Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/12/04


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 05:40 AM -  (robert mason)
     2. 01:16 PM - Re: replacing fuel line  (Mike Pierzina)
     3. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line (John Hauck)
     4. 01:56 PM - replacing fuel line (boyd young)
     5. 01:56 PM - antennas (boyd young)
     6. 02:09 PM - Re: replacing fuel line (WillUribe@aol.com)
     7. 02:21 PM - Transporting Mk3 (Aaron Hollingsworth)
     8. 02:26 PM - Re: replacing fuel line (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
     9. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line (HShack@aol.com)
    10. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line/Neoprene Over Plastic (John Hauck)
    11. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line (jerb)
    12. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line/Neoprene Over Plastic (jerb)
    13. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line (jerb)
    14. 04:26 PM - Re: Homer Kolb and Monument Valley (Jim Clayton)
    15. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: replacing fuel line/Neoprene Over Plastic (John Hauck)
    16. 04:33 PM - Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic (Fackler, Ken)
    17. 04:46 PM - Re: Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic (John Hauck)
    18. 06:30 PM - brake cylinders (bryan green)
    19. 07:08 PM - Off Topic: antennas (The Kuffels)
    20. 07:48 PM - Re: Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic (Fackler, Ken)
    21. 07:52 PM - Re: Transporting Mk3 (Denny Rowe)
    22. 08:11 PM - Re: Transporting Mk3 (Aaron Hollingsworth)
    23. 09:06 PM - Re: Transporting Mk3 (Richard Pike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:40:19 AM PST US
    From: "robert mason" <masonclan@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject:
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "robert mason" <masonclan@sbcglobal.net> Started to look into radio's for my Xtra..anyone out there that has the Xcom 760 or something around the same size! I'm new to the Kolbler group and looking forward to meeting everybody at MV..hopefully I will be able to fly in next year... Robert Mason Simi Valley Ca


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    Time: 01:16:41 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com> Hi, Another thing you can do is Force it onto a Tappered Punch...you can get alittle heat going by twisting while you force it on the tappered whatever. Then hurry and slip it on your fitting... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Do not archive (this message is probly too late) ( no comments on those parking brakes ) --- My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly...


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    Time: 01:50:58 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Gotta Fly... | Mike in MN Mike/Gang: Is it permissible to spit on it? (Let me see............should I put a smiley face or "hehehe" before or after the note after my signature?) On a serious side, I use that method quite a bit when necessary. (Seems like I am digging my hole deeper and deeper.) john h (Watching/waiting for a weather window to head SE for Lakeland. Too many thunder bumpers rolling around my area to leave home.) DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 01:56:55 PM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
    Subject: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> . Is there any "easy" way to slip the line over the various connections? Dang that's hard to do without removing things off the plane. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanx, Bob try some silicone grease on the fittings.... and with a q tip spread some on the inside of the tube.... first make sure it wont cause a problem with the hose. boyd


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    Time: 01:56:58 PM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    "kuffel" <kuffel@cyberport.net>
    Subject: antennas
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> Of course, since you are only transmitting on 118-130(or so) and 144-148 then a multi-element flexible dipole might work quite well. The trapped dipole is mechanically and electronically more complex and less desirable since the critical application is the lower frequency. In other words, aircraft com would suffer the losses and radiation inefficiencies of the traps. Take care, Tom Kuffel tom i have used my dipole antenna and the reception on the fm broadcast band was poor...... so for now i am using the rubberduck, which is working quite well, until i can find an answer to the problems. maybe i can mount the rubberduck in the nose cone with a ground plane. contact with salt lake approach from 60 miles is good with the duck. it will be fun to experiment with a multi stran dipole and see what the results are. the radio uses a sma connector and i would like to adapt it to bnc for quick disconect..... I could slap yeasu for that blunder. boyd


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    Time: 02:09:01 PM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com I dip the fuel line ends in 2 cycle oil -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of boyd young Subject: Kolb-List: replacing fuel line --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> . Is there any "easy" way to slip the line over the various connections? Dang that's hard to do without removing things off the plane. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanx, Bob


