---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/29/04: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:23 AM - Re: Re: Super Kolbra Update (BICUM@aol.com) 2. 04:57 AM - Re: Re: Super Kolbra Update (ronnie wehba) 3. 05:57 AM - just wonderin' (Bob Bean) 4. 06:24 AM - Re: Fly to Homer's (Denny Rowe) 5. 07:34 AM - Wellsville or bust! (artdog1512) 6. 07:49 AM - Fathers Day fly-in (Terry) 7. 07:51 AM - Re: Fly to Homer's (Richard Pike) 8. 10:01 AM - Re: Fathers Day fly-in (Eugene Zimmerman) 9. 11:33 AM - Paul petty (Judy or Larry Gitt) 10. 11:56 AM - Kolbra (Judy or Larry Gitt) 11. 12:50 PM - Re: Paul petty (Paul Petty) 12. 03:29 PM - Re: Fly to Homer's (Steven Green) 13. 03:31 PM - Will Uribe (Bill Vincent) 14. 04:15 PM - Re: Will Uribe (WillUribe@aol.com) 15. 04:36 PM - Re: Fathers Day fly-in (Thom Riddle) 16. 05:00 PM - flooding (Aaron Hollingsworth) 17. 05:30 PM - Kolbra owner (Paul Petty) 18. 06:06 PM - Re: flooding (Robert Laird) 19. 06:19 PM - Re: flooding (Thom Riddle) 20. 06:24 PM - Re: flooding (Edward Chmielewski) 21. 06:58 PM - It made it... (Mike Pierzina) 22. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: flooding (Don Gherardini) 23. 08:21 PM - NE gathering (Chuck Davis - Comcast) 24. 09:18 PM - Flooded Engine (John Hauck) 25. 10:05 PM - Re: Will Uribe (Denny Rowe) 26. 10:20 PM - Fw: [sonextalk] Fw: [Fw: FW: Men & Tools] (Denny Rowe) 27. 10:24 PM - Re: Re: Fathers Day fly-in (Denny Rowe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:22 AM PST US From: BICUM@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Super Kolbra Update --> Kolb-List message posted by: BICUM@aol.com That is just great John W. Now I'm back in your wake turbulence. I am putting the final pitch adjustment on my new Warp. I was walking around with my chest poked out thinking " man, with this new prop I'll be able to hang with the other John's now". Then you go and post numbers like that. I was really seeing some improvement with my new prop but nothing like those numbers. Because of the Evil twin's (Work & Weather), I haven't had a chance to fly enough to do a thorough job of testing and checking of numbers. It has improved my TO, climb, and cruise. Just a rough measure, but my airspeeds are 8 - 10 knots ( 9 - 12 MPH) faster at the same RPM settings as with the IVO. That is compared to similar winter performance. I still have a 1/2 degree pitch adjustment to go. I'm about 5000 rpm static and only 5200 WOT level cruise. On our next trip, would you be willing to carry my tent? That would give you something to do while you are waiting on me to land!!!! Now that I think about it, this could work out OK. Come on MAY! DO NOT ARCHIVE Thanks & be careful, John Bickham St. Francisville, LA Kolb Mark III Classic - 912 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:52 AM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Super Kolbra Update required 5, BAYES_00) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" golly john, If there was any way I could make it, I would have to leave a day ahead of you, just don't think my old ultra can be pushed that fast??? LOL ron w in very windy west tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Super Kolbra Update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: BICUM@aol.com > > That is just great John W. > > Now I'm back in your wake turbulence. I am putting the final pitch > adjustment on my new Warp. I was walking around with my chest poked out thinking " > man, with this new prop I'll be able to hang with the other John's now". Then > you go and post numbers like that. I was really seeing some improvement with my > new prop but nothing like those numbers. Because of the Evil twin's (Work & > Weather), I haven't had a chance to fly enough to do a thorough job of testing > and checking of numbers. It has improved my TO, climb, and cruise. Just a > rough measure, but my airspeeds are 8 - 10 knots ( 9 - 12 MPH) faster at the > same RPM settings as with the IVO. That is compared to similar winter > performance. I still have a 1/2 degree pitch adjustment to go. I'm about 5000 rpm > static and only 5200 WOT level cruise. > > On our next trip, would you be willing to carry my tent? That would give you > something to do while you are waiting on me to land!!!! Now that I think > about it, this could work out OK. > > Come on MAY! > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > Thanks & be careful, > > John Bickham > St. Francisville, LA > Kolb Mark III Classic - 912 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:33 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Kolb-List: just wonderin' --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean Has anyone adapted FI to Rotax 912 series engines? Acknowledging the carbs work fine but seems this would be a prime candidate. -BB, MkIII, in storage, one flat tire, no mice or squirrels. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:17 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly to Homer's --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Kolb-List: Fly to Homer's > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > I am starting to get serious about going to Homer Kolb's strip over > Father's Day weekend. Think about it. We could fly together. I will be > asking Vince Nicely (Firestar II) if he wants to go with us. > rp > > > Richard, others, Check out Footlight Ranch on line to get all the info on the Fathers Day Fly-in, seems like meeting up there, and taking a mass side trip to see Mr Kolb would be a mighty fine way to salute the father of these Great machines we are so proud of. Denny Rowe, Leechburg, PA ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:23 AM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: Wellsville or bust! --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:13 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Fly to Homer's --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike I am starting to get serious about going to Homer Kolb's strip over Father's Day weekend. Think about it. We could fly together. I will be asking Vince Nicely (Firestar II) if he wants to go with us. rp yeah let's do it!! i fly out of Shoestring, about 40 minutes S.E. of Wellsville. i've been to the Father's Day fly-in many times over the past 10 years. ..... let's hope we don't have the weather we've had the past few years...... tim- FireFly do not archive __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:24 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Kolb-List: Fathers Day fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Eugene, Bob, Eugene, Richard, Denny and all others, I will act as the contact person if that's what the gang wants. The Wellsville Fathers Day Fly-In is a long established event that runs the whole weekend. We could meet there and then if possible make at journey to Homer's. There is a good stop off airport on the way at Smoketown, Lancaster County that is UL friendly. If you want more information on Wellsville go to their web page at footlightranch.com and hit Mason-Dixion Ultralight Fly-in or the others. The information is for last years fly-in which was canceled because of weather, but you can explore the facilities available and get the data about the airstrip there. I know they would welcome a good group of new Kolb's arriving there! Terry - FireFly #95 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:19 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly to Homer's --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Actually, I was trying to send this one specifically to Steve Green, He lives about an hour and a half southwest of me, and if he went, he would have to fly right by here, but I put the wrong address in. Oh well... do not archive Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 12:48 AM 1/29/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > >I am starting to get serious about going to Homer Kolb's strip over >Father's Day weekend. Think about it. We could fly together. I will be >asking Vince Nicely (Firestar II) if he wants to go with us. >rp > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:46 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fathers Day fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman Thanks Terry, You da man! Just don't pray quite so hard for rain this year, OK? :-) Terry wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry > > Eugene, Bob, Eugene, Richard, Denny and all others, > > I will act as the contact person if that's what the gang wants. The > Wellsville Fathers Day Fly-In is a long established event that runs the > whole weekend. We could meet there and then if possible make at journey > to Homer's. There is a good stop off airport on the way at Smoketown, > Lancaster County that is UL friendly. > > If you want more information on Wellsville go to their web page at > footlightranch.com and hit Mason-Dixion Ultralight Fly-in or the > others. The information is for last years fly-in which was canceled > because of weather, but you can explore the facilities available and get > the data about the airstrip there. > I know they would welcome a good group of new Kolb's arriving there! > > Terry - FireFly #95 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:40 AM PST US From: "Judy or Larry Gitt" Subject: Kolb-List: Paul petty --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" I wonder if you got all the consturction Pictures i sent to you of my kolbra as i never did get a reply ? As i was wondering what was going on after sending all them to you .As i sure was wondering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ??? larry G ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:30 AM PST US From: "Judy or Larry Gitt" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" I think you got a hot rod now for a kolb , It sure sounds like it be a fun ride full power on stall, WoW::::::::: What is the empty weight with 912 on it now ?? What it is like to fly level at 110 as i have to dive mind to get to that speed ? Look out guys , John will be all over this county now and in no time , good work John . Larry G ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:48 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Paul petty required 4.6, BAYES_00 -4.90) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Got em Larry. Thanks do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy or Larry Gitt" Subject: Kolb-List: Paul petty > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" > > I wonder if you got all the consturction Pictures i sent