Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 04/23/04


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:04 AM - Big Lar's Airplane ride (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
     2. 07:19 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
     3. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     4. 07:54 AM - tom and betty (boyd young)
     5. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (John Hauck)
     6. 08:08 AM - Email Betty and Tom Kuffel (John Hauck)
     7. 08:39 AM - UL's near Winston Salem, NC (Rayfield, Bill)
     8. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
     9. 05:18 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Dave Rains)
    10. 05:23 PM - Re: Big Lar's Airplane ride (Larry Bourne)
    11. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Larry Bourne)
    12. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Larry Bourne)
    13. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (John Hauck)
    14. 06:20 PM - Re: Re: Sail repair tape (H MITCHELL)
    15. 06:22 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (Larry Bourne)
    16. 06:37 PM - First flight of Kolb Mk lll, N7078A (H MITCHELL)
    17. 07:31 PM - Re: First flight of Kolb Mk lll, N7078A (Beauford)
    18. 07:45 PM - James Tripp's Firestar II (John Hauck)
    19. 08:03 PM - Re: James Tripp's Firestar II (John Willamson)
    20. 08:16 PM - Re: James Tripp's Firestar II (Larry Bourne)
    21. 08:34 PM - Titan Tornado 1 for sale (Ron Lee)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:04:56 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Big Lar's Airplane ride
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> <<Don't worry. Larry will be glad to haul fuel for us. Especially if he wants to fly. :-) john h >> Hey, Larry - that is a GREAT offer you are gettin' from Hauck! Hauling fuel jugs is easy payment. I used to wash the oil & grease off the bottoms of nasty old Cessna-150 trainers for airplane rides when I was a teenager. Not nearly as much fun as getting a ride in a Kolb. Dennis Kirby DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:19:56 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Kolb Friends - I will be driving up, with my Mark-3 on a trailer. I will bring 2 five-gallon gas jugs, maybe a couple more if I can borrow 'em. Since I am driving, I can also bring all my tools, for whoever may need to use them. Included will be a tire pump, prop protractor, safety wire, rope, nylon tie-wraps, fabric repair kit, drill, extra AN hardware, clecos, plenty of duct tape (but no bailing wire), and several other like items that might be useful. I'll even bring extra landing gear legs (but I hope nobody will need to use those!). I am also bringing up some firewood and a few extra chairs. And a cooler filled with cold beverage (Goulding's is in Utah - remember?) Looking forward to seeing you all there! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, Verner-powered, N93DK "Magic Bike" Cedar Crest, NM do not archive


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    Time: 07:52:43 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> Dennis and Kolbers, Looks like we'll have plenty of gas cans because, along with yours, we will be bringing up a few. We will also have some firewood and other things you mentioned. AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > Kolb Friends - > > I will be driving up, with my Mark-3 on a trailer. > > I will bring 2 five-gallon gas jugs, maybe a couple more if I can borrow > 'em. > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3, Verner-powered, N93DK "Magic Bike" > Cedar Crest, NM > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 07:54:42 AM PST US
    From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: tom and betty
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net> i just got off the phone with betty and she is upbeet and she seemed well.. she mentioned that tom has had a multiple surgeries since sat and is continually improving with no setbacks. she wanted me to tell all on the list thanks for the support, and sorry they will miss us at mv and alaska. boyd


