Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:07 AM - Re: Done? (jerb)
2. 05:26 AM - aluminum tanks (Clay Stuart)
3. 05:31 AM - NE Kolb Homecoming (Chuck Davis - Comcast)
4. 06:54 AM - Re: Hauck's Kolb History Continued (bryan green)
5. 07:49 AM - Re: FireStar II questions (johnjung@compusenior.com)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: aluminum tanks (John Williamson)
7. 08:05 AM - Re: aluminum tanks (John Hauck)
8. 08:14 AM - New GPS ? (Jo and Larry)
9. 08:55 AM - Re: MkII 1200 lb gross Rick Trader (Airgriff2@aol.com)
10. 09:27 AM - Re: New GPS ? (John Hauck)
11. 09:35 AM - Re: NE Kolb Homecoming (Airgriff2@aol.com)
12. 09:50 AM - Re: NE Kolb Homecoming (John Hauck)
13. 10:11 AM - New GPS? (Jo and Larry)
14. 11:09 AM - To all the past stores (Judy or Larry Gitt)
15. 02:36 PM - Re: FireStar II questions (MEMATUZAK@aol.com)
16. 04:32 PM - Osh 1989 (John Hauck)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Lar,
Will you have your hours flown off by the MV trip?
Your usually restricted to a test area ranging 25 to 100 mile radius of
your base so trailering it to another location to fly it is even out. Stop
reading emails and get that thing done so you can start enjoying what you
have been missing for so loooooong. 8
)
jerb
At 01:38 AM 1/24/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski"
><edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
>Hey Lar,
>
> Whew! For a minute there I thought you were gonna say it was too
> hot to work!
>You're so close, man, I know you can make it to MV easy.
>
>Ed in JXN
>MkII/503
>(It's too cold out! Wind chill -11F.)
>
>Do not archive.
>
>
>(Snip)
> I'm also finding
> > that after so long coasting, it's kinda hard to get back in
> > gear................in fact, I hear that recliner calling me
> > now..................... Big Lar
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
To the fellows with custom aluminum tanks, John Williamson and Uncle Craig, among
others. What are you doing to the exterior of the tanks? Painting, anodizing?
Is there a need to do anything? I know that Steven Green painted his tank.
Clay Stuart
building Mark IIIXtra
Danville KY
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| Subject: | NE Kolb Homecoming |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Davis - Comcast" <davis207@comcast.net>
I've been playing in the back of my mind suggesting a "get together" with
some of the other Kolbers in the areas. Met Bill and another last Fall at
New Garden (N57) in Toughkenamon, PA, plus know a few other here in central
NJ. I'd love to meet more!
A few day's worth of Summer cross country'ng with a flock of Kolbs sounds
like a perfect time. If we swing by this way, I have ground transport, bed
and shower available.
Chuck Davis
Firefly 028
Princeton, NJ
Message 19 ____________________________________
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>
> Time: 03:18:45 PM PST US
> From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: photoshare
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
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> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Denny, nice klean kolb. Those of us in the NE should think about a regional
MV-like excursion eventually since the far west is a mite more than most
want to go. There don't seem to be many listers from the new england
states.
There is a good ultralight fly-in near Bob Griffin in the Schenectady area
every summer, otherwise western Pennsylvania does have the prettiest
scenery.
> > Any ideas? -BB do not archive
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> Thanks!.
> A North East Kolb excursion sounds Great!. We should start thinking about
> areas to consider, southern New York, Central PA (lots of Kolbs there),
> Dayton Ohio (where this all started), a mass flight to Homers farm (only
> with his blessing), a tour of south western PA(my backyard) possibly
> circumnavigating Pittsburgh Class B with stops at places of interest such
as
> Carlson Aircraft company, and as John H suggested maybe the Flight Farm or
> Bob Griffins UL fly in, last but not least the Fathers day UL fly in at
> Wellsville PA.
> The mind reels with the possibilities!
> As long as I can fit it around my 21 turn work schedule and family
> obligations I am in, if the good Lord's willing and the creek don't rise.
> Denny
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hauck's Kolb History Continued |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Hauck's Kolb History Continued
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Everybody:
>
> After a year of hard flying, a few bumps and hard landings; armed with
many
John I have enjoyed this very much it let me know just what my little
airplane is capable of. To have someone share pictures of the very same
modifications that I want to do and a few I haven't concidered is pricless.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
Answers for Don's questions:
How fast will a FireStar II,,..loaded pretty well towards
gross...fly with a
503?.....
80 mph at 725# gross, WOT
How fast is the economical cruise? (for best range)
45 mph at 2.25 gph gives 20 mpg or up to 190 miles on 10 gallons
What is the fuel consumption rate? (at econ cruise)
5.5 gph at 75 mph is fast cruise
3.5 gph at 58 mph is quiet cruise
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: aluminum tanks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Clay and all,
My aluminum tank was made of 5052H-42, .040 aluminum. It took one 2X4
sheet to build my tank.
The exterior was treated with Poly Fiber E-2310 Aluma-Dyne Phosphoric Acid
Etch then E-2300 Aluma-Dyne Conversion Coating.
The interior was treated with Randolph #912 Alcohol-Resistant Sloshing
Sealer.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 508 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: aluminum tanks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> What are you doing to the exterior of the tanks? Painting, anodizing?
> Is there a need to do anything? I know that Steven Green painted his
tank.
> Clay Stuart
Hi Clay/All:
If it is hidden, I would not to anything to it on the outside.
If it is exposed to prying eyes, I still would not paint it if it was
finished up and welded professionally.
