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1. 05:48 AM - Re: Lesson Learned - 912 (johnjung@compusenior.com)
2. 07:19 AM - Email and Spam (dama)
3. 09:58 AM - Re: Email and Spam (G. T. Alexander, Jr.)
4. 12:10 PM - Robert Laird's Friend's Crash (John Hauck)
5. 01:02 PM - Rivets (Larry Bourne)
6. 01:24 PM - Re: Rivets (John Hauck)
7. 01:52 PM - Hobbs (Mike Pierzina)
8. 04:04 PM - Airplane attacks truck (Mike Pierzina)
9. 05:24 PM - Re: Hobbs (Richard Pike)
10. 05:26 PM - Kolb History (John Hauck)
11. 05:30 PM - Re: Kolb History (John Hauck)
12. 05:58 PM - Re: Email and Spam (Richard Pike)
13. 06:09 PM - Re: Rivets (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
14. 06:27 PM - Kolb History (tom coggin)
15. 07:13 PM - Re: Kolb History (George Bass)
16. 07:21 PM - Re: Email and Spam (dama)
17. 07:23 PM - Re: Kolb History (John Hauck)
18. 07:26 PM - Re: Hobbs (James and Cathy Tripp)
19. 08:30 PM - Re: Rivets (Bob Bean)
20. 09:04 PM - Re: Hobbs (Richard Pike)
21. 09:07 PM - Re: Kolb History (Richard Pike)
22. 09:46 PM - Re: Rivets (Larry Bourne)
23. 10:26 PM - Re: Mail (DAquaNut@aol.com)
24. 11:14 PM - Re: Mail (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Lesson Learned - 912 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
Group,
As Don pointed out, this problem is not limited to 912's. From my
experience, gaps as small as .022 can be too big for 277's, 377's and
point ignition 503's. They need to be set to .015, not .020. The book
says from .015 to .020, but if set to .020, it won't take long for the
electrode to erode .002. Then they could be hard to start.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
Hello all, after reading about how spammers "harvest" websites for addresses. I
tried eliminating all of the "@" signs in the database. However, the email addresses
seem to still work. Anyone know the trick here to what I am trying to
do?
Thanks,
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Kip:
Contact me off line. We'll get it fixed.
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of dama
Subject: Kolb-List: Email and Spam
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
Hello all, after reading about how spammers "harvest" websites for
addresses. I tried eliminating all of the "@" signs in the database.
However, the email addresses seem to still work. Anyone know the trick here
to what I am trying to do?
Thanks,
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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| Subject: | Robert Laird's Friend's Crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Robert/All:
I read the story of your friend's flight from up north to Texas. That
was indeed one of the longest 1250 mile flights on record. Seems like
the weather and extreme cold ate him and his time up.
While looking at your site I also read the story of your other
friend's crash. I was looking at this picture
http://rtlaird.ath.cx:99/Aviation/RicksCrash/default.htm
trying to figure out why the pilot decided to land under those power
lines and through those pine trees.
Some times it is difficult to know what the terrain and vegetation
situation is from 500 feet. Looking at the table top area that the
engine failure and subsequent crash occurred, was wondering why the
pilot chose that particular route of flight.
I am not trying to sharp shoot your man. Just curious why he made the
decisions he made.
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Where can I order the wide head aluminum pop rivets for the wing fabric ??
Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
fabric ?? Lar.
Larry/All:
Try Jim and Dondi Miller: http://www.aircrafttechsupport.com/
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Today I added a Cig lighter socket, for my GPS power source...and I installed
my Hobbs meter.
I thought I was going to hook it up to my Ducati dual ignition, but when I
turned the key to "both" nothing was "hot" except the main power source.
I check the achives but didn't really find anything. Some people said they
were going to hook theirs up to the ignition but I didn't hear how it turned
out.
Anybody got any ideas?
I guess I'll be checking some of the catalogs...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
---
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Airplane attacks truck |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey John/ all,
Speaking of crashes....
Check out the guys haulin A** out of the way...
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/3102L.jpg
Hey John, I would have sent it directly to you , but I've had trouble in the
past...
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
---
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
I hooked mine up by using a microswitch clamped to a carb boot, and a
little lever that turns the microswitch off and on as the oil injection
lever moves off idle. No hobbs time at idle, (I don't care) but it comes on
as soon as you give the engine some gas (assuming the master switch is on).
