Kolb-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/05/04


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:47 AM - Flight Plan to MV (BICUM@aol.com)
     2. 04:45 AM - Re: Carb boots and Ivo prop question (GeoR38@aol.com)
     3. 04:50 AM - Re: Carb boots and Ivo prop question (GeoR38@aol.com)
     4. 05:23 AM - Re: bent bird (GeoR38@aol.com)
     5. 05:38 AM - Re: Flight Plan to MV (John Hauck)
     6. 06:37 AM - Re: Flight Plan to MV (Larry Bourne)
     7. 08:03 AM - Bent Bird (Doug Lawton)
     8. 01:02 PM - Re: Bent Bird (jerb)
     9. 01:10 PM - Re: bent bird (johnjung@compusenior.com)
    10. 01:31 PM - Re: Bent Bird (Vann Covington)
    11. 01:37 PM - Re: I broke my Kolb (Fackler, Ken)
    12. 02:29 PM - Re: Boomtube dimension requested (woody)
    13. 06:06 PM - Trailer for Mark III (Russell Phillips)
    14. 06:10 PM - Firestar tail feathers (Dan Charter)
    15. 06:36 PM - Re: bent bird (Beauford)
    16. 06:37 PM - Re: Firestar tail feathers (ronnie wehba)
    17. 07:46 PM - Re: Firestar tail feathers (Bob Bean)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:47:36 AM PST US
    From: BICUM@aol.com
    Subject: Flight Plan to MV
    jhauck@elmore.rr.com, kolb-list@matronics.com, domestead@yahoo.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: BICUM@aol.com Hello List, Thought I'd post my tentative flight plan. Route is posted on aeroplanner if you use that. One of the great things about these long X-countries is meeting people along the way. Depart Monday, May 10th @ daybreak A/P Airpark, Slaughter, LA (7LA9) - just north of Baton Rouge Center Muni, Center, TX (F17) Caddo Mills Muni, Caddo Mills, TX (7F3) Bowie Muni, Bowie, TX (0F2) (if all going well, little or no headwind, may swing over to OK, not in logbook yet) Childress Muni, Childress, TX (CDS) - probably pitch tent Hereford Muni, Hereford, TX (HRX) Santa Rosa Route 66, Santa Rosa, NM (I58) Sandia East, Edgewood, NM (1N1) - probably pitch tent, wait for morning light winds Aztec Muni, Aztec, NM (N19) Monument Valley - (UT25) A local friend, Bruce Williams (Kitfox), is meeting up with me around Sandia East. Let me know if this route intersects you or your plans. If you have any recommendations, that would be great too. Probably should respond off list, since this is just fun stuff and not techinical stuff. Should be arriving MV Wednesday or Thursday. Look forward to meeting a bunch of new and old Kolbers. Thanks & be careful, John Bickham St. Francisville, LA Kolb Mark III Classic - 912


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    Time: 04:45:40 AM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Carb boots and Ivo prop question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 5/3/04 10:40:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: > > wire....I > > Hi George/Gang: > > Without knowing how many operational hours occurred, the 6 year period > does not give us much info. > > Usually, when I am calibrating and testing prop pitch on my airplane, > I will make very short test flights without safety wire or other > mechanical safeties. I must admit I am very uncomfortable until I get > back on the ground and do a correct safety job on the prop. > > Take care, > > john h > I agree John, I have never felt comfortable without the safety wire....gotta drill some holes George Randolph ps, and you are right about the "6 years"....that only includes 150hours of flying time total and only 70 hours on the Ivo.


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    Time: 04:50:08 AM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Carb boots and Ivo prop question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 5/3/04 8:15:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lcottrel@kfalls.net writes: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net> > > >> > >I have run my IVO 3 blade for 6 years without jamb or even safety > wire....I > >only use nail polish on the heads ....no problem .... > >george Randolph > >ps I wrote IVO on this 6 years ago > > > What color George? > Larry > started out "blush pink", but after Haucks response has turned to "refuse brown". ...gotta go to Ohio and drill some holes...... Geo from the villages Fl