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    Time: 02:21:59 PM PST US
    From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
    Subject: Transporting Mk3
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com> Hello all. I sold my MK3 and the new owner plans on renting a trailer to take it home in. I was going to call Kolb to find out what hardware I need to fold the wings and get their recommendation for transport; however, they are closed this week. The plane currently has fixed AN hardware, not the quick pins. I have never folded the wings. Isn't there some sort of brace/holder that goes over the tail boom and holds the wings? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Aaron


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    Time: 02:26:23 PM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> bbrocious asked: << Is there any "easy" way to slip the line over the various connections? >> Bob - Try a little spit on the connector. Fuel hose will slip right on. And speaking of fuel line - What's the recommended best-quality see-thru fuel line available? The original "tygo-thane" clear fuel line supplied with my Kolb has only been in use 2 years, and it's already deteriorating. I found cracks & splits in the hose in several places. And it's not UV damage, because my plane is always hangared. Is the blue fuel line any good? Advice I've collected from this List suggests that black neoprene fuel hose lasts way longer than the clear stuff, but I like to SEE that the fuel is running up the hose to the carbs when I turn on the electric fuel pump, before I hit the starter. That's how I discovered there were cracks in my fuel line - I could see that the gas was not pumping up hill. Appreciate any/all advice. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, Verner-1400, in New Mexico


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    Time: 02:45:37 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 4/12/2004 5:27:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil writes: And speaking of fuel line - What's the recommended best-quality see-thru fuel line available? The original "tygo-thane" clear fuel line supplied with my Kolb has only been in use 2 years, and it's already deteriorating. I found cracks & splits in the hose in several places. And it's not UV damage, because my plane is always hangared. Is the blue fuel line any good? I got some from Mark Smith [on the Fly-UL list]. mark@trikite.com A little expensive, but doesn't seem to deterioate. It will turn a reddish-brown after a while; butyou can still see through it. It's heavy walled enough to use as pulse line. Mine's been on about 3 years. Howard Shackleford FS II SC


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    Time: 02:50:24 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line/Neoprene Over Plastic
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> fuel hose | lasts way longer than the clear stuff, but I like to SEE that the fuel is | running up the hose to the carbs when I turn on the electric fuel pump, | before I hit the starter. | Dennis Kirby Hi Dennis/All: What is the necessity of seeing the fuel in the line? I quit using the "temporary" plastic stuff years ago. I use nothing but premium grade Gates neoprene fuel line. Have no problem with it. It seems to be best available for UV protection. I have had plastic line, inside the fuselage out of the sunlight or any light, last for several years. But, up top, it quickly deteriorates. Neoprene is cheap, locally purchased, last a long time, and probably won't surprise you like the plastic stuff, by falling off the carb when you get ready to fly. If your airplane has been outside, your plastic line probably has UV damage. Take care, john h (Still do not know why the UL parts folks push the plastic stuff and not "real" fuel hose.


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    Time: 03:03:35 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Fuel Line - I ordered the Bing Blue alcohol resistant fuel line from Aircraft Spruce. Cost is about 79 cents a foot. Note they sell some other stuff, get the Bing fuel line. It's held up a couple years now just fine and were in a metroplex area where they have to pump reformulated stuff. There are some other brand blue stuff out there but it doesn't hold up - shrinks and gets hard after a short time. Haven't had much better luck with the Tygon stuff Lockwood sells. Does about the same thing but takes a little longer. Very pleased with the Bing stuff. By the way it has Bing stamped on it every foot or so. jerb At 10:26 PM 4/12/04 +0100, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM ><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > >bbrocious asked: << Is there any "easy" way >to slip the line over the various connections? >> > >Bob - > >Try a little spit on the connector. Fuel hose will slip right on. > >And speaking of fuel line - What's the recommended best-quality see-thru >fuel line available? The original "tygo-thane" clear fuel line supplied >with my Kolb has only been in use 2 years, and it's already deteriorating. >I found cracks & splits in the hose in several places. And it's not UV >damage, because my plane is always hangared. Is the blue fuel line any >good? > >Advice I've collected from this List suggests that black neoprene fuel hose >lasts way longer than the clear stuff, but I like to SEE that the fuel is >running up the hose to the carbs when I turn on the electric fuel pump, >before I hit the starter. That's how I discovered there were cracks in my >fuel line - I could see that the gas was not pumping up hill. > >Appreciate any/all advice. > >Dennis Kirby >Mark-3, Verner-1400, in >New Mexico > >


