---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/08/04: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:26 AM - cyunna (Ted Cowan) 2. 05:07 AM - Bent bird (bryan green) 3. 05:39 AM - Re: Don's sudden silence (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)) 4. 06:14 AM - Re: bent bird (Dave Rains) 5. 07:35 AM - Re: bent bird (ul15rhb@juno.com) 6. 08:49 AM - Kill switch covers (Mike Pierzina) 7. 09:11 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 (Skywaylodge@aol.com) 8. 10:58 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 (Richard Pike) 9. 03:17 PM - Sun n Fun Flite line DVD video (Jon Croke) 10. 04:16 PM - Re: bent bird (GeoR38@aol.com) 11. 04:47 PM - fun day (Paul Petty) 12. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 (bryan green) 13. 05:51 PM - Re: Sun n Fun Flite line DVD video (Don Gherardini) 14. 05:56 PM - Re: Kill switch covers (Larry Cottrell) 15. 06:04 PM - Re: bent bird (Don Gherardini) 16. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 (John Cooley) 17. 06:41 PM - Kolb Factory Fly-in at London (Giovanni Day) 18. 06:54 PM - Re: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London (John Hauck) 19. 06:57 PM - Re: bent bird (John Cooley) 20. 07:07 PM - Re: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London (John Hauck) 21. 07:14 PM - Re: fuel question (John Cooley) 22. 07:22 PM - Re: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London (Giovanni Day) 23. 07:28 PM - Re: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London (John Willamson) 24. 07:33 PM - Re: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London (The Labhart's) 25. 09:16 PM - Re: bent bird (Don Gherardini) 26. 11:01 PM - Re: bent bird (Larry Bourne) 27. 11:08 PM - Re: Kill switch covers (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:41 AM PST US From: Ted Cowan Subject: Kolb-List: cyunna --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan Don, my two cents. Ran these little engines for years and were basically trouble free. my money is on a switch. try heating the switch a little bit with a hair dryer. I have found if the switch is even a little burned or coroded, it will act like a resistor and heat up and break the circuit. that is how I found a bad one before. cant hurt. was happy when I switched to rotax and had to ground it to kill it. ted cowan sorry about you 'pranging your kite'. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:44 AM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Kolb-List: Bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" Morning Don and all, in all the good discussion about the engine out no one has mentioned wiring. If you haven't already check your wiring good Don with a meter and also feeling along the length of the wire while bending it. I have had wires fail inside the insulation on equipment and cause an intermittent problem. Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:32 AM PST US From: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Don's sudden silence message of Fri, 7 May 2004 23:56:29 -0700 --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Hey, Don.....put a little load on the switch when testing with the Fluke...maybe a couple light bulbs or something...could be failing under load. (or heat and/or vibes) Just my two cents....... Mike in WV do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:39 AM PST US From: Dave Rains Subject: RE: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dave Rains The incident sounds like a slug of water to me. Hope you get it worked out. do not archive Dave Rains -----Original Message----- From: Don Gherardini [SMTP:donghe@one-eleven.net] Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Ben, ....and everyone.... thx again for your kind words and concern of me.... as for my cage...yes, I am gonna fix it Ben....little doubt that the 2500 bucks for a new one...would be more than I would want to spend just for a quicker rebuild time....which is really the only reason I priced one....to see what the cost was to get back in the air the fastest!... I have pulled the ex manifold from my Cuyuna and found nice clean new looking pistons peeking thru....no siezure or even a hint of high heat... I am just about down to blameing that dang switch on the stoppage...as some here have suggested. I ruled it out inthe begining, as when I flipped the switch on and checked the spark...first thing after the bird was in my shop...and found good spark....jumping a .250 gap with perfect consistacy. But....after going over everything else...and not finding a problem...I came back to the switch, and I have not been able to duplicate the problem with consistancy.(with a fluke Meter)...BUT I do get some suspicious indications intermittantly. since I cannot duplicate the conditions exactly...such as vibration in flight from the engine and other.....I cannot be certain it is NOT the culprit.. Thx again men....you are all too kind! Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird From: ul15rhb@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com Don, On one of my first flights with the Firestar, I reached under the seat for a camera and the engine quit. I didn't know what caused it at the time until I came down (I flew the plane down which was the right thing to do). When I went to start, the switch was in the off position. Evidently, I hit it when reaching under the seat. From that time on, I mounted it upside down, figuring it would happen again if left the way it was. That took care of that little problem. Ralph Original Firestar 17 years flying it On Fri, 7 May 2004 19:04:57 -0500 "Don Gherardini" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > > Ben, ....and everyone.... > thx again for your kind words and concern of me.... > > as for my cage...yes, I am gonna fix it Ben....little doubt that the > 2500 > bucks for a new one...would be more than I would want to spend just > for a > quicker rebuild time....which is really the only reason I priced > one....to > see what the cost was to get back in the air the fastest!... > > I have pulled the ex manifold from my Cuyuna and found nice clean > new > looking pistons peeking thru....no siezure or even a hint of high > heat... > > I am just about down to blameing that dang switch on the > stoppage...as some > here have suggested. > I ruled it out inthe begining, as when I flipped the switch on and > checked > the spark...first thing after the bird was in my shop...and found > good > spark....jumping a .250 gap with perfect consistacy. > But....after going over everything else...and not finding a > problem...I came > back to the switch, and I have not been able to duplicate the > problem with > consistancy.(with a fluke Meter)...BUT I do get some suspicious > indications > intermittantly. > since I cannot duplicate the conditions exactly...such as vibration > in > flight from the engine and other.....I cannot be certain it is NOT > the > culprit.. > > Thx again men....you are all too kind! > > Don Gherardini > FireFly 098 > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:37 AM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Kill switch covers --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I went to start, the switch was in the off position. Evidently, I hit it when reaching under the seat. From that time on, I mounted it upside down, figuring it would happen again if left the way it was. That took care of that little problem. ---Hey Guys, I have a dual Ducati ignition, but I ran extra KILLS and mounted them in the normal place on a Firestar. I bought switch covers that have to be "FLIPPED" up before the switch can be moved....(about $5 ea.) And unless a wire screws into a main terminal block , any connection is Soldered ....and I don't trust crimped connections...I try to get some solder on those too... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN PS John H , I was tring to write you last week , but I don't think you were getting them...They probly went through your spam grinder... I was writing off list , so you wouldn't have to appoligize for your reply ,or type a disclaimer, warning others not to follow your thought on the matter. do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:32 AM PST US From: Skywaylodge@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Skywaylodge@aol.com Kolb Mark III for sale. I've posted my Mrk III several times on this list - which I now have discovered is not the best place to try to sell it. Could someone tell me where to advertise so that I can get some results? Yes, I also have it on the ultralight main web site. Help. Skywaylodge@aol.com. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:58:49 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Have you thought about e-bay? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 12:08 PM 5/8/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Skywaylodge@aol.com > >Kolb Mark III for sale. I've posted my Mrk III several times on this list - >which I now have discovered is not the best place to try to sell it. Could >someone tell me where to advertise so that I can get some results? Yes, I >also >have it on the ultralight main web site. Help. >Skywaylodge@aol.com. > >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:21 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Kolb-List: Sun n Fun Flite line DVD video --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" Greetings all from near Green Bay, Wi Last month I traveled to Sun n Fun and spent nearly 2 days at the ultralight flight line (really the sport pilot LSA flightline, 90% of the aircraft were NOT ultralight, of course!). I spent quite a bit of time filming with a rented video camera and have produced the best 1 hour video on a DVD from those 2 days. As a Kolb and Zenith owner, I made some special attempts to get extra footage of those products.... tho there are many manufacturers represented here. I am sure you will recognize some familiar faces/aircraft from the list here! If you have attended Sun n Fun or Osh in the past, you know what its like watching the incredibly short takeoff and landing distances made by some of these aircraft. Even tho I already fly these myself, it's something else to watch from the outside and see it done. I'll leave it at that and just say that if you have an interest, go to www.KolbPilot.com and on the home page will be a link to the particulars of getting a hold of this DVD. Good flying! Jon near Green Bay FSII Zenith CH701 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:24 PM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 5/8/04 10:36:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ul15rhb@juno.com writes: > Don, > > On one of my first flights with the Firestar, I reached under the seat > for a camera and the engine quit. I didn't know what caused it at the > time until I came down (I flew the plane down which was the right thing > to do). When I went to start, the switch was in the off position. > Evidently, I