---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/03/04: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:58 AM - Re: Flight Farm 1989 (GeoR38@aol.com) 2. 04:11 AM - Wellsville PA fly-in (Airgriff2@aol.com) 3. 06:20 AM - Re: Airstar (Olenik Aviation) 4. 06:48 AM - BMW dealers ? (Jim Gerken) 5. 09:31 AM - Re: Wellsville PA fly-in (Terry) 6. 09:35 AM - Re: Airstar (Terry) 7. 10:17 AM - GPS in largement of screen (Judy or Larry Gitt) 8. 10:27 AM - Re: BMW dealers ? (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 9. 10:34 AM - Engine of with two differnt HP (Judy or Larry Gitt) 10. 12:37 PM - Airplast, does that look a lot like the Top Flight power point tips and the (Jim Gerken) 11. 01:25 PM - Re: Airplast, does that look a lot like the Top Flight power (Terry) 12. 02:55 PM - What's Status on Prop Tip Mod (jerb) 13. 03:09 PM - Re: Airstar (jerb) 14. 03:50 PM - wing mods (Paul Petty) 15. 04:28 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 (CRAIG M NELSON) 16. 06:26 PM - Re: What's Status on Prop Tip Mod (Richard Pike) 17. 08:46 PM - Firestar For Sale (SR3SA2L1@aol.com) 18. 09:49 PM - Whale Watching (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:54 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight Farm 1989 --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 1/26/04 10:14:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: > > I think Bert must have been a real > >heavy in the industry too. But I really don't know any history. > > > >George Randolph > > George/All: > > Do a google search on: "Bert+Howland" > > You will get a lot of info. > > Here's his bio page: http://members.cox.net/classic-aero/bert.htm > > And here's the HO Malone's home page for Classic Aero: > > http://members.cox.net/classic-aero/index.htm > > HO was a US Army historian. It shows in his work putting the web site > together. > > I am grateful I had the opportunity to spend time with Bert and Ellen > Howland in their home and fly with Bert over the beautiful NY countryside. > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > John H and all.....Awesome, truly awesome!!....wadda life Bert had, obviously too short. george randolph the Villages, Fl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:53 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Wellsville PA fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com A group is flight planning our trip to Wellsville and I thought I would mention our stops along the way to see if anyone on the list was familiar with them as far as being a good place to stop. They are all listed as having fuel availiable. Our stops ,heading south from the Albany NY area are,: Wurtsboro (N82) - Stroudsburg (N53)- Slatington (69N)- Smoketown (Q08) and then into Shreveport North (62PA) Thanks Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:22 AM PST US From: "Olenik Aviation" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Airstar --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" Thier was another Airstar that I saw advertising in Ultra Flight and Aero Connections selling aftermarket gasket sets and such. The ad was only in there for about 6 months and now it's gone. Selling inferior products for discount prices probably isn't a very good business model for aviation supply. Tom Olenik Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation. Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell...... (DO NOT USE THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR DIRECT E-MAIL. WE WILL NEVER SEE IT. USE THE ABOVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY) DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airstar --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike There may be more than one "Airstar" company, so I don't want to wrongly slander anybody, but - I and several others locally at one time ordered various items from a company called "Airstar Discount Sales" that always had a big spread right in the middle of "Ultralight Flying" magazine, and they were a source of great trouble, used parts in place of new, and parts that were claimed to be Genuine Rotax Parts that were not. Those people were Bad News. If they are the ones you are looking for, be thankful you are not finding them. You might order parts for a Cuyuna and get parts for a Yugo. Not sure what you are looking for, but Olenik Aviation is a good place to start, & I have had good results from Central Snowmobile Supply, they sell and repair Cuyuna 340 & 440 engines. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:10 PM 2/2/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > >Anybody know anything about a company called Airstar? They used to handle >parts for the Cuyuna engines. >The last address I have for them is www.800-airstar.com but it doesn't >take me there any more. > >Dale Sellers >Georgia >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:07 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: BMW dealers ? From: Jim Gerken 02/03/2004 08:47:58 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken > >Time: 09:06:31 AM PST US >From: "James, Ken" >Subject: RE: Kolb-List: BMW on E-bay >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" >Can you guys recommend conversion sites or where to by a converted engine? >Yes I know I can goggle it but if you are already working with a dealer or a >conversion site your insights about problems you have faced would be better >than cold calling. >Ken Sorry Ken, I can't give you any dealers names. There's one place called Airdale I think : http://www.airdale.com/bmw_engines.htm but the last time I called there (6 months ago), they were moving toward the BMW 1150 engine and moving away from the R100 series. The 1150 is a neat package but I deemed it too heavy. It is injected, uses a computer of sorts, is a bit bigger and