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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 03/01/04 (Doug Lawton)
2. 04:56 AM - Contact in Tampa (Dale Sellers)
3. 05:07 AM - Re: BMW - R100 (Hans vanAlphen)
4. 05:52 AM - Light weight enclosed aluminum trailers (Wayne F.Wilson)
5. 07:22 AM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:26 AM - MK III Extra and UltralightFlying Magazine (John Cooley)
7. 08:25 AM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (bryan green)
8. 08:28 AM - stick (bryan green)
9. 08:51 AM - Re: Light weight enclosed aluminum trailers (KolbTwinstar@aol.com)
10. 09:01 AM - Enclosed trailers for Kolbs (johnjung@compusenior.com)
11. 11:07 AM - Rotax 912 Voltage Regulator (John Cooley)
12. 01:56 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Voltage Regulator (John Hauck)
13. 02:11 PM - spark plugs (Paul Petty)
14. 02:29 PM - Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Kirk Smith)
15. 02:38 PM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (John Hauck)
16. 03:05 PM - Re: spark plugs (bryan green)
17. 03:37 PM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Kirk Smith)
18. 03:58 PM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Paul Petty)
19. 04:05 PM - Rotax 503 value (Fackler, Ken)
20. 04:11 PM - Re: spark plugs (Paul Petty)
21. 04:29 PM - Re: Rotax 503 value (flykolb)
22. 04:29 PM - Ring Free Fuel Additive (Vic)
23. 04:31 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (Larry Bourne)
24. 04:35 PM - Re: stick (Larry Bourne)
25. 04:38 PM - spark plugs (bryan green)
26. 04:42 PM - Spark plugs (bryan green)
27. 04:47 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (ronnie wehba)
28. 04:49 PM - Re: stick (bryan green)
29. 04:49 PM - Re: spark plugs (Paul Petty)
30. 04:52 PM - Re: spark plugs (Steven Green)
31. 04:53 PM - Re: Rotax 503 value (Fackler, Ken)
32. 04:57 PM - Re: Rotax 503 value (Fackler, Ken)
33. 05:01 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (bryan green)
34. 05:29 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (ronnie wehba)
35. 05:54 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (bryan green)
36. 06:08 PM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Duncan McBride)
37. 06:20 PM - plugs (Paul Petty)
38. 06:23 PM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (WillUribe@aol.com)
39. 06:23 PM - corection (Paul Petty)
40. 06:40 PM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (John Williamson)
41. 06:50 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (John Hauck)
42. 07:06 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (Robert Laird)
43. 07:12 PM - UL Flying Magazine (Clay Stuart)
44. 07:33 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (Larry Bourne)
45. 07:37 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (Larry Bourne)
46. 08:07 PM - Defense of the lightweight trailer (H MITCHELL)
47. 08:17 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (Bob Dalton)
48. 08:21 PM - Re: FireFly with enclosed trailer for sale. (garvelink)
49. 09:06 PM - Final Flight Firestar 1990 (John Hauck)
50. 09:31 PM - Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 (Bob N.)
51. 10:52 PM - Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 (Larry Bourne)
52. 11:41 PM - Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 (possums)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 03/01/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Don,
Of course, if you want "new axles" Northern tool has a good selection and
you'll find some of them here:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&TEST=Y&categoryId=166843
They also have fenders, springs, hardware and other additional parts &
pieces that you'll need. They don't seem to be too expensive.
Fly Safely,
Doug Lawton
NE Georgia & Whitwell TN
Don wrote:
need to find a couple of matching axles...hmm....
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
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| Subject: | Contact in Tampa |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Dear fellow Kolbers,
I am in dire need of having a contact in the Tampa area. If any of you live in
that area or know someone who would be willing to have me contact them, please
email me off list. This has to do with my health and receiving treatment in
that area.
Thank you very much.
Dale Sellers
Georgia Ultrastar
dsel1@bellsouth.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Hans vanAlphen" <hva@bellsouth.net>
Terry,
My all up weight for the BMW R100 is 148 lb., maybe a little too heavy for
your FS2.
