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1. 07:14 AM - Re: Sun & Fun (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
2. 07:19 AM - Wheels (Jim Hauck)
3. 07:28 AM - Kolb Insurance (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
4. 08:06 AM - Re: Kolb Insurance (John Hauck)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Sun & Fun (John Hauck)
6. 08:25 AM - Plantation Flying Club Fly-In (Jimmy)
7. 09:00 AM - Kolb-List SUN$fUN (PaulServaty@aol.com)
8. 11:58 AM - Re: My New Project (Thom Riddle)
9. 01:33 PM - Re: Kolb Insurance (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
10. 03:26 PM - Re: Wheels (Don Gherardini)
11. 03:59 PM - Re: Wheels (bryan green)
12. 04:13 PM - Re: Wheels (Jim Hauck)
13. 05:43 PM - Re: Wheels (Denny Rowe)
14. 05:47 PM - Re: Wheels (Don Gherardini)
15. 06:45 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 02/24/04 (Vic)
16. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 02/24/04 (Robert Laird)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< Still undecided to pull or fly. john h >>
Do my eyes deceive me ??
John Hauck contemplating TRAILERING his plane somewhere, instead of flying
it?! Never heard of such a thing.
Next think you know, we'll be seeing a Training Hoop under Miss P'Fer's
nose! ;-)
Dennis Kirby
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Folks;
I have a set of Hagar wheels, brakes, master cylinders, lines, fittings, extra
"O" rings, no axles for sale.
The wheels are new, brakes are used.
Anyone interested, make a reasonable offer.
Jim Hauck
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< ASUA are the only group that I could find that will insure us
ultralight flyers. I just sent in my renewal membership and $375 annual
premium for insuring my Firestar. I would encourage other list members to
check it out. Dwight Kottke >>
Dwight, and Kolb Friends -
Wow - what a good deal!
That's worth paying $19 a year for, if just to qualify for the insurance.
Currenly, I am paying $650 per year with Falcon, and that's for liability
only. ($1M) No hull coverage.
Thanks for the tip.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, Verner-1400 in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Insurance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| That's worth paying $19 a year for, if just to qualify for the
insurance.
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| Currenly, I am paying $650 per year with Falcon, and that's for
liability
| only. ($1M) No hull coverage.
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| Dennis Kirby
Dennis/Gang:
Got to get some flight time, especailly in make and model, and tail
wheel to get those premiums down. I can get the same liability
coverage from Falcon for $300 a year, and AVEMCO for $250.
It is the darned hull coverage that eats me up. The premiums are
tough to pay. However, if you break your airplane, the coverage is
nice to have.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
flying
| it?! Never heard of such a thing.
Morning Dennis/All:
Guess I did not make myself clear, again. hehehe
I don't have an airplane trailer. I was referring to the 5th wheel
that hauls my bed, air conditioner, refrigerator, and sat TV.
I'm still up in the air whether to fly or not. Will make that
decision as we get closer to departure time.
After that little excursion, 1-30 July 2000, I have decided it is much
more fun to fly than to haul them.
Got a new 3 1/8" tach yesterday. Will try and get it installed so I
can finish up dialing in the 72" Warp Drive. First thing I will do is
put the prop tach on it to see if it is accurate or not. I don't
trust them to be accurate out of the box anymore.
Two months and counting for MV. Times a flying!!!
john h
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| Subject: | Plantation Flying Club Fly-In |
Kolb-List <kolb-list@matronics.com>, info@georgiasportflyers.com,
AUGUSTA_172 <eaa172@jcmservices.net>, BLAIRSVILLE-1211 <paulthom@attel.com>,
CARROLLTOM-976 <BarT@smipc.net>, COLUMBUS-677 <tgm007pi@knology.net>,
DAWSON-354 <mjmdvm@isoa.net>, DUBLIN-1195 <jeffhall@nlamerica.com>,
LAWRENCEVILLE-690 <daunehuff@yahoo.com>,
MOULTRIE-1082 <kadams@cc.colquitt12.ga.us>,
PERRY_38 <hamiltons-pxe@msn.com>, SPRINGFIELD_330 <wm2335@aol.com>,
ST SIMONS-905 <bruiserbig@aol.com>,
VIDALIA_1332 <brantleysmarine@cybersouth.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jimmy <jhankin@planters.net>
The Second Plantation Fly-in will be held on Saturday May 1, 2004 at the Plantation
Air Park (JYL) Sylvania, Georgia, sponsored by the Plantation Flying Club.
