Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:07 AM - crash fires (Ted Cowan)
2. 05:29 AM - MicroAir 760 (Doug Lawton)
3. 05:46 AM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (ronnie wehba)
4. 05:47 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (garvelink)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: Outboard Rib Reinforcement (bryan green)
6. 06:27 AM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (John Hauck)
7. 06:30 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Kelvin Kurkowski)
8. 06:30 AM - Re: Loose Rivets (Denny Rowe)
9. 06:30 AM - Re: crash fires (Denny Rowe)
10. 06:34 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (John Hauck)
11. 06:37 AM - Re: Loose Rivets (dama)
12. 06:39 AM - Hauck (Paul Petty)
13. 06:41 AM - fire in da hole (Paul Petty)
14. 06:56 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Larry Bourne)
15. 06:59 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (John Hauck)
16. 07:07 AM - Re: Loose Rivets (John Hauck)
17. 07:09 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (John Hauck)
18. 07:18 AM - Re: crash fires (snuffy@usol.com)
19. 07:36 AM - Re: crash fires (John Hauck)
20. 07:42 AM - Re: Prop Pitch (Don Gherardini)
21. 07:51 AM - John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
22. 08:22 AM - Re: crash fires (HShack@aol.com)
23. 08:35 AM - Re: crash fires (Don Gherardini)
24. 08:42 AM - inertia switch (boyd young)
25. 08:52 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (ul15rhb@juno.com)
26. 09:03 AM - MicroAir 760 (William George)
27. 09:14 AM - Re: crash fires (snuffy@usol.com)
28. 09:14 AM - Re: Bing 64 - Auto leaning like HAC? (Duncan McBride)
29. 09:33 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Duncan McBride)
30. 10:04 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (Bob Bean)
31. 10:54 AM - Re: fire in da hole (Denny Rowe)
32. 11:04 AM - q (Russ Kinne)
33. 11:04 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (Richard Pike)
34. 11:10 AM - Re: crash fires (jerb)
35. 11:20 AM - Re: fire in da hole (John Hauck)
36. 11:22 AM - Re: q (John Hauck)
37. 11:25 AM - Re: crash fires (John Hauck)
38. 11:27 AM - Re: inertia switch (Bob N.)
39. 11:28 AM - Fw: Fabric Piper Restoration Seminar (Larry Bourne)
40. 11:31 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (John Hauck)
41. 11:33 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (ul15rhb@juno.com)
42. 11:36 AM - Re: inertia switch (Bob N.)
43. 11:39 AM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (ul15rhb@juno.com)
44. 11:43 AM - Re: q (Larry Bourne)
45. 12:28 PM - Re: crash fires (Duncan McBride)
46. 12:33 PM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Jim Ballenger)
47. 01:01 PM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Duncan McBride)
48. 01:06 PM - Radio Interference Fixes? (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
49. 02:35 PM - q (Russ Kinne)
50. 02:39 PM - Microair 760 (c.f.white@att.net)
51. 02:48 PM - Re: crash fires also contactor diode (Bob N.)
52. 04:36 PM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Bill Elder)
53. 04:37 PM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (John Hauck)
54. 04:45 PM - Re: Microair 760 (John Hauck)
55. 05:03 PM - Re: MicroAir 760 (John Hauck)
56. 05:38 PM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Duncan McBride)
57. 06:00 PM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (ronnie wehba)
58. 06:11 PM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (Don Gherardini)
59. 06:14 PM - MKIII motor rail/spacer drawings (GDay@mycingular.com)
60. 06:23 PM - Checking In (Beauford)
61. 06:43 PM - Re: Radio Interference Fixes? (Richard Pike)
62. 06:47 PM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (John Hauck)
63. 06:50 PM - Re: Checking In (John Cooley)
64. 06:55 PM - Re: MicroAir 760 (garvelink)
65. 07:12 PM - Re: Checking In (John Hauck)
66. 07:34 PM - Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom (Richard Pike)
67. 09:02 PM - Re: Prop Pitch (DAquaNut@aol.com)
68. 09:41 PM - Re: Prop Pitch (Don Gherardini)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
Was just wondering, how many fires after hard landings or crashes as it
were, have been reported or are known to the members. I cannot remember one
fire. I have seen some pretty nasty crashes and I guess if you gotta crash
that bad, everyone is going to be dead anyway. ted cowan, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
John,
Several of the sailplanes at our field use the 760 with satisfactory
results. I believe one fellow last year mentioned that he was having
intermittent cutout with it but he finally traced it down to a wiring short
outside of the radio.
I plan to put one in the Europa motorglider that I'm building right now. I
like the fact that it's small and has the builtin intercom. Perfect for a
two-seater.
Fly Safely,
Doug Lawton
NE Georgia & Whitwell TN
PS Anyone heard anything from Beauford lately?
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
anybody have any pics of aileron counterbalaces on a ultrastar?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flap and Aileron hinge devations
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
> Somewhere, maybe on Kolblist archives, are a whole bunch of msgs abt
> aileron hinges. Some on X-type hinges. Dig into that. Couple of years
ago...
>
> Bob N.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
any of you guys ham operators?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi All:
>
> Anyone have or had experience with the Micro Air 760 VHF transceiver?
>
> I am interested.
>
> The radio of small, about 2.5" square and 5.5" deep. Can mount in
> 2.25" instrument hole or come up with your own.
>
> Has intercom built in for two with side tone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Rib Reinforcement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
I went to it just fine try copying the link then paste it in your browser.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Outboard Rib Reinforcement
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the info either the link is down or incorrect because I can
not
> get it to come up. I will try again in the morn.
>
> Srglink
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Outboard Rib Reinforcement
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> > Good Morning Kolbers:
> >
> > Was trying to find some other info for Paul Petty, rivet sequence for
> > attaching ribs to spar. While looking through my old MKIII
> > supplemental drawings, came across this page:
> >
> >
>
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/MK%20III%20Construction/Rib%20Reinforcement
> .jpg
> >
> > If it is not large enough, I will rescan and upload another to my
> > index page.
> >
> > Please note the date Dennis Souder drew the plans and the wrote the
> > instructions, 1990. I built my first MKIII wings in 1991 and the
> > second set in 1992. I noticed one thing I did not do on my rib
> > reinforments, the two extra rivets in the front and rear gussets. So
> > far, this has not presented any problem. When I rebuilt the left wing
> > in 2001, the front and rear gussets were just fine.
> >
> > Also note that: "These are not necessary for NORMAL flight loads with
> > a properly handled and maintained wing." I emphsize "normal flight
> > loads." My wings have experienced much more than normal flight loads
> > during their travels. Especially the one in the back of the trailer
> > from Muncho Lake, BC, to OSH, and finally hauck's holler, Alabama.
> >
> > Also note, where the holes are drilled and riveted. Maybe List Member
> > Jim Gerken will rethink what he wrote about "my" useless modifications
> > "filling the ribs with unnecessary holes, weakening them, adding
> > weight for nothing."
> >
> > Please take into consideration, my airplane has not led a NORMAL life,
> > and will not lead a normal life in the future. In these conditions, I
> > want Miss P'fer to keep on doing the excellent job she has been doing
> > all these years. She has proven to me, whether any one else agrees or
> > not, that the rib mods are, indeed, doing what I wanted them to do.
