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1. 01:02 AM - Re: Grey Baron sighting? (Larry Bourne)
2. 01:29 AM - Re: Grey Baron sighting? (Edward Chmielewski)
3. 06:13 AM - writers (kinnepix)
4. 06:43 AM - Airnav.com (Richard Pike)
5. 06:49 AM - FW: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) (Christopher Armstrong)
6. 07:39 AM - Re: FireFly Update and Mods.. (Don Gherardini)
7. 09:20 AM - Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) (Larry Bourne)
8. 10:30 AM - Re: writers (Cory Emberson)
9. 12:29 PM - Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) (John Hauck)
10. 12:41 PM - Re: Airnav.com (John Hauck)
11. 01:10 PM - Re: Airnav.com (Bob Bean)
12. 01:25 PM - Re: Airnav.com (Robert Laird)
13. 01:45 PM - Re: Airnav.com (John Hauck)
14. 02:15 PM - Your My Hero (Mike Pierzina)
15. 02:36 PM - UMA Tach (The Kuffels)
16. 04:34 PM - Re: Airnav.com (Fackler, Ken)
17. 07:25 PM - Re: Your My Hero (Cory Emberson)
18. 07:31 PM - Re: Your My Hero (John Hauck)
19. 07:41 PM - Re: UMA Tach (John Hauck)
20. 09:32 PM - Re: FireFly Update and Mods.. (Dennis Souder)
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| Subject: | Re: Grey Baron sighting? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Love it ! ! ! Sure looks like the ol' rascal to me. :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Grey Baron sighting?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> Hey, I think I might have spotted our own Grey Baron, Bob Noyer
> in today's paper. If you want to see it, here's the link
>
> http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/GreyBaron.html
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Grey Baron sighting? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Rev. Pike,
Nice job. A definite resemblance, too!
Do not archive.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Grey Baron sighting?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
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> Hey, I think I might have spotted our own Grey Baron, Bob Noyer
> in today's paper. If you want to see it, here's the link
>
> http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/GreyBaron.html
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: kinnepix <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Just a brief comment --
It sounds as though Cory should have started her request with an explanation
of who she was and what she was doing, before she asked for any help, and
I'm sure she realizes this now.
But as a professional photographer-writer for all my adult life, I know
there IS NO "easy way to write an article". It's all hard work, esp. in a
new or unusual field. And I know that Editors are famous for saying "do this
by next week if you want this job" -- which puts a lot of pressure on the
writer. It's too easy, under this pressure, to lean on people a bit more
than you should, or short-cut things like introductions. She's just trying
to do her job. Let's help if we can.
We've all been through 'Theme Writing 101' at some point.
Russ Kinne
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
For those of you that have been using Airnav.com to look up different
airports, it appears they are going to a List-for-fee type service. I have
gotten 4 notices that unless I send them ongoing payments, they are going
to drop Indian Springs airport off their listing. So don't be surprised if
many of the airports you used to find on their website are no longer there.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Armstrong [mailto:tophera@centurytel.net]
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article
(Interiors/Exteriors)
Cory,
Sorry you have received such rude replies from some of the Kolb listers. I
don't think I have anything useful to give you for your article since I
haven't gotten that far in my plane yet. I did contribute to the interior
of Powersport Aviation's RV-6A, putting a custom computer and engine
management and navigation software in the instrument panel, see
www.powersportaviation.com if that might interest you.
I think they are wrong to insult your research methods. Despite some of the
comments about your techniques by some of the listers, I think it is good to
go straight to the troops to hear what they are doing in the trenches so to
speak, as long as you do additional research on your own and compose the
information from all sources into a good article. I don't know where these
guys think you are supposed to get information about how people are
finishing their kitplane then from the kit builders?
Anyway, good luck and I look forward to reading the article since I hope to
be finishing my plane soon.
Topher
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Update and Mods.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
gosh george.....thx fer the kind words....!
Don Gherardini
OEM.Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'll go along with that, Topher. Cory, take a look in my website, under
"Building Vamoose," and use what you think you might need. All I ask in
return is that I receive proper credit for it. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
Subject: FW: Kolb-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article
(Interiors/Exteriors)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong"
<tophera@centurytel.net>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Armstrong [mailto:tophera@centurytel.net]
> To: 'kolb-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article
> (Interiors/Exteriors)
>
> Cory,
>
> Sorry you have received such rude replies from some of the Kolb listers.
I
> don't think I have anything useful to give you for your article since I
> haven't gotten that far in my plane yet. I did contribute to the
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Thanks Russ, I appreciate it. Editorial work is like that - "wait and hurry
up."
