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1. 03:37 AM - List (Eugene Zimmerman)
2. 04:33 AM - Re: List (Bob Bean)
3. 05:30 AM - Re: List (Dale Sellers)
4. 05:43 AM - Big Bang (Jack & Louise Hart)
5. 07:23 AM - Sling Shot Availability (John Hauck)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: Craftsman Tools (garvelink)
7. 09:32 AM - Re: List (Matt Dralle)
8. 01:22 PM - Re: tank installation (Don Gherardini)
9. 03:56 PM - slow so... (Paul Petty)
10. 04:20 PM - Re: firestar/HKS (ActionCrane@aol.com)
11. 04:21 PM - Re: Craftsman Tools (John Hauck)
12. 05:39 PM - Re: Craftsman Tools (Gary r. voigt)
13. 07:09 PM - Re: List (GeoR38@aol.com)
14. 07:34 PM - Velcro deterioration (H MITCHELL)
15. 08:53 PM - Re: slow so... (Christopher Armstrong)
16. 11:54 PM - Fw: Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Just a check.
Did I get bumped off the list or did the list just die?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Eugene, the end of the world came and you missed it......
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Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
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>Just a check.
>
>Did I get bumped off the list or did the list just die?
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Died for me too. Bet nine months from now will tell what list members were
doing.
Dale Sellers
Georgia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: List
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
<eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
>
> Just a check.
>
> Did I get bumped off the list or did the list just die?
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
Kolbers,
Interesting incident.
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 751T Make/Model: BE65 Description: 65 Queen Air (U-8F Seminole)
Date: 03/09/2004 Time: 2100
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: SEDONA State: AZ Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT LANDED RWY 21 (SEZ), AND TURNED ONTO TWY A7. THE OUTBOARD END OF THE
LEFT WING EXPLODED, ADJACENT TO THE OUTBOARD FUEL TANK. INVESTIGATION ON
SCENE 3/11/04 LOCATED A RAG AND CLAMP ON THE FUEL LINE. NO INJURIES AND
SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE BY FIRE ARE REPORTED. SEDONA, AZ
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Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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Subject: | Sling Shot Availability |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi All:
Got a call from Travis Brown, Number One Parts Man, TNK.
Travis asked me to pass on to the Kolb List the following. The Sling
Shot is available. It has not been advertised, but kits are available
on an as needed basis. That is, the parts for the kits are not kept
on the shelf, but if someone buys a SS Kit, it will be welded up and
sent on its way.
I personally enjoy flying the SS. It is a fun airplane, agile, fast,
extremely strong (I think Dennis and Homer designed it for me so I
would not be able to break it.) and gets in the air and on the ground
like the rest of the Kolb family. I heartedly endorse it. I have
flown it with the 582 and a passenger with a big commercial video
camera. Also flown the 912 powered SS with passenger. It seems to
feel better when loaded down than when flown single pilot. Amazed me
first time I took off with a passenger in the 582 powered SS. Did a
tremendous job for those tiny little stubby 22' wings.
Take care,
john h
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Subject: | Re: Craftsman Tools |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
John,
Digitorqs are notorious for not being acurate. the old beam torques are the
most accurate. the digis can change from day to day.
Steve Garvelink
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Craftsman Tools
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Everybody:
>
> We all know about Craftsman lifetime warranty on their top of the line
> tools.
>
> I have a Digitorq Torque Wrench I mail ordered from Sears, probably
> 20+ years ago. I was state of the art back then and cost $39.99. By
> the time I got it through shipping it was about $42.00.
>
> My torque wrench had been having some old age pains, was getting
> unrealiable. Would not always click when it got to the specified
> torque dialed in. It is 1/2" drive and has a long handle. This
> reliability problem can create big problems.
>
> I took in down to Montgomery where the nearest Sears Store is located.
> Walked in to get my torque wrench swapped one for one. To my
> surprise, the warranty is 90 days for calibration and 1 year for
> manufacturer's defects. Not too cool. Probably cost me more to have
> it repaired and calibrated than to buy a new one. The new one's look
> exactly like this old dinsour and are $89.99.
>
> Never mind. I'll have to shop for a torque wrench else where.
> Probably end up with a bar type like my little 3/8" drive.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Seems to be working alright for me...? You're subscribed alright or you
couldn't have posted.
Matt Dralle
List Admin.
At 03:28 AM 3/12/2004 Friday, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
><eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
>
>Just a check.
>
>Did I get bumped off the list or did the list just die?
