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1. 12:27 AM - Re: Checking In (Larry Bourne)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: Radio Interference Fixes? (Dave Rains)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: MicroAir 760 (Bill Elder)
4. 07:32 AM - Re: Radio Interference Fixes? (Denny Rowe)
5. 07:50 AM - Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 (Doug Lawton)
6. 08:11 AM - Re: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 (garvelink)
7. 08:15 AM - Re: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 (John Hauck)
8. 08:15 AM - Re: Prop Pitch (H MITCHELL)
9. 09:32 AM - Re: Checking In (William George)
10. 09:55 AM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (H MITCHELL)
11. 10:10 AM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (John Hauck)
12. 10:45 AM - Training Hoop (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
13. 11:03 AM - Re: Training Hoop (John Hauck)
14. 11:10 AM - Verner 4 stroke (Bill Martin)
15. 11:47 AM - crash (boyd young)
16. 11:47 AM - ham opperator (boyd young)
17. 11:47 AM - radio and intrxcom (boyd young)
18. 11:47 AM - ki8ll wires (boyd young)
19. 11:56 AM - Re: Training Hoop (Richard Pike)
20. 12:09 PM - Re: Training Hoop (Denny Rowe)
21. 12:16 PM - Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations (Denny Rowe)
22. 12:20 PM - Re: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 (Denny Rowe)
23. 12:32 PM - Re: Training Hoop (Don Gherardini)
24. 12:39 PM - Re: crash (John Hauck)
25. 12:39 PM - Outboard Rib reinforcement (Rex Rodebush)
26. 12:44 PM - MicroAir 760 Wiring Harness (John Hauck)
27. 12:52 PM - Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement (John Hauck)
28. 01:51 PM - Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement (Christopher Armstrong)
29. 02:05 PM - Re: Radio Interference Fixes? (Guy Morgan)
30. 03:23 PM - Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement (John Hauck)
31. 04:44 PM - Transporting an ultrastar. (garvelink)
32. 04:58 PM - Re: Transporting an ultrastar. (BKlebon@aol.com)
33. 05:59 PM - Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement (WillUribe@aol.com)
34. 06:01 PM - Re: Transporting an ultrastar. (ronnie wehba)
35. 06:03 PM - secure ultrastar (ronnie wehba)
36. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Bing 64 - Auto leaning like HAC? (Thom Riddle)
37. 08:55 PM - Re:ham opperator (GDay@mycingular.com)
38. 09:00 PM - Re: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale (John Williamson)
39. 10:13 PM - Re: Prop Pitch (DAquaNut@aol.com)
40. 11:43 PM - Re: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale (WillUribe@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
That's a relief............wasn't sure if'n you'd checked out, or jist
gittin' uppity. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Checking In
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> John, Lar, Kolbers, et.al...
> Back on line again... not quite dead yet, but working on it... Finally
> got computer running tonight... The younger hoodlum (computerman) tells me
I
that bolts right onto a FireFly? See if it will all condense down
> to a couple of paragraphs.... heh, heh...
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| Subject: | Radio Interference Fixes? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
I run a 582 and several radios, VHF,UHF,and Trunking, and have had no radio interference.
Didn't need to do anything.
Dave.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman [SMTP:emzi@supernet.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: Radio Interference Fixes?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
Fellow Flyers,
I am in the process of installing an Icom A-21 radio in my plane with
a 582 and need to do something about the radio interference from the
engine. I was wondering what kind of wire can or should be used for
shielded kill switch wires? I have some 18 gauge shielded "security
system" wire. Would that work ok for the kill wires? Is there anything
else that I should be doing? Do you just shield the kill wires or must I
shield the a/c alternator wires going to the rectifier / regulator? I
have installed the resister spark plugs but have not installed the
shielded caps or ign. wires. I have not had a chance to recheck it since
replacing the plugs. Thanks, Earl Z.