General Aviation and Ultralight's ( all types) welcome.
Starting at 8:00 am.
A Low Country Broil will be served, Pilots free lunch.
Full facilities:
Two runways
5 and 15, right traffic. 3800' X 75'
15 and 33, 5000' X 100'
Elevation 188'
Unicom 122.8
Beacon
Restrooms
Fuel, credit cards
Lat. 32*38.73'N
Lon 81*35.79'W
Weather, 912 857 9000
HAVE YOUR CLUB JOIN US FOR A GREAT TIME.
If you know of a group that is going to attend, please notify of about how many
will be attending.
Contact:
Jimmy Hankinson
912 863 7384
jhankin@planters.net
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| Subject: | Kolb-List SUN$fUN |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: PaulServaty@aol.com
Time:1030AM EST 2-26-04
From:Paul Servaty www.paulservaty@aol.com
Subject: Kolb-List Sun$fun
Hi Gang
I plan on going to Sun$Fun again trailing my Firestar KX & camping 6
days at Paradise City (3rd time). Flying at Paradise City is a lot of fun and
worth it. First year 1st take-off I was chewed out after landing for too high a
angle for take-off. Good start.
Last year I flew all the morning parades except one. This is really fun
as you can fly over GA & the warbirds at600
feet.Briefing is 6:00AM & flying is 7:00AM to 8:Am & two mornings my Kolb
was covered with morning dew . Wiping the inside & outside lexon while taxing
for takeoff was a challenge and when you got the wave-off you could barely see
out.
The last day there Dick Rahill (Kolb factory pilot) a trike and myself
were the only UL to fly in the parade. A fog bank was moving toward PC. Dick
made a landing but then took off . I landed behind him and took-off too. Big
mistake ! The fog moved in .Tried climbing to 600 feet. Worse. Went down to 200
feet. Recognized some GA hangers and saw a green glow near-by. It was the
neon sign on the Geico bldg. Flew to it and was going to land at the empty
parking lot but the fog lifted temporarily & landed at Pc. Told the Kolb twin
eng.
flyer about it and he said I should walk away from my plane like it wasn't
mine which I did for a half hour. As I said lots of fun. HA-HA-HA. Sorry to be
long winded .
FLY STRAIGHT
Paul 1987 FS
DO NOT ARCHIEVE
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| Subject: | Re: My New Project |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Finally a subject that I can speak about with some authority.
My first airplane after retiring and not flying for 30+ years was a 582 powered
701, but I was not the builder. Mine weighed 608 lb.. empty and had an external
torpedo shaped 10 gallon tank in addition to the 10 gallon header tank, because
my 582 was a guzzler, and it also had a largish radiator that added to the
aerodynamic dirtiness. They now have wing tanks. The gross weight of this early
model was only 960# so with my 210# and 120# of fuel it was just under gross
which was the way I flew it most of the time. I don't know how much distance
it took to get off the ground but no matter what the temperature it took exactly
4 seconds from throttle forward to airborne and very nose high. With a 912
or 912S its take-off performance will be amazing. The worst thing about this
aircraft to me was what others have said, the engine is on the wrong end and
blocks your view way too much for my liking. The best thing about it was the Junker
type flaperons. With these Junker flaperons this airplane easily has the
best slow flight control response of anything I've ever flown, but it will not
fly nearly as slow as most Kolbs at the same weight due to its smaller wing.
However, if you are flying very slow and want to see ahead of you too, drop one
notch of flaps. That will pitch the nose down enough to see a bit better.
This is a very dirty airplane with the leading edge fixed slats and the Junker
type flaperons hanging down in the wind. Mine was a bit dirtier than most due
to the extra 10 gallon fuel tank. I cruised at 5900rpm at a true airspeed of 72mph
and 6 gph fuel consumption, measured on some reasonably long x-countries.
Of course a 912 will do better on all counts. Speaking of dirty, another terrific
thing about this airplane was the ability to drop it into a very tight field
over a high obstacle approach. For extreme short field high obstacle landings
you approach at 55mph or so drop the flaps all the way down, and point the
nose as far down as you can. It drops like a rock under full control and has
a terminal velocity in this configuration of around 70mph or so, which I think
is the flap limit speed. Of course in this scenario, timing the flare is very
important but with practice it lands extremely short.