I shot my 5052 aluminum tank with Stitts, now Polyfiber, epoxy primer 13
years ago. It is hidden. If I had it to do again, I would not.
I have two auxilery fuel tanks in the back of my pickup made of 5052. They
have been exposed to the elements since 1996, 8 years. Show no corrosion.
Today I would save the paint and the weight.
On the inside, unless it was a factory 5052 aluminum tank, I would slosh
with Randolph combination auto/avgas slosh and seal.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
I am sure I saw a new handheld GPS in an aviation magazine that was setup
similar to an EFIS ( altitude and speed on left and right tapes, heading on
top, etc). I can't find the magazine or any other information; thought it
was cool at the time and was going to go back and look at it. Anyone know
what I am talking about or was it a 'bad trip'
Thanks,
Larry
"Aviation is not inherently dangerous, but... ."
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| Subject: | Re: MkII 1200 lb gross Rick Trader |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
I,m not sure what the published gross wt. was on the MK2, but I remember
reading articles on Rick Trader's flight to Alaska and I also have the video that
he had made and it was mentioned that the flight was made at 140% gross wt.
Bob Griffin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Larry/All:
That is a Garmin 196.
I bought one last year.
Great system to fly with.
It does have the page you are talking about, looks like an instrument panel.
Do a google search for "Garmin+196" to get info on this system.
john h
> I am sure I saw a new handheld GPS in an aviation magazine that was setup
> similar to an EFIS ( altitude and speed on left and right tapes, heading
on
> top, etc). > Larry
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| Subject: | Re: NE Kolb Homecoming |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
A fly-in to Homer's place sounds fantastic!! The only problem I see is a time
fitting it in a busy summer already of flying for alot of Kolb pilots.
April- S&F, MV-May, Alaska flight in mid summer, Aug- Oshkash, London-
Sept. 4th of July sounds nice but it would be guys like John H., and John
W, and several others who would be willing to fly across the country to invade
Homers farm, wouldn't be able to make it. Is there a way to schedual as to
make it possible for most to attend that would want to ?
If Homers couldnt work out, I was thinking of Cooperstown NY as a back-up
choice also. A great fellow purchased the field 4 yrs. ago and sunk $750,000.00
into it. 3000' grass strip on the west side of the Catskill Mts., a
resturant , new hangars, fuel, and plenty of camping room, with bath & showers.
Cooperstown is known for the "baseball hall of fame", a small country town with
a
beautiful lake.
First choice would be to see about 20 Kolbs drop out of the sky onto Homers
farm.
The practice of Kolbs being used so much as cross country flying machines now
days is making it difficult to schedual a time and place for them all to meet
at once. Isn't that something!!
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: NE Kolb Homecoming |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> If Homers couldnt work out, I was thinking of Cooperstown NY as a back-up
> choice also. A great fellow purchased the field 4 yrs. ago and sunk
$750,000.00
> into it. 3000' grass strip on the west side of the Catskill Mts., a
> resturant , new hangars, fuel, and plenty of camping room, with bath &
showers.
> Bob Griffin
Bob G/All:
Cooperstown is a great airport. I flew in and out of there in 1989 when I
was staying with Bert Howland. Bert's strip was just to the east on the
other side of the mountain from Cooperstown.
Having a place with an on site resturant, a place to shower, and fuel, are
really mandatory to have a good spot to fly in to.
Cooperstown is in a beautiful part of NY, about 75 miles west of Ole
Rhinebeck Airdrome. Low mountains, lots of hay fields, cool weather, but
the weather can rise up to bite in that area if one is not careful.
One of the first places I flew, after arriving at Bert's from Homer's, was
following Bert's Honeybee south down the lake and right over the little
village of Cooperstown. We flew for a week at Bert's and another week at
the Flight Farm, before departing for Oshkosh 1989. Those were terrific
times to be flying a little airplane.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
Thanks John but it's not the 196 I saw. This one had the map in the center,
with flight information on the sides and top. Similar to the Chelton system.
I thought it was the new Lowrance 1000 but their web site does not contain
a picture of that page setup. I will keep looking in my mags if the wife did
not throw it away.
You are right, the 196 is a great machine, I especially like the runway
extension. I was drawn to the Lowrance because of the obstruction database.
Larry
"Aviation is not inherently dangerous, but... ."
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| Subject: | To all the past stores |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
Weather it John H or Rick, John W anybody else you got to enjoy the adventures
of reading these stores of the past . and there travels and seeing some
real engineering in the building go on . thanks guys I love it for what
it worth Larry G
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II questions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: MEMATUZAK@aol.com
FSII data
flying speeds 45-65 comfortable 70 is pushing it for me
fuel consump. 2.5 gal./hr. on average. At 50-55 mph and 4500rpm just sight
seeing 2 GPH. 2 hours of flying and I can see where I'm going to land.
This is a FSII 503 sc 5 gal of fuel 190 lb pilot.
Too much fun:)
mike matuszczak
palm coast FL
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Folks:
Cuz'n P'fer, my 1987 Firestar, original, made the front page of the Oshkosh
newspaper. We were downwind, flying to the north along Hwy 41, in the
Ultralight Pattern. Never knew the picture was made until someone Jim
Leonard, son of the owner of the 1989 Sun and Fun Grand Champion Ultralight,
a MiniMax, brought me a copy of the newspaper.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Front%20Page.jpg
The caption says something about ultralights at Oshkosh flying early morning
and late evening because the winds are calmer. No one told Cuz'n P'fer
about those time restrictions.
Take care,
john h
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