> >
> > If you all need a larger picture to see the plan sheet more clearly,
> > let me know.
> >
> > I also added another 10 mb to the 5 free ones Road Runner gave me for
> > my personal web site. $10.00 a month is a small fee to try and help
> > folks with their Kolbs.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > john h
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| anybody have any pics of aileron counterbalaces on a ultrastar?
Ronnie W/All:
I'll have to see what I can come up with.
Wait a minute! I now have digital capability, thanks to the generous
offer of Clay Stuart to send me his old Kodak Digital Camera. It
works great for what its intended purpose is, take pictures of parts
and stuff to share with the Kolb List. I will try to get some pics of
the aileron counterbalance weights today.
Took me a while to get all the drivers and programs downloaded and up
to date, then learn how to get the pics from the camera to the
computer, but I did it. hehehe
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kelvin Kurkowski" <kkurkow@chase3000.com>
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
>
> any of you guys ham operators?
I have been a ham for nearly 30 years but probably the most inactive one in
history. I always liked DX (long distance communication) and never got in
to the 2meter thing. About the time I got to a place in my life that I
could get going on it again, a thing called email came along, and the Dx got
real simple and much less expensive(had to have the internet for family and
business anyway). Maybe when I'm cured of these other "deseases" like
aviation, or become homebound or bedfast, I will continue.
Tnx KB0BSL
Kelvin Kurkowski
Grant NE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi All:
>
> I have some tail boom H brace rivets loosening up. Not many, but
> enough to feel it is time to correct. My H brace is alumnum. Nope, I
> did not design and fabricate it. I was stock on the first run of MK
> III's. Same for the wing H braces.
>
> Anyone have this problem and if so, how did you correct.
>
> Thanks,
>
> john h
>
>
John,
I would move my landing gear back to the stock position as to releive some
of the stress on the tailboom. :-)
Just kidding. I wonder how far into Mk-3 production the aluminum H braces
went? My Mk-3 was #90 and as all the H braces were installed by the
original owner before I bought the project, I do not know what mine are. I
kind of hope they are aluminum after seeing how well Miss Pfer has held up,
and it also lowers any rust conserns.
Take Care,
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
AM
Subject: Kolb-List: crash fires
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
>
> Was just wondering, how many fires after hard landings or crashes as it
> were, have been reported or are known to the members. I cannot remember
one
> fire. I have seen some pretty nasty crashes and I guess if you gotta
crash
> that bad, everyone is going to be dead anyway. ted cowan, alabama
>
> Ted,
> I recall Randy Schliter, the owner of Rans, was hurt in a post crash fire
in his "lifting body" prototype a while back.
Also Ernie Carlson "Carlson Aircraft Company" was taken from us in a fire
following a test flight accident.
It's a terrible thing, and somthing to be taken seriously. Has been a
subject of nightmares for me on occasion.
Sorry for peeing in everyones cereal this morning. :-(
Be careful out there.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I like the fact that it's small and has the builtin intercom.
Perfect for a
| two-seater.
Doug/All:
Mine too, Doug. How well does the intercom work? Was not clear
whether it had a PTT capability for intercom or "turn on, leave on" as
I understood from all the searches I did for info last night.
Sky Sports sells a wiring harness for $190.00, which is way too much
for that. Are you familiar with the requirements for wiring the
radio? I wonder if the plug on the wiring harness comes with the
radio? If so, it probably will not be that difficult to do my own
wiring.
Most of my intercom/VHF comm problems have been traced to wiring
damage caused by the infamous rats a couple years ago. Every once in
a while more damage in the form of chewed wires and cut wire
insulation appears. They can do a lot of damage and in places one can
not see.
Thanks for the info,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
I have some tail boom H brace rivets loosening up. Not many, but
> > enough to feel it is time to correct. My H brace is alumnum. Nope, I
> > did not design and fabricate it. I was stock on the first run of MK
> > III's. Same for the wing H braces.
> >
Any idea how many landings are on the boom, John? Well, some people keep
track, like me...(518 to date).
Kip
Atlanta FS II
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
WHAT!!! Hauck is now digital? This is a revolution!!!!
pp
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
What about an onboard fire extinguishing system that one could deploy by hand?
pp
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I've asked repeatedly about Beauford, and nobody says a word. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
>
> PS Anyone heard anything from Beauford lately?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
people keep
| track, like me...(518 to date).
| Kip
Morning Kip/Gang:
There's 5,372 landings in my log book since I got my PVT ticket. That
figure includes about 30 hours 152, factory MKIII and Sling Shot time.
I would guess, without going through the log books, near 5,000 on Miss
P'fer.
That averages out to about 2.5 per hour.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning Denny/Gang:
| I would move my landing gear back to the stock position as to
releive some
| of the stress on the tailboom. :-)
Yea! And put one of those funky looking training hoops or training
wheels under the nose? No thanks.
| Just kidding. I wonder how far into Mk-3 production the aluminum H
braces
| went?
I don't know. Mine is SN: M3-011, Feb 1991. I am sure Dennis Souder
has a good idea when.
You can look in the tail boom and see. The aluminum H brace uses very
heavy wall tubing and is easy to identify with flash light and
eyeball.
Primary rivet loosening is near the center of the H brace. Nothing
bad, at this time, but definitely getting loser.
I was thinking about blocking the fuselage to neutralize the weight on
the tail boom, drill the old rivets out and replace.
First tell/tale sign of rivet working was the aerothane paint popped
off the rivet heads.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I've asked repeatedly about Beauford, and nobody says a word.
Lar.
Larry/All:
That's because we do not know.
Maybe we need to contact Beauford. :-)
I bet he is involved with his job again, or he got tired of the BS
that seems to get slung around here about every two months now.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
Was just wondering, how many fires after hard landings or crashes as it
> were, have been reported or are known to the members. I cannot
remember
Ted,
I think we are all concerned about the potential for fires with our
planes whether we're aware of it or not. From simple refueling safety to
minor leaks or major ruptures such as in a crash. Dallas Shephard
recently crashed his Mark 3 and there were no real bad injuries but fuel
was running on him and his grandson. He couldn't reach the master switch
as I recall. Probably a good thing too as an arc created by opening the
circuit under load could have ignited the fumes.
Kirk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|He couldn't reach the master switch
| as I recall. Probably a good thing too as an arc created by opening
the
| circuit under load could have ignited the fumes.
| Kirk
Snuffy/All:
Not trying to create an argument, but aren't most continuous duty
solenoids used as master switches sealed?
