---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/06/04: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:43 AM - FS Prop (James and Cathy Tripp) 2. 06:59 AM - Re: FS Prop (dama) 3. 08:19 AM - Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? (boyd young) 4. 10:04 AM - Re: Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? (Bob N.) 5. 11:55 AM - mix ratio .... (artdog1512) 6. 11:58 AM - you don't need seafoam .. (artdog1512) 7. 12:06 PM - Re: FS Prop (Bob Bean) 8. 12:06 PM - it doesn't matter denny .... (artdog1512) 9. 01:37 PM - Re: FS Prop (John Cooley) 10. 04:12 PM - briggs for UL's .... (artdog1512) 11. 04:15 PM - The New Kolb Flying Season (John Williamson) 12. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Ring Free Additive or Mystery Oil? (Larry Bourne) 13. 10:51 PM - Re: Legal Paper Work ? (The Kuffels) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:49 AM PST US From: "James and Cathy Tripp" Subject: Kolb-List: FS Prop --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" For the FS owners, I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a Powerfin. The question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503 DCDI with a "B" gearbox who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are you using? James Tripp FSII, 80% done ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:26 AM PST US From: "dama" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FS Prop --> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" James, just call Stuart at the factory and tell him your setup. He will help you with what you need. I have the same setup and cannot tell you the specifics so just give Powerfin a call. Perhaps you can get a "show special" at Sun n Fun? Kip FS II Atlanta http://www.springeraviation.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "James and Cathy Tripp" Subject: Kolb-List: FS Prop > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" > > For the FS owners, > I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a Powerfin. The question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503 DCDI with a "B" gearbox who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are you using? > > James Tripp > FSII, 80% done > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:04 AM PST US From: "boyd young" Subject: Kolb-List: Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? My dad in law says that they used hydrolic oil to keep the engines clean on the old thrashing machine....dont ack cause i dont know... also OMC has a product that they sell for outboards. it is called engine tuner injection can. sates it removes gum varnish lacquer and removes carbon from sticky rings. for peek performance use every 50 hours or once a year. contains aromatic hydrocrbon solvents and butyl cellosolve. fly safe.. boyd ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:52 AM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ring Free additive or Mystery oil? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." Boyd, When I was a real young kid, they used steam engines---and hydraulic oil hadn't been invented Maybe on the Infernal Combustion engines, though. Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:45 AM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: mix ratio .... --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 Time: 12:00:55 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: Klotz --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Kolbers, My friend that bought the Himax wants to run Klotz. The folks at TN prop say the ratio is 40:1 for petrol base oil. Said the synthetic would be less oil to gas. Any one know what the ratio should be for the Zenoah? Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp www.c-gate.net/~ppetty>>>> Amsoil and Mobil tell me that it is the oil that determines the mix ratio "NOT" the engine. whether its synthetic or mineral grade - if the oil says 50 to 1 then that is what you use, if the oil says 100 to 1 then that is what you use. when determining the gas/oil mix ratio the brand name of the engine is irrelevant. ..... tim do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:28 AM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: you don't need seafoam .. --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 SeaFoamers, I actually have used seafoam in my 2-stroke fuel for years as per their instruction. It seems to have greatly reduced carbon build up. I also for the last 50 hrs on my converted SeaDoo engine, used Marvel Mystery Oil as well (at the same time). I sold the engine without ever tearing it down so I can't say how it worked. ...Richard Swiderski>>>> if you use synthetic oil at 100 to 1 you won't need Seafoam...... tim do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:22 PM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FS Prop --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean James, unless you are already aware: powerfin has a pretty good app chart on their web site. I just received a new 65" B blade...looks good, looking forward to trying it. -BB do not archive. James and Cathy Tripp wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" > >For the FS owners, >I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a Powerfin. The question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503 DCDI with a "B" gearbox who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are you using? > >James Tripp >FSII, 80% done > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:29 PM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: it doesn't matter denny .... --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 > >Paul, I would stick with 40 to 1 if I was your friend, maybe 50 to 1 but if Zenoah says 40 to 1 stay with it. Denny Rowe>>>> Zenoah recamends 40 to 1 mix because that's the kind of oil they use, mineral grade oil that recamends a 40 to 1 mix. if you used a synthetic oil that recamends a mix of 100 to 1 then that is how you would run it, not 40 to 1. it is the oil that determines the mix ratio NOT the engine ..... tim do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:26 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: FS Prop --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" James, I have a FS II with a 503 DCDI and a 2.58 "B" gearbox. I am running a 3 blade 60 inch "B" model Powerfin. It is a nice prop with good performance. When I bought my prop 1 1/2 years or longer ago, Stuart was working on a new blade planform specifically designed for this particular setup. Was supposed