Hans van Alphen
Kolb Mark III Xtra.
BMW R100 122 hours.
> From: "Terry Davis" <davistcs@eoni.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: BMW R 100
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry Davis" <davistcs@eoni.com>
>
> Kolb/BMW enthusiasts,
>
> Could any of you tell me what the all up weight of the BMW and C box
is? I've
> looked at the various sites and haven't found that info. Could a FS2 stay
> in CG with one? All this talk about disappearing 503's makes me nervous.
Hate
> to buy an orphan. Terry Davis FS2 Working on instruments.
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Light weight enclosed aluminum trailers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" <wfwilson1@yahoo.ca>
I noticed Don's recent search for enclosed trailers.
Anyone who wants to see some nice ones go to
www.eandj.on.ca They have nice customs build light
weight aluminium trailers. I was impressed when I saw
them.
Good Luck
Wayne F Wilson
Slingshot 009
wfwilson1@yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Huh ! ! !..............thank you, Jon........you jogged my alleged brain a
bit. I don't have plans for it, but my trailer was built by John Wood for a
FireStar, and is light, strong, and tows well. Several pictures of it at
http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html . If you like, more pics are
easily taken and published. Let me know. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
> On the front page of www.KolbPilot.com is a pic of my Firestar
> trailer...its custom built by another builder but is really light and well
> constructed.... just some more ideas for your trailer search!
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini"
<donghe@one-eleven.net>
> >
> > Dennis,
> > Any place you know of where there are pics or drawings or any info on
the
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | MK III Extra and UltralightFlying Magazine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Morning Kolbers,
Just got my new edition of UltralightFlying magazine and was pleased to
see some Kolb stuff reviewed. Dan Johnson has a real nice report on the
MK III Extra. All of you Extra owners should read it if you get the
chance. Several good comments about Kolb airplanes and the Kolb company
are in the article too.
I also remember some talk a while back about a fly-in at the "Thumb". I
suppose that is the same fly-in that is covered in the same issue
mentioned above. I can see two Kolb Twinstar MK II's in the photo's. One
of them appears to be the list's Ken Fackler. Not sure who the other one
is. Looks like it was a lot of fun. Good job
Do not archive
Later,
John Cooley
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hey Lar it said the link does not exist. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Huh ! ! !..............thank you, Jon........you jogged my alleged brain a
> bit. I don't have plans for it, but my trailer was built by John Wood for
a
> FireStar, and is light, strong, and tows well. Several pictures of it at
> http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html . If you like, more pics
are
> easily taken and published. Let me know. Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
> >
> > On the front page of www.KolbPilot.com is a pic of my Firestar
> > trailer...its custom built by another builder but is really light and
well
> > constructed.... just some more ideas for your trailer search!
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini"
> <donghe@one-eleven.net>
> > >
> > > Dennis,
> > > Any place you know of where there are pics or drawings or any info on
> the
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Can anyone see a problem with me shorting the control stick a couple inches on
my plane?
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
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| Subject: | Re: Light weight enclosed aluminum trailers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: KolbTwinstar@aol.com
I have a 24ft. enclosed timberwolf trailer I'll sell for $4250.00
Tracy
Phone#314-258-1061
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| Subject: | Enclosed trailers for Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
To those interested in trailers,
Here are a few of my thoughts on enclosed trailers to carry your Kolb:
Light is not always better. Even light trailers are not easy to tow,
when they are over 20' long and over 6' high. Plus light trailers are
easily turned over by the wind. If you Kolb happens to be stored in the
trailer when it is turned over, it is likely to be damaged. In my
opinion a light trailer may very well need to be tied down when stored.
Heavy trailers on torsion axles can give the plane a softer ride than a
light trailer on any kind of axle.
My enclosed trailer is heavy (2,000 lbs), and I don't like the cost of
operating it's tow vehicle, but I don't see a light trailer as a real
option, either. After I get a hanger here in the Phoenix area, I plan to
sell the trailer and the tow truck.