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    Time: 07:56:34 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Dennis Kirby Hi Dennis/All: Great! Our firewood toters, Tom and Betty Kuffel, will not be flying down to MV this time around. Remember, last year, they air freighted firewood, beverages, and many other useful items in the Prospector. We are going to miss their company. Chairs are also at a premium for use aviators who do not have room for more than a folding stool. 14 May is three weeks from today. I hope to get there 13 May or sooner, depending on winds and weather, and of course, when I depart Titus, Alabama. :-) Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:08:53 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Email Betty and Tom Kuffel
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Gang: For those that wish, here is a url to email Tom and Betty in St Pat's Hospital, Missoula, MT: http://www.saintpatrick.org/emailpatient.html I am sure they both would love to hear of you. One of the things Betty reminded me to do was "lease tell the Kolb List that they were in good shape and do not worry." I just fired off an email using the above system. Will know how it works soon. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:39:23 AM PST US
    Subject: UL's near Winston Salem, NC
    From: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rayfield, Bill" <brayfield@kcc.com> Gentlemen, I need your help. After my father's passing, I'm trying to figure out what to do with our Ultrastar (completed, never flown) and Kolbra kit (Serial #001 cockpit with complete wing and tail kits - unstarted). While I would love to complete the Kolbra and fly both of them, I am realistic and may decide to sell - I hate seeing it sitting there. I'm trying to find a place in or near Winston Salem, NC to park the Ultrastar in its trailer. I can not park it at my house. I have access to a field but it's 45 minutes away, and doubt I'd ever seriously get over to work/play with it. I would appreciate anyone's thoughts on my situation and any help or suggestions, please. Thanks guys Bill Rayfield Do not archive This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ==============================================================================


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    Time: 10:29:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    From: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com
    04/23/2004 12:28:56 PM, Serialize complete at 04/23/2004 12:28:56 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 04/23/2004 12:27:53 PM, Serialize by Router on HUDOMGW1/HTI(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 04/23/2004 12:27:55 PM, Serialize complete at 04/23/2004 12:27:55 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com I will be driving up, with my Mark-3 on a trailer. I can also bring all my tools, for whoever may need to use them. (but no bailing wire) Dennis, I got the bailing wire jab. I wonder how many other Kolbers know what you are referring to? Dwight A. Kottke The Flying "Farmer" do not archive


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    Time: 05:18:35 PM PST US
    From: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains <rr@htg.net> What, no antiseptic and sutures??? Dave Rains do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM [SMTP:Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil] Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Kolb Friends - I will be driving up, with my Mark-3 on a trailer. I will bring 2 five-gallon gas jugs, maybe a couple more if I can borrow 'em. Since I am driving, I can also bring all my tools, for whoever may need to use them. Included will be a tire pump, prop protractor, safety wire, rope, nylon tie-wraps, fabric repair kit, drill, extra AN hardware, clecos, plenty of duct tape (but no bailing wire), and several other like items that might be useful. I'll even bring extra landing gear legs (but I hope nobody will need to use those!). I am also bringing up some firewood and a few extra chairs. And a cooler filled with cold beverage (Goulding's is in Utah - remember?) Looking forward to seeing you all there! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, Verner-powered, N93DK "Magic Bike" Cedar Crest, NM do not archive


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    Time: 05:23:45 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Big Lar's Airplane ride
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Gotta do sump'n I guess. Gonna be several (at least) high powered cameras there this time, so I might not have the photographer excuse this time. 'Course, with the gas station right across the street, it's not that tough a duty. :-) Gunga Din Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Subject: Kolb-List: Big Lar's Airplane ride > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > <<Don't worry. Larry will be glad to haul fuel for us. Especially if > he wants to fly. :-) john h >> > > Hey, Larry - that is a GREAT offer you are gettin' from Hauck! > Hauling fuel jugs is easy payment. > > I used to wash the oil & grease off the bottoms of nasty old Cessna-150 > trainers for airplane rides when I was a teenager. Not nearly as much fun > as getting a ride in a Kolb. > > Dennis Kirby > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 05:34:27 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Holy Smokes ! ! !.............I'll bring Vamoose. You can finish it up for me...................... :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > Kolb Friends - > > I will be driving up, with my Mark-3 on a trailer. > > I will bring 2 five-gallon gas jugs, maybe a couple more if I can borrow > 'em. > Since I am driving, I can also bring all my tools, for whoever may need to > use them.>


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    Time: 05:41:04 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> You want me to bring "your" chair again this year, John ?? :-) Sadist Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > | I am also bringing up some firewood and a few extra chairs. > > > Hi Dennis/All: > > Great! > > Our firewood toters, Tom and Betty Kuffel, will not be flying down to > MV this time around. Remember, last year, they air freighted > firewood, beverages, and many other useful items in the Prospector. > We are going to miss their company. > > Chairs are also at a premium for use aviators who do not have room for


