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1. 06:43 AM - FS Prop (James and Cathy Tripp)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: FS Prop (dama)
3. 08:19 AM - Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? (boyd young)
4. 10:04 AM - Re: Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? (Bob N.)
5. 11:55 AM - mix ratio .... (artdog1512)
6. 11:58 AM - you don't need seafoam .. (artdog1512)
7. 12:06 PM - Re: FS Prop (Bob Bean)
8. 12:06 PM - it doesn't matter denny .... (artdog1512)
9. 01:37 PM - Re: FS Prop (John Cooley)
10. 04:12 PM - briggs for UL's .... (artdog1512)
11. 04:15 PM - The New Kolb Flying Season (John Williamson)
12. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Ring Free Additive or Mystery Oil? (Larry Bourne)
13. 10:51 PM - Re: Legal Paper Work ? (The Kuffels)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
For the FS owners,
I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a Powerfin. The
question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503 DCDI with a "B" gearbox
who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are you using?
James Tripp
FSII, 80% done
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
James, just call Stuart at the factory and tell him your setup. He will help
you with what you need. I have the same setup and cannot tell you the
specifics so just give Powerfin a call. Perhaps you can get a "show special"
at Sun n Fun?
Kip
FS II
Atlanta
http://www.springeraviation.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: FS Prop
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
<jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
>
> For the FS owners,
> I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a
Powerfin. The question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503
DCDI with a "B" gearbox who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are
you using?
>
> James Tripp
> FSII, 80% done
>
>
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| Subject: | Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Ring Free additive or Mystery oil?
My dad in law says that they used hydrolic oil to keep the engines clean on the
old thrashing machine....dont ack cause i dont know...
also OMC has a product that they sell for outboards. it is called engine tuner
injection can. sates it removes gum varnish lacquer and removes carbon from
sticky rings. for peek performance use every 50 hours or once a year. contains
aromatic hydrocrbon solvents and butyl cellosolve. fly safe..
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Boyd,
When I was a real young kid, they used steam engines---and hydraulic oil
hadn't been invented Maybe on the Infernal Combustion engines, though.
Bob N.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
Time: 12:00:55 PM PST US
From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Klotz
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty"
<lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
My friend that bought the Himax wants to run Klotz.
The folks at TN
prop say the
ratio is 40:1 for petrol base oil. Said the synthetic
would be less oil
to gas.
Any one know what the ratio should be for the Zenoah?
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty>>>>
Amsoil and Mobil tell me that it is the oil
that determines the mix ratio "NOT" the engine.
whether its synthetic or mineral grade - if the oil
says 50 to 1 then that is what you use, if the oil
says 100 to 1 then that is what you use. when
determining the gas/oil mix ratio the brand name of
the engine is irrelevant. ..... tim
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| Subject: | you don't need seafoam .. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
SeaFoamers,
I actually have used seafoam in my 2-stroke
fuel for years as
per
their instruction. It seems to have greatly reduced
carbon build up.
I
also for the last 50 hrs on my converted SeaDoo
engine, used Marvel
Mystery
Oil as well (at the same time). I sold the engine
without ever tearing
it
down so I can't say how it worked. ...Richard
Swiderski>>>>
if you use synthetic oil at 100 to 1 you won't
need Seafoam...... tim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
James, unless you are already aware: powerfin has a pretty good app chart
on their web site. I just received a new 65" B blade...looks good,
looking
forward to trying it. -BB do not archive.
James and Cathy Tripp wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
>
>For the FS owners,
>I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a Powerfin. The
question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503 DCDI with a "B" gearbox
who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are you using?
>
>James Tripp
>FSII, 80% done
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | it doesn't matter denny .... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
>
>Paul,
I would stick with 40 to 1 if I was your friend, maybe
50 to 1 but if
Zenoah
says 40 to 1 stay with it.
Denny Rowe>>>>
Zenoah recamends 40 to 1 mix because that's the
kind of oil they use, mineral grade oil that recamends
a 40 to 1 mix. if you used a synthetic oil that
recamends a mix of 100 to 1 then that is how you would
run it, not 40 to 1. it is the oil that determines the
mix ratio NOT the engine ..... tim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
James,
I have a FS II with a 503 DCDI and a 2.58 "B" gearbox. I am running a 3
blade 60 inch "B" model Powerfin. It is a nice prop with good
performance. When I bought my prop 1 1/2 years or longer ago, Stuart was
working on a new blade planform specifically designed for this
particular setup. Was supposed to have the carbon fiber looking blades
and perform a little better than the "B" model. I haven't touched base
with Stuart in quite a while and don't know if he is still working on
the project or gave it up etc.
And for John Hauck, I know the Powerfin is not as good or as tough as
the Warp Drive, but I think you have to spend a little more to the all
aluminum hub on the Warp :) Note the smiley face everyone, please.
Do not archive
Later,
John Cooley
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
--> <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
For the FS owners,
I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a
Powerfin. The question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503
DCDI with a "B" gearbox who are also running with a Powerfin, which one
are you using?