John Jung
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 Voltage Regulator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hello Folks,
Got a question for the group. I know it's a long shot but will give it a
try anyway. When I purchased the 912S from John Russell I neglected to
also get the voltage regulator that was with the motor. He has since
sold the plane to a fellow in Canada and I'm having no luck getting it
from him. What I would like to know is if anyone has a spare they would
be willing to part with. Looks like new ones sell for 150 bucks. Please
contact me off list if you can help.
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Thanks,
John Cooley
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Voltage Regulator |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| What I would like to know is if anyone has a spare they would
| be willing to part with. Looks like new ones sell for 150 bucks.
Please
| contact me off list if you can help.
John C/All:
Looks like you screwed up. :-) hehehe
The reason I can say that is because I understand where you are. I
have been the same place. I never got the new 912 off the ground with
the original voltage reg/rec. I wired it wrong and it would not work.
Rewired it wrong and still would not work. Wired it wrong another way
and it worked. Shut down my brand new 912, went in the house and
called Bro Jim in Woodville, FL. Told him I had finally figured out
what I was doing wrong with the reg/rec and it was working like a
champ. About that time I smelled an electrical fire. Looked out the
door and my brand new 912 and MK III were on fire.
I was short on time and money to get to Alaska. Decided I would try
the old Timpanian reg/rec from the 582. Ah!!! it worked. Got me on
that long flight and several years thereafter. The alternator never
was up to snuff in the performance department, but since I had no
experience with the system, I figured everything was ok.
When the Timpanian went belly up, replaced it twice with the Key West
reg/rec. Blew them up in a matter of hours.
Finally, bit the bullet, called Ronnie Smith, South Mississippi Light
Aircraft, ordered a 912 reg/rec. Was amazed at how well the
alternator performed. I had been severly limiting the output of the
alternator by not using the correct reg/rec.
My point is, no matter what, get the correct 912 voltage
regulator/rectifier and take not short cuts. No matter what it cost.
No, I don't have a spare. If I did, I would be like that guy up in
Canada. Keep it! :-)
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Don G. All,
I have sold auto parts for some 24 years now and have never really understood what
a "Heat range" of a spark plug does in the combustion chamber. I have always
had and still have customers asking for "Hotter" spark plugs and the spark
plug books explain the different "Heat Ranges" and what the number stands for
but explain nothing about what's actually going on in there.
Care to educate us?
pp
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| Subject: | Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
What's the difference between a Kolbra and a Slingshot? Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Kirk/All:
It's all in the name. hehehe
Well, about 8' of wing span and I forget how much tailboom difference.
Can't remember if it uses a slightly different wing rib or not.
I think that is the primary differences, along with probably a small
cockpit on the Sling Shot.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
I think Don is on a road trip Paul. Most of the guys asking for hotter plug
are trying to put a Band-Aid on a worn engine that is fowling the plugs with
excess oil. Basically the heat range of the plug controls the rate at which
the flame front moves across the cylinder. If you use too hot a plug you can
get preignition of the fuel air mixture before time which can make big holes
in little pistons.
I'm sure Don will come back and tear me a new one on this.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: spark plugs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
> Don G. All,
> I have sold auto parts for some 24 years now and have never really
understood what a "Heat range" of a spark plug does in the combustion
chamber. I have always had and still have customers asking for "Hotter"
spark plugs and the spark plug books explain the different "Heat Ranges" and
what the number stands for but explain nothing about what's actually going
on in there.
> Care to educate us?
>
> pp
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> Well, about 8' of wing span and I forget how much tailboom difference.
> Can't remember if it uses a slightly different wing rib or not.
>
> I think that is the primary differences, along with probably a small
> cockpit on the Sling Shot.
>
> john h
Looking at TNK website, it looks like the Kolbra wing is darn close to the
same as a Mark 3 wing. Wonder if I bought a Kolbra fuselage kit if I could
put my Mark 3 wings on it? :>) Or if I bought a wrecked Slingshot if my
Mark 3 wings would fit ? Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
required 4.6, BAYES_00 -4.90)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kirk,
Yes the mark3 and the kolbra have the same wing. Only difference is the
kolbra doesn't have flaps. Mine will. I borrowed another builders mark3
plans and will make my ailerons and flaps same as the M3. I Don't think the
M3 wings will fit a slingshot because the SS is a shorter single seater and
the kolbra is a 2 seat tandem. Also as John H and were comparing the two one
day we noticed how much wider the M3 is vs. the Kolbra.Therefore the M3 has
an overall longer wing span but same wing area.
