---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/24/04: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:29 AM - Re: Prop Pitch (Larry Bourne) 2. 06:03 AM - Re: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale (Denny Rowe) 3. 07:32 AM - Re: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 4. 08:07 AM - Re: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale (Larry Bourne) 5. 08:08 AM - john w's mystery ship (Bob Bean) 6. 08:47 AM - noises when hit the xmit button (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com) 7. 09:28 AM - Re: noises when hit the xmit button (John Hauck) 8. 12:09 PM - My New Project (John Williamson) 9. 12:51 PM - Re: My New Project (Robert Laird) 10. 01:14 PM - Re: My New Project (ul15rhb@juno.com) 11. 01:37 PM - Re: My New Project (John Hauck) 12. 02:05 PM - Re: Transporting an ultrastar. (Richard Swiderski) 13. 02:11 PM - Re: My New Project (Denny Rowe) 14. 02:49 PM - Re: My New Project (Richard Swiderski) 15. 03:28 PM - Re: My New Project (ronnie wehba) 16. 03:52 PM - Re: My New Project (ronnie wehba) 17. 04:06 PM - Re: My New Project (Robert Laird) 18. 04:25 PM - Re: My New Project (ronnie wehba) 19. 07:20 PM - Re: My New Project (Robert Laird) 20. 07:52 PM - Fw: Gas Prices (CRAIG M NELSON) 21. 08:00 PM - Re: Fw: Gas Prices (herbgh@juno.com) 22. 08:31 PM - Re: My New Project (David & Maria Lumgair) 23. 08:34 PM - That was stupid - (David & Maria Lumgair) 24. 08:56 PM - Re: Fw: Gas Prices (Bob N.) 25. 09:18 PM - Re: Vamoose & fishin (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:42 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop Pitch --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Hooo Boy ! ! ! I've become the standard for slowpoke............this is terrible. Guess I better get crackin'. My back is slowly healing, so if this rain (in Palm Springs ! ! !) ever stops, progress will be made. Are we on for fishin' this summer, Ed ?? I'll be passin' thru in July sometime, headin' for Lousy-ana and points east. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Prop Pitch > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > In a message dated 2/23/04 10:16:18 AM Central Standard Time, > mitchmnd@msn.com writes: > > Seems Lar Borne was pretty far along, When I started, so I guess Im > not doing too bad . Ha! > > Ed ( in Houston) > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:57 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > Hi John, > What will you be building next? > > I'm working in Miami, FL any Kolb drivers in the area? > > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, TX > FireStar II N4GU > C-172 N2506U > http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ > do not archive Yeah, What is the next project John? When you said you picked up the tail kit in Washington I figured it must be an RV, but if you are using your 912 engine, it can't be a Vans aircraft. Come on, the suspense is killing me. :-) Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:40 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Yes tell us what you are building. Hey is this like the owing a home when you get it like you want its time to sell? Let us know if you will be making Oshkosh this summer, we will save a camping spot for you and you Kolbra. If you can throw out a drogue chute to slow down enough you are welcome to fly in with hopefully a gaggle of Kolbs and maybe a kitfox. Also if you or anyone else are flying thru mid lower Michigan this summer you are welcome at my home/stip anytime. Please don't do like Larry Bourne and wait till I'm at Oshkosh to swing thru. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIII Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > Hi Rick and all, > > Yes the Kolbra is FOR SALE. I am going to fly it until it sells or until I > get my new project finished and need the radios and engine for it. I am > planning on flying the Kolbra to Sun n'Fun, Monument Valley, Whitefish, MT > and possibly Oshkosh this spring and summer. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:26 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > > Yes tell us what you are building. Hey is this like the owing a home Please don't do like Larry Bourne > and wait till I'm at Oshkosh to swing thru. > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIII > > Do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Williamson" > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson has his Kolbra for Sale > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > > > > Hi Rick and all, > > > > Yes the Kolbra is FOR SALE. I am going to fly it until it sells or until I > > get my new project finished and need the radios and engine for it. I am > > planning on flying the Kolbra to Sun n'Fun, Monument Valley, Whitefish, MT > > and possibly Oshkosh this spring and summer. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:34 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Kolb-List: john w's mystery ship --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean If you're smart, everything you have is for sale....at the right price. Hmmm, how about a long wing sonex , 912 powered? Nah, guess not since he's going for a tail section and the sonex is bent tin. For me the ultimate off the shelf toy would be a Stemme motorglider. -BB do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:03 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: noises when hit the xmit button From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com 02/24/2004 11:43:41 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com John H. and List members: I have had a problem in the past that sounds similar to yours. On occasion, I