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    Time: 03:29:33 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line/Neoprene Over Plastic
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> John & All At a UL safety seminar about 2 years ago the Pennzoil guy that spoke said there can be a problem using auto fuel line in pre-mix applications - it has something to due with the oil. According to him marine 2-stroke premix applications use a different type hose that the oil doesn't break down. Fire extinguisher ready.... jerb At 04:50 PM 4/12/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > | Advice I've collected from this List suggests that black neoprene >fuel hose >| lasts way longer than the clear stuff, but I like to SEE that the >fuel is >| running up the hose to the carbs when I turn on the electric fuel >pump, >| before I hit the starter. > >| Dennis Kirby > >Hi Dennis/All: > >What is the necessity of seeing the fuel in the line? > >I quit using the "temporary" plastic stuff years ago. I use nothing >but premium grade Gates neoprene fuel line. Have no problem with it. >It seems to be best available for UV protection. > >I have had plastic line, inside the fuselage out of the sunlight or >any light, last for several years. But, up top, it quickly >deteriorates. > >Neoprene is cheap, locally purchased, last a long time, and probably >won't surprise you like the plastic stuff, by falling off the carb >when you get ready to fly. > >If your airplane has been outside, your plastic line probably has UV >damage. > >Take care, > >john h (Still do not know why the UL parts folks push the plastic >stuff and not "real" fuel hose. > >


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    Time: 03:31:42 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Howard, Note if yours shows signs of shrinking most noticeable by connectors or if it has gotten stiff. jerb At 05:45 PM 4/12/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com > >In a message dated 4/12/2004 5:27:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, >Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil writes: >And speaking of fuel line - What's the recommended best-quality see-thru >fuel line available? The original "tygo-thane" clear fuel line supplied >with my Kolb has only been in use 2 years, and it's already deteriorating. >I found cracks & splits in the hose in several places. And it's not UV >damage, because my plane is always hangared. Is the blue fuel line any >good? > > >I got some from Mark Smith [on the Fly-UL list]. mark@trikite.com > >A little expensive, but doesn't seem to deterioate. It will turn a >reddish-brown after a while; butyou can still see through it. It's heavy >walled >enough to use as pulse line. Mine's been on about 3 years. > >Howard Shackleford >FS II >SC > >


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    Time: 04:26:17 PM PST US
    From: Jim Clayton <jspc78@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb and Monument Valley
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton <jspc78@yahoo.com> Hi John/All It would be great to see Homer as well as Bruce Chesnut at MV. I am unable to make it out to Sun N Fun this year, could you please pass on my regards to Bruce, and everyone else at TNK: they would be most welcome out at MV! -Jim Jim Clayton California Mark-3X, 912ULS, Building --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Everyone: I just got off the telephone with Homer Kolb. <snip> Would also like to give Bruce Chesnut, owner of The New Kolb Aircraft Company a personal invite to attend.


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    Time: 04:27:48 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: replacing fuel line/Neoprene Over Plastic
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> spoke said | there can be a problem using auto fuel line in pre-mix applications - it | has something to due with the oil. | jerb jerb/Gang: That's not a problem for most of us now that do not premix. If there is, in fact, a problem, marine grade neoprene fuel line is available at any marine shop, marina, or marine mail order parts houses. Usually, this hose has much thicker wall that does a better job of making extremely sharp bends without crimping shut. Another advantage of the neoprene over plastic is strength. Most neoprene fuel hose has additional braid to increase strength. Take care, john h