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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---- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolbra/Slingshot???
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> > Well, about 8' of wing span and I forget how much tailboom difference.
> > Can't remember if it uses a slightly different wing rib or not.
> >
> > I think that is the primary differences, along with probably a small
> > cockpit on the Sling Shot.
> >
> > john h
>
> Looking at TNK website, it looks like the Kolbra wing is darn close to the
> same as a Mark 3 wing. Wonder if I bought a Kolbra fuselage kit if I could
> put my Mark 3 wings on it? :>) Or if I bought a wrecked Slingshot if my
> Mark 3 wings would fit ? Kirk
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Fellow Kolbers:
My Mark II is getting a new engine. I'm upgrading from points-based single
ignition to Ducati-based dual ignition and adding a fuel injector.
Consequently, I'll have a 503 block and heads for sale shortly. Any thoughts
on what it might be worth?
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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required 4.6, BAYES_00 -4.90)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Bryan,
I laugh and take their money as I have for years and your right about the
band-aid.
What I am trying to understand is where the heat is here. Have wondered
about this for years. Is it a hotter spark? A bigger spark? Interesting how
engine designers come up with this stuff. I bet there are 400 different
spark plugs on my shelf. And here is one for the shark tank. What's up with
rim fire plugs on marine 2 cycle engines? I have always told myself that the
"Heat Range" must have something to do with the insulator around the
electrode. Guess I have lied to myself long enough and now with all my new
brainy buddies maybe someone can learn me something here... Duh Huh....
ps. yeah Don is going to hand your A** to you on a silver platter but will
make you feel so good in the process:-)
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: spark plugs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> I think Don is on a road trip Paul. Most of the guys asking for hotter
plug
> are trying to put a Band-Aid on a worn engine that is fowling the plugs
with
> excess oil. Basically the heat range of the plug controls the rate at
which
> the flame front moves across the cylinder. If you use too hot a plug you
can
> get preignition of the fuel air mixture before time which can make big
holes
> in little pistons.
> I'm sure Don will come back and tear me a new one on this.
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: spark plugs
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
> >
> > Don G. All,
> > I have sold auto parts for some 24 years now and have never really
> understood what a "Heat range" of a spark plug does in the combustion
> chamber. I have always had and still have customers asking for "Hotter"
> spark plugs and the spark plug books explain the different "Heat Ranges"
and
> what the number stands for but explain nothing about what's actually going
> on in there.
> > Care to educate us?
> >
> > pp
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 value |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Ken,
In the Jan 04 issue of Experimenter magazine (which I was just reading
today), the issue of converting a 503 SI to a dual was addressed. The answer
from Phil Lookwood was "the old single-ignition Rotax aircraft engines
cannot be economically converted to the current dual ignition system. That
would require replacement of the cylinder heads, crankshaft, flywheel,
ignition stator...and purchase of the two external ignition modules and
trigger coils...more economical to sell that engine and buy a new one..."
Jim
Mark III
532 SIDC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 503 value
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers:
>
> My Mark II is getting a new engine. I'm upgrading from points-based single
> ignition to Ducati-based dual ignition and adding a fuel injector.
> Consequently, I'll have a 503 block and heads for sale shortly. Any
thoughts
> on what it might be worth?
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
> Rochester MI
>
>
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| Subject: | Ring Free Fuel Additive |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
Went to the ATV store today to purchase some injection oil and found a
product by Yamaha called Ring Free Fuel Additive.
Supposed to add it to your fuel and it prevents stuck rings and removes
carbon deposits.
Anyone have any experience with this stuff?
