kolb company back east and he was telling me , it
> grossed out with the fuel tank at 1200 lbs .
Larry / John H / and others,
It could have been Rick Trader from New Jersey. He did a flight to Alaska
several years ago and had people at various locations sign their names on the
tail. He then started visiting schools and telling the kids all about the trip,
promoting care of mother earth. Haven't heard anything about him lately.
Do Not Archive
Bill Varnes
Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| Subject: | Re: 503 two seater |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
I remember years ago an article in - I think it was the EAA magazine -
about some guy who built an over gross Kolb to fly to the Arctic Circle,
and 1200 pounds sounds about right, but that's all I remember.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 07:45 PM 1/22/04 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
>
>I was in Omaha to a car show and got to talking to an old timer like me
>, And of course Airplanes came into the conversation . He wanted to know
>what kind of plane I was flying and I told him a Kolb Kolbra . He didn't
>know anything about the kolbra but knew of Kolb and then he was telling
>me a story of a guy that went to Alaska with a 503 in a two seater and
>then from there all the way to the Kolb company back east and he was
>telling me , it grossed out with the fuel tank at 1200 lbs . He was
>really impressed with that plane . But never built one . This sounds a
>little heavy for a Mk II. What's the story on this guy. Does anybody
>know? Had to some time back . Was that you John H ? Larry G
>
>
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| Subject: | [ Jim Gerken ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Since the cam shaft and pushrods are on the bottom of the bmw what is in
that big bump on top of the crank case? Could you cut some of that away
and save a few pounds? I can't think of what would be in there.
Topher
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