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    Time: 04:33:07 PM PST US
    From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > john h (Still do not know why the UL parts folks push the plastic > stuff and not "real" fuel hose. I do not claim to know the answer, but I have a theory. If your primer or fuel pump is leaking, it might help to be able to spot the bubbles forming in the line. No flame intended, just a-wonderin'. -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI


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    Time: 04:46:34 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> primer or | fuel pump is leaking, it might help to be able to spot the bubbles forming | in the line. No flame intended, just a-wonderin'. | | -Ken Fackler Hi Ken/Gang: Seems I have had air in the lines since Ultrastar days and Cuyunas. If air is entering the fuel line, why isn't fuel leaking back out when the engine and fuel pump are shut down? Take care, john h


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    Time: 06:30:01 PM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: brake cylinders
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Safe flying to all those going to s$f. I have two matco brake cylinders for heel brakes that I would like to trade for one stick mount. Any takers? DO NOT ARCHIVE. Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS


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    Time: 07:08:34 PM PST US
    From: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
    Subject: Off Topic: antennas
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net> Boyd, do not archive <<my dipole antenna and the reception on the fm broadcast band was poor>> Maybe a 3 wire dipole? A lop-sided ferris wheel image comes to mind. <<radio uses a sma connector and i would like to adapt it to bnc>> Don't think I have that adaptor in my junk box. Mouser [ www.mouser.com 800/346-6873] will sell you a Bomar one, stock number 678-9313505 for $8.76 (or an Amphenol 523-901-166 for $35.97). Sounds as if mounting the Vertex special ducky on a ground plane might be the easiest and best approach. Tom


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    Time: 07:48:05 PM PST US
    From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> John Hauck wrote: > If air is entering the fuel line, why isn't fuel leaking back out when > the engine and fuel pump are shut down? I dunno, maybe 'cause a fuel molecule is bigger than an air molecule? Or like putting a whole in a straw, the air would leak IN and the fuel would run DOWN the inside of the tube, away from the incoming air? Shucks, this is way beyond me! But like I said, I didn't claim to have an answer, just a theory. ;-) -K ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Neoprene fuel line versus clear plastic > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > | I do not claim to know the answer, but I have a theory. If your > primer or > forming > > Hi Ken/Gang: > > Seems I have had air in the lines since Ultrastar days and Cuyunas. > > If air is entering the fuel line, why isn't fuel leaking back out when > the engine and fuel pump are shut down? > > Take care, > > john h


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    Time: 07:52:26 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Transporting Mk3
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com> > > Hello all. > > > I sold my MK3 and the new owner plans on renting a trailer to take it home > in. I was going to call Kolb to find out what hardware I need to fold the > wings and get their recommendation for transport; however, they are closed > this week. The plane currently has fixed AN hardware, not the quick pins. I > have never folded the wings. Isn't there some sort of brace/holder that goes > over the tail boom and holds the wings? Any input will be greatly > appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > Aaron > > Aaron, The Mk 3 has the wing fold fitting built right into the Boom tube under the front of the horizontal stabilizers. However, I would recommend removing the wings completely for traveling. This eliminates the need for a boom support that you must have with the wings folded and it also makes the plane a lot easier to handle as a Mk-3 with the wings folded is EXTREAMLY heavy on the tail and hard to handle. Removing the wings only requires removal of one additional bolt per wing and allows for a much more securable aircraft when hauling. Disconnect the aileron and flap push pull control rods, than support the wing while taking off the lift strut, set the tip down on a pillow and remove the main spar attatch bolt and the rear spar attatch bolt. Presto you have a wing ready to stow. Good luck on your future project and we are sorry to see you leaving Kolbdom. Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA


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    Time: 08:11:01 PM PST US
    From: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com>
    Subject: Transporting Mk3
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com> Denny, Thanks for the advice / info. I've loved my Mk3 and can easily see getting another one sometime when I can afford more than one plane. The new owners is looking into renting an enclosed trailer for the trip, do you have any suggestions on how to best store/secure the wings (when off) and the plane to best avoid shifting during a trailer ride? I hope the trailer has good tie-down attachments build into the walls. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Rowe Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transporting Mk3 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com> > > Hello all. > > > I sold my MK3 and the new owner plans on renting a trailer to take it home > in. I was going to call Kolb to find out what hardware I need to fold the > wings and get their recommendation for transport; however, they are closed > this week. The plane currently has fixed AN hardware, not the quick pins. I > have never folded the wings. Isn't there some sort of brace/holder that goes > over the tail boom and holds the wings? Any input will be greatly > appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > Aaron > > Aaron, The Mk 3 has the wing fold fitting built right into the Boom tube under the front of the horizontal stabilizers. However, I would recommend removing the wings completely for traveling. This eliminates the need for a boom support that you must have with the wings folded and it also makes the plane a lot easier to handle as a Mk-3 with the wings folded is EXTREAMLY heavy on the tail and hard to handle. Removing the wings only requires removal of one additional bolt per wing and allows for a much more securable aircraft when hauling. Disconnect the aileron and flap push pull control rods, than support the wing while taking off the lift strut, set the tip down on a pillow and remove the main spar attatch bolt and the rear spar attatch bolt. Presto you have a wing ready to stow. Good luck on your future project and we are sorry to see you leaving Kolbdom. Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA


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    Time: 09:06:45 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Transporting Mk3
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Last summer when I blew an engine, I borrowed a big wooden trailer to transport it on, and we used deck screws and a drill driver to screw some 2x4's into the trailer floor to keep the wheels and tailwheel from moving around. Then we tied it down snug. We took a pile of old blankets and made two cushions for one wing under the airplane and tied it down with soft ropes wrapped with old sheets so they wouldn't mar the paint. The other wing we carried separately, but if the trailer had a wooden wall or a way to attach that wing to the wall, we would have used foam rubber for padding and tied it to one wall. You can buy a lot of foam rubber and use up a bunch of old blankets and bed spreads cheaper than you can refinish a wing. If you know someone that works in a nursing home or around a hospital, they can't reuse those waffle cushioned foam bed pads that they use because of health regs. If you know someone that can set aside the ones where the patient wasn't incontinent.... they are handy. I have a friend who is building his own recording studio and wanted to soundproof it, he had about 300 of those things, all of them clean, un-peed on, and used once. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 09:09 PM 4/12/04 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" <aaron@gamespeak.com> > >Denny, > >Thanks for the advice / info. I've loved my Mk3 and can easily see getting >another one sometime when I can afford more than one plane. The new owners >is looking into renting an enclosed trailer for the trip, do you have any >suggestions on how to best store/secure the wings (when off) and the plane >to best avoid shifting during a trailer ride? I hope the trailer has good >tie-down attachments build into the walls. > >Aaron > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Rowe >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transporting Mk3 > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Hollingsworth" ><aaron@gamespeak.com> > > > > Hello all. > > > > > > I sold my MK3 and the new owner plans on renting a trailer to take it home > > in. I was going to call Kolb to find out what hardware I need to fold the > > wings and get their recommendation for transport; however, they are closed > > this week. The plane currently has fixed AN hardware, not the quick pins. >I > > have never folded the wings. Isn't there some sort of brace/holder that >goes > > over the tail boom and holds the wings? Any input will be greatly > > appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Aaron > > > > Aaron, >The Mk 3 has the wing fold fitting built right into the Boom tube under the >front of the horizontal stabilizers. However, I would recommend removing the >wings completely for traveling. >This eliminates the need for a boom support that you must have with the >wings folded and it also makes the plane a lot easier to handle as a Mk-3 >with the wings folded is EXTREAMLY heavy on the tail and hard to handle. >Removing the wings only requires removal of one additional bolt per wing and >allows for a much more securable aircraft when hauling. >Disconnect the aileron and flap push pull control rods, than support the >wing while taking off the lift strut, set the tip down on a pillow and >remove the main spar attatch bolt and the rear spar attatch bolt. Presto you >have a wing ready to stow. >Good luck on your future project and we are sorry to see you leaving >Kolbdom. > >Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA > >




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