have also heard loud strange warbling noises when pushing the xmit button on my Icom hand held radio while the David Clark intercom was on. No problem with the intercom off however. The funny thing was, when I ripped everything out and took it home, I had trouble duplicating the problem. Eventually sent the intercom back to David Clark and had some phone discussions with one of their technicians. Apparently, my problem is caused by the intercom being too close to the transmitting antenna. You may be a bit limited in your options there, but to the extent that you can, try to maximize the distance between the two. The David Clark guys added a capacitor to the intercom that they said would help, but there apparently wasnt a guaranteed-to-always work solution other than further separation between antenna and intercom. They also advised me that using brand new batteries in the intercom would help, as that somehow provides additional capacitance. Cant say I understand all the issues here, but I have done what they suggested and have had good success. regards, Erich Weaver ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:46 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noises when hit the xmit button --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | I have had a problem in the past that sounds similar to yours. | Erich Weaver Erich/Gang: I think you probably save me about 1,500.00. What you say duplicates what I have experienced. January flight was about 4.5 hours with full battery (aircraft 12V). Then the airplane sat for 6 weeks. During that time the bat went completely dead. Last flight was operating primarily on the alternator. Bat never came up above 6 volts without the alternator. Radio was crystal clear. I have experiemented with different antenna, from wire whip to rubber ducky. Mounted the rubber ducky on the radio, right in front of the intercom and it worked ok. Also under the nose pod in place of whip. Worked ok there too. I talked to Mark Kelly at Sigtronics. He is sending me another wiring harness for the intercom. Also a resistor (or somthing) to wire in the system to give me more head phone volume. Says that the intercoms sometimes eat up hand held radio volume without this fix. As long as I can talk to Control Towers and FSS I am happy with what I have. If this fix give me more volume with my little ICOM A3 so I can understand other aircraft I fly with, I will be happy. Thanks for the information. I think you helped me solve my problem and save a bundle. john h ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:45 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Fellow Kolb enthusiasts, Times change and flying requirement also change. For some strange reason my wife thinks I am having way to much fun flying by myself and wants to join in. My new project is a Zenith S.T.O.L. CH 701. With the 912S on it, the wife and I can go about anywhere we want to and still stay low and low. This will also allow me to build out of metal which I have wanted to do for a long time Bob B. guessed it right when he said "every thing you own is for sale for the right price." The Kolbra is for sale. Details at: http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/2002_KOLB_KOLBRA.htm John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra: 518 hours, Rotax 912 ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:50 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird John -- A buddy of mine just bought an already-built-and-flying CH701.. He loves it! And it's a beautiful machine, with an astonishingly quiet 912S (a lot quieter than mine). But he said, if it has any downside, it's that when he's flying low and slow, he can't see out of the front because the angle is so steep. He'll get used to it, I'm sure, and have many hundreds of happy hours flying it, but I thought I'd mention that so you could mentally prepare for that situation. -- Robert P.S. You can view raw (very large) image files of it here (don't even attempt them without cable modem or DSL): http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2391.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2392.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2393.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2394.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2395.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2396.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2397.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2398.JPG http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2399.JPG DO NOT ARCHIVE At 02:09 PM 2/24/2004, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > >Fellow Kolb enthusiasts, > >Times change and flying requirement also change. For some strange reason my >wife thinks I am having way to much fun flying by myself and wants to join >in. > >My new project is a Zenith S.T.O.L. CH 701. With the 912S on it, the wife >and I can go about anywhere we want to and still stay low and low. This >will also allow me to build out of metal which I have wanted to do for a >long time > >Bob B. guessed it right when he said "every thing you own is for sale for >the right price." > >The Kolbra is for sale. Details at: >http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/2002_KOLB_KOLBRA.htm > > >John Williamson >Arlington, TX > >Kolb Kolbra: 518 hours, Rotax 912 ULS >http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ > >do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project From: ul15rhb@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com Robert, I got a ride in a 701 last fall and I thought it was a great airplane with the exception of the obstruction of the cowling in