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1. 04:15 AM - Re: Ring Free Fuel Additive (ul15rhb@juno.com)
2. 04:44 AM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Kirk Smith)
3. 05:24 AM - Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Wayne F.Wilson)
4. 05:51 AM - Radio Control (Jimmy)
5. 06:15 AM - Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 (garvelink)
6. 06:53 AM - Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? (Paul Petty)
7. 10:24 AM - Cuz'n P'fer (John Hauck)
8. 10:47 AM - Cuz'n P'fer 1990 (John Hauck)
9. 11:00 AM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer (Kirk Smith)
10. 11:44 AM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure (John Hauck)
11. 11:46 AM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer (John Hauck)
12. 12:03 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure (John Hauck)
13. 12:32 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer (ul15rhb@juno.com)
14. 12:49 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure (momweyland)
15. 02:22 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer (John Hauck)
16. 02:23 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure (John Hauck)
17. 03:15 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer aka bent wings (Bob N.)
18. 03:15 PM - Master Switch and fuel pumps (Jason Omelchuck)
19. 03:26 PM - Re: Cuz'n P'fer (Christopher Armstrong)
20. 03:55 PM - Re: Radio Control (garvelink)
21. 05:25 PM - Re: Master Switch and fuel pumps (Bob Bean)
22. 07:27 PM - aluminum skin (Clay Stuart)
23. 08:01 PM - Re: aluminum skin (CRAIG M NELSON)
24. 08:21 PM - [PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
25. 10:19 PM - Re: Defense of the lightweight trailer (DAquaNut@aol.com)
26. 10:20 PM - Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. (DAquaNut@aol.com)
27. 10:37 PM - Re: Defense of the lightweight trailer (Robert Laird)
28. 11:07 PM - Re: Defense of the lightweight trailer (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Ring Free Fuel Additive |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Vic,
For 2-strokes, this sounds interesting. I have never tried this, but I
might give it a try.
Ralph
Original Firestar
17 years flying it
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:28:33 -0700 "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
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> Went to the ATV store today to purchase some injection oil and found
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> product by Yamaha called Ring Free Fuel Additive.
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> Supposed to add it to your fuel and it prevents stuck rings and
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> Anyone have any experience with this stuff?
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
. Still, the possibility of
> converting a Mk III classic to a Kolbra is tempting. 95% of my flying is
> solo and it would be neat to sit on the centerline, and for the same power
> it appears to be about 10mph faster. Looks good, too.
Sure does! After flying my Minimax I really like sitting on the centerline.
Reminds me of my student pilot years flying my Dad's PA12. Not sure how
Kolb sells the Kolbra kit and whether just the fuselage and tail come as a
kit separate from the wings or if you can buy just one kit. They show 2 kits
on their website for the Kolbra. Maybe Paul can enlighten me on that. What
do the 2 kits consist of Paul?
Kirk
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| Subject: | Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" <wfwilson1@yahoo.ca>
Kirk/All
The Slingshot has 2 seats the back being a jump seat
similar to the Firestar11. It only has one set of
controls which makes it smaller than the Kolbra Here
are some specs form TN Kolb flyers
Mark3C Kolbra Slingshot
Wingspan 30 ft 28ft 4 in 22 ft
Wing Area 160 sq ft 154 sq ft 110 sq ft
Length 22ft 6in 24 ft 19 ft
except for the height the Slingshot has similar
wingspan and length to the Firefly.
SS is sometimes referred to as Firefly on Steroids
Hope this helps
Wayne F Wilson
SS #009
wfwilson1@yahoo.ca
Windsor ON
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jimmy <jhankin@planters.net>
Paul, I have been flying radio control for 35 years and do still fly them.
Jimmy Hankinson
912-863-7384
Rocky Ford, Ga. 30455
jhankin@planters.net
Kolb Firefly/447/240hrs
Local field, Pegasus/2000/Grass
Airport JYL/Sylvania, Ga.