I do apologize for shorting you all on the introduction ... please pardon my
temporary lapse in good manners. :-)
Just for the record, with a smile, I am 46 - well past my yout', and never
had the chance to do research online when I was in college. We actually had
to show up at the library and find books and journals! I even had to write
my papers and theses on an IBM Selectric ... uphill, both ways! :-)
At any rate, I hope the waters are calmed and I appreciate the replies very
much. I have quite a few emails to wade through, and will reply to everyone
in person.
best regards,
Cory
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: kinnepix <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>
> Just a brief comment --
> It sounds as though Cory should have started her request with an
explanation
> of who she was and what she was doing, before she asked for any help, and
> I'm sure she realizes this now.
> But as a professional photographer-writer for all my adult life, I know
> there IS NO "easy way to write an article". It's all hard work, esp. in a
> new or unusual field. And I know that Editors are famous for saying "do
this
> by next week if you want this job" -- which puts a lot of pressure on the
> writer. It's too easy, under this pressure, to lean on people a bit more
> than you should, or short-cut things like introductions. She's just trying
> to do her job. Let's help if we can.
> We've all been through 'Theme Writing 101' at some point.
> Russ Kinne
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Cory,
|
| Sorry you have received such rude replies from some of the Kolb
listers.
| Anyway, good luck and I look forward to reading the article since I
hope to
| be finishing my plane soon.
|
| Topher
Topher/Listers:
Doesn't look like we will ever agree on anything, does it?
You seemed to have missed my point again, as usual.
I, for one, am anxiously awaiting the completion and test pilot
reports of the Topher Special Kolb FS. I'm sure, with a few hours of
test flying and tweaking, you will have that little sucker humming.
BTW: Cory and I have been corresponding bc. We have no problems,
now. :-)
Good luck,
john h (Flying and tweaking Kolbs for 20 years. There is no end to
it. If there was, it wouldn't be any fun. hehehehe)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
So don't be surprised if
| many of the airports you used to find on their website are no longer
there.
|
| Richard Pike
Richard/All:
Seems to be the price of progress these days. We get comfortable with
a free system, then they try to extort money from us. Well, got along
without them before, guess I can now if necessary. However, it is
convenient finding those little private strips and airports that I can
not find any other way.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
You mean they will disappear from the face of the earth? curiouser and
curiouser....
I better put a fence around my runway. har har do not archive
Richard Pike wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
>For those of you that have been using Airnav.com to look up different
>airports, it appears they are going to a List-for-fee type service. I have
>gotten 4 notices that unless I send them ongoing payments, they are going
>to drop Indian Springs airport off their listing. So don't be surprised if
>many of the airports you used to find on their website are no longer there.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 08:43 AM 3/15/2004, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
>For those of you that have been using Airnav.com to look up different
>airports, it appears they are going to a List-for-fee type service. I have
>gotten 4 notices that unless I send them ongoing payments, they are going
>to drop Indian Springs airport off their listing. So don't be surprised if
>many of the airports you used to find on their website are no longer there.
That's an odd strategy... if, say, almost no one paid for the listing,
then the usefulness of AirNav would drop precipitously, and no one would
visit it. Seems the few remaining airports that did pay would be pretty
angry that the service lost its popularity.
If this were the only source available on the Internet, then it might
(emphasis on "might") work, but since it isn't, I see them going the way of
the Dodo Bird.
-- R
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
and
| curiouser....
| I better put a fence around my runway. har har
BB/Gang:
Too late.
I already go you in the hauck's holler GPS data base. Was fortunate
enough last October to spend the night right in the middle of Bean
Field, or is it Bean Airfield? Slept pretty good too.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey John,
You should put some kind of a Generic Apology in your "signature"...
because you can't please ALL the people ALL the time... He he he
I sent some pictures to that lady...but she told me to finish my plane....?
I told her she obviously didn't check my web site like I told her....I'm
ready for engine break-in and taxi testing....Oh well, Whatever...
I'm SORRY , but,
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
Do Not Archive
---
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Sent this yesterday but it was bounced back by a server in Seattle
saying Matronics was "full". Ah the wonders of computers:
John,
<<A hair over 2000 and it jumped to 4000 with a steady and rapid advance
to the peg, a little over 7000. The error is constant through out the
scale from startup to shutdown.>>
Before you send the tack back you might want to check other causes. It
sounds as if your new tach is susceptible to engine noise. Try some
filtering techniques remembering this is more art than science:
1) RF bypass ceramic capacitors. Two at the tach terminals, one from
+12 terminal to ground terminal and the other from the tach lead
terminal to the ground terminal. First try 0.001 microfarads. If that
doesn't work then 0.01 and if that isn't enough then 0.1 microfarad.
Don't know the mechanical structure of the UMA terminals but you can
just solder the larger capacitors onto the leads of the smaller as you
work your way up.
2) Try similar filter bypassing from the tach source to a nearby ground.
3) 3 wire Shielded cable with the shield grounded at one end only,
probably the engine end would be best.
If all this fails, then you probably need a different brand of tach
which is less vulnerable to electrical noise.