front. For us Kolbers, this would be quite a change. On landing, I could not see over the nose. This was very disturbing to me. I liked the idea of having a plane that was faster than a Mark III and just as slow as an ultralight, but the visibility in front would be almost unacceptable for me. Now if someone would design an all-metal plane like this with good visibility, they've got a market. The CT Cruiser (CT2K) is very close, but is a composite plane and very expensive. do not archive Ralph Original Firestar 17 years flying it -- Robert Laird wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird A buddy of mine just bought an already-built-and-flying CH701.. He loves it! And it's a beautiful machine, with an astonishingly quiet 912S (a lot quieter than mine). But he said, if it has any downside, it's that when he's flying low and slow, he can't see out of the front because the angle is so steep. He'll get used to it, I'm sure, and have many hundreds of happy hours flying it, but I thought I'd mention that so you could mentally prepare for that situation. -- Robert ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:37:26 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" the wife | and I can go about anywhere we want to and still stay low and low. This | will also allow me to build out of metal which I have wanted to do for a | long time John W/Gang: We'll still let you tag along if you want to. Us Kolber's ain't prejudice. Doesn't Chris Heintz have a four place version of the 701? Two pilots and a lot of cargo! Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:39 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Transporting an ultrastar. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" Steve, All the comments are good ones. An additional consideration is that that UltraStar might be an older model where the wing folding u-joint is on the front spar instead of on the rear drag strut. The later models moved it to the rear so the folded height would clear a 7ft garage door. The front joint version will not & probably will neither clear an enclosed trailer. Your options are to either, remove the wings (one bolt) & place their leading edge on foan & secure to the walls, or you could just remove the bolt & lower the wing while its still hanging from the rear bracket. In that case you'd need to hang it with eg., wire & securely tie off the top & bottom to keep them from flopping around. I had to do this every time I trailed mine. It was no big deal, I just hung them with a stiff wire & bungeed them secure, & I also replaced the bolt with an AN bolt with a tab in place of the hex head, ground the threaded tip slightly round to facilitate aligning holes (& help prevent threads from scrapping hole on every use) & used a wing nut & clip in place of the nylock nut. Was quick & easy & allowed wing to hang low. ...Richard Swiderski Ps: if you use the wing nut method, make sure the nut is snug, as a simple pin in this position would not be sufficient. In a short time I am going to go pick up an ultrastar. I will trailor it back in an enclosed tralior. how can I protect the wings from damage on this long commute about 500 miles + -- will it ride in the retracted position ok. Steve Garvelink ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:44 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > > My new project is a Zenith S.T.O.L. CH 701. With the 912S on it, the wife > and I can go about anywhere we want to and still stay low and low. This > will also allow me to build out of metal which I have wanted to do for a > long time > > Bob B. guessed it right when he said "every thing you own is for sale for > the right price." > > The Kolbra is for sale. Details at: > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/2002_KOLB_KOLBRA.htm > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra: 518 hours, Rotax 912 ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ > > do not archive > > John, Congrats on the new project! I also hope to build out of metal someday and will most likely go with the Sonex. After riding in an RV-8 last summer I do not have any reservations about the visibility of a low wing airplane, the RV-8 exceedes my Mk-3 in visibility. They both are far superior in this regard than any other planes I've experienced. However as the Sonex doesn't fly as slow as a Kolb or 701, I'll just have to keep my Kolb for slow flying sorty's. :-) Take Care, Denny Rowe ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:55 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" As long as we are dreaming... If I could afford another plane in addition to my Kolb, I'd also go for Bob Bean's dream of a motor glider. The most fun flying I ever did was chasing thermals in my old UltraStar with the engine off & listening to the wind whistling by my ears. The only plane that could tempt me into selling my Kolb is Steve Whitman's Buttercup with an incredible speed envelope. If I remember correctly it's like 40 to 130mph. It's a tube & rag, scratch built kit, side by side, tractor. Its rough field capable & has a good rate of climb. I believe it has retractable front leading edge & flaperons. Richard Swiderski Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ul15rhb@juno.