to have the carbon fiber looking blades and perform a little better than the "B" model. I haven't touched base with Stuart in quite a while and don't know if he is still working on the project or gave it up etc. And for John Hauck, I know the Powerfin is not as good or as tough as the Warp Drive, but I think you have to spend a little more to the all aluminum hub on the Warp :) Note the smiley face everyone, please. Do not archive Later, John Cooley --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" --> For the FS owners, I'm about to order the prop for my FS and have decided on using a Powerfin. The question is, which one? For those of you flying with a 503 DCDI with a "B" gearbox who are also running with a Powerfin, which one are you using? James Tripp FSII, 80% done ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:21 PM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: briggs for UL's .... --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 if anyone can read german... check this out - http://www.aeroklaus.de/50HP.JPG http://www.aeroklaus.de/SPORTPLEUEL.JPG __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:41 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Flying Season --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" I hope some other Kolb Flyers were able to get in the air today. Today was the first real mini-trip I have been able to take in the Kolbra since the 912S was installed. I flew down to Houston for lunch with fellow Kolber Gary H. and back to get a good fuel burn check at a couple of different power settings. Today's results: 4600 rpm @ 1200 PA, 85+ mph, 4.3 gph. Speed was up to 90 mph at end of the leg. 5000 rpm @ 1200 PA, 95+ mph, 4.9 gph. Speed was up to 100 mph at end of the leg. This is probably one of the smoothest running engines short of flying a jet. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra: 525 hours, Rotax 912 ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:21 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: re: Ring Free Additive or Mystery Oil? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Better watch out, Bob - you're messing with the stock additive package, and it's well known that the prune juice will scavenge the V8 juice. Might be cheaper to drink some Mexican water..............?? :-) Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bean" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: re: Ring Free Additive or Mystery Oil? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean > > Good reading Thom. I never thought the teflon stuff was any good..and > it was even pushed hard for aviation use at one point. One that I did > try on my engines for awhile was Arco graphite. It was a colloidal > suspension and at least did no harm. It was quite unpopular with the > public because it was BLACK and extremely messy to deal with. > Sure was easy to see on the dipstick though. I no longer fiddle > with additives although for myself I attempt to alleviate the aging > process with V-8 juice and prune juice. -BB do not archive > > Thom Riddle wrote: ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:13 PM PST US From: The Kuffels Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Legal Paper Work ? --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels Earl, I'll take a stab at your questions. <> First the short version. You will need essentially the same documentation in the plane as any other GA aircraft. Airworthyness Certificate Registration Radio License from the FCC if you fly outside the USA Operating limitations and cockpit placards Weight and Balance As far as inspections, all you need is a logbook entry (not a continuous logbook trail) with a condition inspection in the last 12 calendar months signed by an A&P (any A&P will do, doesn't have to be an AI) Now for some real world if, ands or buts: I assume all of this paperwork is also missing was well as no logbooks. You have to establish ownership of the aircraft in a manner satisfactory to the FAA. This may be the most difficult part of the entire process. They really want an unbroken chain of FAA "Aircraft Bill of Sale" forms covering all ownership transfers. Although they will give you grief, they are required to accept any legal document. Try to get certified true copies of notarized bills of sale. Absent such a chain, life can get really bureaucratic and you must beg mercy from the folks at Oklahoma City where the FAA maintains the registration files. As far as the FAA is concerned, the plane has not flown for the last 10 years if the prior owner didn't use the original N-number. I would approach OKC with something like: "I plan to restore to flying status amateur build experimental Kolb Model XYZ, Serial Number 123 formerly registered as N1234AB built by Adam Baker in 19??. Enclosed are certified true copies of Bills of Sale from Mr. Baker to me. {Or tell them as much as you know about sales, *not* about any flight operations, and ask them what to do.} Please reregister this aircraft in accordance with the enclosed FAA Form [whatever, I forget the number]. All the documentation for this aircraft was lost or destroyed before I purchased it. Therefore, please send me duplicate copies of the Airworthyness Certificate and Operating Limitations on file along with a new Registration." I would do a new weight and balance anyway even if you got one from the prior owner. Also make sure all the required placards unique to amateur built experimental aircraft are affixed. <> Anyone can maintain/modify an amateur build experimental. All that is required is a "condition inspection" within the 12 prior calendar months signed by an A&P. Let me know if need the exact wording of the logbook entry. If you make a "major" modification you need to write your local FAA FSDO and tell them what you did and get their blessing and/or temporary flight test restrictions. See the list archives for more information about this issue. <> The Sport Pilot proposal makes absolutely no change to the amateur built experimental rules. The only effect is if the airplane meets the Light Sport Aircraft parameters (all Kolbs do fit) and the plane is flown within the limits of Sport Pilot operations, then the pilot does not need a medical if he has a driver's license (assuming the pilot has never *failed* a flight medical). The latter point is subject to controversy and possible change but that is how identical wording is currently interpreted for glider pilots. Gook luck in your quest. Tom Kuffel Whitefish, Montana Building Original FireStar