---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/25/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:38 AM - Re: Fathers Day fly-in (Denny Rowe) 2. 02:58 PM - FireFly Is Ready To Go (Jack & Louise Hart) 3. 03:23 PM - Monument Valley (WillUribe@aol.com) 4. 03:44 PM - Re: Monument Valley (John Willamson) 5. 03:54 PM - Kit 2 (Paul Petty) 6. 04:08 PM - Re: Monument Valley (John Hauck) 7. 04:33 PM - Sport Pilot Update (Jon Croke) 8. 04:42 PM - Re: Kit 2 (WillUribe@aol.com) 9. 07:21 PM - Re: FireFly Is Ready To Go (Christopher Armstrong) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:52 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fathers Day fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Do not archive Sorry List and Terry, This last post was suposed to be a reply to the local Boy Scout Rep, Terry Tauge, I did not realize I was replying to a Kolb list message. Wrong Terry! Sorry for the cornfusion. Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fathers Day fly-in > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > > Terry, > I am trying to figure out a date for the Aviation program. > This summer is shaping up to be incredibly busy and with school going into > June time is really tight. > I should be in touch with you guys in the next week with some possible > dates. > > Sorry about all the inconvenience. > > Denny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry" > To: "kolb-list" > Subject: Kolb-List: Fathers Day fly-in > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry > > > > Eugene, Bob, Eugene, Richard, Denny and all others, > > > > I will act as the contact person if that's what the gang wants. The > > Wellsville Fathers Day Fly-In is a long established event that runs the > > whole weekend. We could meet there and then if possible make at journey > > to Homer's. There is a good stop off airport on the way at Smoketown, > > Lancaster County that is UL friendly. > > > > If you want more information on Wellsville go to their web page at > > footlightranch.com and hit Mason-Dixion Ultralight Fly-in or the > > others. The information is for last years fly-in which was canceled > > because of weather, but you can explore the facilities available and get > > the data about the airstrip there. > > I know they would welcome a good group of new Kolb's arriving there! > > > > Terry - FireFly #95 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:42 PM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Is Ready To Go --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart FireFlyers & Kolbers, A month has gone by since the last flight of the FireFly. I went up to the Perryville Airport (k02) to finish up re assembly. The airport has been closed for runway and taxiway repairs. It just reopened yesterday, but the wind was too high to fly. It started to rain, but it was warm so as I waited for the weather to clear. I gathered up tools, washed the Firefly and swept out the hangar. While doing so I heard one jet land and taxi over to Saberliner's repair facility. My hanger is on the back side so I can not see the runway, but I heard another jet. When I looked up and out the open hangar door, I saw a F15 slowly fly by at about 500 feet. I walked out and watched it bank to the east. Then I walked to the end of the hangar row so that I could see it slowly continue at low altitude over the Mississippi River into Illinois. It was about this time, I thought maybe it was going to land at K02. And sure enough he turned base and overshot final approach and had to rack it back to get lined up. He over flew a third of the runway before touch down and I thought he would do a touch and go, but he laid on the brakes and got it stopped about 200 yards before he ran out of runway. He had flattened the tires on the main gear. Saberliner's crash truck drove down to the jet. The pilot shut down the engines, popped the canopy and climbed down. Then the emergency vehicles, fire, ambulance and sheriff came. The airport manager came by and told me the story. Two F15s were out and about when one had a fire indicator light come on. They were diverted to K02. The one with the problem was the first one I heard, and he landed with out any problem. But the one that I watched was the wing man. They closed the airport and the sheriff stayed to keep anyone away from the plane on the runway because it was armed with missiles. He was going to have to stay until the military showed up with security, spares and repair personnel. While I was in the main office washing up, they called over to see if they could get 18,000 pounds of jet fuel, but there was only 1,000 pounds left in the tank. Maybe tomorrow the airport will be open again. If you would like to see some of the repairs I made, I put up some photos and description at: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly103.html Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:39 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Greetings, Looks like I will make the Monument Valley fly-in. My work schedule has me in Buffalo, NY the week of the fly-in. The plan is return to El Paso on Friday and depart in my FireStar on Saturday. I had to start preparing for the flight right now because I will be working out of town from now until the fly-in. Next week I will be in Mississippi for two weeks. After that I'm scheduled to be in Linden, NJ and then Pittsburgh. I have been doing the annual inspection on my FireStar in parts whenever I have time. So far I have not found anything out of the ordinary, replaced a landing light bulb, sent the strobe for repairs and purchased a sheet of lexan to replace the windscreen. Hopefully I will not have any problems renewing my medical after the surgery. Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive My apologies to the people who don't like posts on the Monument Valley fly-in. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:31 PM PST US From: "John Willamson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Monument Valley --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" Hello Will and other Kolb Flyers, No apology necessary for posting about the Kolb Monument Valley Gathering. Glad to hear you are planning on attending. As soon as we get this Sun'nFun thing out of the way, a lot of us can get serious about the MV trip. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 528 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:26 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: Kit 2 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Hi Kolbers, Just had to share my excitement with you fine people, TNK shipped my fuselage kit today! The folks up there are nothing short of excellent. Travis informed me of some extra parts that other Kolbra buyers were shorted and explained what to look for and they figured the extra material needed for the flaps I plan to put on Ms. Dixie. I needed some extra tubing because of the wing tip mods so I was able to get that packed in the crate. Travis was talking to me on the phone with a cordless screw driver in one hand taking the top off the crate as we spoke and ordering lunch at the same time to add the needed material. He also was very proud of this shipment as he painstakingly packed everything personally. He made me fell real good when he said (with phone in one ear and cordless screwdriver in hands) "Ya know Paul, these guys really pour a lot of love and sweat-n-soul into these fuselages" By the way Travis is now re-subscribed to the list. Sorry to blow your cover bro.... Perhaps we could get Travis