Vic
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hmmm............I don't know what to say. I just clicked on it, and it
opened fine. Anyone else have trouble with it ?? You could also go to my
website in the link in my signature, navigate to "Building Vamoose," and
open "Trailer & Landing Gear." Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> Hey Lar it said the link does not exist. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
> Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> > Huh ! ! !..............thank you, Jon........you jogged my alleged brain
a
> > bit. I don't have plans for it, but my trailer was built by John Wood
for
> a
> > FireStar, and is light, strong, and tows well. Several pictures of it
at
> > http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html . If you like, more pics
> are
> > easily taken and published. Let me know. Lar.
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
It'll work OK, depending on How Much you shorten it, but the effort to move
the controls will increase, since you'll have a shorter lever arm to move
them with. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: stick
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> Can anyone see a problem with me shorting the control stick a couple
inches on my plane?
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Your right about the insulator Paul along with the nose length and gas area around
the electrode and type of material the plug controls heat transfer from the
cylinder.
The spark plug starts the fire than acts as a heat exchanger to keep the temps
right.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Here is a good link on plugs.
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/techinfo/spark_plugs/techtips.asp?nav31000&countryUS
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
works here larry!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Hmmm............I don't know what to say. I just clicked on it, and it
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Thanks Lar I took 2" off it much more comfy now and don't hit the panel I
moved back. Will be painting soon if this 78 deg weather holds out and the
bosses leave me alone. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: stick
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> It'll work OK, depending on How Much you shorten it, but the effort to
move
> the controls will increase, since you'll have a shorter lever arm to move
> them with. Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: stick
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
> >
> > Can anyone see a problem with me shorting the control stick a couple
> inches on my plane?
> > Bryan Green Elgin SC
> > Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
> >
> >
>
>
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required 4.6, BAYES_00 -4.90)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Bryan,
Well I'll be darn. Was on the right track afterall. Please do tell more....
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: spark plugs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> Your right about the insulator Paul along with the nose length and gas
area around the electrode and type of material the plug controls heat
transfer from the cylinder.
> The spark plug starts the fire than acts as a heat exchanger to keep
the temps right.
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Don G. All,
I have sold auto parts for some 24 years now and have never really
understood what a "Heat range" of a spark plug does in the combustion
chamber. I have always had and still have customers asking for "Hotter"
spark plugs and the spark plug books explain the different "Heat Ranges" and
what the number stands for but explain nothing about what's actually going
on in there.
Care to educate us?
pp
Paul,
I'm not Don nor do I pretend to have the knowledge about engines that he and
all the others have, but I will take a stab at your question.
The heat range of a plug is more about how hot the tip or center electrode
is allowed to get. The heat is provided by the combustion inside the
cylinder. The length or distance that heat has to travel from the electrode
tip to a heat sink (the body of the plug and ultimately the head) is what
determines how hot the tip is allowed to get. If you look at two plugs that
are the series but different heat ranges you will see that the insulator
will be longer and maybe slimmer on the "hotter" plug. A "colder" plug will
have a shorter path from the tip to the body of the plug. The reason for
different heat ranges is to maintain the best temperature of the electrode
and insulator in order to keep "stuff" burned off. Too cold of a plug and
it will foul easily. Too hot and your engine will suffer from pre-ignition
(the fuel mixture being ignited by the glowing electrode)
Steven Green
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 value |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Thanks for the info, Jim. BUT, the "buy a new one" is exactly what I'm
doing. That's why I will have a single-ignition block for sale. :-)
-Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 503 value
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Ken,
>
> In the Jan 04 issue of Experimenter magazine (which I was just reading
> today), the issue of converting a 503 SI to a dual was addressed. The
answer
> from Phil Lookwood was "the old single-ignition Rotax aircraft engines
> cannot be economically converted to the current dual ignition system. That
> would require replacement of the cylinder heads, crankshaft, flywheel,
> ignition stator...and purchase of the two external ignition modules and
> trigger coils...more economical to sell that engine and buy a new one..."
>
> Jim
> Mark III
> 532 SIDC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 503 value
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> >
> > Fellow Kolbers:
> >
> > My Mark II is getting a new engine. I'm upgrading from points-based
single
> > ignition to Ducati-based dual ignition and adding a fuel injector.