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| Subject: | Re: Final Flight Firestar 1990 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
John,
Thanks for the information. You have made me a believer These pictures and
the video are worth more than a thousand words.
When we fly Craft built by our own hands we become the test pilots. That is
one of the great things about this forum we can learn from other peoples
experience. I thank you and everyone on this list that brings this
information to light.
Steve Garvelink
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Final Flight Firestar 1990
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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> Hi All:
>
> I am slowly getting a little be smarter in my old age.
>
> Discovered I can capture frames off the old VHS tape of the "wing
> pulling" of my Firestar. Go through these files in order to see the
> loop, then keep going and see the results of many, many loops, hours,
> heavy loads, sub-warp speeds, and lots of rough air:
>
> http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Firestar%20Crash/
>
> I appoligize for the size and quality of the pics, but the best I can
> do for the moment. Perhaps I will get even more enlightened before I
> become totally useless to humanity.
>
> john h
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra/Slingshot??? |
required 4.6, BAYES_00 -4.90)
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kirk,
Sure thing buddy. Kit #1 comes with all the material to build the tail
section, fuselage tube,wings,lift struts,lift strut fairings and a super
thick comic book they call plans. Kit #2 is the fuselage it's self and
everything else... well almost everything... no brakes or
covering..engine,prop,chute,instruments,predrilled finger tips and so on....
pp
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolbra/Slingshot???
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> . Still, the possibility of
> > converting a Mk III classic to a Kolbra is tempting. 95% of my flying
is
> > solo and it would be neat to sit on the centerline, and for the same
power
> > it appears to be about 10mph faster. Looks good, too.
>
> Sure does! After flying my Minimax I really like sitting on the
centerline.
> Reminds me of my student pilot years flying my Dad's PA12. Not sure how
> Kolb sells the Kolbra kit and whether just the fuselage and tail come as a
> kit separate from the wings or if you can buy just one kit. They show 2
kits
> on their website for the Kolbra. Maybe Paul can enlighten me on that.
What
> do the 2 kits consist of Paul?
>
> Kirk
>
> Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi All:
Anyone see anything wrong with the wings on this Firestar?
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Firestar%20Crash/PDVD_068.jpg
john h
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| Subject: | Cuz'n P'fer 1990 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
I don't remember the aircraft occilating this much under the canopy,
but a lot happened in a few seconds and it has been 14 years ago next
month.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Firestar%20Crash/PDVD_098.jpg
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Kind of grainy and small but the leading edges look kinda funny. Do I get a
star??? ;o)
>
> Anyone see anything wrong with the wings on this Firestar?
> john h
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi All:
Notice subject changed.
Now that I have scared hell out of a lot of you all, I would like to
clear up a few things.
Number 1: I know of two wing failures of the type I experienced on my
Firestar. Mine and Aubrey Radford's. I was fortunate and Aubrey was
not. He knew of my wing failure, which happened about two months
prior to his death. He knew how I flew and that did not change his
manner of flying.
Number 2: I do not see this type of failure happening to a good,
serviceable wing that has not been damaged, has all the important
lateral leading edge bracing, a strong aluminum nose on the inboard
rib.
Number 3: I feel it extremely prudent to do at least an annual
inspection of the inside of each wing panel to insure you have
everything your are supposed to have inside, and that all those things
are attached as prescribed in the contruction manuals. This goes for
all the 5 rib main wings on the Ultrastar and the Firestar.
Number 4: Flown as prescribed in the design envelope of the aircraft,
the wing should last for a very long time. A lot of things can
contribute to weakening the wings not counting "flying fast, hard, and
heavy". If mud daubers can get into the inside of the wing section,
the residue they leave behind is corrosive to aluminum. Last time I
opened up the ailerons and flaps on my MK III during repair and
revcovering of the left wing, dirt daubers had gotten into both
control surfaces through the drain holes, built nest. Everything that
drained out of those nests flowed downhill and collected on the
trailing edge and tails of the flap and aileron ribs. Where this
smelly goop was located was extensive corrosion.