Okay, if it was so good, why did I sell it? The answer is simple: I like to see
where I am going and with the engine directly in front of you, well all Kolbers
understand this. I flew a FlightStar trainer once with the engine up high in
front which solves that problem but hated the way that plane handled. BTW, the
82 year old gentleman I sold the 701 to, immediately replaced the engine with
a 912 and is having a blast with it, last I heard.
I have some pictures of this 701 if anyone wants to see them...just email me.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Insurance |
02/26/2004 03:30:54 PM,
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com
Wow - what a good deal!
That's worth paying $19 a year for, if just to qualify for the insurance.
Currenly, I am paying $650 per year with Falcon, and that's for liability
only. ($1M) No hull coverage.
Dennis, John H., and others:
I copied and pasted the $19 from a message from John H.. Todays
membership with USUA is $25/year. You also have to register with USAU as
an ultralight pilot which also costs $25. Please go to USUA's web site to
get all the correct information and seriously consider picking up this
insurance (all list members). Because in this day and age everyone is
suing everyone with the help of a some of lawyers who are slicker than
snot on a brass door knob.
The Flying Farmer
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Jim H
What size are the wheels?
also.as granpa would always say..
.its your horse pard...you gotta price it!
Don Gherardini
Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Back away from them tar brakes Hoss and keep your hands where I can see um
:~) DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wheels
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Jim H
>
> What size are the wheels?
>
> also.as granpa would always say..
>
> .its your horse pard...you gotta price it!
>
> Don Gherardini
> Sales / Engineering dept.
> American Honda Engines
> Power Equipment Company
> CortLand, Illinois
> 800-626-7326
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Y'all;
Dem wheels and brakes done been sold to Bryan Green.
He was firstus t askus.
Now bro John has a set of wheels, steel heat treated gear legs, brakes and
the whole nine yards. He may be persuaded to part with them.
Jim Hauck
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Now bro John has a set of wheels, steel heat treated gear legs, brakes and
> the whole nine yards. He may be persuaded to part with them.
>
> Jim Hauck
>
>
>OK, what are they for? Stock Mk-3?, What type of wheels and brakes?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
OK Greenski...
Ya beat me to da draw on dat one pard....but keep a keen watch out..I'll
wont be lettin no south carolina polecat get the jump on me agin!
Nosiree!
Pretty good shootin fer a reb...
LOL... :)
do not archive....
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 02/24/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
I too registered my aircraft with USUA and even though I have an FAA Pilot
Certificate I also am a USUA Registered Ultralight Pilot. I guess there is
the risk of letting the FAA know that I am out here but I believe that in
order for USUA to represent us, they need all of us to sign up so they have
some clout. I also have membership with EAA, mostly so I can participate
with the local EAA ultralight club.
I once was a Spam can flyer but because of a zipper in my chest, I
discovered ultralights. With or with-out the zipper I think I would have
wound up with an ultralight simply because the FAA was nickel-diming me out
of my GA airplane. A GA friend of mine recently did his annual to the tune
of $2.600. His insurance is $3600 this year. My annual was $2.50 for the
switch I replaced and my USUA insurance is $365. I know he is not having as
much fun as me because I fly two to three times a week. He only flies a
couple of times a month.
If you haven't registered you aircraft or registered as a pilot with your
favorite association, I encourage you to do so because I believe that sooner
or later the FAA is going to make all of us play their game. I think that
when this happens registered pilots and registered aircraft will have an leg
up on the rest. What do the rest of you think
Flame away
Vic
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 02/24/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 08:44 PM 2/26/2004, you wrote:
>If you haven't registered you aircraft or registered as a pilot with your
>favorite association, I encourage you to do so because I believe that sooner
>or later the FAA is going to make all of us play their game. I think that
>when this happens registered pilots and registered aircraft will have an leg
>up on the rest. What do the rest of you think
As much as people grouse about SP/LSA, as much as I think it could have
been handled better, I think you've hit the nail on the head, and that's
simply the way it's going to be. There will always be the "outlaws" and if
they stay away from fly-ins and any hard-topped runways, chances are pretty
good they'll get away with being an outlaw for years and years. But I
believe the large majority of UL flyers would RATHER be legal, if it's
feasible in the least, if it's not tooooo painful.
But I think you're dead on target with your comments, Vic.
-- Robert
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