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| Subject: | Re: MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Elder" <billelder@denver.net>
John
Don't have access to the airplane now but it's a "D" shaped grounding plane
that fits right in front of the cage brace (where you bolt the nosecone to
the cage). It fills the bottom area of the nosecone without bending up on
the sides. Hope that makes sense. Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Antenna
> grounding
>
> Bill/All:
>
> What are the dimensions on your ground plane?
>
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Interference Fixes? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
>
> Fellow Flyers,
> I am in the process of installing an Icom A-21 radio in my plane with
> a 582 and need to do something about the radio interference from the
> engine. I was wondering what kind of wire can or should be used for
> shielded kill switch wires? I have some 18 gauge shielded "security
> system" wire. Would that work ok for the kill wires? Is there anything
> else that I should be doing? Do you just shield the kill wires or must I
> shield the a/c alternator wires going to the rectifier / regulator? I
> have installed the resister spark plugs but have not installed the
> shielded caps or ign. wires. I have not had a chance to recheck it since
> replacing the plugs. Thanks, Earl Z.
Earl,
I always run the kill wires in shielded two conductor 16-18 awg Beldon, I
use the NGK resistive plugs and caps like Tom Olenik sales.
My radio is the A-21 and in three differant aircraft, I have never had
ignition interference. No need for the metal spark plug caps or shielded
plug wires as far as I've seen.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
John,
First let me say, I've not started purchasing any radio or electronic gear
for my current project yet, (still sanding and filling, etc.) so virtually
everything I say is third hand experience (So much for my CMA disclaimer).
Your additional questions got me to wondering about the radio and built in
intercom, so I called my Bro' up in TN to get an update.
Well, the guy on our field who was having the intermittent problems, is
still having them. Said it cleared up for about 2 months when he found the
wiring problem, and then started doing it again. After extensive additional
searching, he pulled the instrument and sent it back to the factory. So
far, he hasn't gotten it back. I guess dealing with a company as far away
as Australia can be a pain. He did mention that his first impression of the
folks he'd dealt with at MicroAir wasn't positive. They were very defensive
and arrogant regarding their product and whether or not it could have
possibly have been their fault for the problems he was having. Time will
tell but that's not usually a good sign. He was quoted something like
$400.00 bucks to service the radio plus shipping. Sounds kinda high for a
$700.00 retail radio.
Also, Brother John has one of these radios in his single place sailplane, it
came with the plane when he bought it. Obviously, he's not using the
intercom function in a single place, but he said that he's had problems with
the radio also. He didn't go into much detail other than to say he'd never
by another one. He went with a Garmin 250 XL GPS/COM in his current
project.
And, he said that most of the guys on the field are using the "Becker" AR
4201 which is a bit more expensive, but fits the same size hole, has
intercom, internal lighting among other features. Spruce lists it at
$1095.00.
Anyhow, I thought that since I had given the apparent wrong impression in my
earlier response, that I'd clear that up. I'll just shut up now and stop
giving out advice on things I have no "first hand" experience
with..........;
)
Come see us when you get the chance!
Fly Safely,
Doug
NE Georgia & Whitwell TN
Doug/All:
Mine too, Doug. How well does the intercom work? Was not clear
whether it had a PTT capability for intercom or "turn on, leave on" as
I understood from all the searches I did for info last night.
Sky Sports sells a wiring harness for $190.00, which is way too much
for that. Are you familiar with the requirements for wiring the
radio? I wonder if the plug on the wiring harness comes with the
radio? If so, it probably will not be that difficult to do my own
wiring.
Most of my intercom/VHF comm problems have been traced to wiring
damage caused by the infamous rats a couple years ago. Every once in
a while more damage in the form of chewed wires and cut wire
insulation appears. They can do a lot of damage and in places one can
not see.
Thanks for the info,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
doug,
I am from chattanooga where do you fly out of? is it the glider port in
the sequachie valley?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
>
> John,
>
> First let me say, I've not started purchasing any radio or electronic gear
> for my current project yet, (still sanding and filling, etc.) so virtually
> everything I say is third hand experience (So much for my CMA disclaimer).