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    Time: 05:23:17 AM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: bent bird
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 5/4/04 11:53:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, donghe@one-eleven.net writes: > .. > didnt go any farther.....pulled the engine and set it on the > bench...ahhh...so today... I am singing the 2 stroke blues....actually for > the first time ever.. > maybe I was just due after all these years of hearing the song from so many > others! > > Don Gherardini > OEM.Sales / Engineering dept. > American Honda Engines > Power Equipment Company > CortLand, Illinois > 800-626-7326 > Very sorry to hear of your accident, Don, ....and you are the "engine guy" of the list....and YOU are singing the 2 stroke blues!! I sure am on the edge of my seat to hear what the hey happened to your engine!!?? Sure does sound like the time my Cuyunna "froze" though....I smelled burnt oil as I sat on the ground in a farmers field, but after it cooled down, I flew it out. Never did find out the problem, just assumed EGT problem, as I had it firewalled (didn't even have an EGT) trying to catch a T bird. I caught him....and immediately went silent. THis was 15 years ago, though, never duplicated in my Kolb with its 447 ( and I DO have an egt now). Good luck in your investigation George Randolph Firestar driver from The Villages.....maybe i will FLY it down from ohio.....hmmmm


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    Time: 05:38:22 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    <ghaley@wt.net>, <domestead@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight Plan to MV
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi John B and All: I spent the night at Sandia East last year. Gentleman that owns the airpark's name is Mike. I got his full name somewhere on a card. Nice guy. Took me to the local resturant for supper. Got up the next morning, flew up to Aztec for fuel, then to Ship Rock, Four Corners, and finally, Mounument Valley. Farmington would save you some time instead of Aztec since it is shorter route. However, it is a towered airport, D airspace, I think. John W refueled at Farmington. Said the tower guys were interested in his airplane, like a lot of controllers that don't have a lot to do and are airplane nuts too. I plan on leaving Sunday or Monday. Fly direct to Pueblo, Colorado, then to Leadville, CO. From Leadville, probably to Grand Junction, then hop over into Utah and fly south down through the national parks to MV. I still have some tweaking and cleaning to do on the airplane before I am ready to go. Throw my gear in a bag and head out. Getting antsy waiting around for departure time. Hope the weather cooperates better for the flight out and back than it did last year. See you all in MV, john h


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    Time: 06:37:29 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight Plan to MV
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Trips like yours ARE the fun stuff. Please keep us up-dated on your preparations and journey. I'll be coming thru Lousy-ana in June. Maybe could go for a ride ?? Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <BICUM@aol.com> <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>; <kolb-list@matronics.com>; <domestead@yahoo.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Flight Plan to MV > --> Kolb-List message posted by: BICUM@aol.com > > Hello List, > > Thought I'd post my tentative flight plan. Route is posted on aeroplanner if > you use that. One of the great things about these long X-countries is meeting > people along the way. > > Depart Monday, May 10th @ daybreak


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    Time: 08:03:15 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Bent Bird
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net> Don, Man do I hate to hear this! Glad you're OK and in good spirits. I, like you, never had any problems in years of running Cuyuna's. But I do know that others have. Again, glad you're still in one piece. Enjoy the rebuild......... Doug Lawton NE Georgia & Whitwell TN


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    Time: 01:02:10 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Bent Bird
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Seems like a nice Honda engine would look and sound good on it. jerb At 10:59 AM 5/5/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net> > >Don, > >Man do I hate to hear this! Glad you're OK and in good spirits. I, like >you, never had any problems in years of running Cuyuna's. But I do know >that others have. > >Again, glad you're still in one piece. Enjoy the rebuild......... > >Doug Lawton >NE Georgia & Whitwell TN > >


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    Time: 01:10:29 PM PST US
    From: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
    Subject: Re: bent bird
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "johnjung@compusenior.com" <johnjung@compusenior.com> Don and Group, I am sorry too, to hear of your soft field landing. But, in trying to figure out why the engine quit, have you ruled out a seizure? I know that I wouldn't fly an engine that quit, without knowing why, unless I had first examined the pistons. As a matter of fact, I don't like to fly with anything except a new engine unless I have seen the pistons. Too many two cycles have seized and are still flying without repairs. John Jung


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    Time: 01:31:42 PM PST US
    From: "Vann Covington" <vann_covington@ncsu.edu>
    Subject: Re: Bent Bird
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vann Covington" <vann_covington@ncsu.edu> Just curious, What kind of Honda engine would be light enough to go on a Firefly, or a Firestar for that matter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bent Bird > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> > > Seems like a nice Honda engine would look and sound good on it. > jerb > > At 10:59 AM 5/5/04 -0400, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net> > > > >Don, > > > >Man do I hate to hear this! Glad you're OK and in good spirits. I, like > >you, never had any problems in years of running Cuyuna's. But I do know > >that others have. > > > >Again, glad you're still in one piece. Enjoy the rebuild......... > > > >Doug Lawton > >NE Georgia & Whitwell TN > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:37:31 PM PST US
    From: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: I broke my Kolb
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net> I ordered the new boom tube and H-brace from Kolb today. As always, they were simply incredible with support and encouragement, a real pleasure to do business with. And as a bonus, they had the material in stock and with any luck at all I may have the replacement by the end of the week! Whooo hooo! -Ken