So it takes having the master on, and the throttle advanced to get the
hobbs to come on.
Picture at this link.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg8.htm
Before this, I had the microswitch set up so that it had a little vane
sticking out into the wind, the hobbs came on when I hit 25-30 mph. That
was OK too.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 04:51 PM 3/20/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
>Hey Guys,
> Today I added a Cig lighter socket, for my GPS power
> source...and I installed my Hobbs meter.
> I thought I was going to hook it up to my Ducati dual ignition, but
> when I turned the key to "both" nothing was "hot" except the main power
> source.
>
> I check the achives but didn't really find anything. Some people
> said they were going to hook theirs up to the ignition but I didn't hear
> how it turned out.
>
> Anybody got any ideas?
>
> I guess I'll be checking some of the catalogs...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
>
>---
>My Web Site:
>http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
>Sometimes you just have to take the leap
>and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
Got in the mood. Scanned and uploaded a few more historical photos.
This was on completion of the first flight of Cuz'n P'fer, July 1987.
That's my big Brother Jim congratulating me for not busting my ass or
my airplane. Wasn't long after this photo was taken that things
started getting updated on Cuz. Number 1: The top strobe mount on
the engine stress cracked and fell off in short order. The original
1" aluminum gear legs were replaced with 1 1/8" Twinstar legs. The
wheel pants were removed. They were supposed to help me fly faster,
keep the cow crap off the airplane and me. All they did was fill up
the aft part of the pants with cow crap. The plastic Azuza wheels
were extremely flexible, flexing into and rubbing away the fiberglass
wheel pants. The overly long pitot tube was shortened up
considerably. The reason I started out with the long tube was to get
as clean a pitot reading as possible. I am sure that little exercise
was an overkill.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/FS%201st%20Flt%201987/First%20Flt%20July%201987.jpg
Bert Howland's last Sun and Fun, 1994.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Howlands/Bert%20Howland%20S&F%201994.jpg
Bert and Ellen Howland, S&F 1994. That is a Corning Ultralight Flight
Farm cup in front of her.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Howlands/Bert%20Howland%20S&F%201994.jpg
Spent the night here on my second flight to the NE. Also slept in the
same spot on the first trip north, 1988. This is a hayfield next to
I-81 near Dublin, VA.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Hay%20Fld%20Near%20Dublin,%20VA,%201989.jpg
This was the camping area beside the airstrip at the Flight Farm,
1989. In front of my FS is an ice chest, bivy tent (commonly referred
to as my body bag), and a Jeep provided by Doug Johnston, a Vietnam
Vet I had met the year before. He lives in Beaver Dam, NY, a few
miles down the road.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Flt%20Farm%201989.jpg
This clipping was cut from the Oshkosh newspaper. That's me and Cuz'n
P'fer doing our thing on downwind (to the north) along Hwy 41 for the
UL airstrip. The caption says something about flying in early morning
and late evening when the wind is calm. No one ever told me and Cuz
about those flight restrictions on calm air.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Front%20Page.jpg
Found a diner near Frederick, MD, and a hayfield across the street.
Hauck gets hot chow.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Hayfield%20Near%20Frederick,%20MD,%201989.jpg
Who says you can't fly a FS cross country and be comfortable. These
hangers had been bulldozed when I landed there last July. That little
green bag is what I carried my clothes in. The seat is propped up so
I can get into the cargo compartment. Yes, a cargo compartment for my
cargo. The little red and white thing on the back of that fiberglass
jon boat seat is the small Halon fire extinguisher.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Linden,%20MI%201989.jpg
How small Cuz and I were out there in this big country. Here is Cuz
in the middle of a large concrete airbase, abandoned some time ago
near Racco, MI, just a few miles south Whitefish Bay, Lake Superior,
MI. John Williamson and I overflew Racco on our flight through this
area last July.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Racco,%20MI%201989.jpg
Horseshoe Falls, Niagara Falls, NY and Ontario, under the wing of
Cuz'n P'fer, 1989. The photo is an accurate description of the
weather and lighting conditions the day this pic was shot.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/FS%20Over%20Niagra%201989.jpg
Me and Cuz at Wind Star AP, MD, near Baltimore, MD, and Chesapeake
Bay. Our last landing before arriving at Homer Kolb's in Spring City,
PA, 1989.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Osh%201989/Windstar%20Avn,%20MD,%201989.jpg
If for some reason you do not think Kolb history should be presented
on the Kolb List, please hit your delete key. Then crawl back in your
hole. Just kidding. A little black humor for Jack Hart. He needs a
shot of my black humor every once in a while to keep his ticker going.
