Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:29 AM - Web Sites (Mike Pierzina)
2. 07:33 AM - Re: Web Sites (Larry Bourne)
3. 07:54 AM - Re: Web Sites (Don Gherardini)
4. 08:08 AM - Re: progress (Don Gherardini)
5. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: Web Sites (William George)
6. 09:16 AM - Re: progress (John Hauck)
7. 09:25 AM - Tail wheel ? (Jo and Larry)
8. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: Web Sites (Larry Bourne)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: weight/balance question (ActionCrane@aol.com)
10. 10:35 AM - Another tailwheel question (Fackler, Ken)
11. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: weight/balance question (Thom Riddle)
12. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Re: weight/balance question (John Hauck)
13. 03:01 PM - Re: Tail wheel ? (Joe Allman)
14. 03:35 PM - Re: Tail wheel ? (Mhqqqqq@aol.com)
15. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Re: weight/balance question (Don Gherardini)
16. 04:26 PM - Re: Tail wheel ? (Steven Green)
17. 04:43 PM - Weight & Balance (Lloyd McFarlane)
18. 04:45 PM - heavy tail (Bob Bean)
19. 05:41 PM - Re: heavy tail (John Hauck)
20. 07:53 PM - Re: heavy tail (Richard Pike)
21. 07:56 PM - Re: Re: Re: weight/balance question (ZackGSD@aol.com)
22. 08:58 PM - A Few Ancient Pics (John Hauck)
23. 11:51 PM - Firestar II wing tail vs.Orig. Firestar wing tail (momweyland)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Big Lar/all,
They could DOUBLE the price of my web site, and it would still
be FREE...
and I have close to 200 pictures in it & growing...
( it's 37 pages )
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>
Web Sites
I re-named this for the new subject.
Two thoughts, 1 for Mike: I
don't know how GeoCities is setup, but with my provider (Homestead) I'm allowed
X number of separate websites for a given fee.
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
do not archive
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My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, my Homestead was free for the 1st few years I had it, too, and had an
advertising band across the bottom. Then, for a small fee, ($20.00/yr ??)
you could drop the advertising. The next year it was much higher, and last
year it was close to a 100 bucks. A friend went to sign up a few weeks ago,
and they wanted nearly $200.00. I'm starting to look at alternatives now,
but I've been told that all my stuff is in Homestead's something or other,
and will be hard for another server to handle. I dunno...........more
research, I guess. I want to back it up somehow, too, cause it'd be a
shame if their equipment crashed, or something, and all my pages got lost.
There's a tremendous amount of work involved in all that stuff.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Web Sites
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hey Big Lar/all,
> They could DOUBLE the price of my web site, and it would
still be FREE...
> and I have close to 200 pictures in it & growing...
> ( it's 37 pages )
>
> SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>
> Web Sites
> I re-named this for the new subject.
> Two thoughts, 1 for Mike: I
> don't know how GeoCities is setup, but with my provider (Homestead) I'm
allowed X number of separate websites for a given fee.
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
> do not archive
>
>
> ---
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap
> and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Larry,
Go to geocities and check it out..I have had a geocities website for 5
years...still free...and on one.I have at least 50 or 60 pics...pretty good
outfit,
they have several very neat statistics pages too for you, showing how many
hits,...what browser the viewers are using,,,where the links come from...
Daily..weekly..monthly hit count statistics...and per page..so you can see
that many..or most of the views are on the first page...and less everypage
downline...jeez.I cant tell ya what all they have.
You can use FTP for file transfer...or their own website builder program...
I have never ever come close to using the alloted space...and even if you
did...you could just start another account... today...I have 4 completely
different websites there...so I know you can have more than one account if
you want. No charges.
I for one would hate to not be able to go to your pages and gander at all
your pics everyonce in awhile!....but for 100 bucks...I wouldnt consider
keeping any kind of website myself either! And I would not blame you if ya
let em go....Jeez...thats 100 bucks a year on airplane stuff!!!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Paul, and gang...
Yes Paul, I assure you, that everyday that passes, we are one day closer to
the end of Mass-produced 2 cycle engines in our world.
Here's a prediction for you....some fellas who are just starting to build
airplans today...will not have a mass-produced 2 cycle available by the time
thety get their bird finished...thats how close we are.
There will likely be low-volume..(read that as VERY expensive) engines to
buy...as the trend for that is obviously upon us now, and has been for
awhile...but the end of 2 cycles for the engine market other than little
airplanes is acknowledged by ALL manufacturers.