Good luck,
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Don't put up with that! There's probably a zillion places elsewhere to find
that info. Here's a couple I favor:
http://www.aeroplanner.com/
http://www.michigan.gov/aero/1,1607,7-145-6777_7036---,00.html
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Airnav.com
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> For those of you that have been using Airnav.com to look up different
> airports, it appears they are going to a List-for-fee type service. I have
> gotten 4 notices that unless I send them ongoing payments, they are going
> to drop Indian Springs airport off their listing. So don't be surprised if
> many of the airports you used to find on their website are no longer
there.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Your My Hero |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hi Mike,
So sorry about that! I just looked at the first picture really quickly ...
now that I'm home, I can take a longer look. I had to scram from the office
by 2 so I could collect my son before the gummint got him! :-)
I'll take a second look and write back again - again, sorry about the
too-quick reply.
best,
Cory
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hey John,
> You should put some kind of a Generic Apology in your
"signature"... because you can't please ALL the people ALL the time... He he
he
>
> I sent some pictures to that lady...but she told me to finish my
plane....?
>
> I told her she obviously didn't check my web site like I told
her....I'm ready for engine break-in and taxi testing....Oh well,
Whatever...
>
> I'm SORRY , but,
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> ---
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap
> and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Your My Hero |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
"signature"... because you can't please ALL the people ALL the time...
He he he
Hi Mike/All:
Seriously, I do not think it would help my situation. Seems no matter
what I post, somebody sorely disagrees. I spend more time thinking
about how my posts will affect others more than I do what I am
addressing.
Reckon I need to back off and observe from the distance. Got a lot of
things going now and need to spend more time doing them than reading
this builders list.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Before you send the tack back you might want to check other causes.
| If all this fails, then you probably need a different brand of tach
| which is less vulnerable to electrical noise.
| Tom Kuffel
Hi Tom/Gang:
Too late Brother. The tach is on its way to Corona, CA. I order from
Acft Spruce. The item comes from Griffin, GA, 150 miles away. The
item doesn't work. I have to pay to have it shipped to the other side
of the country. hehehe
I ordered another tach, identical to the one that was inop. This
particular UMA is a dedicated model for the 912 series Rotax engines.
If, for some reason, I get the same symptoms from the replacement tach
as I did the original tach, I will send it back and buy a Rotax 2 1/4"
tach like the one I wore out and pulled out last Friday. It worked
great for many hours.
UMA has a "support" line to help folks that have problems with their
products. Before I send the second one back, I will contact UMA.
Thanks for all the help, Tom. Got to get things in order to fly in
July. Well before that too. Plan to fly to Lakeland, then MV, then
turn around, load the airplane and head for Whitefish, MT, and Alaska.
:-) That is me smiling. I am happy when I have good flying trips
planned and waiting to be executed. Talked to my buddy, JD Smith, in
North Pole, AK, last week. He is aware that there will be more than
me coming up in the unorganized gaggle from the lower 48. Said he'd
get the grill out and be waiting on us to arrive Bradley Sky Ranch,
North Pole, AK.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Update and Mods.. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
Don,
What can I say ... very impressive design changes and craftsmanship!
Actually, not to worry, Dennis doesn't cringe over such things. Things that
have caused Dennis to cringe have been things like a VW installed in a Kolb
Flyer. Yes that's right - not a Soob in an UltraStar (although that does
carry some cringe factor too) - but a Flyer. Luckily I talked him about of
the VW, but lo and behold next time I visited he had 4 Chrysler West Bend
engines installed. Just had to have 4 cylinders, it would seem.
Reminiscent of that game wack-a-mole ... kept bopping away at the cylinders
and they would just pop up elsewhere else! Listening to Aubrey Radford talk
about his flying at SNF caused me to cringe, to say nothing about hearing
about what happened later. Oh yea, watching that old Kolb video with the
aerobatics causes me to cringe too.
The FireFly was just an original FireStar attacked by a huge pair of snips.
Homer's turn to cringe! Engine was too tough to cut, so we kept that
intact.
Thanks for the FF tour!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Update and Mods..
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Well everyone.....I have updated my Website a little..to reflect the mods
> that are taking place.
> Here is a link to page 14...the enclosure page..showing the method I used
to
> enclose the upper rear half of the cage..and the 10 gallon Challenger tank
> is installed on page 15. The single strut mod is on a page labled strut
mods
> . Menu is on the bottom of each page.
>
>
> ...My apoligies to Dennis Souder who's work on designing this bird still
has
> not been equaled in this industry. It probably makes Dennis cringe when he
> sees a great airplane like the FireFly all messed up like this..If I
> designed this airplane..it probably would make me feel that away!...So
> Dennis..you better not look at these pages pard. You have been awfully
> helpful, cordial and respectful to me..and I think you designed the best
> ultralight in the industry!...and...I believe it still is even after
several
> years! Hard to believe no body has done it since.
>
>
> here is a link to page 14
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/enclosure.htm
>
>
> Don G
>
>
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