I agree that switches that are not easy to reach are pretty much
useless in emergency situation.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
ED...made a mistake in that post...I have a 2.65 :1 Gearbox...(2SI)
Also.of note....at 5300 cruise...The FireFly is at 60mph...(2000 rpms prop)
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I was surfing this morning and noticed on John Williamson's web site that he
has his newly rebuilt Kolbra for sale. John please say it ain't so! Are you
just switching to a differen't model Kolb?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIc
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 2/22/2004 10:19:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
snuffy@usol.com writes:
Was just wondering, how many fires after hard landings or crashes as it
> were, have been reported or are known to the members. I cannot
remember
Recently, at a local airstrip, a wooden experimental [not an ultralight]
apparently stalled & pancaked in. Pilot may have survived the impact, but the
landing gear sheared the fuel lines & the pilot was engulfed in flames within
seconds. The sliding canopy was jammed & he could not open it. The flames were
so intense that rescuers could not get to him. The pilot, while screaming in
pain, was able to climb over the back of his seat & kick out the side of his
burning fuselage & crawl out far enough for rescuers to drag his burning body
away from the inferno. Except for metal parts, the plane was consumed in
under 2 minutes.
Mostly third degree burns over 92% of his body.
The pilot lived for a week until they removed life support.
We are now planning on maintaining a"'crash-cart" at our field with several
fire extinguishers, lots of sterile water, crowbar, axe, firemans coat &
helmet,& what-ever else we can think of , all on a fast golf cart.
Probably wouldn't have saved this pilot's life, but we feel the need to do
something............
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Morning Men..
I really never thought much about fires in a crash...till....at our
airpark..about a year an a half ago...a fella in a CGS Hawk took off and for
some unknown reason To any of us....got up about 2 or 300 feet...and maybe a
half mile...and his bird did a slow wing over and went down..(I didnt see
it..I was inside a hangar)..but thats what the boys all
said...anyway....when a crowd went running by the doors I went out to see
what the commotion was...and looked downfeild..all I could see was the
fire... BY the time we got there..(Old men running thru waist high soybeans
dont make real good time)...Well..we dont know if it was the crash or the
fire that killed him...but is wasnt pretty..and..it was the first time I
walked up on a airplane fatality..
It took me awhile to be able to sleep after that of course.
What was just about as bad was when a month later...his wife/widow showed
up at a fly-in we were having..with his pick-up and all his extra airplane
stuff in the back..wanting to sell it all...Of course..his Life-Insurance
would not pay off and she was in financial straights...
One of the Fellas who was in our crowd when the Hawk went down..and
actually..being the Youngest..was the first to make it thru the beans..Had a
Z-max...and he is a real smooth pilot...Younger family man(mid-30s)..About 6
months after that crash..he was down low Buzzing a buddies house when he had
an engine out....He set it down easy in an adjacent feild...but he got in
some mud and it did a nose -over ..didnt look all that bad but when the top
of the rudder hit...the fuse busted in half behind the seat...and left the
top of his nice eros style full enclosed canopy sitting on the ground. HE
could not get out...and...gasoline was running all over the place. NO
fire....Now...his buddy didnt see this happen right away and it was they
think 15 or 20 minutes before he got over there and lifted up the tail so he
could get out. According to his bud..he was almost catatonic....no
injuries...but on the verge of insanity. ( or maybe past it)...He will never
fly again he swears...and has been in psyco therapy for a year now, and
hasnt worked since..
about a month after his crash I might add...his wife called during a club
meeting about half hysterical...said he was going to burn down the
house..She asked if we would come over and get that wrecked Z-max..because
he was going to burn it and it was in the garage...which of course we all
loaded up and went..This actually was the first time I personally had seen
him since before his crash...And Ill tell ya...I didnt know him
anymore..Even his face had changed...I left there more shook up than after
the fatal crash.
So...as of this last year..It has got me thinking about fires..and making
sure I have a good vent design...Fuel pump switch where I can get at
it...and what ever else gives me piece of mind..
AS Green said...."Because I want it"...well..thats good enuff for me..and IF
I had any good knowledge about how to go about that switch to share..I would
attempt to help figger out a good way to do it..
PARTICULARLY if it would keep me from running into anymore wives in the
situations like I have seen recently...
The combined abilities and knowledge and expierience that is present in this
forum would make me believe that if I wanted to make my Kolb fly to the
moon....well...this is where I would start asking questions....and hope that
just cause all of the talent that is present here didnt think I was gonna
get my Kolb to the Moon...I would hope that they all would contribute what
they could anyway...
Cause...."You dont know what I dont know"
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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<lynnp@c-gate.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
This was my worry. So if I were to make a hard, bouncy landing and the
engine were suddenly "off" because of this switch, I wouldn't have the
option to use power to get things under control or to go around. I could
even lose power by hitting a bad bump on summer day?
------------------------------
No
it would kill the radio, fuel pump, gps, intercom, lights, etc. the engine does
not require outside power to run... cdi will work without 12v input.
boyd
----------------------
All ELTs have inertial switches, that can be "unarmed' or switched off.
I've never seen /heard of an ELT sw arming without plane hitting
hard--turbs don't seem to do it.
Maybe I should have said "most," as I've never seen all ELTs.
Bob N.
----------------------
Elt inertia switches require aprox 1 g of forward deacceleration...
a hard landing would not set it off only a sudden stop.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:59:31 -0600 "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | Any idea how many landings are on the boom, John? Well, some
> people keep
>
> Morning Kip/Gang:
>
> There's 5,372 landings in my log book since I got my PVT ticket.
> That
> figure includes about 30 hours 152, factory MKIII and Sling Shot
> time.
>
> I would guess, without going through the log books, near 5,000 on
> Miss
> P'fer.
>
> That averages out to about 2.5 per hour.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
John,
I was surprised to hear the H-section is made of aluminum on your Mark
III. Intuition tells me that thin aluminum legs on the H-section would
add little strength to the inside of the fuse tube. The Original Firestar
has chromoly steel in both the wings and fuse tube. Old Kolb did it right
the first time. I wonder if the new Kolbs are aluminum too. Somehow, I
missed this bit of information over the years or the senior moments are
becoming more frequent. I have 2500+ landings on mine and don't see any
signs of loose rivets on the fuse tube, but then my Kolb is 540lbs gross.
I've noticed, John, that you stand on your fuse tube to look at the top
of the engine. I have never stood on mine. Even with the chomoly
H-section, I would think my weight would stress it quite a bit. I have
noticed the main 3/8" bolt has loosened up a turn or two after 15 years.
Those bolts in the wings have locktite on them and this one didn't.
I made my last winter flight of the season up here in the great
northland. I landed on skis out on the lake about 12 times. It's getting
too warm, too fast. Yesterday was blue skies and light winds with a high
of 34F. The lakes are melting and there goes my winter flying activities.
Ralph
Original Firestar
17 years flying it
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
John and troopers,
I have been using one for a couple of years. It is a great little
radio. You can preset a bunch of freqs in the order you will use them
and just toggle through as necessary. It even has a built in option to
control the toggling through a stick mounted switch. The only downside
is that the volume/squelch/freq knobs are really tiny and have very
little in the way of a friction detent.
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
do not archive
On Feb 21, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
> Subject: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi All:
>
> Anyone have or had experience with the Micro Air 760 VHF transceiver?
>
> I am interested.
>
> The radio of small, about 2.5" square and 5.5" deep. Can mount in
> 2.25" instrument hole or come up with your own.
>
> Has intercom built in for two with side tone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
>aren't most continuous duty
> solenoids used as master switches sealed?
Probably are in most certificated aircraft. The toggle that is mounted
on the panel probably isn't.