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com Robert, I got a ride in a 701 last fall and I thought it was a great airplane with the exception of the obstruction of the cowling in front. For us Kolbers, this would be quite a change. On landing, I could not see over the nose. This was very disturbing to me. I liked the idea of having a plane that was faster than a Mark III and just as slow as an ultralight, but the visibility in front would be almost unacceptable for me. Now if someone would design an all-metal plane like this with good visibility, they've got a market. The CT Cruiser (CT2K) is very close, but is a composite plane and very expensive. do not archive Ralph Original Firestar 17 years flying it -- Robert Laird wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird A buddy of mine just bought an already-built-and-flying CH701.. He loves it! And it's a beautiful machine, with an astonishingly quiet 912S (a lot quieter than mine). But he said, if it has any downside, it's that when he's flying low and slow, he can't see out of the front because the angle is so steep. He'll get used to it, I'm sure, and have many hundreds of happy hours flying it, but I thought I'd mention that so you could mentally prepare for that situation. -- Robert ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:01 PM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" to john williamson, Please e-mail me rwehba@wtxs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > | My new project is a Zenith S.T.O.L. CH 701. With the 912S on it, > the wife > This > for a > | John Williamson > > John W/Gang: > > We'll still let you tag along if you want to. Us Kolber's ain't > prejudice. > > Doesn't Chris Heintz have a four place version of the 701? Two > pilots and a lot of cargo! > > Take care, > > john h > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:52:23 PM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project required 5, BAYES_00, WEIRD_PORT) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" robert can you shrink the pics for us slow pokes? also says page cannot be displayed at noon I looked at 2 but now no way?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > > John -- > > A buddy of mine just bought an already-built-and-flying CH701.. He loves > it! And it's a beautiful machine, with an astonishingly quiet 912S (a lot > quieter than mine). But he said, if it has any downside, it's that when > he's flying low and slow, he can't see out of the front because the angle > is so steep. He'll get used to it, I'm sure, and have many hundreds of > happy hours flying it, but I thought I'd mention that so you could mentally > prepare for that situation. > > -- Robert > > P.S. You can view raw (very large) image files of it here (don't even > attempt them without cable modem or DSL): > > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2391.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2392.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2393.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2394.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2395.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2396.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2397.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2398.JPG > http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Photo/169NIKON/DSCN2399.JPG > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > At 02:09 PM 2/24/2004, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > > >Fellow Kolb enthusiasts, > > > >Times change and flying requirement also change. For some strange reason my > >wife thinks I am having way to much fun flying by myself and wants to join > >in. > > > >My new project is a Zenith S.T.O.L. CH 701. With the 912S on it, the wife > >and I can go about anywhere we want to and still stay low and low. This > >will also allow me to build out of metal which I have wanted to do for a > >long time > > > >Bob B. guessed it right when he said "every thing you own is for sale for > >the right price." > > > >The Kolbra is for sale. Details at: > >http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/2002_KOLB_KOLBRA.htm > > > > > >John Williamson > >Arlington, TX > > > >Kolb Kolbra: 518 hours, Rotax 912 ULS > >http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ > > > >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:40 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 05:44 PM 2/24/2004, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > >robert can you shrink the pics for us slow pokes? also says page cannot be >displayed at noon I looked at 2 but now no way?? Sure, I'll shrink 'em! Give me a few hours and I'll give you a web page! -- Robert do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:17 PM PST US From: "ronnie wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > > At 05:44 PM 2/24/2004, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > > > >robert can you shrink the pics for us slow pokes? also says page cannot be > >displayed at noon I looked at 2 but now no way?? > > Sure, I'll shrink 'em! Give me a few hours and I'll give you a web page! > > -- Robert > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:57 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 06:17 PM 2/24/2004, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > >thanks Ronnie -- Try this: http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Aviation/ch701.htm -- Robert do not archive >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Laird" >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > > > > At 05:44 PM 2/24/2004, you wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" > > > > > >robert can you shrink the pics for us slow pokes? also says page cannot >be > > >displayed at noon I looked at 2 but now no way?? > > > > Sure, I'll shrink 'em! Give me a few hours and I'll give you a web page! > > > > -- Robert > > > > do not archive > > > > > > ------------------------- EZ Dock Texas Gulf Coast Office Phone: 281-752-9096 Cell Phone: 713-503-2949 Fax: 425-928-3369 Web : www.EZDockTexGulf.com EMail: robert@EZDockTexGulf.com