> Your additional questions got me to wondering about the radio and built in
> intercom, so I called my Bro' up in TN to get an update.
>
> Well, the guy on our field who was having the intermittent problems, is
> still having them. Said it cleared up for about 2 months when he found
the
> wiring problem, and then started doing it again. After extensive
additional
> searching, he pulled the instrument and sent it back to the factory. So
> far, he hasn't gotten it back. I guess dealing with a company as far away
> as Australia can be a pain. He did mention that his first impression of
the
> folks he'd dealt with at MicroAir wasn't positive. They were very
defensive
> and arrogant regarding their product and whether or not it could have
> possibly have been their fault for the problems he was having. Time will
> tell but that's not usually a good sign. He was quoted something like
> $400.00 bucks to service the radio plus shipping. Sounds kinda high for a
> $700.00 retail radio.
>
> Also, Brother John has one of these radios in his single place sailplane,
it
> came with the plane when he bought it. Obviously, he's not using the
> intercom function in a single place, but he said that he's had problems
with
> the radio also. He didn't go into much detail other than to say he'd
never
> by another one. He went with a Garmin 250 XL GPS/COM in his current
> project.
>
> And, he said that most of the guys on the field are using the "Becker" AR
> 4201 which is a bit more expensive, but fits the same size hole, has
> intercom, internal lighting among other features. Spruce lists it at
> $1095.00.
>
> Anyhow, I thought that since I had given the apparent wrong impression in
my
> earlier response, that I'd clear that up. I'll just shut up now and stop
> giving out advice on things I have no "first hand" experience
> with..........;
> )
>
> Come see us when you get the chance!
>
> Fly Safely,
>
> Doug
> NE Georgia & Whitwell TN
>
>
> Doug/All:
>
> Mine too, Doug. How well does the intercom work? Was not clear
> whether it had a PTT capability for intercom or "turn on, leave on" as
> I understood from all the searches I did for info last night.
>
> Sky Sports sells a wiring harness for $190.00, which is way too much
> for that. Are you familiar with the requirements for wiring the
> radio? I wonder if the plug on the wiring harness comes with the
> radio? If so, it probably will not be that difficult to do my own
> wiring.
>
> Most of my intercom/VHF comm problems have been traced to wiring
> damage caused by the infamous rats a couple years ago. Every once in
> a while more damage in the form of chewed wires and cut wire
> insulation appears. They can do a lot of damage and in places one can
> not see.
>
> Thanks for the info,
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
impression in my
| earlier response, that I'd clear that up. I'll just shut up now and
stop
| giving out advice on things I have no "first hand" experience
| with..........;
| Doug
Morning Doug/Gang:
Thanks for the info.
So far my research on the Kolb List and internet have resulted in
every thing from praise to not so happy.
I am still undecided. Yesterday the little Icom worked flawlessly. 6
weeks prior, it had a terrible noise when the xmit key was pushed.
Who knows about these things.
I'll try to get everything squared away by time to fly, which is not
far away.
MV in less than 3 months. Alaska in 4 months. Better get busy or
I'll be left behind.
Take care,
john h
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Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:15:30 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Ed et al,
I'm not sure where the info came from but I always measure the pitch the same way
Don G. did. The important thing of course is to always measure it the same
way while you are optimizing the pitch.
Duane the Plane, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN 007.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: DAquaNut@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop Pitch
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 2/21/04 11:48:40 PM Central Standard Time,
donghe@one-eleven.net writes:
<<
When I measure mine..for my own reference...I measure it 1 inch from the
tip...at 11.5 deg the Cuyuna UL-II-02 will turn my 60' IVO 5900 static or so
with a 2.58 gearbox...Runs out at 6300 IN FLight WOT..75 to 79 mph
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
Welcome back Beauford. We missed ya.