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| Subject: | Re: Bing 64 - Auto leaning like HAC? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
What I'm reading from these posts is that while it may be a modest amount of
altitude compensation, it is more than sufficient for the altitudes we fly.
Sometimes discussions get into finer points of engineering and physics and
stuff, which is always interesting, but sometimes the practical matter is
that some of the distinctions aren't terribly significant when it comes to
actual performance. For someone considering the purchase of a 912 or 912S,
I can offer a similar experience to John's. At a flying weight of around
920 lbs, my 912 powered Mark III was still climbing around 450fpm at 10,500
ft, the outside air temperature was around 36F. Maybe with computer
controlled fuel injection it would be doing better, but I was cold and ready
to stop climbing and come down. Actually, I like to fly along at about
10-15 feet, it makes it seem like you're going faster.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bing 64 - Auto leaning like HAC?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | The Bing 64 sort of compensate for pressure changes by default
> because it is
> them. So
>
> Tom/All:
>
> Your post makes the 912 carb sound like it doesn't work well, "they do
> have a modest amount of compensation by default."
>
> I realize your Pappy has been talking about "his" HAC system for two
> stroke carbs, but.................
>
> I just hit the send button on a post based on "actual" flight
> experience with the Bing CD carb to 14,500 feet. Many other flights
> above 10,000. Not bragging on the Bing Carb, would much rather have a
> good electronic fuel injection system.
>
> I am not a mechanic/engineer/dealer. But I have seen them work and
> work well without user input to change jetting or set up.
>
> 1994 was a different story for the carbs on the 912 that were not the
> least bit happy at anything below cruise power, which is 5,000 rpm for
> me. As soon as I would back off cruise, at temps in the 30s and 40s,
> the engine felt it was coming out of the mounts. Shuddered and shook
> something frightening. The following winter, after some user
> experimentation and a lot more flight time, I discovered the 912S
> manufactured in late 1992 was tuned very lean in midrange. Any
> further leaning would invoke complaints from the engine.
>
> On the other hand, the 912S, manufactured late 1999, had since had the
> carb tuning changed. Never had any problems, right out of the box,
> with the 912S flying in the same geographical and meteorogical
> conditions.
>
> NOTE: My post is not to cause controversy. Simply expressing my
> point of view, for those that would think otherwise. :-)
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I'll echo Bill's comments. You can also find a lot of discussion on the
AeroElectric list archives, Bob Nuckoll's used to sell them and has a
wiring diagram on his web site. It is a great little radio. I can't turn
the knobs with gloves on, and you'll want to mount it where you don't have
to stretch too much to get at it, because the controls are small, but if you
can fit it in a convenient spot it's really nice to use. If I was starting
from scratch and a new panel layout, I might look at the ICOM, or something
with bigger knobs, but I'm happy enough with the 760. The performance is
great.
When I first installed it I thought I was picking up RF noise somewhere and
went to a lot of trouble moving wires, different antennas, etc., until I
figured out it was just cockpit wind and engine noise. With the enclosed
cabin it's working a lot better. I'm using a Sigtronics SPO22N portable
intercom, permanently mounted to the panel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William George" <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: William George
<wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
>
> John and troopers,
>
> I have been using one for a couple of years. It is a great little
> radio. You can preset a bunch of freqs in the order you will use them
> and just toggle through as necessary. It even has a built in option to
> control the toggling through a stick mounted switch. The only downside
> is that the volume/squelch/freq knobs are really tiny and have very
> little in the way of a friction detent.
>
> Bill George
> Hawaii
> Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Anyone have or had experience with the Micro Air 760 VHF transceiver?
> >
> > I am interested.
> >
> > The radio of small, about 2.5" square and 5.5" deep. Can mount in
> > 2.25" instrument hole or come up with your own.
> >
> > Has intercom built in for two with side tone.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Ralph/all, having both styles in my plane I can attest to the structural
integrity of the aluminum H. The bent/destroyed wing that I rebuilt
had one in it and even though the spar was bent like a banana, the
H was fully intact and undamaged. The previous owner was kind
enough to include a new steel version in my purchase.
The big drawback is repairs, where the rivets go into blind end
holes. I cut it up to remove it and the spar from the ribs.
I have zero concerns about the aluminum Hs that remain in the plane.
-BB do not archive
ul15rhb@juno.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
>
>
>On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:59:31 -0600 "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>writes:
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>
>> | Any idea how many landings are on the boom, John? Well, some
>>people keep
>>| track, like me...(518 to date).
>>| Kip
>>
>>Morning Kip/Gang:
>>
>>There's 5,372 landings in my log book since I got my PVT ticket.
>>That
>>figure includes about 30 hours 152, factory MKIII and Sling Shot
>>time.
>>
>>I would guess, without going through the log books, near 5,000 on
>>Miss
>>P'fer.
>>
>>That averages out to about 2.5 per hour.
>>
>>Take care,
>>
>>john h
>>
>>
>
>John,
>
>I was surprised to hear the H-section is made of aluminum on your Mark
>III. Intuition tells me that thin aluminum legs on the H-section would
>add little strength to the inside of the fuse tube. The Original Firestar
>has chromoly steel in both the wings and fuse tube. Old Kolb did it right
>the first time. I wonder if the new Kolbs are aluminum too. Somehow, I
>missed this bit of information over the years or the senior moments are
>becoming more frequent. I have 2500+ landings on mine and don't see any
>signs of loose rivets on the fuse tube, but then my Kolb is 540lbs gross.
>
>I've noticed, John, that you stand on your fuse tube to look at the top
>of the engine. I have never stood on mine. Even with the chomoly
>H-section, I would think my weight would stress it quite a bit. I have
>noticed the main 3/8" bolt has loosened up a turn or two after 15 years.
>Those bolts in the wings have locktite on them and this one didn't.
>
>I made my last winter flight of the season up here in the great
>northland. I landed on skis out on the lake about 12 times. It's getting
>too warm, too fast. Yesterday was blue skies and light winds with a high
>of 34F. The lakes are melting and there goes my winter flying activities.
>
>Ralph
>Original Firestar
>17 years flying it
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fire in da hole |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
> What about an onboard fire extinguishing system that one could deploy by
hand?
>
> pp
>
> do not archive
>
> Paul,
I have one mounted right under the passengers legs, just in front of the
seat.
IMHO every aircraft should have one.
Denny Rowe, MK-3, PA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Russ Kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
They always used to teach pilots to OPEN THE DOORS!!! if a crash is
imminent; I sure hope they still do. Maybe even more important than killing
the switches.
REuss Kinne
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Not thin, they are 1" OD, 1/2" ID tubing, 1/4" thick walls.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 10:49 AM 2/22/04 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
>
>I was surprised to hear the H-section is made of aluminum on your Mark
>III. Intuition tells me that thin aluminum legs on the H-section would
>add little strength to the inside of the fuse tube.
