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Sun 02/01/04


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:05 AM - UltraStar stolen on Maui  (Dave Starbuck)
     2. 06:04 AM - BMW (James, Ken)
     3. 06:16 AM - Angle Reinforcements (Mike Pierzina)
     4. 06:49 AM - Re: Wellsville ... (Thom Riddle)
     5. 06:55 AM - Re: Gps questions (Thom Riddle)
     6. 07:03 AM - Kolbra Wt. & Balance (Thom Riddle)
     7. 10:43 AM - Re: Angle Reinforcements (jerb)
     8. 12:37 PM - Re: BMW (Richard Pike)
     9. 01:29 PM - wing mods (Clay Stuart)
    10. 07:49 PM - Re: BMW (Eugene Zimmerman)
    11. 08:07 PM - [ Dave Starbuck ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
    12. 08:21 PM - [ David Starbuck ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
    13. 08:27 PM - Re: BMW (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    14. 09:16 PM - Re: [ David Starbuck ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (GeoR38@aol.com)
    15. 09:34 PM - Re: BMW (Don Gherardini)
    16. 11:52 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:05:01 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Starbuck" <npd@maui.net>
    Subject: UltraStar stolen on Maui
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Starbuck" <npd@maui.net> This scratch-built UltraStar was stolen on Maui the 26th of January 04. It has a new 447 with a three blade Ivo prop. Please call 808 878 2469 with leads. Thanks, Dave


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    Time: 06:04:35 AM PST US
    From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
    Subject: BMW
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> I'm looking at this engine on E-Bay Any thoughts from the group _ I want to power a MK III Extra Description BMW R100 aircraft engine with true dual CDI ignition, electric start, 2.58:1 belt reduction drive, 2 Bing 54 carburetors. 75 Horsepower @ 6400 RPM. weighs 118 lbs. Previously on gyrocopter. New internal components. Total of 5 hours running time. Ken <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <META NAME"Generator" CONTENT"MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> BMW I'm looking at this engine on E-Bay Any thoughts from the group _ I want to power a MK III Extra Description BMW R100 aircraft engine with true dual CDI ignition, electric start, 2.58:1 belt reduction drive, 2 Bing 54 carburetors. 75 Horsepower @ 6400 RPM. weighs 118 lbs. Previously on gyrocopter. New internal components. Total of 5 hours running time. Ken


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    Time: 06:16:51 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
    Subject: Angle Reinforcements
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> Hey Guys / Paul, What's up with the 4-5 ribs on your wing ? Does the print call for that many of them to be reinforced with extra angles? If it doesn't you might be making a STRESS POINT...Seems like you might be BOXING it and forcing the stress at the lift strut. Just curious...maybe it's suppose to be that way.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN PS I had a DREAM last night, that I took my first flight in my Firestar II (It wasn't a nightmare) Do not archive --- Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html


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    Time: 06:49:01 AM PST US
    From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Wellsville ...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Tim and all, Indeed there is plenty of length at Wellsville. My concern was if it is soggy like I hear it was last year, then I can't land there and will have to use a paved runway, 'cuz Tundra tires won't fit inside my wheelpants :-) nor do they fit my flying partners' idea of a sleek "fast" aeroplane. If it is dry then absolutely no problem at all. Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 06:55:20 AM PST US
    From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Gps questions
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> John H. ........I have always attached the three GPS units I have had over the years to my left thigh with a 2" velcro strap. I've never met you but you must have a mighty big leg to strap three GPSs there :-) Mine won't hold but one or maybe two. Thom in Buffalo do not archive


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    Time: 07:03:43 AM PST US
    From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Kolbra Wt. & Balance
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> I am looking for a 2-seat TANDEM trainer to teach my son-in-law to fly in and need to know wt. & balance data for Kolbras with the heavy engines such as the 912. If anyone has a spreadsheet with their particular information I would appreciate getting a copy of it. If not in a spreadsheet format, that is okay...just need the datum locations of front and back seats, fuel, main gear, tail gear wts. and datum locations. I can forsee a situation where a heavy instructor(me) in the back with a light weight student in the front exceeding the aft CG limit. Thanks for your input. Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 10:43:50 AM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Angle Reinforcements
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Paul, I agree with Mike, if your not building it to plans and adding reinforcements thinking your strengthening the wing you would be changing the stress points and could introduce failure. The wings have been analyzed as designed - alternating them could prove to be fatal. jerrb do not archive At 09:16 AM 2/1/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> > >Hey Guys / Paul, > > What's up with the 4-5 ribs on your wing ? > Does the print call for that many of them to be reinforced with extra > angles? > If it doesn't you might be making a STRESS POINT...Seems like you might > be BOXING it and forcing the stress at the lift strut. > Just curious...maybe it's suppose to be that way.... > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > PS I had a DREAM last night, that I took my first flight in my Firestar > II (It wasn't a nightmare) > >Do not archive >--- >Sometimes you just have to take the leap >and build your wings on the way down... > Gotta Fly... > >http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > >


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    Time: 12:37:22 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: BMW
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> I think I am going to ask the owner a bunch of questions, which I will post to the list. I have thought about a BMW for some time, and that one looks worth a second look. The engine in question is at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&item =2456577019 I would also appreciate input pro/con from the list. (PS to Ken - If you decide you want it, you saw it first, let me know and I won't bid on it) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 09:02 AM 2/1/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" ><KDJames@berkscareer.com> > >I'm looking at this engine on E-Bay Any thoughts from the group _ I want to >power a MK III Extra > > Description >BMW R100 aircraft engine with true dual CDI ignition, electric start, 2.58:1 >belt reduction drive, 2 Bing 54 carburetors. 75 Horsepower @ 6400 RPM. >weighs 118 lbs. Previously on gyrocopter. New internal components. Total of >5 hours running time. > >Ken


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    Time: 01:29:20 PM PST US
    From: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
    Subject: wing mods
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net> Dear Paul Petty, John Hauck and others, Paul, nice work on the wings. What is the rationale for the added angle on the ribs? What type aluminum and thickness was used for the 3/4 and 1/2" angle? I don't plan to fold my wings, but my Xtra will probably be heavy, so I may need the mods too. Thanks, Clay Stuart building Xtra Danville KY


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    Time: 07:49:52 PM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
    Subject: Re: BMW
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> Looks like an interesting project to experiment with. I would question the weight. The belt reduction looks a bit wimpy for 75HP to me in the pictures. It would be helpful if there were more picts from different angles. Richard Pike wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net> > > I think I am going to ask the owner a bunch of questions, which I will post > to the list. I have thought about a BMW for some time, and that one looks > worth a second look. > > The engine in question is at > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&item > =2456577019 > > I would also appreciate input pro/con from the list. > > (PS to Ken - If you decide you want it, you saw it first, let me know and I > won't bid on it) > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > do not archive > > At 09:02 AM 2/1/04 -0500, you wrote: > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" >><KDJames@berkscareer.com> >> >>I'm looking at this engine on E-Bay Any thoughts from the group _ I want to >>power a MK III Extra >> >> Description >>BMW R100 aircraft engine with true dual CDI ignition, electric start, 2.58:1 >>belt reduction drive, 2 Bing 54 carburetors. 75 Horsepower @ 6400 RPM. >>weighs 118 lbs. Previously on gyrocopter. New internal components. Total of >>5 hours running time. >> >>Ken > >


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    Time: 08:07:17 PM PST US
    Subject: [ Dave Starbuck ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Dave Starbuck <npd@maui.net> Subject: Stolen UltraStar http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/npd@maui.net.02.01.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 08:21:12 PM PST US
    Subject: [ David Starbuck ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: David Starbuck <ds@np-designcenter.com> Subject: Decisions, decisions... http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ds@np-designcenter.com.02.01.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 08:27:47 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: BMW
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> The reduction ratio looks allot higher than 2.58 to one, closer to 4 to one with that double reduction. First question would be why so much reduction with a gyro copter? Why would they sell it so quick? The double reduction seems to be prone to problems and weight. The thrust line would be kind of high for a kolb with the double reduction. If you are really considering a BMW why not go with a German conversion that is being offered with a larger CC engine, gear reduction and a clutch? Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com> > > Looks like an interesting project to experiment with. > I would question the weight. The belt reduction looks a bit wimpy for > 75HP to me in the pictures. It would be helpful if there were more > picts from different angles. > >


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    Time: 09:16:06 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: [ David Starbuck ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com There shouldn't be any decision there Dave, That looks like a Firestar KX just like mine and it looks clean. george Randolph firestar KX driver from the villages in Fla Do not archive


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    Time: 09:34:32 PM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: BMW
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Zimm....ditto what Richard says about that reduction..it looks kind cheesy to me also...and it does look like a double reduction....BUT...so far..at the price...a fella might get it bought and pitch the reduction for a better one..like those they are using in europe.....ALSo...it you buy it...fer goodness sakes...re-paint the rocker covers!!! do not archive Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm


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    Time: 11:52:12 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Lister, Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Kolb-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Kolb-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]




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