Tip: Get a Mac ;-)
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
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On Feb 22, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
> John, Lar, Kolbers, et.al...
> Back on line again... not quite dead yet, but working on it...
> Finally
> got computer running tonight...
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:54:52 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Ronnie / John H. and all,
I have not followed this thread from the beginning but noticed that the outboard
hinge on my Mk3 seems to be a long ways from the counterbalance. Do I need to
install an additional hinge a little closer to the wing tip? I know that with
an extra hinge there may be some binding as the aileron is moving while the
wing is flexing and the hinges are out of line. No plans to do it right now.
John I laughed out loud when I read your statement about getting away from engineering
making a guy feel better. I've tried but it still haunts me .
Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN 007, Mk3/912 N7078A.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: ronnie wehba
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flap and Aileron hinge devations
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
many thanks john, ron in tx.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flap and Aileron hinge devations
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> | --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> |
> | anybody have any pics of aileron counterbalaces on a ultrastar?
>
> Ronnie/All:
>
> Never seen any on an US, but I took some pics of mine a few minutes
> ago.
>
> They would look and attach same on all Kolb wings. Only exception
> would be wall thickness of leading edge of the aileron, which will
> determine the size of the tube that slides into the end of the aileron
> leading edge tube.
>
> All the pics are here:
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Aileron%20Counter%20Balance%20Weights/
>
> Click on each file to see the pic.
>
> Now........all the pics are not of counter balance weights. Some are
> practice shots with the digi cam Clay Stuart sent me. You may also
> look at them. hehehe
>
> If you have any questions, let out a shout.
>
> john h
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
away from engineering making a guy feel better. I've tried but it
still haunts me .
|
| Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN 007, Mk3/912 N7078A.
Hi Duane/Gang:
Save me some shrimp and mullet. I may have to head down to Panacea
for my regular seafood fix at any moment.
If I need numbers and engineering, I can always count on Duane to help
me out. He is definitely an engineer. I would like to see him and
Jack Hart get together. Wouldn't matter if anyone else was around or
not. These two guys would be locked up in numbers and engineer stuff.
The wings built to Kolb specs with counterbalance weights get the job
done for me. I used more hinge, but not necessary. My personal
choice to do so.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
John H wrote: << Yea! And put one of those funky looking training hoops or
training wheels under the nose? No thanks. >>
John -
I had to laugh when I read this! Because it was exactly this "training
hoop" (referred to by the Kolb Factory as a "noseover hoop") that saved my
nose fairing from incurring damage when I did my first-ever "landing" in my
Mark-3. Got too slow while still 8 feet up and pancaked it onto the
asphalt. Bent both gear legs AND the nose hoop, but no other damage (other
than my pride).
I installed a new hoop, and now that I've learned how to land my Kolb, I
probably do not need that nose hoop. But I'm gonna leave it there just in
case!
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, Verner-powered, and still on training wheels, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Training Hoop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I installed a new hoop, and now that I've learned how to land my
Kolb, I
| probably do not need that nose hoop. But I'm gonna leave it there
just in
| case!
|
| Dennis Kirby
Denis/All:
Glad someone is laughing. So is Duane the Plane. Me too. My tach is
on the way. I can get down to some serious prop calibration when it
gets here. Then on to other maintenance and repairs for the trip to
MV and AK. Times a wasting.
I too have put the MKIII on its nose. With a "large" gent in the
right seat of "Fat Albert", I turned the tail to the wind at S&F.
Forgot to shove the stick forward and she was on her nose. Helpless
feeling sitting like that at the fence with all those spectators
staring at us. hehehe
Also put the Fire Fly on its nost a couple years ago, at S&F. Same
thing minus the passenger. Fast taxi downwind. Oops! Big problem
was the 447 was set to idle too fast, dry grass, good tail wind, and
little brakes. Had a hard time getting the little bugger stopped so I
could get it back on its tail wheel.