<snip>
>Ralph
>Original Firestar
>17 years flying it
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
John & All
Even if a master switch is used, when you trip the panel switch some arcing
will occur on both the panel switch and the master solenoid as the
contracts break. The instrument panel switch while enclosed is not
necessarily sealed. The same could be true for the master solenoid
depending upon the specific switch. The presence of just the right
air/fuel mixture is the key factor - you could submerge the switches in
fuel and nothing would likely happen - but put them in just the right
air/fuel mixture and even the small arc would ignite the fumes. This is
why working on empty fuel tanks is so dangerous.
jerb
do not archive
At 09:35 AM 2/22/04 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>|He couldn't reach the master switch
>| as I recall. Probably a good thing too as an arc created by opening
>the
>| circuit under load could have ignited the fumes.
>| Kirk
>
>Snuffy/All:
>
>Not trying to create an argument, but aren't most continuous duty
>solenoids used as master switches sealed?
>
>I agree that switches that are not easy to reach are pretty much
>useless in emergency situation.
>
>john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fire in da hole |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
of the
| seat.
| IMHO every aircraft should have one.
|
| Denny Rowe, MK-3, PA
Denny/Gang:
You are a good man, Denny.
I too have a Halon Fire Extinguisher in my MK III.
Also had one in the Firestar, something unheard of in the early days.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| They always used to teach pilots to OPEN THE DOORS!!! if a crash
is
| imminent; I sure hope they still do. Maybe even more important than
killing
| the switches.
| REuss Kinne
Reuss/All:
Would that not depend on where the crash was going to occur, like over
water.
I prefer to keep the doors closed crashing on land and especially into
trees.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|
| Probably are in most certificated aircraft. The toggle that is
mounted
| on the panel probably isn't.
Sunf/All:
I buy my continuous duty solenoids from RV shops now. Before that I
paid about twice as much for "airplane" CD solenoids. Both were
sealed. Same goes for intermittent duty solenoids for starter.
I use a combination of aircraft and other toggle switches. Some came
from xray machines from Bill Griffin's scrap yard. Those are also
sealed.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: inertia switch |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Boyd is correct in saying that ELTs are supposed to arm/go off at a
forward G spike.
This means attention to the physical placement of the ELT--making
certain that the G sw is located/aligned where a forward spike will trip
it. I sold several dozen EBC ELTs in early 70s, and installed a lot of
them...and cked installations done by others. The worst...and
many...were the installations on the leftside cabin interior, right
below the windshield on 172s and 150s. This is a piece of .032 or
thinner without any stiffening. In some crashes the ELT would not get
the full spike of G, but would have the spike softened by being attached
to the flexible side panel.
It's one pc of equip. you don't want SHOCK mounted!
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Fw: Fabric Piper Restoration Seminar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I thought this might be of interest to some. Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Fabric Piper Restoration Seminar
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Dear Fabric Piper Owner / Enthusiast,
Thank you for your interest in the upcoming restoration seminar. As the fabric
Piper fleet ages and newer, younger owners and restorers take over, I find an
ever increasing need to educate the current and future generation of owners and
rebuilders on what the standards were when these aircraft were built, the oldest
of which are now over 60 years in age. I can sense this lack of knowledge
by the questions that are asked and all the phone calls and letters that I
receive. The "Type Clubs" 'are doing a great job passing on information and experiences
among the membership, but there is still a missing link, especially
for those who don't belong to an owners club. It is for this reason that I have
decided to put my restoration work to the side and conduct a field training
program where I can go to the people, alone with various training aids, and
work with them in small groups instead of one on one by mail or over the phone
as I have been doing for nearly 20 years now. By using slides, video tapes,
diagrams, and actual "hands on" methods of instruc=C2=ADtion and demonstration,
there is not a more effective way to pass this information across. An additional
advantage is the camaraderie and friendship among the students and the sharing
of information and experiences of other students. That's what it's all
about.
With nearly nineteen years of my life spent working for Piper in such capacities
as drafting, technical writing, technical instruction, product support on all
the older models, and when called back to work in Vero Beach, was a man=C2=ADager
and creator of the Cub Kit program. With all this experience and exposure,
I feel well qualified and capable of con=C2=ADducting this mobile school program.
I also own four fabric Piper models myself. A 1946 J-3, a PA-12, a
PA-15, and the prototype PA- 16 Clipper. This is my goal, to preserve the past
for the future, and pass this information on so that these fine airplanes may
be preserved, maintained, and enjoyed well into the future.
Now to tell you a little more about the upcoming seminar. By the way, if you don't
even own an airplane yet, this is a fantastic way to familiarize yourself
with each of the models and find out all there is to know from service problems
to performance specs, and what you might expect to pay for a particular model
that you are interested in. On. the first day we begin with a presentation
of the Genealogy of the early Pipers. We'll discuss all the FAA AD notes that
per=C2=ADtain to the airframe, engine and accessories. As the class progresses
we'll go over the whole restoration process in great detail from tear down
to the final inspection and test flight. We'll discuss cleaning, inspection,
fabricating parts, and where to get parts and supplies. We'll also talk about
covering, painting upholstering, and final touches. There will be demonstrations
and a chance for some "hands on" experience. We'll end up with rigging
and annual inspections. If time and space allow, workshop duties will include
rib repair methods, wing panel tramming, rigging, Graco/Croix paint sprayer demonstration,
and even fabric covering and stitching. Each student will receive
an information packet including a notebook, pen, and a generous supply of very
informative handouts. Decals and some small parts will be displayed for sale
during the seminar. Old photos and factory reference books, along with currently
published books on Piper history 'II also be displayed. Video's pertaining
to Piper history will be shown during evening hours. If desired. workshop
duties may continue after the final day, and I will be available, for a fee,
for small duties or consulting.
Coffee and doughnuts will be supplied, complimentary, every morning. Lunch and
dinner will be up to the par=C2=ADticipants. EAA Chapter 1073 will have their
BBQs going for a nominal charge and the classroom and instructor will be available
for hangar flying. Group dinners at a local restaurant seem to be a popular
idea. Don't delay and miss out. Class size is limited. The seminar tuition
will still be $300.00 per person for the 2004 year, with spouses and family
members under 21 at half price. Returning students from previous seminars
will also be half price if space allows. As a courtesy to the host, and for plan=C2=ADning
purposes, please pre-pay at least 6 weeks in advance(April 9, 2004).
Checks may be made out to Cub Restoration Services. The instructor reserves
the right to cancel a class if attendance is not sufficient. All funds received
will be returned. Your host will provide lodging and transportation information
as well as directions to the seminar site. Come join in and be a part
of this friendly and informative session, and bring some photos of your airplane
or project with you. I'm looking forward to meeting you.
Sincerely,
Original signed by Clyde Smith, Jr.
Instructor, A&P, IA
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
top
| of the engine.
I have never stood on mine. Even with the chomoly
| H-section, I would think my weight would stress it quite a bit.
I have
| noticed the main 3/8" bolt has loosened up a turn or two after 15
years.]]
Ralph/Ya'll:
I have always got up on the tail boom to get to the top of the engine,
Firestar and MKIII.
Compared to the force exerted by that long tail boom and tail wheel
strut on the H brace, my 185 lbs is negligible. Never had a rivet
loosen up on the Firestar and it had 755 hours.
Moving the main gear fwd increased the amount of stress on the H brace
on my MK III.
