---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/02/04: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Ebay BMW (Jim Gerken) 2. 07:17 AM - BMW on E-bay (Jason Omelchuck) 3. 07:32 AM - Re: BMW (James, Ken) 4. 08:11 AM - Re: Ebay BMW (Richard Pike) 5. 09:06 AM - Re: BMW on E-bay (James, Ken) 6. 09:58 AM - BMW engine on a trike (ul15rhb@juno.com) 7. 10:13 AM - sending e-mail to Olenik Aviation (Olenik Aviation) 8. 12:14 PM - Re: BMW engine on a trike (GeoR38@aol.com) 9. 12:40 PM - Re: BMW engine on a trike (Robert Laird) 10. 01:53 PM - Re: BMW engine on a trike (Linda Rowe) 11. 03:16 PM - Re: BMW engine on a trike (Larry Bourne) 12. 03:56 PM - Re: BMW engine on a trike (Don Gherardini) 13. 04:47 PM - Re: Bi-focals (Larry Bourne) 14. 05:18 PM - Re: Bi-focals (ronnie wehba) 15. 05:32 PM - Bi-focals (Bill Vincent) 16. 05:43 PM - Re: Bi-focals (Bob N.) 17. 06:11 PM - Airstar (Dale Sellers) 18. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Gps questions (Bob) 19. 06:25 PM - Oshkosh 2004 (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 20. 06:27 PM - Re: Bi-focals (Larry Bourne) 21. 06:37 PM - Re: Gps questions (Bob) 22. 08:05 PM - Re: Airstar (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:17 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Ebay BMW From: Jim Gerken 02/02/2004 08:26:41 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken I looked at the Ebay listing for the BMW engine, currently at $1250. Here are a few observations: >It is single reduction. The other black thing is just the front of the engine I believe. It appears to be a multi-v, not a toothed-belt type. I would think that transmitting 65 Hp thru this would lead to often tightening and frequent replacement. My opinion. It does have a very high thrustline. >What year is it? There would be no traceability to the original motorcycle, to gauge the TT. "New Internal Components" could be anything. >Bing 54 carbs are slide type, not the CV carbs the engine originally ran with on the motorcycle. You are on your own for tuning. >75 HP @ 6400 rpm is a bit optimistic. >118 lbs cannot be correct. My 582 complete wet was 128, and the wife and I could just lift it off the MKiii when I sold it. We could NOT lift the BWM block back up there (not including carbs and exhaust and any ignition and no oil). >Exhaust system shown is not balanced, and ends without any muffler. I would toss it. My experiments showed a couple of HP available in the exhaust tuning. Proper power balance demands equal exhaust headers, even if not tuned. Bottom line: I spent $1100 for a low time (12000 miles) 1991 R100, all stock, hadn't been messed with. About a $1000 seems to be the norm for a crashed bike, which gets you everything you need, and then since it is a titled vehicle you get some traceability. I would judge this Ebay to be worth less due to its unknown age and wear. It could have been pieced together from parts. The stuff that is missing could easily exceed the cost of the engine. Mine did not include a reduction drive, but the "C" gearbox is the slick way to go anyway. Thrustline with "C" box is about an inch different than the 582 was (depending on your mount plate and oil pan combinations, could be an inch lower, could be an inch higher) . My bid is $700. If you are serious about the engine, perhaps a little research can clear up some of these issues, and maybe add a bit of value. I agree with Don though, that ugly blue color has to go. My 2 cents worth... Jim Gerken ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:43 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: BMW on E-bay From: "Jason Omelchuck" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" It would appear that this engine has been modified to be in the tractor (not pusher) position. On a regular BMW engine the exhaust is pointing forward and the transmission is pointing and carbs are at the rear. There is a conversion that can be done to put the cylinders on the opposite sides and then a new cam is installed, it looks like this engine has had this done. I believe the exhaust should be on the forward side for cooling reasons. This keeps the hot side of the cylinders into the wind and the cold side down wind. Jason MKIII with BMW R100 (unfinished) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:42 AM PST US From: "James, Ken" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: BMW --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" I asked the owner if it was a new engine modded to aircraft use or a used bike engine. He said it was a used bike engine with new internals ( what ever that means). I don't know enough yet about BMW conversions yet to make a bid so if anyone wants it I'm out of the race. Ken I would also appreciate input pro/con from the list. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:11 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ebay BMW --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Thanks Jim, just what I needed to hear. Think I'll stick with the 582. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 08:26 AM 2/2/04 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken > >I looked at the Ebay listing for the BMW engine, currently at $1250. Here >are a few observations: > >It is single reduction. The other black thing is just the front of the >engine I believe. It appears to be a multi-v, not a toothed-belt type. I >would think that transmitting 65 Hp thru this would lead to often >tightening and frequent replacement. My opinion. It does have a very high >thrustline. > >What year is it? There would be no traceability to the original >motorcycle, to gauge the TT. "New Internal Components" could be anything. > >Bing 54 carbs are slide type, not the CV carbs the engine originally ran >with on the motorcycle. You are on your own for tuning. > >75 HP @ 6400 rpm is a bit optimistic. > >118 lbs cannot be correct. My 582 complete wet was 128, and the wife and >I could just lift it off the MKiii when I sold it. We could NOT lift the >BWM block back up there (not including carbs and exhaust and any ignition >and no oil). > >Exhaust system shown is not balanced, and ends without any muffler. I >would toss it. My experiments showed a couple of HP available in the >exhaust tuning. Proper power balance demands equal exhaust headers, even >if not tuned. > >Bottom line: I spent $1100 for a low time (12000 miles) 1991 R100, all >stock, hadn't been messed with. About a $1000 seems to be the norm for a >crashed bike, which gets you everything you need, and then since it is a >titled vehicle you get some traceability. I would judge this Ebay to be >worth less due to its unknown age and wear. It could have been pieced >together from parts. The stuff that is missing could easily exceed the >cost of the engine. Mine did not include a reduction drive, but the "C" >gearbox is the slick way to go anyway. Thrustline with "C" box is about an >inch different than the 582 was (depending on your mount plate and oil pan >combinations, could be an inch lower, could be an inch higher) . > >My bid is $700. If you are serious about the engine, perhaps a little >research can clear up some of these issues, and maybe add a bit of value. >I agree with Don though, that ugly blue color has to go. > >My 2 cents worth... >Jim Gerken > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:31 AM PST US From: "James, Ken" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: BMW on E-bay --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" Can you guys recommend conversion sites or where to by a converted engine? Yes I know I can goggle it but if you are already working with a dealer or a conversion site your insights about problems you have faced would be better than cold calling. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Jason Omelchuck [mailto:jason@acuityinc.com] Subject: Kolb-List: BMW on E-bay --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" It would appear that this engine has been modified to be in the tractor (not pusher) position. On a regular BMW engine the exhaust is pointing forward and the transmission is pointing and carbs are at the rear. There is a conversion that can be done to put the cylinders on the opposite sides and then a new cam is installed, it looks like this engine has had this done. I believe the exhaust should be on the forward side for cooling reasons. This keeps the hot side of the cylinders into the wind and the cold side down wind. Jason MKIII with BMW R100 (unfinished) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:11 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike From: ul15rhb@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com A friend sent me this website. While on the topic of BMW engines, I thought it might be interesting. http://community-2.webtv.net/rwflyer/LibertyTrike/ Ralph ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:47 AM PST US From: "Olenik Aviation" "Powerchutes@Yahoogroups. Com" , "Engines-Ul@Yahoogroups. Com" , "FlyChallenger" Subject: Kolb-List: sending e-mail to Olenik Aviation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" Hi guys, I just talked to someone who said he had been e-mailing me several times with no response. It turns out he was using the wrong e-mail address. I use a specific e-mail address just for message groups. In addition to the hundred or so e-mails per day I get from those groups, I get maybe three times that on that same address that is nothing but junk. So if the subject line does not have the pre-fix from one of the message groups I supscribe to, it automaticly gets the delete key and will often get the delete key even with the prefix if the subject does not get my attention. This e-mail address that I use for message groups is not advertised anywhere. To e-mail us directly, use the e-mail address that we advertise on our website, in magazines and everytwhere: olenik@buyitsellitfixit.com Notice, I've had to add the message below to my signature as well. So I'm sorry if anyone has tried to contact me and got no response.... you were just using the wrong e-mail address. It makes me wonder how many others are doing this and why I'm sending this message. I can't use one e-mail address because then my important e-mails that are sent to me directly would get lost among hundreds of junk ones. Tom Olenik Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation. Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell...... (DO NOT USE THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR DIRECT E-MAIL. WE WILL NEVER SEE IT. USE THE ABOVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:17 PM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 2/2/04 12:58:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, ul15rhb@juno.com writes: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com > > > A friend sent me this website. While on the topic of BMW engines, I thought > it might be interesting. > > http://community-2.webtv.net/rwflyer/LibertyTrike/ > > Ralph > I looked at those pictures and the thought (I can only deal with one at a time) went through me that "What a great airplane that trike is" followed by ....I wonder why trikism never really caught on in the Good Ol USA, like it did in Europe. Does anyone know the pros and cons on the subject? I believe the trike is a powered extension of the first successful hang glider ......the Rogallo wing, isn't it? What was wrong with the Rogallo wing....we don't want to do aerobatics anyway, so, where are the limitations of it for just ol lazy slo flyin around the blue. I had a pterodactyl which had that severe washout that proves sooooo safe for that type of planform, just like the trikes do....... and I really liked my pterodactyl, but I DON'T think it was as good economically as the 3 axis Kolb I have now....never measured it ....just talkin. I did feel very safe in it, even though you were right out in the open just like you almost are in a Kolb. I always had the feeling that it was a bit like a leaf, that if you went too slow you really wouldn't stall per se, but just mush a bunch ....also similar to a kolb. (although a Kolb will get closer to a real stall easier than the Dac.) For example, once I got too slow and too low in the dac and didn't have enough airspeed to pull up before hitting the ground in a landing situation, and hit the ground soooo hard that the Dac bounced almost staight up in the air about 6 feet. When it came down again, as most mass is won't to do, it wasn't aligned so perfectly with the ground so well and hit hard on one wheel.....and broke the fiberglas gear...if you can call it that. No damage to me, and $25 later it was fixed and flying again with a new 1" gear rod. The point is ...it acted like a parachute, because I SURE was not flyin it after the first bounce. This feature seems to be a plus to me. George Randolph Firestar Driver from the Villages ps....now that I'm south, you northern drivers decided to do a X country without me, just after I left the area.....geeeez do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:51 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird >Does anyone know the pros and cons on the subject? I owned a trike for a while. You can view my story about it on http://Texas-Flyer.com ... From a purely intellectual point-of-view, the trike is pretty safe for our kind of flying. But -- as you'll find out if you read my story -- from an emotional point-of-view, having a rigid wing makes a lot of difference to me, especially in terms of the _feeling_ of safety. Plus, if you ever stall the trike in such a way as to create a "tumble", it's extremely unlike you'll recover from it (even with a BRS) and you'll likely die. In Europe it's popular, I believe, because of the lack of cost effective hangar space: the wing can be folded up, put on top of the car and the "chariot" placed on a trailer and they take it home. I've read all kinds of stories about how they fly in groups all the time, and fly through clouds for 15-30 at a time, and kinds of crazy stuff because their weather is often bad. I'm not trying to characterize ALL Europeans or trike drivers here... these are just things I've encountered while I was flying trikes. -- Robert DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:48 PM PST US From: "Linda Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Linda Rowe" > > I looked at those pictures and the thought (I can only deal with one at a > time) went through me that "What a great airplane that trike is" followed by > ....I wonder why trikism never really caught on in the Good Ol USA, like it did in > Europe. > > George, Trikes are a cool mode of aviating and just about as portable as an aircraft can get. The wings are developed many many generations beyond the early Rogalla concept. The only concern I have with em is my impression of a lack of pilot protection in the event of a ground