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    Time: 02:29:06 PM PST US
    From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: Boomtube dimension requested
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> 6063 Aluminum tubing is also known as irrigation tube and may be available at a farmer suppy store. check the yellow pages under irrigation supplies also. > Ken, > You most likely can't get the thickness that originally came with the > Twinstar. My 91 model Twinstar and also my 94 model Firestar II used a > 5" X .049 6061 tube. When I was building my Firestar in 1999 I had to > purchase a new set of plans. The new plans listed the size of the tube > as 5" x .052 6063.


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    Time: 06:06:15 PM PST US
    From: "Russell Phillips" <rphillip1999@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Trailer for Mark III
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Russell Phillips" <rphillip1999@hotmail.com> I'm looking at having a trailer built for my Mark III Classic (still building)and would like to here any suggestions that might make this a little less painful. I've checked the archives so I have a general idea of how I want to do it, but there are a lot of things I could use some advice about from guys that have already gone through it. One question is what will the height be with a 912 and 70" 3 blade prop. Anything suggestions or advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Russ Mark III Classic 2/3 Done NY now, maybe FL soon


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    Time: 06:10:29 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
    Subject: Firestar tail feathers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> Hi, What kind of set up am I supposed to be using on the lower cables on the horizontal stabilizer? I bought a single place Firestar and the previous owner has yet to send the manual. He's still looking. If I bolt the tangs tight to the airframe they're going to be too tight. I'm afraid I'll break something. With the cables pulled tight they're 3/4 of an inch from being flush to the spot where the bolt goes thru. What length bolt should I be using? It should be nice tomorrow for my first flight in a Kolb if I can sort this out. Dan


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    Time: 06:36:04 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: bent bird
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Don: Sorry about that pretty little Fly getting beat up... better it than you, though... Couldn't help but notice the EGT number you mentioned... 1200, or a tad over, would be real toasty-warm for a 447 at 5300 RPM cruise...Based on conversations I've had with owners, I think most of 'em run at least 100 degrees cooler than that, depending on how they are jetted and how the prop is set up... Personally, I have my EGT hi-temp master caution light set at 1200 degrees, since that is where the Rotax mafia says the melt-down zone begins for their engines...I don't expect to see 1200 on mine except in the thermal "coffin corner"... (steep glide, throttle closed more than 10 seconds...) Do the Cayunas routinely CRUISE up at 1200 or slightly above...? What EGT do you read in a closed throttle glide? Curious Beauford FF #076 Brandon, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird > I still have the image of those engine guages stuck into my mind in > bewilderment...chts....300 and 315......EGT 1200...maybe a needle over... > .. ! > > Don Gherardini >> > : http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >


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    Time: 06:37:34 PM PST US
    From: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
    Subject: Re: Firestar tail feathers
    required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net> use washers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar tail feathers > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> > > Hi, What kind of set up am I supposed to be using on the lower cables on the horizontal stabilizer? I bought a single place Firestar and the previous owner has yet to send the manual. He's still looking. If I bolt the tangs tight to the airframe they're going to be too tight. I'm afraid I'll break something. With the cables pulled tight they're 3/4 of an inch from being flush to the spot where the bolt goes thru. What length bolt should I be using? > It should be nice tomorrow for my first flight in a Kolb if I can sort this out. > Dan > >


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    Time: 07:46:13 PM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Firestar tail feathers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> That's a real mix-n-match deal. -washers, maybe a little untwist, loosen the top wires a bit. If that doesn't work make a new tang or two. Not too tight, not too loose. Being patient helps a lot. Dunno what note should be heard upon strumming. Having the memory of a gnat, I slip the same washers and parts back on the tang when I disassemble. -BB, do not archive Dan Charter wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> > >Hi, What kind of set up am I supposed to be using on the lower cables on the horizontal stabilizer? I bought a single place Firestar and the previous owner has yet to send the manual. He's still looking. If I bolt the tangs tight to the airframe they're going to be too tight. I'm afraid I'll break something. With the cables pulled tight they're 3/4 of an inch from being flush to the spot where the bolt goes thru. What length bolt should I be using? >It should be nice tomorrow for my first flight in a Kolb if I can sort this out. >Dan > > > >




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