I doubt the nut backed off the 3/8" H brace bolt in your boom tube.
Most likely paint, dope, fabric, and wear on that point will allow the
bolt to get loose.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:05:14 -0500 Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Not thin, they are 1" OD, 1/2" ID tubing, 1/4" thick walls.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> do not archive
Richard/gang
I guess I jumped to conclusions on that one. I would hope they would be
every bit as strong as the chromoly steel H-sections.
Wouldn't the aluminum ones be more labor intensive to build? Other than
having matching metals for corrosion purposes, why do you suppose they
switched to aluminum?
Thanks,
Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: inertia switch |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
By hitting hard, I meant something like a failed stall recovery,
resulting in hitting the ground at a large angle. And I've seen an ELT
go off on a violent ground loop. I would think(?) that ELTs might
encounter higher Gs in larger planes with stiffer construction. Our ULs
have considerable "give" which is great in modulating crash forces--like
the old JN4s where pilots often walked away from crashes that
pulverized the plane.
Bob N.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:31:12 -0600 "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> I doubt the nut backed off the 3/8" H brace bolt in your boom tube.
> Most likely paint, dope, fabric, and wear on that point will allow
> the
> bolt to get loose.
>
> john h
John,
Where the 3/8" bolt goes through has no paint, dope, or fabric there. I
left my rear cage open with no paint on the fuse tube.
Ralph
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
In a way, we're talking apples and oranges here. I was taught the same as
Russ when learning to fly - in Cessnas. The reasoning is that the doors can
jam shut in a crash, preventing exit from the plane........and that is a
very possible scenario in a 152 or 172. With our Kolbs, it's a whole
different set-up, and different rules could apply. In the case of the Z-max
that Don mentioned, I believe that has a bubble canopy that lifts up for
exit from the plane. Since the plane was on its' back, the canopy couldn't
be lifted, and the pilot couldn't exit. I'd a gone loco in such a
situation, too, with gas pouring all over me. With the Kolbs, it's hard to
picture a crunch - in a Mk III - where you couldn't get out one side or the
other. You'd sure have plenty of incentive. Also hard to picture the doors
jammed closed, tho' I guess Murphy's Law applies here as much as anywhere.
Seems to me, never having been there, that they'd be more likely to pop
open. Also, in flight, I don't think you could open the doors on a Mk III
if you wanted to. What do you think, John ?? Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> is
> killing
>
> Reuss/All:
>
> Would that not depend on where the crash was going to occur, like over
> water.
>
> I prefer to keep the doors closed crashing on land and especially into
> trees.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
While I was looking for the earlier link, I ran across this one. This guy
was using the overvoltage module that causes your alternator circuit breaker
to open when the output of your alternator goes above 16 volts or so. His
problem was that when he released the starter switch, the voltage spike from
the starter contactor coil caused the overvoltage module to trip. Pretty
interesting problem to debug. It's relevant to this discussion because it
points to a potential problem - the spike from the starter contactor can
cause an arc that eventually destroys the switch.
I didn't use the Rotax starter contactor on my 912, I used one from B&C
that had the spike-catcher diode already installed. If you are using the
Rotax contactor you may want to see if arcing is causing any wear to your
starter switch.
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=1396535?KEYS=master_&_diode?LISTNAME=AeroElectric?HITNUMBER=250?SERIAL=12022313057X?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
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From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: crash fires
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> John & All
> Even if a master switch is used, when you trip the panel switch some
arcing
> will occur on both the panel switch and the master solenoid as the
> contracts break. The instrument panel switch while enclosed is not
> necessarily sealed. The same could be true for the master solenoid
> depending upon the specific switch. The presence of just the right
> air/fuel mixture is the key factor - you could submerge the switches in
> fuel and nothing would likely happen - but put them in just the right
> air/fuel mixture and even the small arc would ignite the fumes. This is
> why working on empty fuel tanks is so dangerous.
> jerb
> do not archive
>
> At 09:35 AM 2/22/04 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >
> >|He couldn't reach the master switch
> >| as I recall. Probably a good thing too as an arc created by opening
> >the
> >| circuit under load could have ignited the fumes.
> >| Kirk
> >
> >Snuffy/All:
> >
> >Not trying to create an argument, but aren't most continuous duty
> >solenoids used as master switches sealed?
> >
> >I agree that switches that are not easy to reach are pretty much
> >useless in emergency situation.
> >
> >john h
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
John
I have talked to Jabiru USA several times about the MicroAir 760. The
intercom is not that good they say. It is a PTT type. I am planning to
install the radio in my MK III X and use the intercom you have/recommend.
The Jabiru site has the wiring diagram for the radio.
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> I like the fact that it's small and has the builtin intercom.
> Perfect for a
> | Doug Lawton
>
> Doug/All:
>
> Mine too, Doug. How well does the intercom work? Was not clear
> whether it had a PTT capability for intercom or "turn on, leave on" as
> I understood from all the searches I did for info last night.
>
> Sky Sports sells a wiring harness for $190.00, which is way too much
> for that. Are you familiar with the requirements for wiring the
> radio? I wonder if the plug on the wiring harness comes with the
> radio? If so, it probably will not be that difficult to do my own
> wiring.
>
> Most of my intercom/VHF comm problems have been traced to wiring
> damage caused by the infamous rats a couple years ago. Every once in
> a while more damage in the form of chewed wires and cut wire
> insulation appears. They can do a lot of damage and in places one can
> not see.
>
> Thanks for the info,
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
The installation manual is available from the Microair site,
http://www.microair.com.au/index.aspx?page=157&mid=2
The intercomm is not voice operated - you turn it on with a switch. You can
make it a momentary contact switch like a PTT or a panel switch to leave it
on all the time. The Sigtronics intercomm was very easy to hook up just the
mic and headphone line to the pilot's side of the Microair. The intercom
delivers sound to both. I didn't use the PTT wiring of the intercom, I just
wired the switch directly to the Microair. Works like a champ.
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From: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
>
> John
> I have talked to Jabiru USA several times about the MicroAir 760. The
> intercom is not that good they say. It is a PTT type. I am planning to
> install the radio in my MK III X and use the intercom you have/recommend.
> The Jabiru site has the wiring diagram for the radio.
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| Subject: | Radio Interference Fixes? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
Fellow Flyers,
I am in the process of installing an Icom A-21 radio in my plane with
a 582 and need to do something about the radio interference from the
engine. I was wondering what kind of wire can or should be used for
shielded kill switch wires? I have some 18 gauge shielded "security
system" wire. Would that work ok for the kill wires? Is there anything
else that I should be doing? Do you just shield the kill wires or must I
shield the a/c alternator wires going to the rectifier / regulator? I
have installed the resister spark plugs but have not installed the
shielded caps or ign. wires. I have not had a chance to recheck it since
replacing the plugs. Thanks, Earl Z.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Russ Kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Sorry for making a possibly confusing statement. When I said OPEN THE DOORS
-- I meant just unlock/unlatch them. You just about can't open doors
inflight, with most aircraft.
And on fire extinguishers -- I feel it's a good idea always to carry one in
cars, boats & aircraft -- but remember you'll be BREATHING whatever you
spray around. You can safely breathe HALON at concentrations that will put
out fires. Dry-chemical? -- not a good idea. Hard to clean up too.