The above explains why Miss P'fer looks and sits a little different
from stock Kolbs. She had never been on her nose because of balanced
weight on the mains.
As long as the Kolbs are balanced so close to the cg on the mains,
they are going to be prone to getting up on their snouts. :-)
Its either the training hoop or a hole in the nose pod to get you foot
down on the ground to stop it from tipping up.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Martin" <allpro2@bellsouth.net>
Hey Dennis,
How do you like the Verner engine? Does it have enough get up and go?...Is
throttle response good? What about payload, do you have the same compared
to the 912, 80 horse engine? Would you do it again?
Bill in central Florida
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, Verner-powered, and still on training wheels, in
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Seems to me, never having been there, that they'd be more likely to pop
open. Also, in flight, I don't think you could open the doors on a Mk III
if you wanted to. What do you think, John ?? Lar.
--------------------
i have pushed mine open a bit to get some air in during a summer flight.... have
wondered what would happen if it went over center.... would it remain controlable
or would the sind diip it closed.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
any of you guys ham operators?
-------------------------------------------
yes i just picked up the vxa-700 airband / 2 meter hamband handheld....
going to try and see how many repeaters per frequency i can hit at 10,000 ft.
boyd young
kolb mkIII c
N7WFM extra class
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| Subject: | radio and intrxcom |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
The intercomm is not voice operated - you turn it on with a switch. You can
make it a momentary contact switch like a PTT or a panel switch to leave it
on all the time. The Sigtronics intercomm was very easy to hook up just the
mic and headphone line to the pilot's side of the Microair. The intercom
delivers sound to both. I didn't use the PTT wiring of the intercom, I just
wired the switch directly to the Microair. Works like a champ.
when i first got my sigtronics spo22n i used a ptt that was between the intercom
and the radio... was always told the audio was poor.... started using the
ptt functon of the intercom and was told that things were a lot more clear.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
. I was wondering what kind of wire can or should be used for
shielded kill switch wires? I have some 18 gauge shielded "security
system" wire. Would that work ok for the kill wires?
Earl Z
-------------------
i used coax... i grounded it at the engine and ran it to the control box at the
top of the windshield. where i ran the center conductor and the braid to the
terninals on the kill switch. anything elce that can be isolated will help
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Training Hoop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
You know about pilots and retractable gear? And landing with the gear up?
"There's them that has, and them that will"
I look at my training hoop as Kolb's concession to that same syndrome,
"There's them that has and them that will." Maybe more than once.
(One down, ??? to go)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>| I installed a new hoop, and now that I've learned how to land my
>Kolb, I
>| probably do not need that nose hoop. But I'm gonna leave it there
>just in
>| case!
>|
>| Dennis Kirby
>
>Denis/All:
>
>Glad someone is laughing. So is Duane the Plane. Me too. My tach is
>on the way. I can get down to some serious prop calibration when it
>gets here. Then on to other maintenance and repairs for the trip to
>MV and AK. Times a wasting.
>
>I too have put the MKIII on its nose. With a "large" gent in the
>right seat of "Fat Albert", I turned the tail to the wind at S&F.
>Forgot to shove the stick forward and she was on her nose. Helpless
>feeling sitting like that at the fence with all those spectators
>staring at us. hehehe
>
>Also put the Fire Fly on its nost a couple years ago, at S&F. Same
>thing minus the passenger. Fast taxi downwind. Oops! Big problem
>was the 447 was set to idle too fast, dry grass, good tail wind, and
>little brakes. Had a hard time getting the little bugger stopped so I
>could get it back on its tail wheel.
>
>The above explains why Miss P'fer looks and sits a little different
>from stock Kolbs. She had never been on her nose because of balanced
>weight on the mains.
>
>As long as the Kolbs are balanced so close to the cg on the mains,
>they are going to be prone to getting up on their snouts. :-)
>
>Its either the training hoop or a hole in the nose pod to get you foot
>down on the ground to stop it from tipping up.