to you of my kolbra as i never did get a reply ? As i was wondering what was going on after sending all them to you .As i sure was wondering;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ??? larry G > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:11 PM PST US From: "Steven Green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fly to Homer's --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" Richard and all, I have a new I-net provider and my new address in kolbdriver@bellsouth.net I have been following the talk about a trip to Homer's place with great inertest. Last year I started a trip to the sentimental journey fly-in with a return trip by Homer's but the weather didn,t cooperate and KY is as far as I got. I am having a personal problem with priorities and time management, I have only flown 5.4 hours since the Kolb homecoming/ Kittyhawk trip. Building a house should not interfer with flying. Oh well wishfull thinking. I hope to be moved in by May at the latest and resume the more important activities in life FLYING. Steven ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:31:08 PM PST US From: Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: Will Uribe --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Hi gang Has anyone heard how Will is doing ? Bill and Anna Vincent DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:37 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Will Uribe --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Hi Bill, I'm in lurking mode, got out of the hospital on Monday. The good news is the tumor the doctors removed was not cancer. Eating with no problem but in very small quantities. If I keep loosing weight I'm will need to add counter weights on the nose of my FireStar. I will be on sick leave for about 6 weeks. My next assignment will be in Miami, Florida for 4 weeks. If there are any Kolb owners in the area let me know and we'll try to meet up. Thanks for asking Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ http://members.aol.com/talinamorenop/ Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: Will Uribe --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Hi gang Has anyone heard how Will is doing ? Bill and Anna Vincent DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:36:08 PM PST US From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fathers Day fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" Now that John W. has a really fast airplane I was wondering if you guys would mind if I came to the Wellsville Fly-in in my Cherokee. It is not much faster than John's Super Kolbra now. I've already got other plans for that weekend which would prevent me from making that long round-trip in the early FS/377 but would allow me to come in the Cherokee. Both Wellsville and Kolb's place would accommodate a LTOL airplane like the Cherokee. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:04 PM PST US From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" Subject: Kolb-List: flooding --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" I think I flooded my 618 today. I recall the previous owner warning me not to prime it or only once when the weather is warmer (like today)... of course I forgot and gave it a good 3 pushes of the primer. Now trying to recover from flooding it, I was unable :/ I first pulled the back plug in each cylinder. They were a little wet, but not dripping. I blew them off with my air compressor and put them back in. About 10-15 minutes had passed by this point. I tried again, no go.... So I did the same to the front plug in each, tried again... no go. Next I called up the previous owner... got a couple tips to try; pulled all four, opened full throttle and while plugs are out cranked it over 10-15 times. Blew off all four plugs. Put em back in.. tried again... no go. during this whole time the engine never even started to crank over. Plenty of amps on battery (12.9 and even hooked up to charger for last few tests). The starter motor did great... just as fast as it always is when it starts up. Now, I am pretty sure that I did flood it... but logic is telling me that I should have been able to recover without letting it sit overnight? Hopefully it will start up tomorrow without issue. this is the first time it hasn't started in 4-5 turns. Any suggestions on how to recover should I flood it again int the future? Aaron ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:24 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra owner --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Kolbers, Any of you ever hear of a fella named Art from FL that has a Kolbra and a Firestar up north? I met a Ran's pilot in the yahoo hanger that knows this gent. With only 12 Kolbra's out there, mine being number 12 sure would like to learn of the other 7 that are either in the building stage or collecting dust... Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:54 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: flooding --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 06:59 PM 1/29/2004, you wrote: >recover without letting it sit overnight? Hopefully it will start up >tomorrow without issue. this is the first time it hasn't started in 4-5 >turns. Any suggestions on how to recover should I flood it again int the >future? Replace the plugs with new ones, properly gapped. -- R ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:17 PM PST US From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: flooding --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" I've had success in clearing flooded engines by doing most of the things you mentioned, Aaron, plus burn out the rich fuel mixture in the cylinder with a long reach lighter; the kind that has a trigger and long skinny tube where the flame comes out of the end of the tube. One difference in your procedure though. Crank the engine w/o plugs and throttle completely closed, not open. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:50 PM PST US From: "Edward Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: flooding --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" Hi Aaron, Is there spark? Sounds like it's not even trying, did you get any indication it wanted to fire? Pull 1 plug from each cylinder, connect to the plug wire, crank the engine with the base of the plug in contact with the engine to create the ground path. Best done with as little light as possible, close the hangar door. Spark should be strong and blue. If not, suspect the ignition circuit. Good luck with it. Ed in JXN MkII/503 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" Subject: Kolb-List: flooding > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" > > I think I flooded my 618 today. I recall the previous owner warning me not to prime it or only once when the weather is warmer (like today)... of course I forgot and gave it a good 3 pushes of the primer. Now trying to recover from flooding it, I was unable :/ > (Snip) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:55 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: It made it... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Guys, My Web site is on the Kolb web page now... In the "Builders Sites" I thought they would have slipped it in with the Firestar section.... I also thought they were going to remove some of the sites that are dead ends...maybe they don't know about them... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Do not Archive PS...20 below Zero this morning...Glad I've got a Heated Garage ! http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:41 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: flooding --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Thom....Aaron... AS far as the cranking on a flooded engine....with a slide carb....when the slide is down at the idle position ..or close...the manifold vaccuum willbe high at slow cranking speed...and the carbs will flow more fuel than they will when the slide is up...WOT..at slow cranking speed. When the slide is up the Manifold vaccuum is very low...and very little fuel will be pulled thru the jets. I would change the plugs...as already recommended. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:41 PM PST US From: "Chuck Davis - Comcast" Subject: Kolb-List: NE gathering --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Davis - Comcast" I am definately in for a Wellsville / Homer fly-in. It's already been cleared with the "boss". I now commute over from Princeton, NJ to the next town over from Phoenixville. Every morning I see the cooling tower from the Nuke plant that some one mentioned is just across the river from "the farm." The tower and the column of steam certainly will make it easy to find! Regarding fuel, being one of the "locals" I guess I'll volunteer to have a few gallons cached in advance if the "planning staff" receives some requests and can secure permission from Homer. I'm already looking forward to seeing Richard, Bob, Denny, Gene, Earl, Russel and anyone else. Chuck > Time: 05:10:55 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: NE gathering --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > >> >> The Wellsville Fathers Day fly in will have at least a half a dozen >> or >> more local Kolb drivers if the weather is flyable. Some of us would >> be >> happy to join a Homer farm ambush. Lots of other local grass strips >> in >> the area too. >> >> Gene >> > Gene and gang, Checking on Airnav,, the flight from Wellsville to Homers is roughly 67 NM. Around 1hr. 15 min. one way , for Kolbs cruising around 65 MPH. Sounds like that could work out. Depending on some planes fuel capicity, wind conditions, and reserve, arrangements may need to be made for fuel at Homers. Fly Safe Bob Griffin Upstate NY > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:49:13 PM PST US > From: Richard Pike > Subject: Kolb-List: Fly to Homer's > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > I am starting to get serious about going to Homer Kolb's strip over > Father's Day weekend. Think about it. We could fly together. I will be > asking Vince Nicely (Firestar II) if he wants to go with us. > rp > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:11 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Flooded Engine --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Hi Gang: Well, ............ here's the way I do it, four stroke or two stroke, real airplane engine or not. There is a little different procedure for electric and manual start. Manual Start: 1. Switch off. 2. Throttle full. 3. Pull it through vigorously three or four or five times. 