hehehe Please do not take this serious. It is in no way intended to
be presented that way. I find if I get too serious I get bored and
depressed.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Flight
| Farm cup in front of her.
|
|
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Howlands/Bert%20Howland%20S&F%201994.jpg
|
Hi Ya'll:
My first screw up today. Well the second. The first was getting out
of bed this morning.
The above url should have been:
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Howlands/Bert%20and%20Ellen%20Howland%20S&F%201994.jpg
20,000 xin loi's GI.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
Along this same line, if I type the e-mail address of any of the listers
into my goggle search engine, it gives me a bunch of hits out of the Kolb
archives. Seems to me that our archives are a treasure trove of
spam-friendly resources/addresses. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue how to
suggest a fix.
Matt Dralle? Ur thoughts on this?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 12:58 PM 3/20/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
>
>Kip:
>Contact me off line. We'll get it fixed.
>George Alexander
>http://gtalexander.home.att.net
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of dama
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Email and Spam
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
>
>Hello all, after reading about how spammers "harvest" websites for
>addresses. I tried eliminating all of the "@" signs in the database.
>However, the email addresses seem to still work. Anyone know the trick here
>to what I am trying to do?
>Thanks,
>Kip
>
>http://www.springeraviation.net/
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Lar,
I just ordered some from a place here in Prescott Valley called
"Fastenall." According to everything I can figure, they're the same as Acft
Spruce's rivets that costs $78 for 500. I'm paying $19.00 for 500 and no
shipping. They're supposed to be in by this Tuesday so I can let you know
more then.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Rivets
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Where can I order the wide head aluminum pop rivets for the wing fabric ??
Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "tom coggin" <motniggo@localnet.com>
Get a life. hahaha. you need help! hehehe
DO archive under Hauck, John.
Tom Coggin
Cullman, Alabama
256 775-0383
Firefly, ultralight
RV-6 N112WA
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
John H;
Well, I for one, am pretty damned incensed at
the blatant use of this list for your personal
display of historical adventures in a Kolb.
.
.
.
.
WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG.? AND,
where's the rest of your adventures? I had
the very distinct and pleasurable honor to
meet with Adriel Heisey last year, and altho
many of his photos are published, I see no
real difference in the quality of many of your
pictures.
Please continue to entertain us,
George
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| Subject: | Re: Email and Spam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
Along with some ideas from George, I have remove the "link" capability of
the email addresses. It makes from more work to cut and paste and remove the
(X) but I do not want to contribute to anyone else's spam count. Sort of
takes away some needed "color" from the list as well...
Oh well, hope that it helps.
Also, and I hope to not jinx myself but I am close to arranging for some air
to air shots with either a Stearman or Waco with the Firestar here
shortly...fingers crossed.
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb History |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| the blatant use of this list for your personal
| display of historical adventures in a Kolb.
Hi You All:
Seems I am getting some responses. There are real live people out
there on the other end of the cable.
Every once in a while I get a spurt of ambition and get in the old
pics. I have bunches of them. My problem is I get back into them and
spend the night reliving all those old, exciting times.
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Hey Richard,
I think my EIS has an hour meter that works when the engine is running so I
want something else to record actual flying time. I 'm looking for a way to
get my hobbs to work kind of like you did with some kind of wind vane
connected to a micro switch and then to the hobbs. Why did you switch to a
different method and how did you set up your wind vane?
James Tripp
FSII, Finished Painting
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <rwpike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hobbs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
>
> I hooked mine up by using a microswitch clamped to a carb boot, and a
> little lever that turns the microswitch off and on as the oil injection
> lever moves off idle. No hobbs time at idle, (I don't care) but it comes
on
> as soon as you give the engine some gas (assuming the master switch is
on).
> So it takes having the master on, and the throttle advanced to get the
> hobbs to come on.
> Picture at this link.