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Training Hoop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
John H wrote:
>
> Denis/All:
>
> Glad someone is laughing. So is Duane the Plane. Me too.
Dennis, John, Duane, others,
I was laughing also, good one John.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Flap and Aileron hinge devations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Duane asked:
> Ronnie / John H. and all,
>
> I have not followed this thread from the beginning but noticed that the
outboard hinge on my Mk3 seems to be a long ways from the counterbalance. Do
I need to install an additional hinge a little closer to the wing tip? I
know that with an extra hinge there may be some binding as the aileron is
moving while the wing is flexing and the hinges are out of line. No plans to
do it right now.
>
Duane,
I have counter weights on my Mk-3 with the standard hinges, they are plenty
strong enough, I also thought about the extra tip hinges but decided to
leave well enough alone.
Either way it will work fine, I have seen others like John H with the extra
hinges that do not have any binding problems.
Keep us posted on your progress, I am looking foreward to seeing yours,
uncle Craigs and his nephews birds completed.
Denny Rowe.
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| Subject: | Re: Revised Recomendation On MicroAir 760 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> I am still undecided. Yesterday the little Icom worked flawlessly. 6
> weeks prior, it had a terrible noise when the xmit key was pushed.
> Who knows about these things.
>
> I'll try to get everything squared away by time to fly, which is not
> far away.
>
> MV in less than 3 months. Alaska in 4 months. Better get busy or
> I'll be left behind.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> John,
I am sure you know this but check all the connections and also the xmit key,
you might put another ptt in parrallel with the original to see if it takes
care of the problem. Good luck.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Training Hoop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Dennis..John....and the gang..
I was so worried about busting up my nose pod..that I also put a training
hoop on my Fly....And then..after about 30 hours or so without ever getting
it even scuffed...I was feeling kind cocky...ahhh..I really didnt need that
thing...I thought to myself...should never put it on there..look funny...
THEN..
I flew over at a fly-in at another airport...landed and spent an hour or
better gazing at beautiful Waco's...it was a Waco get together,
Upon leaving....I gave it too much throttle to fast. Leaned forward up to
turn on the GPS.....and ....WhEeeee......up she went.....running along on
that nose skid like a hound on a rabbit trail...seemed like I had to almost
shut the throttle near off before it would come back down....took alot
longer than I though it would...and as I rotated..much further dont the
grass strip than I planned to....I looked over and of course....about
everybody down there was looking at me...jeez....I dont think those Waco
drivers even glanced at my FireFly till I was leaving....and of
course...then they all had to be looking.
Sure glad I had that traing wheel on there then...cause if I didnt..I would
have had to stop and hear whatever they were saying about that crazy
ultralite driver!
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Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
flight.... have wondered what would happen if it went over center....
would it remain controlable or would the sind diip it closed.
| boyd
Larry/Boyd/And the rest of you all:
Airstream keeps door in the popped open position. Never tried the
over center exercise and hope I don't. Imagine the door would rip
right off in a flash, or hang on and beat you to death.
john h
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| Subject: | Outboard Rib reinforcement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
John,
Thanks for the picture. I've been hearing about this rib reinforcement
deal for months but never could figure out exactly what was going on.
Now it makes sense. Looks nice & simple with minimal weight addition.
Rex Rodebush
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Outboard Rib Reinforcement
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Good Morning Kolbers:
>
> Was trying to find some other info for Paul Petty, rivet sequence for
> attaching ribs to spar. While looking through my old MKIII
> supplemental drawings, came across this page:
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| Subject: | MicroAir 760 Wiring Harness |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Got an answer from Aircraft Spruce on wiring harness. They have them
and would love to send me one for 143.95 plus shipping and handling.
Better than 190.00 but still seems awfully expensive for what one
gets.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
reinforcement
| deal for months but never could figure out exactly what was going
on.
| Now it makes sense. Looks nice & simple with minimal weight
addition.
|
| Rex Rodebush
Rex/Gang:
I agree.