Last summer, at the Farm Progress show in the midwest.. Bombardier had a
recreational products booth there. I spoke with a Bombardier rep and he told
me that they have had notice already that there will be no 2 strokes on any
of their ATVs.and PWC;s by the 2006 model year....
He then said..and I quote.." The 2 cycle engine plant will be shut down
shortly afterwards"
Now...Bear in mind...I am not sure just how much he knew for certain..and
that was about a month or so before the sale of the Rec Division...So things
might have changed also...
Consider this..If you were on the board of Directors...and all your market
studies told you the large part of your market was demanding clean buring 4
strokes...and many places are actually BANNING your products from use there
if they are powered by 2 strokes....
Your repsonsibilitys to the stockholders are to keep stick prices up.....
Your company is now under a tremendous "New" debt load from a new ownership
buy-out.....
Your board meetings largely consist of conversations about.." reducing
expenses and increasing effieciency "...and cutting out all the fat.....
What would be the vote you would cast?
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
Big Lar is right. I visit DP Review daily. I use the Canon 10D, Pro
Digital talk, Epson talk and Mac Tools forums. That covers my equipment
and interests. To put up your photos try PBase or Photo.net. They let
you put up quite a few for no charge or you can get lots of capacity
for a small fee, $24 per year for my PBase account. It's easy to
upload, edit and delete files.
Here's my PBase: http://www.pbase.com/wgeorge
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
On Feb 28, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
> Time: 08:09:02 PM PST US
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Web Sites
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> I re-named this for the new subject. Two thoughts, 1 for Mike:
> I
> don't know how GeoCities is setup, but with my provider (Homestead) I'm
> allowed X number of separate websites for a given fee. (BTW, they're
> about
> to lose me, cause the fees are increasing dramatically, year by year,
> and
> now they've gotten TOO greedy) What I've done is create 2 websites for
> temporary pics only, 1 of which (flyingpics.com) I haven't used much
> yet,
> and the other (tempics.com) which I've used quite a bit on another
> forum.
> It makes it simple - you publish the picture and whatever explanation
> you
> want, when you want it, and for as long as you want it. Works good !
> ! !
> 2nd thought, for Matt Dralle: The other forum that I'm active on (and
> where
> I use the tempics.com a lot) is the DPReview's Nikon Digital Camera
> Forum.
> (www.dpreview.com/forums , and scroll down to Nikon Talk) It is truly
> international, and I've had dialog recently with people from Malaysia
> to the
> Sudan; Norway to Australia. What Fun ! ! !................but what I
> REALLY like about it is that in a message you can enter a .jpg link to
> a
> picture, (such as:
> http://www.tempics.homestead.com/files/J_Cr_Take_Off_2C.JPG ) and
> it'll
> open automatically with the message on the forum. I don't know if it's
> financially feasible for Matt, but it sure is a nice feature. It's a
> VERY
> active forum, too. Lar. Do not
> Archive.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
closer to
| the end of Mass-produced 2 cycle engines in our world.
Don G/All:
Eric Tucker passed on to us lowly students at Lucedale, MS, Rotax has
4 stroke watercraft engines now. Just a matter of time.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
A couple of tail wheels questions please. 1. Could someone recommend a
replacement for the factory wheel and 2. Does anyone have experience using a
full swiveling tail wheel with the Kolb? How does it work? I guess that was
3 , huh? :)
Thanks in advance,
Larry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Very nice pics, Bill. I like the colors on that pheasant, #2715. I
haven't been to Hawaii in over 30 years, and never saw that side of it.
Sure would like to..........someday. (but the big diesel Dodge draws the
line at the Pacific Ocean) :-) Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "William George" <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Kolb-List: Web Sites
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: William George
<wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
>
> Big Lar is right. I visit DP Review daily. I use the Canon 10D, Pro
> Digital talk, Epson talk and Mac Tools forums. That covers my equipment
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| Subject: | Re: re: weight/balance question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ActionCrane@aol.com
Alan,
Doesn't 31" seem like you would be really tail heavy? We did the weight
balance thing just yesterday on our Firestar KX and our farthest back CG was
with my wife @ 145 lb and 11.5 gal gas, we were at 33.8 % . Best case was me @
170 lb and no fuel we had 30.2%. I think I would like it to be a little
farther forward but not at the expense of adding dead weight. It flies really well
like it is. My wife is going to start flying this plane maybe as early as this
afternoon. We did the W B thing to make sure it would be safe with her light
weight. Sure don't need any spins happening!