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    Time: 06:05:52 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Sadist Lar. Hey Larry/All: If it is the chair that has the foot thing that pops up. Remember what happened when I sat down in it, to everyone's surprise? Sure. I would love to have a chair to sit in. Thanks. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:20:58 PM PST US
    From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Sail repair tape
    Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:20:38 -0400 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> Dennis and all, Thanks for the responses on my use of sail repair tape for aileron gap seals. I went out to the hangar this AM and spent about 4 hours cleaning the gap surfaces with Windex, measuring and applying the tape. It took one twenty five foot roll to do all of the wing gaps and the tail gaps. I tried to keep the seals down in the gaps so they would not show the dirt that inevitably accumulates around the edges. It all turned out very well and there was no evidence of any problems after the first day of flight testing. Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM To: 'kolb-list@matronics.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sail repair tape --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> << Has anyone else out there tried this stuff? >> Duane, and All, This topic was discussed a few years ago, and the consensus then was: Sail repair tap is an excellent choice for gap seals, for all the reasons you stated (flexible, durable, easy to replace). I wonder if 2-inch wide tape is sufficient, though - I used 3-inch wide bookbinding tape, and it seemed barely wide enough to do the job. Let us know how it works out ... Dennis Kirby Mark-3, Verner-1400 Cedar Crest, NM


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    Time: 06:22:39 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> I'm not sure about other people's surprise, but I'll never forget the look on your face when that foot rest popped up and nearly flipped you over. LOL Folks, John is still in full possession of his reflexes and jump capability.............I bear witness. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > | You want me to bring "your" chair again this year, John ?? :-) > > Hey Larry/All: > > If it is the chair that has the foot thing that pops up. Remember > what happened when I sat down in it, to everyone's surprise? > > Sure. I would love to have a chair to sit in. Thanks. > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 06:37:24 PM PST US
    From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
    Subject: First flight of Kolb Mk lll, N7078A
    Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:37:16 -0400 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> Finally... I ran out of things to fix on my Mk lll this afternoon and got into the flight test prep mode. After a final inspection by my friend and fellow builder Rutledge Fuller and a few more fixes he took her out for taxi testing. Every thing went well so he took her up for a few crow hops (3,500' of grass) before we ran out of time. She handled just fine but I wanted to do a little more trimming before we released her for a complete wring out of everything she is capable of doing. She really looked great in the air. Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, Mk lll/912


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    Time: 07:31:24 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight of Kolb Mk lll, N7078A
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Congrats, Duane...!!! Glad you got 'er airborne.... Do not archive Beauford ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Kolb-List: First flight of Kolb Mk lll, N7078A > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com> > > Finally... > I ran out of things to fix on my Mk lll this afternoon and got into the flight test prep mode. She really looked great in the air. > > Duane the plane, Tallahassee, FL, Mk lll/912 > >


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    Time: 07:45:21 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: James Tripp's Firestar II
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Gang: Check out the progress by James Tripp on his new Firestar II. I like the colors. http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Friends/James%20Tripp's%20Firestar%20II.jpg Won't be much longer before it will be soaring over the skies of Central Alabama. James also passed his final check ride for his Private ticket recently. He is getting ready to fly. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:03:55 PM PST US
    From: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: James Tripp's Firestar II
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> John H. and James T. Let me know when you are ready to fly some formation and I will come and take the air-to-air photos. I think it will need to be done before the next TNK Homecoming. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 559 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive


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    Time: 08:16:54 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: James Tripp's Firestar II
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Wonder how he ever dreamed up a color scheme like that ?? :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Kolb-List: James Tripp's Firestar II > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > Hi Gang: > > Check out the progress by James Tripp on his new Firestar II. I like > the colors. > > http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Friends/James%20Tripp's%20Firestar%20II.jpg > > Won't be much longer before it will be soaring over the skies of > Central Alabama. > > James also passed his final check ride for his Private ticket > recently. He is getting ready to fly. > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 08:34:32 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Lee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
    Subject: Titan Tornado 1 for sale
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron Lee" <rlee468@comcast.net> I just reduced the price $1,000.00. Check it out on barnstormers.com Ron Lee




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