Number 5: Lateral bracing can be broken by vibration during flight,
mishandling on the ground, catching a wingtip on the ground as the
result of a less than level landing or bending and/or breaking a
landing gear leg. To check the inside of a wing that does not have
inspection plates installed, cut a couple small slits in the inboard
rib fabric. One to look through and one to shine your flashlight
through. Should be able to get a good look at all bracing and other
important parts in the wing.
The 5/16" aluminum tube lateral bracing in the older Kolbs is prone to
breaking at the point they are bent to marry up with the main spar and
the leading edge tube. Length of time in service of these braces is
dependent, to a degree, on how well the builder made these bends.
Would I fly a 5 rib wing without additional reinforcing of the ribs?
Yes, and I have many times since I lost my Firestar. There are a lot
of them still out there flying after many years. Check'em out and fly
safe.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I get a
| star??? ;o)
Snuffy/All:
Nothing funny about my modified Firestar wings.
Those wings had the cord shortened about 18" in an attempt to get more
speed.
More speed was only gained in a nose down 90 degree dive. Although
much higher air speeds were gained, all controls were lost. Back to
the drawing board.
Sorry about the quality of the pictures. My excuse is I did not take
them. I only posed for them.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Gang:
Forgot to mention, after cutting a couple small inspection slits in
the inboard wing fabric, a couple small pieces of black electrical
tape will do an excellent job of sealing these holes. How do I know,
I have them on the right wing of my MKIII. Up until a couple years
ago, prior to recovering the left wing, it also had a couple pieces of
black electrical tape covering inspection slits.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
-- "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Snuffy/All:
Nothing funny about my modified Firestar wings.
Those wings had the cord shortened about 18" in an attempt to get more
speed.
More speed was only gained in a nose down 90 degree dive. Although
much higher air speeds were gained, all controls were lost. Back to
the drawing board.
Sorry about the quality of the pictures. My excuse is I did not take
them. I only posed for them.
john h
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John,
If I understand you right, are you saying that your wing chord was changed from
5 feet to 3.5 feet (5 feet minus 18 inches) when it failed? Your Oshkosh pics
don't show the change on Cuz'n P'fer.
Did you have the .028" leading edge tubes or the .035"?
How about the wingspan? Was that still 28 feet?
Ralph
Original Firestar
5-rib wing, 17 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "momweyland" <momweyland@cox.net>
Hi John,Didn't seem to get a response on the Kolb Archive.Could you tell me
if a Firestar II wing and tail kit would work on a 91 KXP fuse
cage.Thanks,Hank
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Gang:
>
> Forgot to mention, after cutting a couple small inspection slits in
> the inboard wing fabric, a couple small pieces of black electrical
> tape will do an excellent job of sealing these holes. How do I know,
> I have them on the right wing of my MKIII. Up until a couple years
> ago, prior to recovering the left wing, it also had a couple pieces of
> black electrical tape covering inspection slits.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
changed from 5 feet to 3.5 feet (5 feet minus 18 inches) when it
failed? Your Oshkosh pics don't show the change on Cuz'n P'fer.
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| Did you have the .028" leading edge tubes or the .035"?
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| How about the wingspan? Was that still 28 feet?
|
| Ralph
Hi Ralph/All:
Nope, you did not understand me right. I confused you because I
forgot to put the smiley face and hehehe and an explanation at the end
of that msg. I was joking.
The modification occured on my last flight. When the wings failed the
wing cord was shorted 18".
Yes, I had .028" tubes. I believe that is what the original Firestar
kits shipped with.
Wing span 27.5 feet, isn't it? What ever stock is. Nothing was
changed from the original plans on my Firestar wings and control
surfaces, inside or out. Had I known I was going to break them, I
would have done something ahead of time to make them stronger.
If you look closely at the wings in the picture, you can see where the
leading edge of both wings have been pushed back to the main spar.