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Subject: | Re: tank installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Bryan...
I have got the tank installed...I set in in with the filler cap to the
side...and all the way down on the boom..like the origional 5 gal was in the
FireFly. I put it in there that way so to get the cap closer to the side to
make it weasier to fill. I also ordered a 5 gal fuel jug from Jaz becuse I
have always had trouble filling from a 5 gallon gas can. This "Fuel Jug", as
they are called, has the neck all the way to the edge of the jug, so when
you tip it up to horizontal, all the fuel will drain. Due to the way I have
to fill my Fly, , from the side, I cant tip a 5 gallon can up very high
because the it hits the bottom of the wing. and this taller tank will make
that worse. I hope this new gas can will make it easier to fill.
I welded the small tabs you see in the pics to the cage, and made a
corresponding bracket from .250x..028 cromemoly tubing, and welded tabs on
the ends , drilled for a AN3 bolt...and I will be able to remove it and
replace it with something different if the need arises....Like maybe putting
back a 5 gallon tank if I have to some day. THis way I can unbolt the large
tank holding frame and bolt in a smaller oner that fits the smaller tank.
This is very similiar to the way to other 5 gal tank was in there..other
than the .250 tubing was welded to the cage...which I removed altogether.
anyhow enclosed are the pics..
I am covering the cage today...and I made a door on the side hinged at the
top and fastened with camlocs to access the fuel tank to fill it. and also
access the small baggage storage I put in at the rear of the cage. That is
the aluminum you see in the rear section of the cage.
Don
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Hi Kolbers,
It's been slow here in the Kolb camp for the past few days. I guess many, like
myself have been busy dusting off the mowers, starting up the swimming pool and
getting outdoors and flying and such. Not to mention building an airplane. With
the grass starting to turn green and the temps beginning to climb out of the
freezing range, I am excited about this summer. My plans include completing
my PPL training and finishing my Kolbra. I ordered kit 2 yesterday and are waiting
for it to arrive next week sometime. Just a note here when ordering kits
from TNK. I plan on installing Matco brakes and larger wheels and tires that
John W. has on his Kolbra. I also plan on a custom fuel cell and flaps for Ms.Dixie.
So, when I ordered kit # 2 I asked Linda if she could delete the wheels
and tires and fuel tanks. I was pleased to hear her say "Not a problem". They
will subtract the "cost" of these items from the kit. TNK folks are a wonderful
to work with. Key work here though is "cost" not what you and I would pay for
these items, but what the factory pays for them. Probably more than what you
could get for these items if ya sold them to a buddy. TNK company to me is more
like a family of people rather than a kit airplane company. Trust me on this
one.. Rans did a 180 on us after a hand shake deal at S$F last year.
Engines.... On the way to the airport last weekend I asked Charley.. "Did you tell
me previously that the "360" in IO360 stood for cubic inch displacement?"
He replied with a yes. I sat quiet in the car and thought about that for a while....
Ok self.. trying to do the math... 4 cylinders ... 360 CID... dang that's
90 CI per hole.... if that were a V8 it would be a 720 CID engine! And after
looking at the cylinder length it looks a lot like the 912 rotax. A calculation
from a yahoo hanger regular and A&P said he figured it @ 5.125 bore x 4.375
stroke.... still don't sound big enough for me. Anyone care to explain this
one to me?
(pi 3.14159 pi/4 .7853975 d bore diameter of a cylinder dxx2 d-squared stroke
stroke of crankshaft cyl number of cylinders) Don? ya out there buddy?
Well guys & gals it's Friday night an I have a hot date with a air drill and a
bunch of aluminum tubing! :-)
ps. Charley..20k hour pilot flew the R/C J3 cub for me the first time this past
weekend....hehe one turn and straight into the house.... engine torn off front
of the foam fuselage ripped in half... we laughed for hours.... a little Elmer's
and she was good to go!
Have fun this weekend folks!
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:firestar/HKS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ActionCrane@aol.com
Does anyone have a Firestar2 with an HKS 60 hp 4 stroke motor on it? I'm not
real comfy with the idea of flying over forest covered mountains with a 2
stroke. My 377 broke off a piston skirt 2 days ago.Fortunatly it did it while I
was doing a touch & go and I never got ai
rborne. I wasn't doing anything unusual and it gave no warning.
Steve Henry
Original Firestar/377
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Subject: | Re: Craftsman Tools |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
torques are the
| most accurate. the digis can change from day to day.
|
| Steve Garvelink
Hi Steve/Gang:
I agree.