Russ Kinne
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: c.f.white@att.net
Hi All:
Anyone have or had experience with the Micro Air 760 VHF transceiver?
I am interested.
John, I have both the 760 VHF and also their matching transponder. Both work great!
Be sure and buy the wiring harness that is available already assembled, it
doesn't cost much and includes wiring for intercom. Also be sure to turn the
mike gain way down on the intercom - if you don't, the background noise from
the engine makes it difficult to hear.
Regards...
Charles White
Rollins, Montana 59931
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| Subject: | Re: crash fires also contactor diode |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Just stick a small el cheapo diode across the coil terminals. SWAG1a.@150PIV. Pos
to Pos!!
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Elder" <billelder@denver.net>
John,
I have a Microair 760 installed on my MK III Classic with a DRE 244
intercom. Works great! All radio checks have been loud and clear. Antenna
mounted on the bottom of the nose cone with a pretty good sized grounding
plane (.025 aluminum). Bill in Colorado
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi All:
>
> Anyone have or had experience with the Micro Air 760 VHF transceiver?
>
> I am interested.
>
> The radio of small, about 2.5" square and 5.5" deep. Can mount in
> 2.25" instrument hole or come up with your own.
>
> Has intercom built in for two with side tone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
|
| anybody have any pics of aileron counterbalaces on a ultrastar?
Ronnie/All:
Never seen any on an US, but I took some pics of mine a few minutes
ago.
They would look and attach same on all Kolb wings. Only exception
would be wall thickness of leading edge of the aileron, which will
determine the size of the tube that slides into the end of the aileron
leading edge tube.
All the pics are here:
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Aileron%20Counter%20Balance%20Weights/
Click on each file to see the pic.
Now........all the pics are not of counter balance weights. Some are
practice shots with the digi cam Clay Stuart sent me. You may also
look at them. hehehe
If you have any questions, let out a shout.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Both work great! Be sure and buy the wiring harness that is available
already assembled, it doesn't cost much and includes wiring for
intercom. Also be sure to turn the mike gain way down on the
intercom - if you don't, the background noise from the engine makes it
difficult to hear.
|
| Regards...
|
| Charles White
| Rollins, Montana 59931
Charles W/Gang:
Thanks to everyone who responded to m question about the MicroAir 760.
Rather than respond to all of them, this will save me some time.
Again, Thanks!
I looked at Sky Sports who also sell the MicroAir 760 and the wiring
harness. Sky Sports wants $190.00 for the wiring harness. Seems a
bit much for my budget, or any one else's, for that matter.
Charles, where did you get your radio and wiring harness? Would you
mind telling me how much you paid for the harness for the VHF?
Aircraft Spruce has the VHF for 743.00, but did not see anything about
the wiring harness. Guess could call them in the morning and see if
they have it and how much. BTW, that was the best price I could find
on the MicroAir 760.
How about the intercom? Did you use a seperate intercom or the one in
the MicroAir? Duncan McBride uses a Sigtronics intercom. I already
have one installed in the aircraft, a Sig 400SN.
Anybody got anything else on this radio, or a good alternative, let me
know.
Thanks to all,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Antenna
| mounted on the bottom of the nose cone with a pretty good sized
grounding
| plane (.025 aluminum). Bill in Colorado
Bill/All:
What are the dimensions on your ground plane?
Just now reading a post on Bob Nukolls List. He says the ground plane
radius should be, as a minimum, the length of the antenna. May
airplane is not that wide where I have my antenna mounted under the
nose pod.
I think my ground plane is about 10 or 12" in diamter. Been working
ok on the other two radios.
Thanks, Bill.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I've been using the $5.00 dipole that Boyd Young put on the list a while
back. I get great results with it, and I didn't even install it correctly -
one end should go up and the other down, and I laid them sideways. Anyway,
it worked as well as a 1/4 wave whip and a 20" square ground plane in the
rear of the fuselage like Richard Pike's, so I stayed with the dipole. A
piece of coax runs from the radio to the nose where the center conductor
exits the shielding. Equal lengths of the center conductor and shielding
separate 180 degrees from each other and extend in as straight a line as
possible, which isn't very far. Mine run from the nose just about back to
the instrument panel. But it works ok. I'm hunting for the link. Here
http://www.brigham.net/~byoung/antenna.html
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Antenna
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
many thanks john, ron in tx.
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flap and Aileron hinge devations
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
> Ronnie/All:
>
> Never seen any on an US, but I took some pics of mine a few minutes
> ago.
>
> They would look and attach same on all Kolb wings. Only exception
> would be wall thickness of leading edge of the aileron, which will
> determine the size of the tube that slides into the end of the aileron
> leading edge tube.
>
> All the pics are here:
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Aileron%20Counter%20Balance%20Weights/
>
> Click on each file to see the pic.
>
> Now........all the pics are not of counter balance weights. Some are
> practice shots with the digi cam Clay Stuart sent me. You may also
> look at them. hehehe
>
> If you have any questions, let out a shout.
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
John H..
hey pard..those pics came across real dandy..I sure am glad you got that
digital....Aint this internet something..here you are taking pics just
before the sun goes down clear down in there...and I am looking at em just
after supper all the way up here in Illinois!
Thanks for the pics!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | MKIII motor rail/spacer drawings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "GDay@mycingular.com" <GDay@mycingular.com>
Can someone email me a copy of the MKIII motor mount rail/spacers drawings for
the 582? I have found the info I needed in the archives, but cannot find the drawings.
Thanks
Giovanni Day
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
John, Lar, Kolbers, et.al...
Back on line again... not quite dead yet, but working on it... Finally
got computer running tonight... The younger hoodlum (computerman) tells me I
had a L2 bios "event" of some sort which then promptly corrupted the
operating system... happened about Christmas, but things got right
interesting at work and I didn't have time to fool with it (him) until this
week.... Stuffed a little more loot down the 'ol automation rathole,
smiled, and am trying to move on....
So what did I miss...??? More Kolb internecine tribal warfare....?
....technical breakthroughs...? somebody market a 40 horsepower, 40 pound,
4-stroke that bolts right onto a FireFly? See if it will all condense down
to a couple of paragraphs.... heh, heh...
Went out to the patch, dragged the kleenex airplane out of the trailer and
flew 1.1 this afternoon.... first time out in 6 weeks.... beautiful day...
shirtsleeves... CAVU.... lots of buzzards out lazing around in the
thermals.... Whilst jammed back into the sling seat listening to that
stupid little Rotax sing its guts out on takeoff, I caught myself
grinning... and was reminded once again why we put ourselves through all
this.... lubrication for the soul....
Consider me contacted... thanks for asking...... :-)
Beauford, The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon
FF- 076
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Lar.