However, the bowtip is still in its orginal shape.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Cuz'n P'fer's Wing Failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
tell me
| if a Firestar II wing and tail kit would work on a 91 KXP fuse
| cage.Thanks,Hank
Hi Hank/All:
Sorry.
I have no experience with the other Firestars. Mine was the original.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Cuz'n P'fer aka bent wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
John,
Strange, but I seem to reckolect that there usta be an old Navy bird
that had the same kinda wings--Chance (taka) Vought hatched a few. Was
the P4U Urinator--a real pissah.
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Master Switch and fuel pumps |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@acuityinc.com>
I am setting up my BMW engine which has no mechanical fuel pump so I am using dual
electrical pumps. If I have a solenoid powered master and I put them through
it, the engine would die if the solenoid failed. Not putting the fuel pumps
through the master seems to defeat the purpose of the master. Should I install
a mechanical master and run everything through it? Once a mechanical switch
is turned on, what are the chances of it failing?
Jason Omelchuck
MK III
Portland OR
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Nothing funny about my modified Firestar wings.
Those wings had the cord shortened about 18" in an attempt to get more
speed.
More speed was only gained in a nose down 90 degree dive. Although
much higher air speeds were gained, all controls were lost. Back to
the drawing board.
Funniest thing I think you have ever said on this list!!!! Maybe just funny
for an engineer. I don't know of any airborne aerodynamic or structural
modifications that have been considered successful.
Topher
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Control |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
I also fly RC have for 20 years or better Just recently got an ele-bee from
cliff whitney of atlanta hobby it is the most fun I have had it is an
electric wing and is the most agile and fun areobatic aircraft I have flown
loops rolls fly upside down. I can put some photos up if you would like.
this plane is made of epp foam and is almost indistructable. I ran into a
roof tonight and picked the plane up and threw it and flew it for 10 more
minutes.
Steve Garvelink
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Radio Control
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jimmy <jhankin@planters.net>
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> Paul, I have been flying radio control for 35 years and do still fly them.
>
> Jimmy Hankinson
> 912-863-7384
> Rocky Ford, Ga. 30455
> jhankin@planters.net
> Kolb Firefly/447/240hrs
> Local field, Pegasus/2000/Grass
> Airport JYL/Sylvania, Ga.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Master Switch and fuel pumps |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Jason, you could run a second line from that master switch to actuate
a dedicated relay for the fuel pump(s). The only solenoid I have is on
the starter and that is it's sole function. I also have inline automotive
fuses throughout. Any switch can fail but usually happens while switching
it. That's why it ain't a bright idea to do in-flight mag checks :) -BB
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Jason Omelchuck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@acuityinc.com>
>
>I am setting up my BMW engine which has no mechanical fuel pump so I am using
dual electrical pumps. If I have a solenoid powered master and I put them through
it, the engine would die if the solenoid failed. Not putting the fuel pumps
through the master seems to defeat the purpose of the master. Should I install
a mechanical master and run everything through it? Once a mechanical switch
is turned on, what are the chances of it failing?
>
>Jason Omelchuck
>MK III
>Portland OR
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
I was wondering about covering my Xtra fuselage with 0.020 aluminum. By my
calculations it would be 37 square feet, adding just over 10 pounds versus
fabric.
What do you think?
Advantages: .
- It can be painted before attaching. Since my frame is powder coated, it
would greatly simplify finishing by not having to mask and paint.
- Possibly easier to repair by replacing damaged panel
Disadvantages:
- Added weight, but probably not significant since I plan on the 912S
engine.
- More strength to intrusions in case of accident
- May weaken the longerons to drill rivet holes, but maybe the metal skin
would provide more overall strength
Questions:
- would you use 6061T6 0.020 skin?
- would the metal be much noisier and need sounproofing which would add
additional weight?
- would there be drumming of the thin metal and, if so, would additional
stringers be needed?