Steve H
Firestar/377
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| Subject: | Another tailwheel question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Can anyone recommend a source for a replacement of the tailwheel on the Mark
II?
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: re: weight/balance question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Steve H,
If I am right in the middle of the CG range, and I don't doubt it based on flight
characteristics, then why is it so easy for me to nose over? In some wet field
situations, I have to get out, lift the tail and push the plane to a less
mushy area or I can't even taxi. If I am right in the middle of the CG range,
then it would appear to me that a weight situation that put the CG near the forward
limit, would also put the aircraft on it nose when sitting still on the
ground. This aircraft really needs longer main gear legs and/or more forward location
of the mains.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: re: weight/balance question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
This aircraft really needs longer main gear legs and/or more forward
location of the mains.
|
| Thom in Buffalo
Thom/Gang:
Wonder why John H put 35.5" gear legs on his Firestar in 1987, and
moved the main gear forward on his MKIII in 1991?
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Joe Allman" <fisherallman@earthlink.net>
Larry and all,
We use a full swivel on both a Slingshot and a Mark III Xtra.
If my memory serves me I think they came from Matco.
Setup works great on both.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jo and Larry
Subject: Kolb-List: Tail wheel ?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
A couple of tail wheels questions please. 1. Could someone recommend a
replacement for the factory wheel and 2. Does anyone have experience using a
full swiveling tail wheel with the Kolb? How does it work? I guess that was
3 , huh? :)
Thanks in advance,
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
I went to true value hardware and got a wheel for a riding mower deck. it is
tough and light weight. cost is about 3 bucks. it is wider than the factory
wheel and leaves less of a mark in the grass (the place I fly from the owner
did not like the track the
narrow wheel left.)
mark
twinstar
minnesota
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| Subject: | Re: re: weight/balance question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Thom,
Snip>>>>then why is it so easy for me to nose over? In some wet field
situations, .......>>>>Snip
Your Cg is in relation to the overall balance of the plane Thom...not in
relation to the wheels...the safe cg range(envelope) is determined by the
wings center of lift..control suface influence/effectivness ..but where the
wheels are have nothing to do with an engineer decideing what the fore an
aft CG safe range is.
You know however, that your airplane will nose over easily....that is
because the wheels are very near the CG....think of it as balanced on a
perch...a Kolbs wheels are so close to the cg it makes it kinda
"tippy"...you dont want to change your CG..because as you said...your
airplane flys well.
You mentioned the solution..change the Wheels in relation to the cg. I cant
think of why this would be a bad thing...and about all I can think of is a
fella might need a sturdier tailwheel and strut back there...
Raiseing the airplane with longer legs would also make it harder to get
into.
Now...If you decide to do this..I would consider that just moving the wheels
forward would make the plane less "tippy"...and
Lengthening the gear would do this yes..because they will move forward along
that angle of the gear....but it also would change the angle of attack of
the wing on take off roll...and this might lengthen your take off roll...due
to the lower power engine...If you had a big engine...then it probably would
not matter...
John H explained to me one time his gear mods on his different planes...and
how they effected them. And it made alot of sense once he made me
understand...I didnt consider there were 2 things to think about.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
A couple of tail wheels questions please. 1. Could someone recommend a
replacement for the factory wheel and 2. Does anyone have experience using a
full swiveling tail wheel with the Kolb? How does it work? I guess that was
3 , huh? :)
Thanks in advance,
Larry
Larry,
Give TNK a call. Full swivel tail wheel is standard for the mark IIIs and
maybe some other models.
Steven
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| Subject: | Weight & Balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Lloyd McFarlane" <lrmcf@ix.netcom.com>
Alan, I have a 1999/2000 FireStar II which gives both % and inches based on an
average chord of 64". CG to be between 20%12.8" and 35%22.4". My dry weight with
503 DC/DI, brakes and chute is 418 lbs. Lots of paint! I had to put my battery
in the nose cone to stay in ahead of the aft CG limit. If your model is
anything like mine and your 31" is correct, looks like you have a real problem
with a tail heavy aircraft.
Lloyd McFarlane
Fullerton, CA
I have been using the following formular to do the CG on my older )95) Kolb
- 12.8 - 23.7 inches; which is off the plans from a friend of mine's 97
Firestar 11. His also calls for a 9 degree angle. Thom sent me an old W & B sheet
for the early 90's Kolb and it says to use what you are recomending - 20 -
37%. My Kolb CG comes in at around 31" aft of the leading edge. Can some one
please explain why the older Kolbs W $ B sheets use a %; while the newer ones
gives it to you in inches. If my older Kolb comes in at 31 inches aft of the
leading edge, is that within the allowable limits, it would appear so?