> http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg8.htm
> Before this, I had the microswitch set up so that it had a little vane
> sticking out into the wind, the hobbs came on when I hit 25-30 mph. That
> was OK too.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
>
> At 04:51 PM 3/20/04 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
> >
> >Hey Guys,
> > Today I added a Cig lighter socket, for my GPS power
> > source...and I installed my Hobbs meter.
> > I thought I was going to hook it up to my Ducati dual ignition, but
> > when I turned the key to "both" nothing was "hot" except the main power
> > source.
> >
> > I check the achives but didn't really find anything. Some people
> > said they were going to hook theirs up to the ignition but I didn't hear
> > how it turned out.
> >
> > Anybody got any ideas?
> >
> > I guess I'll be checking some of the catalogs...
> >
> > Gotta Fly...
> > Mike in MN
> >
> >
> >---
> >My Web Site:
> >http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
> >
> >
> >Sometimes you just have to take the leap
> >and build your wings on the way down...
> > Gotta Fly...
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I can second that...have a Fastenal only 15 minutes away and their aluminum
rivets are in my plane. Price is right too. -BB
Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
>Lar,
> I just ordered some from a place here in Prescott Valley called
>"Fastenall."
>Do Not Archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Rivets
>
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>>Where can I order the wide head aluminum pop rivets for the wing fabric ??
>>
>>
>Lar.
>
>
>>Larry Bourne
>>Palm Springs, CA
>>Building Kolb Mk III
>>N78LB Vamoose
>>www.gogittum.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
I switched because the wind vane looked cheesy, and because I was
fiddling with the engine so much, that the "In-Flight/wind" hobbs time was
probably not very accurate of engine time, which was what I wanted.
Just get a little Radio Shack micro switch and solder a piece of thin brass
sheet to the little arm that sticks out and make a bracket to hang the switch
so the brass sticks into the wind. I think the brass sheet part was about 1/2"
X 2.5" long, doesn't take much to close those little switches.
I attached it to a bracket mounted on the radiator.
Ran a hot wire to the Hobbs, and the Hobbs ground to the switch, and then
to ground.
The microswitch is about 3/4" square, 3/16" thick,
has a little arm that sticks out of one side, 3 solder lugs that stick out
the other side,
and 2 little holes to screw it to a bracket.
Since I don't know the part#, that's the best I can do.
Someone on the list had a post a couple years ago about using a diode to do
the same
thing electronically, probably in the archives.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:26 PM 3/20/04 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
><jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
>
>Hey Richard,
> I think my EIS has an hour meter that works when the engine is running so I
>want something else to record actual flying time. I 'm looking for a way to
>get my hobbs to work kind of like you did with some kind of wind vane
>connected to a micro switch and then to the hobbs. Why did you switch to a
>different method and how did you set up your wind vane?
>
>James Tripp
>FSII, Finished Painting
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <rwpike@charter.net>
And the problem with that would be????
(Beats watching NASCAR on Speedvision)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 09:23 PM 3/20/04 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
><snip>
>Every once in a while I get a spurt of ambition and get in the old
>pics. I have bunches of them. My problem is I get back into them and
>spend the night reliving all those old, exciting times.
>
>Take care,
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hrrumphf ! ! ! Found Fastenal OK, but no addresses, and I'm not real
interested in buying their stocks. Dunno.........?? Do not
Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rivets
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> I can second that...have a Fastenal only 15 minutes away and their
aluminum
> rivets are in my plane. Price is right too. -BB
>
> Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
<pelletier@cableone.net>
> >
> >Lar,
> > I just ordered some from a place here in Prescott Valley called
> >"Fastenall."
> >Do Not Archive
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Rivets
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >>
> >>Where can I order the wide head aluminum pop rivets for the wing fabric
??
> >>
> >>
> >Lar.
> >
> >
> >>Larry Bourne
> >>Palm Springs, CA
> >>Building Kolb Mk III
> >>N78LB Vamoose
> >>www.gogittum.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Lar,
I did not send an E-mail with attachment
Ed
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Didn't figger ya did............just bein' sure. I deleted that right after
it came in. Sneaky S.O.B.'s..............I'd like to get my paws on some of
those guys' necks.................! ! ! Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mail
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Lar,
>
> I did not send an E-mail with attachment
>
> Ed
>
>
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