- do you think that the additional rivet holes would be a problem with loss
of strength or will the metal skin compensate
I think I have become fairly adept at metal working, making my fuel tanks,
rear enclosure windows and fuel doors
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tcstuart@adelphia.net.02.28.2004/airplane_005.jpg
Thanks for your input
Clay Stuart
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| Subject: | Re: aluminum skin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>
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I feel it a too up FAB. or aluminum. If you go with aluminum for skins use 2024
T3 It wont bend like 6061 if you bump it ect.
uncle craig
MKIIIex 912uls warp
Arizona www.milows.com
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From: Clay Stuart
Subject: Kolb-List: aluminum skin
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
I was wondering about covering my Xtra fuselage with 0.020 aluminum. By my
calculations it would be 37 square feet, adding just over 10 pounds versus
fabric.
What do you think?
Advantages: .
- It can be painted before attaching. Since my frame is powder coated, it
would greatly simplify finishing by not having to mask and paint.
- Possibly easier to repair by replacing damaged panel
Disadvantages:
- Added weight, but probably not significant since I plan on the 912S
engine.
- More strength to intrusions in case of accident
- May weaken the longerons to drill rivet holes, but maybe the metal skin
would provide more overall strength
Questions:
- would you use 6061T6 0.020 skin?
- would the metal be much noisier and need sounproofing which would add
additional weight?
- would there be drumming of the thin metal and, if so, would additional
stringers be needed?
- do you think that the additional rivet holes would be a problem with loss
of strength or will the metal skin compensate
I think I have become fairly adept at metal working, making my fuel tanks,
rear enclosure windows and fuel doors
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tcstuart@adelphia.net.02.28.2004/airplane_005.jpg
Thanks for your input
Clay Stuart
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| Subject: | Re: Defense of the lightweight trailer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 3/2/04 10:08:41 PM Central Standard Time, mitchmnd@msn.com
writes:
<<
My regret are that the trailer should have a fold down door/loading ramp. As
built it has cam-lock, vertical hinge doors and I have to use special ramps
for loading. Elegant but extra parts extra work. I also thought about double
axles. More money, more weight but still not a bad idea.
Flame away, I'm gone,
Duane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL
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Duane,
I built my trailer per your plans, Except ;
I used 1 piece of 2X4 box 1/8 " wall , for the main frame
I put the 1" square uprights on 24" centers.
I covered it with .040 Alum.
I made the door one piece . Folds down to serve as ramp. Works
beautifully, but it takes 2 people to lower & raise.
No windows
Just a tad narrower.
I used a 2200 lb dexter torsion axle.
Built the trailer completely before I finnished the Firefly. It fit
like a glove.
I havent weighed it but I dont think it weighs more than 1500 lbs.
I can push it around by myself on concrete.
Thanks again for all your help. Maybe some day I will get smart
enough to figure a way to get a picture on the list , but I wouldnt hold my
breath.
Ed (in Houston)
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly with trailer for sale. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 3/2/04 10:17:50 PM Central Standard Time,
wiserguy@comcast.net writes:
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Big Lar's site is opening up here just fine, in No. CA. Watch our Larry,
their up to something!
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I couldnt get it.
Ed (in Houston)
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| Subject: | Re: Defense of the lightweight trailer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> Thanks again for all your help. Maybe some day I will get smart
>enough to figure a way to get a picture on the list , but I wouldnt hold my
>breath.
>
>
> Ed (in Houston)
Ed... send me your runway's Lat/Long and I'll fly over this weekend and
take pictures for the list.
-- Robert (in Houston, too!) <g>
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| Subject: | Re: Defense of the lightweight trailer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 3/4/04 12:37:59 AM Central Standard Time,
rlaird@cavediver.com writes:
<<
Ed... send me your runway's Lat/Long and I'll fly over this weekend and
take pictures for the list.
-- Robert (in Houston, too!) <g>
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Robert,
Call me 713-9441147
Ed
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