Alan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Consider me in the group who want a little taller main gear leg on
my MkIII. -although I want an easy way out without cutting my
virgin fresh fabric and paint. There's BigLar's innovative convoluted
twisty legs (make me a set Lar) or just longer legs which would
make the wheels go into the next county. I like the slingshot legs
although it looks like they might put a little twisting moment on the
sockets. The reason the Kolb doesn't exhibit any groundloop
tendencies is the same reason they nose over easy. A little taller
leg will give just the right feel. -BB do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Consider me in the group who want a little taller main gear leg on
| my MkIII. -BB
Hi Bob/Gang:
The angle is too flat for long legs on the MK III.
On the Original Firestar, the angle was just right for 35.5" legs
shoved all the way in the socket until it bottomed out. Forget how
much leg was sticking out of the socket, but I can go downstairs and
measure my last set of legs from my old FS.
OK, had 24" of leg sticking out and 11.5" inside the socket.
Put the Original FS in a perfect, for me, 3 pt stance for landing and
taking off. Helped slow me down landing on my short strip without
brakes (not installed). Wanted to land 3 pt, and it did do nice ones,
stalling right on the money a few inches off the sod.
Did not change ground handling, that I could tell.
The MK III was a different story. Having become accustomed to flying
the old Factory MKIII, my new MK III and displaced main gear proved to
be quite exciting until I became accustomed to them. There are still
times my gear tend to get the interest factor going. She will ground
loop, if you get behind her. With about 100 lbs on the tail wheel,
that is a lot of weight way back there on the end of the tail boom.
When it starts to swing and you haven't already done something about
it, it is too late.
With the new mounts and mount location on the MK III, the gear legs
overall length is 24". They are made of the same size material that
was used on the Fire Star (Original).
Without good differential braking, my airplane would not be a fun
airplane to fly. Is that characteristic worse than the tendancy to
get up on its nose without much provocation? Heck no. I had much
rather have "a real tail dragger" than have one that had to have a
training wheel under the nose. Just kidding about the training wheel
guys. Still don't want one on my airplane. To me, it is an
advertisement that my airplane is prone to stand on its nose. I
needed an airplane that would get me in and out of rough, tough, soft,
sloppy stuff without going up on its nose and possibly on its back.
Again, I emphasize, that is the kind of airplane I need and that is
the way I have mine configured. It has proven it can do the job.
The above is what I did to my airplane to make it suit me better. I
am not advertising, encouraging, recommending, or otherwise, that
anyone else do the same thing to their airplane.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Some of us have a totally different problem.
Since the Good Lookin' Old Poop is built for comfort and not speed,
and is kinda' on the short side, it's all she can do get in and out of the
MKIII as it is.
If I made the gear legs any longer, I'd have to figure out how to stow
a step stool in the airplane along with everything else...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 07:41 PM 2/29/04 -0600, you wrote:
> Consider me in the group who want a little taller main gear leg on
> my MkIII. -BB
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| Subject: | Re: re: weight/balance question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ZackGSD@aol.com
> Subj: Re: Kolb-List: Re: re: weight/balance question
> Date: 2/29/2004 6:09:56 PM Central Standard Time
> From: donghe@one-eleven.net
> Reply-to: kolb-list@matronics.com
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Thom/John and guys,
First, thanks to all of you who offered up all the advice to the newbie here;
it was greatly appreciated. I went back out today & went through all the
math again & found I had added my weight in as a positve & not a negative. After
i corrected that, I came in at 36%; which is right in under the allowable 37%
on the older Kolbs. I only weigh 148 lbs. But, the way I understand it,
when my rear stock 5 gal tank gets lower, the CG will begin to move forward and
help some. Any thoughts on leaving it as is; or adding a 1 inch steel plate to
fit under my feet where the floor is now? that would add about 8 lbs.
Alan
95 Firestar 1
N. Richland Hills, TX
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Thom,
>
> Snip>>>>then why is it so easy for me to nose over? In some wet field
> situations, .......>>>>Snip
>
> Your Cg is in relation to the overall balance of the plane Thom...not in
> relation to the wheels...the safe cg range(envelope) is determined by the
> wings center of lift..control suface influence/effectivness ..but where the
> wheels are have nothing to do with an engineer decideing what the fore an
> aft CG safe range is.