Personal web pages: http://www.rlaird.net http://www.texas-flyer.com ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:03 PM PST US From: "CRAIG M NELSON" "Dana Kimball" , "Debbie Kimball" , "Gary Eisert" , "John Hauck" , "John Williamson" , "Julie Woolsey" , "Kim Skinner" , "kolbra pilot" , "Nicholas Nelson" , "Suzanne Gherkins" , "Jodi Page" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: Gas Prices --> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne Gherkins Subject: FW: Gas Prices -----Original Message----- From: Jim & Doris [mailto:martin33@cox.net] Subject: Fw: Gas Prices ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Irby Subject: FW: Gas Prices ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Subject: Gas Prices Gas Prices Amazingly simple logic with the most sound probability of results I've ever heard! This Doctor has his head on straight! More aspects of our economy are effected by the cost of petroleum than most anything. Simply think about what he's saying and I think you'll agree: Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us! By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost! of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 300) .. and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and ! pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am ... so trust me on this one.) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK. Kerry Lyle, Director, Research Coordinator Interventional Cardiology Research Laboratories Division of Cardiovascular Diseases 932 Ziegler Research Bldg 703 South 19th Street University of Alabama @ B'ham Birmingham, Al 35294-0007 Phone: (205) 934-6163 Fax: (205) 934-7360 Joe Ingram 519 NE 165th #18 Shoreline WA 98155 206-417-8061 206-579-2205 Wireless --- Jim Irby --- giftsbyjim@earthlink.net The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient you must not use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the message. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: Gas Prices From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Guys I wonder how this idea would impact medical costs?? Herb in Ky > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick > To: Undisclosed-Recipient: > Subject: Gas Prices > > > Gas Prices > > > Amazingly simple logic with the most sound probability of results > I've ever heard! This Doctor has his head on straight! More > aspects of our economy are effected by the cost of petroleum than > most anything. Simply think about what he's saying and I think > you'll agree: > > Join the resistance!!!! > > I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer. > Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some > intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good > idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a > certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The > oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't > continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. > It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for > them. > BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can > really work. > Please read it and join with us! > By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is > super cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in > my town. > Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us > to think that the cost! of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- > $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS > control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline > going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only > way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit > someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! > And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all > rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an > impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war. > Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY > gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON > and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined > to reduce their prices If they reduce their prices, the other > companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need > to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's > really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this > point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach > millions of people!! > I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send > it to at least ten more (30 x 10 300) .. and those 300 send it to > at least ten more (300 x 10 3,000)...and so on, by the time the > message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached > over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited > and ! pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will > have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed > it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! > Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. > (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you > have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you > just aren't a mathematician. > But I am ... so trust me on this one.) > How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out > to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people > could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet > you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting > together we can make a difference. > If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. > PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND > KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK. > Kerry