> > Consequently, I'll have a 503 block and heads for sale shortly. Any
> thoughts
> > on what it might be worth?
> >
> > -Ken Fackler
> > Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
> > Rochester MI
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 value |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
By the way, I misspoke about the "fuel" injection. What I meant was "oil"
injection.
-Ken
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 503 value
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Ken,
>
> In the Jan 04 issue of Experimenter magazine (which I was just reading
> today), the issue of converting a 503 SI to a dual was addressed. The
answer
> from Phil Lookwood was "the old single-ignition Rotax aircraft engines
> cannot be economically converted to the current dual ignition system. That
> would require replacement of the cylinder heads, crankshaft, flywheel,
> ignition stator...and purchase of the two external ignition modules and
> trigger coils...more economical to sell that engine and buy a new one..."
>
> Jim
> Mark III
> 532 SIDC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 503 value
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> >
> > Fellow Kolbers:
> >
> > My Mark II is getting a new engine. I'm upgrading from points-based
single
> > ignition to Ducati-based dual ignition and adding a fuel injector.
> > Consequently, I'll have a 503 block and heads for sale shortly. Any
> thoughts
> > on what it might be worth?
> >
> > -Ken Fackler
> > Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
> > Rochester MI
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Ronnie and Lar I just copied Larry's link to my browser and it said this
page can not be displayed . must be one of them freak things I have been to
Lars page before. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
biglar@gogittum.com
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
>
> works here larry!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> > Hmmm............I don't know what to say. I just clicked on it, and it
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html
this don't work?
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> Ronnie and Lar I just copied Larry's link to my browser and it said this
> page can not be displayed . must be one of them freak things I have been
to
> Lars page before. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
> biglar@gogittum.com
> Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> >
> > works here larry!!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > >
> > > Hmmm............I don't know what to say. I just clicked on it, and
it
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
It works just had to get rid of a little squgily thing my browser put at the
end thanks. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
>
> http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html
>
> this don't work?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
> >
> > Ronnie and Lar I just copied Larry's link to my browser and it said this
> > page can not be displayed . must be one of them freak things I have been
> to
> > Lars page before. DO NOT ARCHIVE.
> > biglar@gogittum.com
> > Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> > >
> > > works here larry!!
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne"
<biglar@gogittum.com>
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm............I don't know what to say. I just clicked on it, and
> it
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
I asked about that when I was up at the reunion. The Kolbra fuselage has
the wings attach a little differently - the attach point is higher on the
root rib, that is, closer to the top of the airfoil. This allow the spar
carry-through to be higher through the cabin. This gives the pilot and
passenger a little more headroom. Remember on the Mark III you are sitting
in front of the carrythrough, but in the Kolbra it's in between the pilots.
One of the Kolb guys told me that at 6"2" I might not have enough headroom
in the Kolbra. Anyway, at a minimum you'd have to do some welding to the
root rib to fit Mk III wings to a Kolbra fuselage. The second problem is
that the Kolbra is set up for flaperons - the aileron torque tube is
maneuvered up and down in a clever actuator to achieve the flaperon
function. To use stock Mk III ailerons and flaps you'd have to scrap that
somehow and rig the flaps from scratch. Still, the possibility of
converting a Mk III classic to a Kolbra is tempting. 95% of my flying is
solo and it would be neat to sit on the centerline, and for the same power
it appears to be about 10mph faster. Looks good, too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolbra/Slingshot???
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> > Well, about 8' of wing span and I forget how much tailboom difference.
> > Can't remember if it uses a slightly different wing rib or not.
> >
> > I think that is the primary differences, along with probably a small
> > cockpit on the Sling Shot.
> >
> > john h
>
> Looking at TNK website, it looks like the Kolbra wing is darn close to the
> same as a Mark 3 wing. Wonder if I bought a Kolbra fuselage kit if I could
> put my Mark 3 wings on it? :>) Or if I bought a wrecked Slingshot if my
> Mark 3 wings would fit ? Kirk
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Steven,
(the fuel mixture being ignited by the glowing electrode)
Bingo!