>
>>
> Maybe we need to contact Beauford. :-)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Interference Fixes? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
I think any shielded wires ought to work. I used Radio Shack shielded wire
from the engine to the panel for the tach and kill switches. Used plain
wire from the engine to the reg/rect. No shields on the plug wires or caps,
no problems. Using an old Terra 720 handheld hardwired into the panel.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 04:06 PM 2/22/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
>
> Fellow Flyers,
> I am in the process of installing an Icom A-21 radio in my plane with
>a 582 and need to do something about the radio interference from the
>engine. I was wondering what kind of wire can or should be used for
>shielded kill switch wires? I have some 18 gauge shielded "security
>system" wire. Would that work ok for the kill wires? Is there anything
>else that I should be doing? Do you just shield the kill wires or must I
>shield the a/c alternator wires going to the rectifier / regulator? I
>have installed the resister spark plugs but have not installed the
>shielded caps or ign. wires. I have not had a chance to recheck it since
>replacing the plugs. Thanks, Earl Z.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| hey pard..those pics came across real dandy..I sure am glad you got
that
| digital....Aint this internet something..here you are taking pics
just
| before the sun goes down clear down in there...and I am looking at
em just
| after supper all the way up here in Illinois!
|
| Thanks for the pics!
|
| Don Gherardini
Don G/All:
Amazing technology.
I had the pics on the way to the Kolb List within minutes of taking
them.
The camera is 1997 or 98 technology, a Kodak EC260, 1.0 mp. Does a
great job. Eats AA bats like they were going out of style. Clay
encouraged me to invest in some new fangled bats and a charger to keep
from being bankrupt.
I am amazed at the quality of the pics. I have done nothing to doctor
them up. I use ACDSee ver 6.0. A HP 3970 scanner and away we go.
Also reduce them to 800X600 before I upload with WS FTP Pro.
One of these days I shall take the time to learn to do a web page, a
real one. But for now, you all are stuck with my index page.
There's a new digi cam somewhere in the future. I have been looking,
reading reviews, and comparing prices. I would like to have one
before I start flying this year. We shall see.
The camera is much better than laying parts on my scanner and
uploading. :-)
Ya'll take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Beauford,
Great to have you back. You have been asked about several times over the
past couple months. Your good natured personality and humorous way of
looking at things has been missed. Welcome back.
"do not archive"
John Cooley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
Subject: Kolb-List: Checking In
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
John, Lar, Kolbers, et.al...
Back on line again... not quite dead yet, but working on it...
Finally
got computer running tonight... The younger hoodlum (computerman) tells
me I had a L2 bios "event" of some sort which then promptly corrupted
the operating system... happened about Christmas, but things got right
interesting at work and I didn't have time to fool with it (him) until
this
week.... Stuffed a little more loot down the 'ol automation rathole,
smiled, and am trying to move on....
So what did I miss...??? More Kolb internecine tribal warfare....?
....technical breakthroughs...? somebody market a 40 horsepower, 40
pound,
4-stroke that bolts right onto a FireFly? See if it will all condense
down
to a couple of paragraphs.... heh, heh...
Went out to the patch, dragged the kleenex airplane out of the trailer
and flew 1.1 this afternoon.... first time out in 6 weeks.... beautiful
day... shirtsleeves... CAVU.... lots of buzzards out lazing around in
the thermals.... Whilst jammed back into the sling seat listening to
that stupid little Rotax sing its guts out on takeoff, I caught myself
grinning... and was reminded once again why we put ourselves through all
this.... lubrication for the soul....
Consider me contacted... thanks for asking...... :-)
Beauford, The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon
FF- 076
-----
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Lar.
>
>>
> Maybe we need to contact Beauford. :-)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
I have been a ham for about 3 years and the 2 meter and 440 bands would be
great to talk back and forth with other flyers. now it is relatively
simple to get your license.
SRglink
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelvin Kurkowski" <kkurkow@chase3000.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kelvin Kurkowski"
<kkurkow@chase3000.com>
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
>
>
> >
> > any of you guys ham operators?
>
> I have been a ham for nearly 30 years but probably the most inactive one
in
> history. I always liked DX (long distance communication) and never got in
> to the 2meter thing. About the time I got to a place in my life that I
> could get going on it again, a thing called email came along, and the Dx
got
> real simple and much less expensive(had to have the internet for family
and
> business anyway). Maybe when I'm cured of these other "deseases" like
> aviation, or become homebound or bedfast, I will continue.
> Tnx KB0BSL
> Kelvin Kurkowski
> Grant NE
>
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
trailer and
| flew 1.1 this afternoon.... first time out in 6 weeks.... beautiful
day...
| shirtsleeves... CAVU.... lots of buzzards out lazing around in the
| thermals.... Whilst jammed back into the sling seat listening to
that
| stupid little Rotax sing its guts out on takeoff, I caught myself
| grinning... and was reminded once again why we put ourselves through
all
| this.... lubrication for the soul....
|
| Consider me contacted... thanks for asking...... :-)
|
| Beauford, The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon
| FF- 076
Beuford/All:
Don't think you missed a thing.
Check the Archives and see. hehehe
I did the same thing you did today with the exception of pulling Miss
P'fer out of the trailer.
You got me beat by .1 hours. I flew 1.0, shirt sleeves, CAVU, and
calm air. First flight since early January.
Hope you will grace us humble folks with your presence at Paradise
City in April.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Loose Rivets/Tail Boom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
They were pretty simple, a big "H" with the cross bar heliarc'd in place.
Looked like something made in a jig in about 5 minutes, and looked pretty
stout.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 01:31 PM 2/22/04 -0600, you wrote:
><snip>
>Wouldn't the aluminum ones be more labor intensive to build? Other than
>having matching metals for corrosion purposes, why do you suppose they
>switched to aluminum?
>
>Thanks,
>Ralph
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 2/21/04 11:48:40 PM Central Standard Time,
donghe@one-eleven.net writes:
<<
When I measure mine..for my own reference...I measure it 1 inch from the
tip...at 11.5 deg the Cuyuna UL-II-02 will turn my 60' IVO 5900 static or so
with a 2.58 gearbox...Runs out at 6300 IN FLight WOT..75 to 79 mph
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>>
Don
Thanks for
the info. Have you had good luck with your Cuyuna?
Ed (in Houston)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
ED...This is the 3rd airplane for me with a cuyuna..and there are 2 more in
old snowmobiles out in the shed....it has been my favorite engine for alot
of years....actually..since it was THE engine for a little airplane...I
havent had any major probs with any of em..
well...In aircraft anyway...I did burn a hole in a piston in my old 440
scorpion way back in about 80..chaseing a coyote on a day that was too
warm...withb 2 people on the sled...never did blame the engine considering
how i ran it.
Only forced landing (with a Cuyuna) I have had was actually in the
firefly....well...2 actually.....1 when the polychain redrive belt jus let
go at 30 hours....was no big deal....landed in a fresh cut bean feild about
2 miles from homeplate..Put a gearbox on it the next day...
The other was when the cooling fan belt busted on a long climbout about 5 or
6 miles from the airstrip....I noticed the temps going up...and leveled off
at about 3k agl....when they didnt go down much with reduced throttle...I
knew something was wrong..so I turned back and made it back ok by playing
with the throttle to keep temps down...
Thats about all I can think of....Considering what some fellas go thru....I
figure I have really had no probs at all!
AS far as I am concerned..it really is as good as any 40hp or
below.....(that statement oughtta get em going!!) Hehe
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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