4. Throttle closed. 5. Switch on. 6. Pull it through and start. 7. If it doesn't start because the engine is cold, then open enricher, leave throttle shut, switch on, and pull it through to start. Electric Start: 1. Full throttle. 2. Be sure the pilot is in the seat. 3. Hit the starter until it starts firing, reducing power as the engine clears itself. Doesn't normally require removing plugs, replacing plugs, unless you really screwed them up. Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:05:42 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Will Uribe --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" . If I keep loosing weight I'm will need to add counter > weights on the nose of my FireStar. > Thanks for asking > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, TX > FireStar II N4GU > C-172 N2506U > http Will, If you make it back to Pittsburgh this summer, we'll do our best to put some meat back on your bones, I can taste the burgers tomatoes and sweet corn now. :-) Take Care , Denny PS: I'll even throw in a Mk-3 ride. ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:48 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: [sonextalk] Fw: [Fwd: FW: Men & Tools] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Kolbers, I got this from the Sonex list, thought you folks would enjoy it too. Denny I thought I'd send this on for all the newbies to warn them about what tools are really for. Matt ----- Original Message ----- > > > -----Original Message > > > > > > > > >Men and tools: > > > > > >HAMMER: > > >Originally employed as a weapon of war, > > >the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to > > >locate expensive parts not far from the object we are trying to hit. > > > > > >ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: > > >Normally used for spinning steel Pop rivets in their holes > > >until you die of old age, but it also works great for drilling > > >mounting holes in fenders just above the brake line that goes > > >to the rear wheel. > > > > > >PLIERS: > > >Used to round off bolt heads. > > > > > >HACKSAW: > > >One of a family of cutting tools built on the original sin principle. > > >It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, > > >and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more > > >dismal your future becomes. > > > > > >VISE-GRIPS: > > >Used to round off bolt heads. > > >If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer > > >intense welding heat to the palm of your hand. > > > > > >OXYACETYLENE TORCH: > > >Used almost entirely for setting various flammable > > >objects in your garage on fire. Also handy for igniting the > > >grease inside a brake drum you're trying to get > > >the bearing race out of. > > > > > >DRILL PRESS: > > >A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal > > >bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings > > >your coffee across the room, splattering it against that freshly painted > > >part you were drying. > > > > > >WIRE WHEEL: > > >Cleans rust off old bolts and then throws them somewhere under > > >the workbench with the speed of light. > > >Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar calluses > > >in about the time it takes you to say, "Fuc...." > > > > > >TWEEZERS: > > >A tool for removing wood splinters. > > > > > >E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: > > >A tool that snaps off in bolt > > >holes and is ten times harder than any known drill bit. > > > > > >TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: > > >A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of ground straps > > >and brake lines you may have forgotten to disconnect. > > > > > >BATTERY ELECTROLYTE TESTER: > > >A handy tool for transferring sulfuric acid from a car battery > > >to the inside of your toolbox after determining that your > > >battery is dead as a doornail, just as you thought. > > > > > >PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: > > >Normally used to stab the lids of old-style > > >paper-and-tin oil cans and splash oil on your shirt; can also be used, > > >as the name implies, to round off Phillips screw heads. > > >PRY BAR: > > >A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or > > >bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part. > > > > > >HOSE CUTTER: > > >A tool used to cut hoses 1/2 inch too short ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:43 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fathers Day fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" > > Now that John W. has a really fast airplane I was wondering if you guys would mind if I came to the Wellsville Fly-in in my Cherokee. It is not much faster than John's Super Kolbra now. I've already got other plans for that weekend which would prevent me from making that long round-trip in the early FS/377 but would allow me to come in the Cherokee. Both Wellsville and Kolb's place would accommodate a LTOL airplane like the Cherokee. > > Thom in Buffalo > I Don't mind at all Thom, I earned my private in a PA 28, I'll even take you for a Mk-3 ride to ease your pain if time allows. I just hope that we get dry weather, last summer was as soggy as I have ever seen it around here. Denny