Now I know what the deal is. As I now understand it. It's like a glow plug in a
R/C engine. Just got into this latley as a side hobby for my 2 year old. I learned
today that the 4 cycle engines in R/C aircraft are more like diesel in respect
that they fire without a spark but a constant heat source. Thanks. Any
of you Kolb brothers into radio controlled aircraft?
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
The Kolbra has duel controls the Slingshot doesn't.
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Guys,
I posted the Sling Shot as a one seater. Opps it has a second tanden seat. sorry....
pp
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
The Kolbra inboard rib is different than the Mark III's. The main spar
attach point is high on the Kolbra rib and low on the Mark III rib.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 520 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
|
| http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html
|
| this don't work?
Ronnie/All:
I agree.
I get the page to open, lots of words, and a background picture, but
no individual pics to show us those landing gear legs.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
The page opened fine for me (using Mozilla 1.4)...
And Lar, you shoulda just built a whole new trailer... woulda been easier!!!
-- Robert
At 08:49 PM 3/2/2004, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
>|
>| http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html
>|
>| this don't work?
>
>Ronnie/All:
>
>I agree.
>
>I get the page to open, lots of words, and a background picture, but
>no individual pics to show us those landing gear legs.
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | UL Flying Magazine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
If you want to order the magazine with the Mark IIIXtra on the cover you can
go here:
http://www.ulflyingmag.com/catalog/customer/home.php?cat=252
It is the March 2004 issue that will cost you $8. Bill Vincent said it
would be worth having especially to those building or owner the Xtra.
Clay Stuart
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Here ya go, John.......... http://www.flyingpics.homestead.com/gear1.html
.........the new gear legs picture has been on-line for a while now, but
haven't updated the Trailer & Landing Gear page yet. I'll get to it - bear
with me. I'll also take some pics of the door closing system that John
designed, too.........when the rain stops. It works very well.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
> Ronnie/All:
>
> I agree.
>
> I get the page to open, lots of words, and a background picture, but
> no individual pics to show us those landing gear legs.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
What ?? Do something the easy way ?? Me ?? The nice thing about
banging your head against the wall, is that it feels so good when you stop.
Stub-Bourne Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>
> The page opened fine for me (using Mozilla 1.4)...
>
> And Lar, you shoulda just built a whole new trailer... woulda been
easier!!!
>
> -- Robert
>
>
> At 08:49 PM 3/2/2004, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >
> >| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
> >|
> >| http://www.biglar.homestead.com/landing.html
> >|
> >| this don't work?
> >
> >Ronnie/All:
> >
> >I agree.
> >
> >I get the page to open, lots of words, and a background picture, but
> >no individual pics to show us those landing gear legs.
> >
> >john h
> >
> >DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Defense of the lightweight trailer |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:07:33 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
My trailer was light in weight because I designed it to be towed by a small truck.
Duh!
The folks that did the fabrication were not concerned about some nitwit loading
it with tons of furniture. It's an airplane trailer!
The wind is not likely to blow my trailer over when it's parked. That's what those
tie-down rings are for. Duh!
Those moving van/car haulers/horse trailers have very heavy springs and ride like
a tank when empty or carrying loads weighing only a fraction of their capacity.
Of course they will work but I did not need all that surplus capacity or
weight.
I have hauled my plane on long trips, in severe winds and the trailer has never
shown any sign of blowing over, going airborne or floating away. My boat/trailer
would really make many of my critics happy. It weighs 4 tons and the last
thing I'll ever have to worry about is it blowing away. Maybe I should put the
plane on my boat trailer ....
My regret are that the trailer should have a fold down door/loading ramp. As built
it has cam-lock, vertical hinge doors and I have to use special ramps for
loading. Elegant but extra parts extra work. I also thought about double axles.
More money, more weight but still not a bad idea.
Flame away, I'm gone,
Duane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
Gang,
Big Lar's site is opening up here just fine, in No. CA. Watch our Larry,
their up to something!