accident, seems to me that the wing has a huge amount of leaverage to put that cross bar through your chest and the rest of the hang cage is not near as robust as somthing like our Kolbs. Just wouldn't want to do an endover in a trike. (or anything else now that I think about it). > George Randolph > Firestar Driver from the Villages > > ps....now that I'm south, you northern drivers decided to do a X country > without me, just after I left the area.....geeeez > do not archive > > PS PS: Sorry about that George, but I only finished my Kolb last Summer. :-) Maybe you should take a northern vacation this year and join us? Denny Rowe, Mk-3, near Pittsburgh, PA ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:13 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Very good page, Robert. I really like the looks of that DigiFly unit. Wasn't someone asking about GPS's just the other day ?? I like my Garmin GPSmap 196 just fine, but if I were buying again, that big screen looks very good, and I would take a long, hard look at it. These ol' eyes are having a little more trouble these days. (do they make quad-focal :-) glasses ??) Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > > > >Does anyone know the pros and cons on the subject? > > I owned a trike for a while. You can view my story about it on > http://Texas-Flyer.com ... > > From a purely intellectual point-of-view, the trike is pretty safe for our ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:45 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Lar.....""These ol' eyes are having a little more trouble these days. (do they make quad-focal :-) glasses ??)""""snip... Ya pard they make em...they call em progressives..I got em...trouble is ya need to get a grease zerk installed in your neck when ya get em!!! stiffnecked Don.... DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:51 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" You young, clear-eyed whippersnappers can hit "delete" right now. I changed the subject line, too. I bin called stiff-necked more'n once, too, but I think it was related more to my nickname of Stub-Bourne than glasses. Actually, I have graduated bi-focals, too, and over several pairs, (and a by-the-book - stiffnecked - optometrist) have learned a little. Yah, even me. Anyway, when they make those glasses, they figure how far away the average person is going to use them to read with, and configure the close-up (bottom) portion of the lenses to match that. Trouble is, I read with my book held closer than average, and I had trouble making them work. On my 2nd pair, optometrist and I had at it a bit, and the glasses STill didn't work..........he'd made them to the "standard" spec, in spite of what I wanted. For my 3rd, and present, pair, I had a talk with the new guy , and threatened mayhem (and non-payment) if I didn't get my way. He was agree-able, and THIS pair have initial focus at about 12"..........closer than even I read. This allows me to focus right in on detail work; read comfortably at ANY distance, clearly see an aircraft instrument panel, and still see clearly at distance. Quite often, I'll lift the glasses with a finger, to see straight ahead thru the close-up portion when working on something, so's not to need that zerk in my neck. We've gone thru this topic before, and I well know that some of you don't like, and won't have graduated glasses, and that's fine...........your choice. I have them, love them, had standard bifocals, (still have 'em) hated them, (and don't use 'em anymore) and I'm happy now, too. I throw this out there only for thought and consideration by other old farts like me. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > Lar.....""These ol' eyes are having a > little more trouble these days. (do they make quad-focal :-) glasses > ??)""""snip... > > > Ya pard they make em...they call em progressives..I got em...trouble is ya > need to get a grease zerk installed in your neck when ya get em!!! > > stiffnecked Don.... > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:11 PM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals required 5, BAYES_00) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" WOW, Larry, sure glad you are happy now!!,ron in tx. later cold and windy here, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > You young, clear-eyed whippersnappers can hit "delete" right now. > I changed the subject line, too. > > I bin called stiff-necked more'n once, too, but I think it was related more > to my nickname of Stub-Bourne than glasses. Actually, I have graduated > bi-focals, too, and over several pairs, (and a by-the-book - stiffnecked - > optometrist) have learned a little. Yah, even me. Anyway, when they make > those glasses, they figure how far away the average person is going to use > them to read with, and configure the close-up (bottom) portion of the lenses > to match that. Trouble is, I read with my book held closer than average, > and