weighs around 20-25 MORE pounds than the R100 (1000 CC). The power output is more, I think around 80 HP, on the 1150, but weight is weight, and enough power is enough. Diminishing returns, etc. Airdale was selling gearbox adaptor plates to mate the R100 to the Rotax "C" box for a company from South Africa (always scary to deal with S. Africa), but that company was moving away from this market also and was making adaptors only to-order, unsure of delivery time. The last time I called Airdale, they had one complete engine with gearbox for sale. The price at that time was around 3500. It had come from Europe. I understand that someone in Europe has made a casting mold for the adaptor plate. I saw a photo of one somewhere but cannot find it now. That would be a nice way to go, if you could find it. It looked great, with cast-in ribs and features. A site for photos of installations in England is: http://www.bmw.flyer.co.uk/index.htm To get into the info loop, you need to find a way to converse with the flyers from England. My understanding is that there are hundreds of these R100 conversions flying in England/Europe. The bikes are more available there. Here in the U.S., everything has become collectable if it is a bit dusty, so nothing depreciates. We depend on wrecks instead. Maybe our very own Hans VanAlphen will post a link to his site showing his conversion, which I am following with close attention to do my own. Hans had some parts made, and has tried a number of combinations, as you probably remember reading on this List. Jason has discovered his local VoTech as a valuable machining resource for some of these parts. And I have scratched them out myself so far, learning from Hans and Jason, and a bit of trial and error (and some luck). I have done some experimentation with exhausts and timing, and carb jetting, updated to Bings latest float design for these CV carbs (see http://www.bingcarburetor.com/bmw/cvaccessories.html ). Eventually I will get some stuff written up summarizing my setup. I have kept good notes. Good luck, Jim Gerken 1991 R100 almost ready to fly on 1997 MKiii, formerly powered by 582 Rotax ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:45 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wellsville PA fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Airgriff2@aol.com wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com > > A group is flight planning our trip to Wellsville and I thought I would > mention our stops along the way to see if anyone on the list was familiar with them > as far as being a good place to stop. They are all listed as having fuel > availiable. Our stops ,heading south from the Albany NY area are,: > Wurtsboro (N82) - Stroudsburg (N53)- Slatington (69N)- Smoketown (Q08) > and then into Shreveport North (62PA) > Thanks > Fly Safe > Bob Griffin > Bob, Can attest to the fact that Smoketown (Q08) is a good stop. Very friendly people there and with several UL's based there. Fuel, food and lodging available! Would be a couple of us willing to meet up with you there for the leg to Wellsville. Terry - FireFly #95 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:25 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airstar --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Dale Sellers wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > > Anybody know anything about a company called Airstar? They used to handle parts for the Cuyuna engines. > The last address I have for them is www.800-airstar.com but it doesn't take me there any more. > > Dale Sellers > Georgia > do not archive > Dale, Check the archives about AirStar! Bad news!!!! Saw at Oshkosh this year they had a tent with a sign saying new management. Wouldn't go there if I were you. I had a real bad experience with them! Terry - FireFly - #95 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:59 AM PST US From: "Judy or Larry Gitt" Subject: Kolb-List: GPS in largement of screen --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" How about a Magnifying glass out in front of GPS that folds out of the way to inlarge the screen. To help us old time out to see . Give you guys somthang to think about LarryG ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:27 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BMW dealers ? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" I found this site a few years ago when I was considering ALL engine options. http://www.microlightsport.co.uk/Catalogue/New/bmwengine.htm They offer this engine in 80, 90 , and 100HP versions and has a reduction drive designed for these BMW engines. The prices were reasonable at the time. The only concern and deciding factor for me was the 6200 to 7500 RPMs necessary to produce the rated power. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gerken" Subject: Kolb-List: BMW dealers ? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:16 AM PST US From: "Judy or Larry Gitt" Subject: Kolb-List: Engine of with two differnt HP --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" Hirth has Engine 3701 Witch i seen at Oshkosh, the last two year But there was only two in the USA . for 140 LB wet with all the equipment looks good to me .May some of you guys seen it http://www.recpower.com/3701.htm It might be worth a try larry G ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:08 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Airplast, does that look a lot like the Top Flight power point tips and the mods you guys tried? From: Jim Gerken 02/03/2004 02:36:25 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken http://www.cavediver.com/texas-flyer/Rossi/default.htm I followed the above link to Robert Laird's page, describing his Trike experience, and followed the "prop" link to view that beautiful red Airplast prop. Does it look like the Airplast design is what the Top Flight Power point tips look like? And the same mods that a couple of you guys made recently? I know the Airplast props are supposed to be very smooth and quiet. Jim Gerken ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:06 PM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airplast, does that look a lot like the Top Flight power point tips and themods you guys tried? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Jim Gerken wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken > > http://www.cavediver.com/texas-flyer/Rossi/default.htm > > I followed the above link to Robert Laird's page, describing his Trike > experience, and followed the "prop" link to view that beautiful red > Airplast prop. Does it look like the Airplast design is what the Top > Flight Power point tips look like? And the same mods that a couple of you > guys made recently? I know the Airplast props are supposed to be very > smooth and quiet. > > Jim Gerken > Jim, No, the Top Flight prop tips are different. Check them out at a model store. Terry - FireFly #95 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:30 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Kolb-List: What's Status on Prop Tip Mod --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Any one else modify their prop tips to resemble those on a Top Flite RC model prop? Interested to hear what the results were. jerb http://www.top-flite.com/accys/topq5000.html ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:31 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airstar --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb I agree with Richard, these people developed a bad reputation. If you have had any problems with them, your one of few. Lots of bad customer service, relations, and questionable parts. The word got around on the list and wasn't long their ad in UL Flying Magazine disappeared. jerb At 11:04 PM 2/2/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > >There may be more than one "Airstar" company, so I don't want to wrongly >slander anybody, but - I and several others locally at one time ordered >various items from a company called "Airstar Discount Sales" that always >had a big spread right in the middle of "Ultralight Flying" magazine, and >they were a source of great trouble, used parts in place of new, and parts >that were claimed to be Genuine Rotax Parts that were not. Those people >were Bad News. >If they are the ones you are looking for, be thankful you are not finding >them. You might order parts for a Cuyuna and get parts for a Yugo. > >Not sure what you are looking for, but Olenik Aviation is a good place to >start, & I have had good results from Central Snowmobile Supply, they sell >and repair Cuyuna 340 & 440 engines. > >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > >At 09:10 PM 2/2/04 -0500, you wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > > > >Anybody know anything about a company called Airstar? They used to handle > >parts for the Cuyuna engines. > >The last address I have for them is www.800-airstar.com but it doesn't > >take me there any more. > > > >Dale Sellers > >Georgia > >do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:09 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: wing mods --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Mike,Clay,all, Sorry for the delay but I have been at Ronnie Smith's for the past 4 days attending a Rotax engine school.The wing mods were a suggestion from John Hauck. His brother, Jim, I believe, designed the mod as well as a lot of the design changes on Kolb aircraft over the past 15 years or so. The angle mod made the wing incredibly strong and is a worthwhile investment compared to the weight gain, which is not very much. I have some digital scales and will weigh the total number of pieces for one wing and post this evening. If this mod had not been designed by someone way smarter than myself, and proven for some 15 years now, I would have not even considered it. But with some 1500+ hours and through some really ruff conditions, I chose to go the extra mile. The angle is .063" thick and is 6063 T-52 sharp corner and available @ http://www.nolansupply.com/bysubcategory.asp?categoryMetals&supercategoryAluminum&subcategoryAluminum+Angle+%2D+6063%2DT52+%2D+Sharp+Corner&typeFalse&specsTrue The rivet pattern gets a little tricky and I had to pick Haucks brain a bit to get it right. Perhaps John or Jim can explain what this mod will do. I sure cant, just trusted them on this.Please correct me John if any of the above statements are incorrect. I'm calling all of this from memory which is about wiped out at this time from the 3 days of intense schooling. The school... WOW I must say that anyone that plans to turn a wrench or do any maintenance on their Rotax engine, be it 2 or 4 cycle, go and take this training. I had forgot about the class and let it slip up on me after the 2 cycle was almost over. So the 4 cycle was all I was able to get in and the next 2 cycle class will be a year, maybe sooner I hope. Eric Tucker is a great instructor and the classes is very small and personal.Right off the bat I knew the class was going to be interesting because when asked "How long do you think Rotax has been around?" and many saying 20/30 years? Turns out Rotax has been around since the 1920's!!! They started out inventing the coast-a-brake for bicycles. The Rotax name comes from "Rotating Axle" aint that neat? The 912 series engines are a pure work of art. Things like 1 thousands clearance piston to cylinder wall. Zero wear in cylinders @ TBO! One of the biggest discoveries was how fast the tiny power plant can recirculate it's 3 liters of engine oil. Cant remember the exact flow rate but a 912 will puke all 3 liters in like 10 seconds if an