Lyle, Director, Research Coordinator Interventional Cardiology > Research Laboratories Division of Cardiovascular Diseases > 932 Ziegler Research Bldg > 703 South 19th Street University of Alabama @ B'ham Birmingham, Al > 35294-0007 Phone: (205) 934-6163 Fax: (205) 934-7360 > Joe Ingram > 519 NE 165th #18 > Shoreline WA 98155 > 206-417-8061 > 206-579-2205 Wireless > > > --- Jim Irby > --- giftsbyjim@earthlink.net > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > individual or entity > to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) > are confidential and > may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended > recipient you must not > use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you > receive this e-mail in > error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and > destroy the message. > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:46 PM PST US From: "David & Maria Lumgair" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My New Project --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair" John, I am contacting you off list because I don't want to sound like I am advertising for ICP - I have flown the 701 and got hooked. The one I flew in had the 100 hp Rotax and the two of us - probably nearing 500 lbs in the plane, were off the ground in 90 ft. I was blown away! I only had a couple squaks with the 701. 1) it was very rudder intensive, rudder pressure seemed a necessity in all phases of flight. The owner explained that it was because of the "all flying" rudder, advantageous I'm sure when extreme authority is necessarry but not what I'm used to. I luke to fly with my feet on the floor more than not. 2) We did simulated engine out and the thing is merely a very controllable lawn dart. The glide is STEEP! Scared me a bit the first time. I seriously doubt the 10:1 glide ratio they advertise. Regardless, I had to have one, started saving the $ and kept enjoying the ultrastar and firestar - then a friend introduced me to the Savannah and now I have researched it and decieded it is for me. Basically the same plane - very similar performance. Apparently ICP was tooling up to make 701's for Heintz when something went bad with the deal. What sold me on the Savannah? 1) CNC Machined - all the holes are cut with a lazer - no deburring, and no cutting or fitting skins. Assembly time really is about 250 hours - I've spent more time than that on the ultrastar repairing wing ribs. 2) The kit is Complete! Every nut, bolt, hose, clamp, washer, engine gauge, everything!!! - in the crate! No waiting for months for part number %$#%! BOLT IT TOGETHER AND GO! 3) Performance - still slow and still a bit faster than the 701. Really does glide like a GA plane. And AHHHH ! Feet on the floor for cruise. I'm sold and now they have a new speed wing comming out after flight testing in March - I'm waiting on it - promises 115+ cruise with 100hp and only 1 mph increase in stall. I'm not saying the Zenith is a bad choice, I really like it, I just think there's mor bang for the buck with less headache. I helped a friend build a 601HDS and it seemed we always needed to order something we didn't have. And i can't tell you how many skins and all we had to redo because I am mathmatically challenged.... GOOD LUCK and congrats on getting the wife in on the hobby! Hats off to you. Dave Lumgair - VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: My New Project > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > Fellow Kolb enthusiasts, > > Times change and flying requirement also change. For some strange reason my > wife thinks I am having way to much fun flying by myself and wants to join > in. > > My new project is a Zenith S.T.O.L. CH 701. With the 912S on it, the wife > and I can go about anywhere we want to and still stay low and low. This > will also allow me to build out of metal which I have wanted to do for a > long time > > Bob B. guessed it right when he said "every thing you own is for sale for > the right price." > > The Kolbra is for sale. Details at: > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/2002_KOLB_KOLBRA.htm > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra: 518 hours, Rotax 912 ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:01 PM PST US From: "David & Maria Lumgair" Subject: Kolb-List: That was stupid - --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair" Sorry - thought I had clicked John's E-mail - hit reply to sender not thinking about how Matronics works - Hope all enjoyed.... Dave do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:09 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: Gas Prices --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." I puely love that disclaimer at the end!! Geez, what if someone got it by mistake? Get ur net cut off? Bob N. do not archive---or disclaim this condidential msg ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:50 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose & fishin --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 2/24/04 2:30:26 AM Central Standard Time, biglar@gogittum.com writes: << sometime, headin' for Lousy-ana and points east. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne >> Larry, If the seas cooperate when you are in my neck of the woods I dont see why not. Normally you have to check the wind & seas the evening before you go the next morning. I dont like to go out in more than 2 ft seas. No fun! I havent heard much on the state of vamoose. Im looking for a hanger in my area so I can finnish my Firefly. I have the land south of Houston where I am going to put in a grass strip. It just takes time & money. Regards, Ed (in Houston) Do Not Archive