> You know however, that your airplane will nose over easily....that is
> because the wheels are very near the CG....think of it as balanced on a
> perch...a Kolbs wheels are so close to the cg it makes it kinda
> "tippy"...you dont want to change your CG..because as you said...your
> airplane flys well.
>
> You mentioned the solution..change the Wheels in relation to the cg. I cant
> think of why this would be a bad thing...and about all I can think of is a
> fella might need a sturdier tailwheel and strut back there...
>
> Raiseing the airplane with longer legs would also make it harder to get
> into.
>
> Now...If you decide to do this..I would consider that just moving the wheels
> forward would make the plane less "tippy"...and
> Lengthening the gear would do this yes..because they will move forward along
> that angle of the gear....but it also would change the angle of attack of
> the wing on take off roll...and this might lengthen your take off roll...due
> to the lower power engine...If you had a big engine...then it probably would
> not matter...
> John H explained to me one time his gear mods on his different planes...and
> how they effected them. And it made alot of sense once he made me
> understand...I didnt consider there were 2 things to think about.
>
> Don Gherardini
> FireFly 098
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | A Few Ancient Pics |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
Speaking of ancient times in ultralighting doesn't require going too
far back in time. How about 1989.
This is a picture of Cuz'n P'fer at Hat Box Airport, Muscogee, OK. We
had just had the awards dinner and ole Cuz'n P'fer did pretty good for
him self. We picked up three awards:
1. Grand Champion Ultralight
2. Best Tube and Fabric Homebuilt: This really surprised me, as well
as most of the other folks that flew homebuilts into Hat Box. Jim
Younkin (built Mr Mulligan, Mystery Ship, Samson or may have been
Goliath, and many other facinating replicas and experimentals) was
Chief Judge. He took a liking to Cuz'n P'fer. Got to spend a lot of
time with Jim that weekend. When asked by some why he chose "that
ultralight" as the best tube and fabric homebuilt? Jim replied,
"Because it was the best." Wow! Got my attention.
3. Cuz'n P'fer got an award, not for the furtherest flight to the
flyin, but the flight of the longest duration. Took us 12 flight
hours to fly from Gantt International Airport to Hat Box, Muscogee,
OK.
Notice the long gear legs, 4130, bottom center fabric brace,
instrument panel pulled back to the pilot's station, deflector on
windshield pushed the air over the wind and out of the pilot's face.
The curved fabric braces at the bottom rear of the cockpit are also
Jim Hauck's design. New Hegar wheels and brakes.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/History/Hat%20Box%201989-1.jpg
I will sell the Hegar wheels, brakes, dual/differential master
cylinders, 35.5" gear legs, if someone is interested and we can agree
on a price. Last operation with these wheels, brakes, and gear legs,
was a take off. This equipment was not used for Cuz'n P'fer's last
landing. They never touched the ground.
This next picture was taken at the UL airstrip, Oshkosh, WI, 1989.
Please notice the picture was taken through Cuz'n P'fer's windshield.
We had just landed, spun around to take the picture of Dick Rahill
just prior to crashing and totaling the 1985 Oshkosh Grand Champion
Ultralight, Homer Kolb's Firestar. Dick and I had been playing a
little game around the UL trafffic pattern. Follow the leader. The
pattern, that year, called for a hard right turn to final just prior
to touch down. With the wind blowing the way it was that afternoon,
think it was a quartering right tailwind, made for some very
interesting technique to get the airplane around the turn quick, down
on the sod, short turn off, and ready to take off again. Dick has the
nose down, right wing down, hard left aileron, and is stalling it
right into the ground. I had remembered this event, but had forgotten
I had a picture of it until I found it in the bottom drawer of all UL
pictures of the past.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/History/OSH%201989-1.jpg
Homer Kolb has recently restored the 1985 FS, installed a 503, done
some experimenting, and flying of this old bird. Back in the days of
bartering for my FS, Homer would not sell me a 447 for it. I had to
buy with 377, then horse trade Gerry Olenik for a 447. that was my
first business dealing with Gerry in 1986.
Some of you all will enjoy these old pics. Some won't. If you have
doubts, hit the delete button before you take a peek at my index page.
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Firestar II wing tail vs.Orig. Firestar wing tail |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "momweyland" <momweyland@cox.net>
Hi,I'm new to this list,but will admit that I've been lurking in these shadows
of Kolb Knowledge for a couple of months now.Thanks for the wealth of information
I've already harvested.I need to know if a Firestar II wing and tail kit is
compatible with the 91 KXP fuselage cage? Thanks,Hank Weyland
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