hit it when reaching under the seat. From that time on, I > mounted it upside down, figuring it would happen again if left the way it > was. That took care of that little problem. > > Ralph > Original Firestar > 17 years flying it Two things, I agree with Ralph, the same thing happened to my firestar, when i allowed another fella to fly it (Frank, who used to be on this list and built a MKIII) accidently hit the toggle with his KNEE we think...short chunky lil son of a gun he was...good guy though...and he bought the silence and came in for a hard landing. To eliminate that possibility, I took a plastic cap from a spray paint can and put a hole in it and mounted the toggle in there. Works great! Thing 2. When I went down in my Cuyuna powered pterodactyl, about 4000 years ago, I can even smell to this day the burnt oil smell coming off the hot, temporarily seized engine. After half an hour of cooling off, I went around the back and twisted the prop and to my utter amazement heard nothing and saw no indication of a frozen engine. Halfheartedly I decided to start it ...knowing that it wouldn't start....and it started right up!! Tested the throttle awhile and checked it all over and nothing seemed to be wrong. Got in it while running, and without all the usual hangar flyin adjectives....took off over the treeline that i had hastily put down from, and ...flew home.The ol fella that I had been trying to catch in his T bird was there and didn't even miss me, even though we had taken off together. His name was Viets if anyone may know him. from the Ohio area. Egt and Cht was unknown to me at the time. Oh, Btw, my Cuyuna was "illigal" in that it had a resonator on the exhaust that was supposed to suck 5 additional hp out of the puppy....to be used sparingly ...of course. Firestar driver of "by George" from The Villages....was Akron O 447, 3 blade Ivo, 206#...but losin ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:43 PM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: fun day --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Kolbers, Took the day off from Ms. Dixie to go flying and have some fun and fellowship with my new club buddies at http://www.centralmississippilightflyers.com/ There were 18 airplanes that flew in for the chicken dinner and meeting. Joe Cauthen was flying the Woods brothers Sling Shot and boy she is fast! 100hp 912S on the plane makes him a tad nervous. He says he feels that it will nose over if ya firewall it on initial take off so for now he sorta eases into it till it gets rolling good.CMLF is a good UL club and I like it allot. Can't wait for the day I can fly up there instead of driving. Purchased an hour of instruction/flying in Mike Smith's Rans S-12/100hp converted 912UL 80hp to the 912S. Let me tell you guys, this airplane flies great. Funny because I has narrowed my choices down to this airplane and the Kolbra. I have only flown the Kolbra from the rear seat so I can't give a good comparison between the two models. What I can say is that you can drop both of them out of the sky very quickly. One thing I did notice is that the Rans requires a lot more rudder input. Or maybe not so much input, but you have to really push hard on the pedals to make a change. The Kolbra that I flew from the rear seat, only needed slight rudder to make a good turn. Anyway it was a flip of the coin and the Kolb's stronger wing that convinced me. That and you fine folks. The day was topped off by the delivery of a S1 Pitts that one of the members bought from a guy in Dayton Ohio. He gave us quite a show doing aerobatics. When the aircraft landed I was surprised how tiny it was. Hope everyone had a good Saturday as I have had... Time to get back to work..... Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:06 PM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" Try barnstormers.com Bryan Green (Elgin SC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > Have you thought about e-bay? > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > At 12:08 PM 5/8/04 -0400, you wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Skywaylodge@aol.com > > > >Kolb Mark III for sale. I've posted my Mrk III several times on this list - > >which I now have discovered is not the best place to try to sell it. Could > >someone tell me where to advertise so that I can get some results? Yes, I > >also > >have it on the ultralight main web site. Help. > >Skywaylodge@aol.com. > > > >Do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:57 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun n Fun Flite line DVD video --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Jon, 15 bucks?.....jeez..... My order is on the way!!!! and thanks a mil.... Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:35 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kill switch covers --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" And unless a wire screws into a main terminal block , any connection is Soldered ....and I don't trust crimped connections...I try to get some solder on those too... > Guys, my memory is faulty at best, but it seems to me that for airplanes they do not recommend soldering as it makes the wire stiff and more prone to breaking than crimped connections? Do not archive Larry ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:43 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" HIya men.... well....believe it or not....I have almost got that cage back straight!!.....YAHOOOO!!!! Wasnt as hard as I thought it was gonna be....I made a "frame straightener"....from to two 4x4x3/8th angle irons I fished out of the ole iron pile.. drilled holes in em for running bolts thru to afix various clamps and hooks and such...and just pulled it back where it was supposed to be, similar to a automotive frame machine in the concept...didnt even need a hammer...much....and did not apply any heat! At this point, I have not repleced a single tube...may or may not need to! If tomorrow, when I remove all the clamps and "release it" from the angleiron rails, it stays...heck..I will be recovering before the sun sets! I only peeled the covering from the front half of the cage, and I dont believe I am gonna need to peel the rear, Feeling pretty good about it right now...!!! Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:18 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" I think Barnstormers is a good one. Another one to try is http://www.ultralighthomepage.com/CLASSIFIEDS/classifieds.cgi?session_ke y=&search_and_display_db_button=on&query=browse&results_format=headlines Also may want to put it on the Kolb web page. Good Luck, John Cooley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Skywaylodge@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/07/04 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Skywaylodge@aol.com Kolb Mark III for sale. I've posted my Mrk III several times on this list - which I now have discovered is not the best place to try to sell it. Could someone tell me where to advertise so that I can get some results? Yes, I also have it on the ultralight main web site. Help. Skywaylodge@aol.com. Do not archive == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:36 PM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Hello All, A friend told me today that the Kolb Factory Fly-in at London is next weekend. Is this correct? I thought is was in September. Thanks Giovanni Day MKIII wings still need covering. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:43 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" is | next weekend. Is this correct? I thought is was in September. Thanks | | | Giovanni Day Giovanni/All: I plan on flying up to the flyin the last weekend in Sep 04. You can always check out TNK web site for latest of stuff like that. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:24 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" Don, That's great news. Now what are going to do about the engine? No doubt you will spend a good amount of time over the runway if you go back with the Cuyuna. Here's to a speedy recovery....... Later, John Cooley Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Gherardini Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" --> HIya men.... well....believe it or not....I have almost got that cage back straight!!.....YAHOOOO!!!! Wasnt as hard as I thought it was gonna be....I made a "frame straightener"....from to two 4x4x3/8th angle irons I fished out of the ole iron pile.. drilled holes in em for running bolts thru to afix various clamps and hooks and such...and just pulled it back where it was supposed to be, similar to a automotive frame machine in the concept...didnt even need a hammer...much....and did not apply any heat! At this point, I have not repleced a single tube...may or may not need to! If tomorrow, when I remove all the clamps and "release it" from the angleiron rails, it stays...heck..I will be recovering before the sun sets! I only peeled the covering from the front half of the cage, and I dont believe I am gonna need to peel the rear, Feeling pretty good about it right now...!!! Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:20 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | | You can always check out TNK web site for latest of stuff like that. | | john h Gang: Guess I am full of it. Checked the TNK site and there is nothing on there about the 2004 Kolb Home Coming. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:12 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: fuel question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" Paul/Gang, Sorry for the delay in answering your question. I had never thought of avgas having a longer shelf life than regular motor gasoline and needed to do a little research. I'm sure there are other factors involved but mainly the avgas has a anti-oxidant added to it to help prevent the "going stale" problem. This anti-oxidant is not added to regular motor gas. Another thing that I believe is a factor is that motor gasoline contains varying percentages of butane depending on the time of the year and the location in the country. Butane of course adds to the vapor pressure of motor gasoline and very easily weathers off. It is high in octane number and may help explain why motor gas goes stale quicker. Avgas has no butane added to it and is basically light alklate with lead, dye and anti-oxidant added to it. Avgas also is the only American gas that still has lead added to it. It is a very good octane or performance booster. The rating on avgas, such as 100/130 is a performance number and not a octane number as explained to me by one of the lab technicians. Octane rating only goes to 100 and avgas is higher than 100 octane hence the performance number rating. Hope this helps some. Later, John Cooley --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Kolbers, Very interesting topic this fuel buzz. Question for our resident gasoline expert John Cooley and perhaps helpful to the rest of the list. John, Why is lower octane say 87 verses 97 or 100LL avgas more acceptable to becoming say "Stale" or try and turn into "Varnish" as we call it in the deep south? And does this stuff that I sell called "Stablle" really work? I had a interesting conversation with John Hauck the other day about how most ultralight aircraft don't see much airtime.And with the aircraft sitting for so long the gas in our airplanes gets water in it or turns into varnish like in a lawnmower left over the winter not started and run for long periods of time. Charlie's RV8 has sat for 3 years with only 42 hrs of flight time. 100LL mostly in it and it seams to be clear and fresh as the day it was pumped? So what's the deal here? Does the higher octane last longer? Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:06 PM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Thanks for the reply. I figured that if it was happening, it would be abuzzzz on this list. Here is a link to the bad info my friend has. http://www.lou-telecom.net/~prdmr/fly-in.htm Giovanni DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:19 PM PST US From: "John Willamson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" Here is what's happening at TNK: 5/15 - 5/15/2004 London, KY Bluegrass Ultralight Group Chestnut Knolls Fly-In,Chestnut Knolls Airport 3KY2 Contact Information: Mike Holder 859-986-3523 John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 564 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:23 PM PST US From: "The Labhart's" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Factory Fly-in at London --> Kolb-List message posted by: "The Labhart's" There is a Bluegrass Ultralight Group Fly-In that will be at the Chesnut Knolls Airpark. It is not a Kolb sponsored event. It is next weekend. Do Not Archive Dana Labhart ART BY ATHERTON 102 Hellard Road East Bernstadt, KY 40729 606-843-2849 Fax 843-2947 danalabhart@kih.net Did you know you can get free business cards at the following site? http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=36985903&siteid=38211520&bfpage=homepage ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:54 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" John....well pard...you can bet thee will be alot of time running it tied to the ole maple tree out back before I step back into the air!.. and sure..I will run Go back with the Cuyuna....unless someone drops something else in my lap... Its not that I dont like Rotaxs by any means....I just cant bring my self to pay the 4 grand for a new 447 engine...thats 20 years out of technology, if I found a good used one for a fair price....I might consider it. .But tell me, ever hear of a Rotax..or a Zenoah, or a Hirth quit running?(LOL After all....If everyone who has ever had one a these dang 2 strokes quit em in the air for what ever reason...didnt buy them anymore.... I guess there wouldnt be enough little airplanes flying to have 1 fly-in a year!..And I dont think any brand is immune. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:49 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Good on you, Don. After years in the refrigeration business, I've come to the sorta semi-belief that you have to put in your "sweat time" on a job. If a call comes in, and I think, "Oh, yah, that'll be a snap," it's bound to goof up, fall apart, Murphy will attack.....something. If, on the other hand, I worry about it all the night before, and on my way to the job, thinking about how I'm gonna get part A away from part B, etc., it usually will go pretty smoothly - because I've already put in my sweat time. I think the time you've spent agonizing over your plane would more than qualify as "sweat time." 'Bout time something went right, eh ?? Good Luck ! ! ! Lar. Do not Archive. P.S. You don't wanna get too happy too fast............Murphy watches for that attitude. :-) Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: bent bird > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" > > HIya men.... > > well....believe it or not....I have almost got that cage back > straight!!.....YAHOOOO!!!! > > Wasnt as hard as I thought it was gonna be....I made a "frame > straightener"....from to two 4x4x3/8th angle irons I fished out of the ole > iron pile.. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:24 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kill switch covers --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" I believe you're right, Larry. I've read the same thing, where you'll have a stress riser at the end of the solder. There's also concern about 'cold solder' joints. It takes practise. Then again, I've seen MANY crimped connectors fail because people don't put some muscle into the crimp. Just squeezing it down to where it's snug on the wire isn't enuf. Gotta make it solid tight, and should leave at least 1/16" between the crimp and the end of the fitting, to avoid a stress riser there, as well. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kill switch covers > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" > > And unless a wire screws into a main terminal block , any connection is > Soldered ....and I don't trust crimped connections...I try to get some > solder on those too... > > > Guys, my memory is faulty at best, but it seems to me that for airplanes > they do not recommend soldering as it makes the wire stiff and more prone to > breaking than crimped connections? > Do not archive > Larry > >