James Tripp
FSII, 80% done
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| Subject: | briggs for UL's .... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
if anyone can read german... check this out -
http://www.aeroklaus.de/50HP.JPG
http://www.aeroklaus.de/SPORTPLEUEL.JPG
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | The New Kolb Flying Season |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
I hope some other Kolb Flyers were able to get in the air today.
Today was the first real mini-trip I have been able to take in the Kolbra
since the 912S was installed.
I flew down to Houston for lunch with fellow Kolber Gary H. and back to get
a good fuel burn check at a couple of different power settings.
Today's results:
4600 rpm @ 1200 PA, 85+ mph, 4.3 gph. Speed was up to 90 mph at end of the
leg.
5000 rpm @ 1200 PA, 95+ mph, 4.9 gph. Speed was up to 100 mph at end of the
leg.
This is probably one of the smoothest running engines short of flying a jet.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra: 525 hours, Rotax 912 ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
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| Subject: | Re: re: Ring Free Additive or Mystery Oil? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Better watch out, Bob - you're messing with the stock additive package, and
it's well known that the prune juice will scavenge the V8 juice. Might be
cheaper to drink some Mexican water..............?? :-) Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: re: Ring Free Additive or Mystery Oil?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Good reading Thom. I never thought the teflon stuff was any good..and
> it was even pushed hard for aviation use at one point. One that I did
> try on my engines for awhile was Arco graphite. It was a colloidal
> suspension and at least did no harm. It was quite unpopular with the
> public because it was BLACK and extremely messy to deal with.
> Sure was easy to see on the dipstick though. I no longer fiddle
> with additives although for myself I attempt to alleviate the aging
> process with V-8 juice and prune juice. -BB do not archive
>
> Thom Riddle wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Legal Paper Work ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Earl,
I'll take a stab at your questions.
<<used plane .. registered with the FAA when it was built .. didn't keep
a log book or have the plane inspected in the 10 years that he owned it
.. what are the requirements for amateur built class as far as
inspections, log books, documentation required to be carried in the plane>>
First the short version. You will need essentially the same
documentation in the plane as any other GA aircraft.
Airworthyness Certificate
Registration
Radio License from the FCC if you fly outside the USA
Operating limitations and cockpit placards
Weight and Balance
As far as inspections, all you need is a logbook entry (not a continuous
logbook trail) with a condition inspection in the last 12 calendar
months signed by an A&P (any A&P will do, doesn't have to be an AI)
Now for some real world if, ands or buts:
I assume all of this paperwork is also missing was well as no logbooks.
You have to establish ownership of the aircraft in a manner satisfactory
to the FAA. This may be the most difficult part of the entire process.
They really want an unbroken chain of FAA "Aircraft Bill of Sale"
forms covering all ownership transfers. Although they will give you
grief, they are required to accept any legal document. Try to get
certified true copies of notarized bills of sale. Absent such a chain,
life can get really bureaucratic and you must beg mercy from the folks
at Oklahoma City where the FAA maintains the registration files.
As far as the FAA is concerned, the plane has not flown for the last 10
years if the prior owner didn't use the original N-number. I would
approach OKC with something like: "I plan to restore to flying status
amateur build experimental Kolb Model XYZ, Serial Number 123 formerly
registered as N1234AB built by Adam Baker in 19??. Enclosed are
certified true copies of Bills of Sale from Mr. Baker to me. {Or tell
them as much as you know about sales, *not* about any flight operations,
and ask them what to do.} Please reregister this aircraft in accordance
with the enclosed FAA Form [whatever, I forget the number]. All the
documentation for this aircraft was lost or destroyed before I purchased
it. Therefore, please send me duplicate copies of the Airworthyness
Certificate and Operating Limitations on file along with a new
Registration."
I would do a new weight and balance anyway even if you got one from the
prior owner. Also make sure all the required placards unique to amateur
built experimental aircraft are affixed.
<<I am a mechanic and would inspect and maintain the plane myself if
that is possible??>>
Anyone can maintain/modify an amateur build experimental. All that is
required is a "condition inspection" within the 12 prior calendar months
signed by an A&P. Let me know if need the exact wording of the logbook
entry.
If you make a "major" modification you need to write your local FAA FSDO
and tell them what you did and get their blessing and/or temporary
flight test restrictions. See the list archives for more information
about this issue.
<<about the time I figure out what the reg's are then the sport pilot
rules will come out and change the whole picture again.>>
The Sport Pilot proposal makes absolutely no change to the amateur built
experimental rules. The only effect is if the airplane meets the Light
Sport Aircraft parameters (all Kolbs do fit) and the plane is flown
within the limits of Sport Pilot operations, then the pilot does not
need a medical if he has a driver's license (assuming the pilot has
never *failed* a flight medical). The latter point is subject to
controversy and possible change but that is how identical wording is
currently interpreted for glider pilots.
Gook luck in your quest.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, Montana
Building Original FireStar
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