I had trouble making them work. On my 2nd pair, optometrist and I had > at it a bit, and the glasses STill didn't work..........he'd made them to > the "standard" spec, in spite of what I wanted. For my 3rd, and present, > pair, I had a talk with the new guy , and threatened mayhem (and > non-payment) if I didn't get my way. He was agree-able, and THIS pair have > initial focus at about 12"..........closer than even I read. This allows me > to focus right in on detail work; read comfortably at ANY distance, clearly > see an aircraft instrument panel, and still see clearly at distance. Quite > often, I'll lift the glasses with a finger, to see straight ahead thru the > close-up portion when working on something, so's not to need that zerk in my > neck. We've gone thru this topic before, and I well know that > some of you don't like, and won't have graduated glasses, and that's > fine...........your choice. I have them, love them, had standard bifocals, > (still have 'em) hated them, (and don't use 'em anymore) and I'm happy now, > too. I throw this out there only for thought and consideration by other old > farts like me. Lar. Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Gherardini" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW engine on a trike > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > > > Lar.....""These ol' eyes are having a > > little more trouble these days. (do they make quad-focal :-) glasses > > ??)""""snip... > > > > > > Ya pard they make em...they call em progressives..I got em...trouble is ya > > need to get a grease zerk installed in your neck when ya get em!!! > > > > stiffnecked Don.... > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:53 PM PST US From: Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: Bi-focals --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Larry Thanks for the advice. The young whipper snappers have no idea what they are in for, I used to read micrometers at work with 1 eye tied behind my back, now I cannot see them with 4 eyes. The worst part, it seemed to happen overnight. Bill Vincent Firestar II Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:32 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." I've had bi-and trifocals fer more than 40 yrs, and had to go to the mat several (every) time had new lenses made. Told the measuring-mech what distances I wanted, and would only pay for glasses that were made that way. A close-up for reading books, charts, newspapers--a mid lense for seeing the instrument panel in GA, and the far-things fer looking outside. And the bottom sectors with no tint. Measured the distances I wanted, and pressured the mechanic to adhere to these specs. Now I have the mid-range sectors made to see the panel, kinda far away, on the FireFly. Just gotta be firm--no pay for no see-um. Bob N. http:www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:05 PM PST US From: "Dale Sellers" Subject: Kolb-List: Airstar --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" Anybody know anything about a company called Airstar? They used to handle parts for the Cuyuna engines. The last address I have for them is www.800-airstar.com but it doesn't take me there any more. Dale Sellers Georgia do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:49 PM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Gps questions --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob" Hi Tom, I have the Lowrance Airmap 100. It has the Aviation database in it. It also comes with alot of accessories including yoke mount. Mine has worked very well. The new Airmap 500 came out around the first of the year which has driven down the cost of the Airmap 100. I have seen some new ones on Ebay from JA Incorporated. Probably can be had for around 300.00 dollars. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gps questions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" > > John H. > > ........I have always attached the three GPS > units I have had over the years to my left thigh with a 2" velcro strap. > > I've never met you but you must have a mighty big leg to strap three GPSs there :-) Mine won't hold but one or maybe two. > > Thom in Buffalo > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:41 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2004 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Scott I keep forgetting to answer you kind offer. I had a super time last year in god's country and flying with you to Oshkosh. I'm honored to have you offer a stop over at your place again. It was super flying in a flight of five into Oshkosh and it would be nice to have at least that many this year. It appears the Johns will be in Alaska instead of Oshkosh. How about Bill Vincent and the rest of Iron Mountain group, are you guys interested in flying along??? Maybe we can talk Uncle Craig and some others in meeting at Iron Mountain or some other place for a mass Kolb flight into Oshkosh. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Trask" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NE Kolb Homecoming > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask > > on 1/26/04 3:34 PM, Richard & Martha Neilsen at NeilsenRM@comcast.net wrote: > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > > > > > > This sounds interesting but around July 4th isn't good for me and near the > > end of July I will be heading for Oshkosh. Which brings to mind an earlier > > post of mine about getting a group to fly into Oshkosh this year. Anyone > > interested??? > > > > Rick Neilsen > > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Rowe" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NE Kolb Homecoming > > > Hi Rick and list > I'll be planning on flying in again into OSH this year. It will be my 12th > year on flying in. You're more than welcome to stop here again and fly in > with me. Rick, I'll even cut a few more tree limbs off for you. John W. I'll > cut some more ferns at the end of the runway for you. Those Alaskan > travelers could swing in on their way back from Alaska (with whale blubber > on their breaths). There's always fresh venison here in the U.P. ( NOT > freezer burned, John H.). I do realize that it would be a little far north > for you guys coming from Alaska, but know that you are welcome. > The Homecoming gathering would be nice. As long as the group doesn't stay > too long. I would think everyone could meet someplace else and everybody > could fly in together, if this wasn't already thought of. > You guys in the N.E. should gather at the week-long Yankee fly-in in July. > I haven't gone in 3 years. We were attending every year prior to that. It's > a great time! > > Scott Trask IMT > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:03 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Huh ?? 'D I come on too strong ?? Again ?? :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > > WOW, Larry, sure glad you are happy now!!,ron in tx. later cold and windy > here, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bourne" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bi-focals > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > > > You young, clear-eyed whippersnappers can hit "delete" right now. > > I changed the subject line, too. > > > > I bin called stiff-necked more'n once, too, but I think it was related > more > > to my nickname of Stub-Bourne than ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:04 PM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Gps questions --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob" Sorry, My email was in response to Dons question on which GPS has the aviation database. Not Tom. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Kolb-List: Gps questions > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > Hey Gang....I am haveing a hard time trying to figger out which GPS > handhelds have the ability to use the aviation data base so you can just > punch in the airport letter identifier...like OSH....or MTO...or what ever,, > and it will find the location for you. I have been using a magellen > meridan...which I like do to the large screen (for a hand held)...but it > does not have this capability. > > A fella mentioned the Garmin GPS V the other day..and they seem reasonably > priced...will they do this...I went to the Garmin website and it does not > mention this....now I figgered that the Aviation GPS's they list will surely > do this...but will any others? > > Now I know John H mentioned a garmin 196....hows the readability John?...the > screen big enough to see ok? > > Don Gherardini > FireFly 098 > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:30 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airstar --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike There may be more than one "Airstar" company, so I don't want to wrongly slander anybody, but - I and several others locally at one time ordered various items from a company called "Airstar Discount Sales" that always had a big spread right in the middle of "Ultralight Flying" magazine, and they were a source of great trouble, used parts in place of new, and parts that were claimed to be Genuine Rotax Parts that were not. Those people were Bad News. If they are the ones you are looking for, be thankful you are not finding them. You might order parts for a Cuyuna and get parts for a Yugo. Not sure what you are looking for, but Olenik Aviation is a good place to start, & I have had good results from Central Snowmobile Supply, they sell and repair Cuyuna 340 & 440 engines. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:10 PM 2/2/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > >Anybody know anything about a company called Airstar? They used to handle >parts for the Cuyuna engines. >The last address I have for them is www.800-airstar.com but it doesn't >take me there any more. > >Dale Sellers >Georgia >do not archive > >