to join in with a post from time to time about what's going on at the factory. They sound pretty busy if you ask me.Linda phoned me later to let me know the freight company had picked her up (the kit that is) and gave me a tracking number. Now I have to wait and wonder what she (the kit) is going through in transit. Travis assured me that unless some underpaid forklift driver sticks a fork through the side of the crate,it should arrive in good shape and that it could withstand being dropped because of the way they pack the kit. I have no doubt... But I know freight companies and how they rapidly move freight from truck to truck and town to town. One thing I can say is that when you receive your kit or shipment from any carrier, if there is any damage to the carton or crate, note it on the freight or waybill before you sign for it. Also have the driver call the hub and note the damage. My first kit had damage and it was a pain but the motor company cut me a check for the damaged part.Which by the way was more than the cost of shipping. So now I sit and wait.Headed to the shop with new belts for the belt sander to dress and install the false ribs and start on the drag strut. Charley just phoned me from the airport and made it home from Washington DC in the Falcon 900 to Mississippi in 1 hour 50 minutes... I said "you should be ashamed of yourself" :-) I made this post rather long so that if any lurkers looking into buying a Kolb aircraft kit, perhaps they may feel the same excitement that I have had today. Sorry for any misspelling or wrong English... and I think this post is archive worthy in advance. Yes I'm a happy camper... Hopefully under Ms. Dixie's wing some day...... ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:21 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | As soon as we get this Sun'nFun thing out of the way, a lot of us can get | serious about the MV trip. | | | John Williamson Wil, John W., Jack Hart, and all the rest of you all: I got a big box of parts from Travis Brown, Parts Man Extrodinaire, to help get me started and through my annual which will also get me ready for Sun and Fun, MV, and Alaska. Looking forward to S&F, because I always get to see a lot of people that I have met over the years, but the MV trip is something extra special. Hopefully, more of the Kolb List and other Kolbers can make it out to MV for our little unplanned, unorganized, really friendly, get down and get with it flyin. This is the Second Annual Unorganized Kolb Flyin. Anybody and anything is welcome. Bring a smile and get ready to enjoy Kolb flying, building, repairing, wrecking/crashing, covering, painting, adjusting, and on and on for about three or four days. I know there are a lot of people that did not make our flyin last year, will be there this year. Some of them flying from Texas and Louisiana, Gary Haley and John Bickam, the guys that did the Kitty Hawk flight last year. Wish the whole Kolb List could be there so we could put names, faces, airplanes, good feelings and other feeling where they belong. Does that make sense??? I think what I mean is for us to put people, names and faces together and get to know the whole person, rather than an email address on the Internet. Ya'll take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:14 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot Update --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" FYI... There was a Sport Pilot Update announced yesterday by the FAA realyed by USUA... Details are reproduced at www.KolbPilot.com Patience is the virtue...... Jon near Green Bay FS II ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:15 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kit 2 --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Hi Paul, I hope your 2nd kit arrives before I depart Mississippi so I get to help you unpack it. It will be fun to check out your handy work. Regards, Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ do not archive My apologies to the people who feel they need an apology for this email. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Petty Subject: Kolb-List: Kit 2 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Hi Kolbers, Just had to share my excitement with you fine people, TNK shipped my fuselage kit today! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:58 PM PST US From: "Christopher Armstrong" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: FireFly Is Ready To Go --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" I think that it is reasonable for you to limit power not through rpm but through a throttle stop that can not be changed by the pilot in flight. Then you could re-pitch to get decent rpm even though you would be at reduced power. This would be the ultralight legal flight configuration for the aircraft. Limiting power with a throttle stop is just as reasonable as limiting speed by cranking in prop pitch. I think that as long as you can not change it in flight it would be acceptable to the feds. I don't think that you're at a dead end for 103-7 legality yet. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Is Ready To Go --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart FireFlyers & Kolbers, A month has gone by since the last flight of the FireFly. I went up to the Perryville Airport (k02) to finish up re assembly. The airport has been closed for runway and taxiway repairs. It just reopened yesterday, but the wind was too high to fly. It started to rain, but it was warm so as I waited for the weather to clear. I gathered up tools, washed the Firefly and swept out the hangar. While doing so I heard one jet land and taxi over to Saberliner's repair facility. My hanger is on the back side so I can not see the runway, but I heard another jet. When I looked up and out the open hangar door, I saw a F15 slowly fly by at about 500 feet. I walked out and watched it bank to the east. Then I walked to the end of the hangar row so that I could see it slowly continue at low altitude over the Mississippi River into Illinois. It was about this time, I thought maybe it was going to land at K02. And sure enough he turned base and overshot final approach and had to rack it back to get lined up. He over flew a third of the runway before touch down and I thought he would do a touch and go, but he laid on the brakes and got it stopped about 200 yards before he ran out of runway. He had flattened the tires on the main gear. Saberliner's crash truck drove down to the jet. The pilot shut down the engines, popped the canopy and climbed down. Then the emergency vehicles, fire, ambulance and sheriff came. The airport manager came by and told me the story. Two F15s were out and about when one had a fire indicator light come on. They were diverted to K02. The one with the problem was the first one I heard, and he landed with out any problem. But the one that I watched was the wing man. They closed the airport and the sheriff stayed to keep anyone away from the plane on the runway because it was armed with missiles. He was going to have to stay until the military showed up with security, spares and repair personnel. While I was in the main office washing up, they called over to see if they could get 18,000 pounds of jet fuel, but there was only 1,000 pounds left in the tank. Maybe tomorrow the airport will be open again. If you would like to see some of the repairs I made, I put up some photos and description at: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly103.html Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net