oil line blows off!!! Another was how the connecting rods do not have rod caps. Nope! The crank is a pressed together assembly from the factory just like a Harley Davidson engine. I have plans of becoming a Rotax repair station and are just breaking the surface. However there were several folks there just learning proper maintenance. And believe me there is plenty of that to be done. Well worth the cost and time. We had a gent from as far away as Alaska! It is easy to see why these engines are as expensive as they are. I am surprised that they are not more expensive than they are.The 912UL series engines are the same engines as the FAA 912 certified engines with component replacement parts and time required replacement being the only difference.There are 912UL engines out there running with over 3000 hours on them. With constant R&D and good service bulletins to keep them all up to date with the latest data I cant think of a better engine for my airplane. Speaking of which, If any of you are planning on buying a Rotax engine soon, do it real soon! They expect a 18% price increase in the near future. Parts prices.... Anyone ever had to purchase any major components or parts? Cylinder head for a 912 $1000.00 dollars debit card Rocker arms $200.00 EACH debit card Crank assembly $3000.00 debit card Frequent oil changes.....priceless........ Not to knock anyone wanting to power a Kolb aircraft with any other power plant. I say GO FOR IT !! Heck I still want to fly the Harley Davidson engine. However, after the school and learning how well built these tiny short stroke 4 cycle engines are,and how well these engines are produced and constantly evaluated and updated, I have no doubt I have purchased the best (proven) aircraft engine on the market. Now I'm going to head to the hanger and give my engine a good looking over. I will weigh the mod parts and post later. For what it's worth it took me an hour to type this friggen post !!!!! Sorry to be so long winded folks but hey it's been four days!!!!!! Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:28:02 PM PST US From: "CRAIG M NELSON" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2004 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" DO NOTARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE Rick Scott Johns any one I'm in any where!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as long as the bird is done uncle craig MKIIIex 912uls warp Arizona DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard & Martha Neilsen Subject: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2004 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Scott I keep forgetting to answer you kind offer. I had a super time last year in god's country and flying with you to Oshkosh. I'm honored to have you offer a stop over at your place again. It was super flying in a flight of five into Oshkosh and it would be nice to have at least that many this year. It appears the Johns will be in Alaska instead of Oshkosh. How about Bill Vincent and the rest of Iron Mountain group, are you guys interested in flying along??? Maybe we can talk Uncle Craig and some others in meeting at Iron Mountain or some other place for a mass Kolb flight into Oshkosh. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Trask" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NE Kolb Homecoming > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask > > on 1/26/04 3:34 PM, Richard & Martha Neilsen at NeilsenRM@comcast.net wrote: > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > > > > > > This sounds interesting but around July 4th isn't good for me and near the > > end of July I will be heading for Oshkosh. Which brings to mind an earlier > > post of mine about getting a group to fly into Oshkosh this year. Anyone > > interested??? > > > > Rick Neilsen > > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Rowe" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NE Kolb Homecoming > > > Hi Rick and list > I'll be planning on flying in again into OSH this year. It will be my 12th > year on flying in. You're more than welcome to stop here again and fly in > with me. Rick, I'll even cut a few more tree limbs off for you. John W. I'll > cut some more ferns at the end of the runway for you. Those Alaskan > travelers could swing in on their way back from Alaska (with whale blubber > on their breaths). There's always fresh venison here in the U.P. ( NOT > freezer burned, John H.). I do realize that it would be a little far north > for you guys coming from Alaska, but know that you are welcome. > The Homecoming gathering would be nice. As long as the group doesn't stay > too long. I would think everyone could meet someplace else and everybody > could fly in together, if this wasn't already thought of. > You guys in the N.E. should gather at the week-long Yankee fly-in in July. > I haven't gone in 3 years. We were attending every year prior to that. It's > a great time! > > Scott Trask IMT > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:57 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What's Status on Prop Tip Mod --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Friend of mine gave me a busted Ivo to practice grinding on, but am still bogged down working on getting the intake silencer box to work right. Better stick to one crisis at a time... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 05:03 PM 2/3/04 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb > >Any one else modify their prop tips to resemble those on a Top Flite RC >model prop? >Interested to hear what the results were. >jerb >http://www.top-flite.com/accys/topq5000.html > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:22 PM PST US From: SR3SA2L1@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar For Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: SR3SA2L1@aol.com FIRESTAR FOR SALE: I'm moving out of country and can't take it with me. Includes original builders plans and builders manual. AIRFRAME/WINGS: Always hangered since new Never in bad or wet weather 60 HR Total Time on airframe New yellow, red and white paint New ceconite fabric with silver base and Randolph aviation dope paint (0 time in air) Framed and removable rear doors/enclosure Tilting nose for easy entrance Original and custom adj. hard seat 8 adj. inflatable lumbar/seat support bladders All new cables and hardware In cockpit metal covers for cables Metal floors Multiple windshields with quick change Multiple wing gap/leading edges Extra frame bracing for heavier engine Extra wing/frame bracing Wing tip brace kit from Kolb installed Removable rear firewall 5 point seat belts Second Chance softpack rocket deployed parachute LANDING GEAR: Original gear legs, wheels and tires Firestar 2 legs, larger wheels and tires Brake system has dual, right and left control handles New cables (no brakes inside wheels yet) ENGINE: New 503 DCDI with 1 hour (break-in time only, not flown) New "B" drive Air Drive Service electric starter New In-flight adjustable carbs Cermachromed exhaust Shaft balancer Choke Primer New Duel mag key start PROP: New 3 blade Ivo prop (1 hour only during engine break-in) In-flight adjustable Yellow blades match paint scheme Metal leading edge tape Metal spinner Prop balancer FUEL SYSTEM: Custom 11+ gal alum. fuel tank Easy fill system Flow stop to prevent fuel loss if fuel cap came off in flight Multi fuel outlets Dual vents Large access door Sight gauge Original tank (in case you want to put it back in) Pulse pump 3 Electric back-up pumps (1 set up for emergency reserve fuel tank) Separate fuel line for each pump Multi fuel filter system for each pump and fuel line Pressure regulator Multi fuel line system for automatic fuel back-up delivery INSTRUMENTS: Hobbs Quad - (duel EGTs, CHTs) Tach Duel - (volt/amp) Air speed Sensitive altimeter "G" meter Ball variometer Wiskey barrel compose Slip ind. Scanner (200 channel programmable) Loran KX99 (VHF, CDI, VOR, etc) PTT Air Repeater AM/FM/CASS with ext speakers, headset jack CB with ext speakers, headset jack PA Multi timer/clock FM transceivers (2) Fire ext. Solar batt charger Multi 12V access/cig outlets Cockpit lighting Military helmets/headsets (2) with drop down faceshields Helmet with AVCom headset Access switch boxes (2) HISTORY: I purchased this already built in 1991 from a local pilot who had purchased it new and built it. He was selling because he bought a GA airplane (he liked to do aerobatics). He put 10 hours on it before he sold it to me. It had the wood prop and a 377 on it at the time. I flew it for 50 hours over the next few years before I bought a PA-28-180 to use for a long commute I was making at the time. I really like the Kolb and decided in 1995 that I would do a complete teardown, repaint it and equip it better and make it more adequate for the type of flying I was doing (I figured since I had another plane to fly while I was doing this and plenty of space in the hanger, I could take all the time I wanted, make all the upgrades I wanted and still fly all I wanted in the other plane). A bunch of other projects got in the way and the Firestar took a back seat to higher priorities. Mission creep happened - a lot. New 503, prop, fabric and paint scheme etc., etc., etc. Now the only original instrument left is the airspeed indicator and just about everything else is new. There are still a few things left to be done before it is ready to go back in the air (put the wing gap on, finish the wiring for strobes and radios (instruments are done) and about a week worth of misc. work (depending on which options you want in it when you fly). It's never been crashed or abused. It has never been left outside or been flown in inclement weather. It has been in our desert weather since new. I am now planning a move out of country and it can't go with me or I would never sell it. I will send pictures upon request (as soon as it stops raining here I will take some and send them via email - I don't want to take it out of the garage and get it wet. It is supposed to clear up here in the next few days). It is in central Calif. I also have a duel axle boat trailer I was converting to a flat bed to haul it that I can sell with it (if I get time to finish it, you can use it to haul it home or you can use your own trailer) and a SkyOx 4 place auto alt comp O2 system if you like to fly high. I have over $17K in it and have less than a year to sell it - make offer. I can be reached at: Steve (209) - 669 - 9448 SR3SA2L1@aol.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:27 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Whale Watching --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Do not Archive. Since it's time for the next whale watching trip - I'll be leaving next Monday morning - I thought it might be about time to update the whale watching pages, so I've put a lot of new material on there. I think it looks pretty good, myself, tho' my opinion might be prejudiced. :-) Take a look at: http://www.webpictures.homestead.com/travelling.html and click on Whale Watching in Baja. I've done a fair amount of thinking about flying Vamoose down there next year, and just can't help feeling a little un-easy. That's a long way, and no support. Then, tonight, it dawned on me..............tow the fool thing down there in the trailer, and make short flights from local airports. Hmmmmm........................?? This is gonna bear some research on towing a plane in Mexico. Trust me, guys - there's some beautiful scenery down there, and the whale watching boat rides are neat. Big Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com