Bob Dalton
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly with trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
> Ronnie/All:
>
> I agree.
>
> I get the page to open, lots of words, and a background picture, but
> no individual pics to show us those landing gear legs.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with enclosed trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
what do you want for the trailor and do you have any pictures?
Srglink
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly with enclosed trailer for sale.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> Greetings Kolbers,
>
> My wife say's one plane is enough so I'm going to sell the FireFly and
start flying my recently completed Mk3/912.
>
> Any of you that are ready to buy should consider my FireFly. She is a
well-behaved flyer that has served me well for ~160 hours. The last 5 hours
have been logged over the beaches waters along Florida's Gulf Coast. When
she is not in the air she has always been hangared or snug in her
fully-enclosed lightweight trailer. She is still a good looker in spite of
her age.
>
> This was my third Kolb and when the plane was first completed I had it
weighed on a commercial scale. I have a ticket showing it weighed a little
under 250 lbs. Bigger wheels and full enclosure have probably put her over
the limit now but I saved all of the original parts and she could be
stripped back to original if required.
>
> BRS Chute,
> Alt, ASI, dual CHT, dual EGT, Hobbs,
> Enclosed Trailer,
> 8" wheels ('still have those dinky Kolb wheels complete with the band
brakes I made for them),
> Completed in 1999.
>
> The trailer was designed to be towed by a small Nissan pick-up but
with my Ford 150 I keep forgetting it is back there. It was built by a
commercial builder that makes specialty trailers and it is ready to go.
>
>
> The whole rig, ready for Springtime flying: $12,500.
>
> Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL (850) 878-9047
>
>
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| Subject: | Final Flight Firestar 1990 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi All:
I am slowly getting a little be smarter in my old age.
Discovered I can capture frames off the old VHS tape of the "wing
pulling" of my Firestar. Go through these files in order to see the
loop, then keep going and see the results of many, many loops, hours,
heavy loads, sub-warp speeds, and lots of rough air:
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Firestar%20Crash/
I appoligize for the size and quality of the pics, but the best I can
do for the moment. Perhaps I will get even more enlightened before I
become totally useless to humanity.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Awww John, yer only maybe just a bit partially on the useless
side---BUTT keep going, and write if you get work.
cordwoodly,
Bob N.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
That wing looks like a bundle of fish bones, John. Sure glad you were
packing that hand thrown chute. Lar. Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Final Flight Firestar 1990
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi All:
>
> I am slowly getting a little be smarter in my old age.
>
> Discovered I can capture frames off the old VHS tape of the "wing
> pulling" of my Firestar. Go through these files in order to see the
> loop, then keep going and see the results of many, many loops, hours,
> heavy loads, sub-warp speeds, and lots of rough air:
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Firestar%20Crash/
>
> I appoligize for the size and quality of the pics, but the best I can
> do for the moment. Perhaps I will get even more enlightened before I
> become totally useless to humanity.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
I think that's what Aubrey's wing did. The front/leading edge folded
back over the main/center spar and the wing failed. Hence the use of the
alum angles in mine.
Of course he was flying the five rib wing, way over grossed, doing loops,
hammerheads,
spins and no telling what else when it happened - at an air show. Had a
second chance
chute with a nylon strap instead of the kevlar ones we use today.
Might not have mattered anyway - heard he must have been going
120 mph straight down when he finally pulled it and the chute cut loose.
He would tear a Firestar up and just buy another one.
Don't think he ever built one himself. Used to be our
"Head Possum" but he would never admit to being one.
>I am slowly getting a little be smarter in my old age.
>
>Discovered I can capture frames off the old VHS tape of the "wing
>pulling" of my Firestar. Go through these files in order to see the
>loop, then keep going and see the results of many, many loops, hours,
>heavy loads, sub-warp speeds, and lots of rough air:
>
>http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Firestar%20Crash/
>
>I appoligize for the size and quality of the pics, but the best I can
>do for the moment. Perhaps I will get even more enlightened before I
>become totally useless to humanity.
>
>john h
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