I bet that supplemental plans sheet surprised a lot of people when
they first saw it. Especially after hearing the blazing discription
of it from someone who seemed not to know what he was talking about.
Glad I found it. And glad it might help to enlighten some of us.
john h
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| Subject: | Outboard Rib reinforcement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Especially after hearing the blazing discription
of it from someone who seemed not to know what he was talking about.
If you're talking about me, I knew what I was talking about ( I have that
plans sheet in my workshop with the plane) and I still don't think that
adding the mod on every rib on the plane is an efficient way to increase the
strength of the wing for flight loads. Putting it on the outboard rib to
handle ground handling or wing tip strike loads makes sense. Adding it to
every rib in the plane to handle airloads is not the most efficient use of
material. Dennis S. designed the mod, and I think he agreed with me.
I don't think it is a bad thing to do, it will indeed stiffen up the ribs
and it doesn't weight much. I didn't want to sound "blazing" about it, but
it didn't make sense to me to take a truss wing rib structure and add a
cantilevered wing rib structure on top of it. Adding triangulation out of
the plane of the rib will stiffen it up much more for a given amount of
weight. (adding 2 tubes at +-45 degrees from the leading edge tube to the
main spar stiffens up the front of the wing very well.) The ribs on the
Kolb's are held in column by the fabric. On their own they have very little
strength (almost none) out of plane. The angle mod does a great job of
stiffening this up, but out of plane triangulation does the job using less
material.
If you are not talking about me then never mind
Topher
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Interference Fixes? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
Hey Guys. We always use MIL-DTL-27500-22SB1T23 shielded wire for avionics installs.
The -22 is the guage, the SB is shielded/braided, the # following SB 1/2/
or 3 etc. is the # of strands. When you install comm wires, be sure to only ground
one end of the shield. Otherwise, you'll set up a ground loop and cause
all kinds of noise and poor performance. Lemme know if I can be of further assistance.
Guy Morgan ( Galveston Kolber wanna-be)
-- Kolb-List message posted by: Earl Mim Zimmerman emzi@supernet.com
Fellow Flyers,
I am in the process of installing an Icom A-21 radio in my plane with
a 582 and need to do something about the radio interference from the
engine. I was wondering what kind of wire can or should be used for
shielded kill switch wires? I have some 18 gauge shielded "security
system" wire. Would that work ok for the kill wires? Is there anything
else that I should be doing? Do you just shield the kill wires or must I
shield the a/c alternator wires going to the rectifier / regulator? I
have installed the resister spark plugs but have not installed the
shielded caps or ign. wires. I have not had a chance to recheck it since
&
gt; replacing the plugs. Thanks, Earl Z.
Earl,
I always run the kill wires in shielded two conductor 16-18 awg Beldon, I
use the NGK resistive plugs and caps like Tom Olenik sales.
My radio is the A-21 and in three differant aircraft, I have never had
ignition interference. No need for the metal spark plug caps or shielded
plug wires as far as I've seen.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Topher/Gang:
I didn't have you in mind when I made that comment, but can add you to
the list if you wish. JUST KIDDING. :-)
The mod has worked for me and continues to work. It may not be the
best in the world for you or anyone else. At the time, it solved a
requirement, and keeps on doing just that. Thank goodness I don't
have to explain how it works, but I'm happy. My mod and I like it.
Yes, I agree, the fabric also assist keeping the rib noses in column,
but the leading edge has a critical roll. If the leading edge is not
properly braced, fails laterally, the rib noses also fail. I saw that
happen on my Firestar. Thus, a primary reason for me to try to get a
little more mileage out of my wings.
I probably should hire you on as my resident engineer, but we would
both starve to death.
Take care and no hard feelings,
john h
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| Subject: | Transporting an ultrastar. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Thank goodness for this list. Now that I finally have figured it out. Great information.
Now the question
In a short time I am going to go pick up an ultrastar. I will trailor it back
in an enclosed tralior. how can I protect the wings from damage on this long
commute about 500 miles + -- will it ride in the retracted position ok.