I bought a 1/2" beam type to match my 3/8" beam type.
Take care,
john h
PS: You home from VA with that Ultrastar already?
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Subject: | Re: Craftsman Tools |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
just wanted to let you folks know when i worked for Sears in the
70's.... we would always get someone that wanted us to replace a torque
wrench.......not soooo....it is only "hand tools" that they consider to be
lifetime warrantee....except if you lose them...sorry John i just had to
mention this.
Gary r. voigt
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----- Original Message -----
From: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Craftsman Tools
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
>
> John,
>
> Digitorqs are notorious for not being acurate. the old beam torques are
the
> most accurate. the digis can change from day to day.
>
> Steve Garvelink
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Craftsman Tools
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> > Hi Everybody:
> >
> > We all know about Craftsman lifetime warranty on their top of the line
> > tools.
> >
> > I have a Digitorq Torque Wrench I mail ordered from Sears, probably
> > 20+ years ago. I was state of the art back then and cost $39.99. By
> > the time I got it through shipping it was about $42.00.
> >
> > My torque wrench had been having some old age pains, was getting
> > unrealiable. Would not always click when it got to the specified
> > torque dialed in. It is 1/2" drive and has a long handle. This
> > reliability problem can create big problems.
> >
> > I took in down to Montgomery where the nearest Sears Store is located.
> > Walked in to get my torque wrench swapped one for one. To my
> > surprise, the warranty is 90 days for calibration and 1 year for
> > manufacturer's defects. Not too cool. Probably cost me more to have
> > it repaired and calibrated than to buy a new one. The new one's look
> > exactly like this old dinsour and are $89.99.
> >
> > Never mind. I'll have to shop for a torque wrench else where.
> > Probably end up with a bar type like my little 3/8" drive.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > john h
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/04 8:31:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dsel1@bellsouth.net writes:
>
> Died for me too. Bet nine months from now will tell what list members were
> doing.
> Dale Sellers
> Georgia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: List
>
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
> <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
> >
> >Just a check.
> >
> >Did I get bumped off the list or did the list just die?
>
HAH! are you implyin that the members of this list are feisty enough to even
THINK about , let alone do, what I think you are thinking??
George Randolph
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Subject: | Velcro deterioration |
Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:34:30 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Hi Gang,
'Took my Firefly for a hop this A.M. and she was happy to go. After climbout I
took her up to cruise speed and was tooling along just fine until I heard one
of those strange noises we all dread. 'Made it back to the field and set her down
without further problems. When I looked her over I found that the back section
of my metal wing gap cover had popped up and was making all the noise.
Close examination showed that one area of two inch wide velcro had lost most of
it's "fuz". It has been on there for about two years and was not bald but definitely
less than new. I used a piece of new matching Velcro to test it's holding
power and confirmed that it was no longer holding as it should. In addition
the cables going to the BRS rocket were not where they should be and were pushing
against the underside of the gap cover.
Note: it was the fuzzy side of the velcro that lost it's grip the loop side tested
o.k.
Builder's Note: I found that removing the Velcro from the top of the inboard wing
rib was going to be a real problem because it is glued on and MEK would make
a real mess of the fabric in that area. I will probably just glue a new piece
on top of the old one. The matching velcro (loops) on the underside of the metal
gap cover is o.k. I should have had the fuzzy side glued to the metal so
that when it wore out it would be easy to remove because the MEK would not damage
the metal.
Living and still learning,
Duane the plane Tallahassee, FL, FireFly SN007, Mk3/912.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
----- A calculation from a yahoo hanger regular and A&P said he figured it @
5.125 bore x 4.375 stroke.... still don't sound big enough for me.
Displacement is piston area times stroke. The area is pi* r
2, so you have
3.14*(5.125/2)
2*4.375=90.25 cubic inches... times 4 cylinders is 361 CID.
Topher
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Subject: | Fw: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I sent this link to Boyd a few minutes ago, and bcc'ed to myself. Since the new
trip is in just a couple of months, I thought this might be an appropriate time
to dust off the old memories, and get the dreams going again. Enjoy.
Lar.
Subject: Monument Valley
I just published a few pics of the MV trip to the Nikon camera forum. This is
a true world wide group, and a lot of fun. Your plane is in 2 of the pics I used,
and I thought you might like to take another look. If this link works out,
I think I'll send it to the whole List. John W., your plane's here, too, and
I believe the pics were all taken from Miss P'fer. Good memories.
Lar.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum1007&message7985258
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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