Steve Garvelink
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting an ultrastar. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BKlebon@aol.com
You will need to build some type of support to keep the tail wheel off the
trailer floor. the blue-prints and instruction book should explain how to do
this. I use bungee cords around the aileron counter balances to help stabilize
the winga and keep them from movint too much.
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard Rib reinforcement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Snip
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Especially after hearing the blazing discription
> of it from someone who seemed not to know what he was talking about.
Hey,
I resemble that remark
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting an ultrastar. |
required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
When I got mine it was about 150 miles and wind blowing like "unreal" we
folded the tail and wings used some old carpet pad and 1" ratchat straps to
secure the wings and tail, just make sure you check that the wings are on
the tubing mount and tight ,or they might come off and rip some fabric I
know!! used a 16' trailer loaded front first tied it down good, built a
structure to set the boom in out of 2x4's and secured it.and drove home at
50 because of the 30+ winds that day,,, had to repair a couple of fabric
rips in the top of the wings where they came loose from the tubing holder
"my fault" and fell and ripped. hope this helps!
----- Original Message -----
From: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Transporting an ultrastar.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
>
> Thank goodness for this list. Now that I finally have figured it out.
Great information. Now the question
>
> In a short time I am going to go pick up an ultrastar. I will trailor it
back in an enclosed tralior. how can I protect the wings from damage on
this long commute about 500 miles + -- will it ride in the retracted
position ok.
>
>
> Steve Garvelink
>
>
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| Subject: | secure ultrastar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
sorry forgot,, but secure the ailerions good
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| Subject: | Re: re: Bing 64 - Auto leaning like HAC? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Thanks John and others. Your explanation was good enough for me but I may download
the service manual anyway since I am a glutton for data...it gives me the
illusion that I actually understand some of this stuff. The most valuable information
was that it works to 12,000 ft and beyond and that is good enough for
me. As Tom Olenik said, the convenience of not having to manually change the retainer
position periodically makes it all worth while. When I had the HAC on
my old 582 powered Zenith 701, I adjusted the HAC twice a year, in late fall,
and late spring just to make sure all was up to snuff.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re:ham opperator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "GDay@mycingular.com" <GDay@mycingular.com>
yea I am a ham. KG4UHD is the call. I have tried it from 7k agl and you have to
aim the radio down at locals or your very directional RD will shoot over them.
Later.
Giovanni
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| Subject: | Re: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Hi Rick and all,
Yes the Kolbra is FOR SALE. I am going to fly it until it sells or until I
get my new project finished and need the radios and engine for it. I am
planning on flying the Kolbra to Sun n'Fun, Monument Valley, Whitefish, MT
and possibly Oshkosh this spring and summer.
I just spent the weekend out in Gig Harbor, Washington where I bought the
tail kit to my project and went to the 21st Annual Northwest Aviation
Conference & Trade Show at the Pierce County Fair Grounds.
http://www.washington-aviation.org/
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 518 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 2/23/04 10:16:18 AM Central Standard Time,
mitchmnd@msn.com writes:
<<
I'm not sure where the info came from but I always measure the pitch the
same way Don G. did. The important thing of course is to always measure it the
same way while you are optimizing the pitch.
Duane the Plane, Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN 007.
>>
Duane/ Don / Jack/Others
Thanks for the replies on Prop pitch
Someday I WILL Finnish my firefly& actually FLY it. (the Lord willin)
Seems Lar Borne was pretty far along, When I started, so I guess Im
not doing too bad . Ha!
Ed ( in Houston)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
> I just spent the weekend out in Gig Harbor, Washington where I bought the
> tail kit to my project and went to the 21st Annual Northwest Aviation
> Conference & Trade Show at the Pierce County Fair Grounds.
Hi John,
What will you be building next?
I'm working in Miami, FL any Kolb drivers in the area?
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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