---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/11/04: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:08 AM - Kolb Challenger? (Paul Petty) 2. 09:53 AM - Help with TwinStar W&B (d7yl) 3. 10:08 AM - John Bickham (Paul Petty) 4. 10:23 AM - Re: Kolb Challenger? (Eugene Zimmerman) 5. 10:26 AM - Re: Monument Aftermath (John Clayton) 6. 11:35 AM - Re: John Bickham (Giovanni Day) 7. 05:28 PM - Plans (LOREN7310@aol.com) 8. 06:33 PM - Re: Kolb Challenger? (Bob Bean) 9. 06:41 PM - Re: John Bickham (John Cooley) 10. 07:20 PM - Re: John Bickham (Denny Rowe) 11. 08:12 PM - Re: C G location for Mk III (HShack@aol.com) 12. 09:55 PM - Re: Viscosity (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:46 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Challenger? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Kolbers, I know that many are out having fun flying to MV so this is one for the guys that are like me. Ground bound. Reading June 2004 issue of "Kit planes" on page 60 in the "Completions section" There is an article of Greg Henry's "Kolb Challenger II. WTF? Is this a typo or has TNK been up to something we don't know about? hehehe. Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp www.c-gate.net/~ppetty do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:23 AM PST US From: "d7yl" Subject: Kolb-List: Help with TwinStar W&B --> Kolb-List message posted by: "d7yl" I guess this has been hashed over many times already, but what are the definitive Weight & Balance numbers for the Kolb TwinStar? It seems that the plans are lacking in that area. regards, Daryl H. Kolb TwinStar C-IGIT. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:54 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: John Bickham UPPERCASE_25_50 0.00) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Hey Kolbers, Any one hear of John Bickham putting his bird down? This was in the NTSB. IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 308JB Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK 3 Date: 05/10/2004 Time: 1410 Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Minor LOCATION City: LONGVIEW State: TX Country: US DESCRIPTION ACFT MADE A FORCE LANDING IN A FIELD WHEN IT RAN OUT OF FUEL, 12 MILES S E OF LONGVIEW, TX INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: 1400UTC GGG SPECI 17007 1 SM BR OVC 002 19/18 3007 Number M3-308 Type Registration Individual Manufacturer Name BICKHAM JOHN Certificate Issue Date 08/07/2000 Model KOLB MARK III Status Valid Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating Pending Number Change None Dealer No Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50636724 MFR Year None Fractional Owner NO Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp www.c-gate.net/~ppetty do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:37 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Challenger? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman Paul, For some people all bulldozers are caterpillars and all cattle are cows therefore all ultra light type airplanes must be Kolbs. do not archive Paul Petty wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > Kolbers, > I know that many are out having fun flying to MV so this is one for > the guys that are like me. Ground bound. Reading June 2004 issue of > "Kit planes" on page 60 in the "Completions section" There is an > article of Greg Henry's "Kolb Challenger II. WTF? Is this a typo or > has TNK been up to something we don't know about? hehehe. > > Paul Petty > Building Ms. Dixie > Kolbra/912UL/Warp > www.c-gate.net/~ppetty > > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:27 AM PST US From: "John Clayton" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Monument Aftermath --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Clayton" Lar and photographers I photographed the "slot-canyons" near Page in 2000. They are spectacular, well worth the trip! John Clayton - Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Bourne Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Aftermath --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Ol' Lar's been busy on the phone, and here's some food for thought for those who're coming to Monument Valley THIS WEEK. You may have seen pictures of the slot canyons near Page, AZ. For a good introduction, enter "Antelope Canyon," and/or "Corkscrew Canyon" in a search engine. I've arranged with Navajo Tours to go on the 2 hour photographers tour of Antelope Canyon at 11:00 AM on Monday, the 17th. I spoke with Dalvin at 1-928-698-3384. Last year, I believe it was Erich Weaver and his wife and daughter who went on a 1/2 day raft trip from Glen Canyon Dam to Lee's Ferry, on the Colorado River. This is thru Marble Canyon - the beginning of the Grand Canyon, and the scenery is spectacular. For a very good look at it, go onto my website, click on "Traveling," then click on "Vacation 2002," then on "Grand Canyon." That was when I took my little 15' boat on just that trip, and the idea of relaxing on a raft and really enjoying it appeals very strongly. I spoke wi! th a very pleasant lady named Jean, at Wilderness Outfitters - 1-985-534-3474, and made reservations for a 1/2 day trip leaving Page on their bus at 7:30 AM on Tuesday, the 18th. They take you thru a 2 mile tunnel and launch at the base of the dam, (that's gotta be an adventure in itself ! ! !) then float 15 miles down to Lee's Ferry, (it's an easy float - no big rapids) pick you up, and bring you back to Page. Cost is $59.00 for adults, and $49.00 for kids under 12. My photographer's handbook shows some very interesting scenery to the SE of Page, so I'll fill Monday afternoon with that. Anyone want to join me ?? Make your own reservations ! ! ! Lookin' Forward Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:45 AM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Bickham --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" I hope John was not hurt. I have been there and have the t-shirt. I ran out of fuel once when on approach to our local airport in my quicksilver. I had some friend watching. I made the end of the runway, but had to walk back to my hanger 1/2 mile down the taxiway to get a can of fuel. I must say it was very embarrassing.;) Turning red. Giovanni Day MKIII still needs those wings covered. do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:40 PM PST US From: LOREN7310@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Plans --> Kolb-List message posted by: LOREN7310@aol.com Anyone willing to help with plans or photocopies of tailboom and strusts particularly for the Twin Star. Thanks for your hand. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:15 PM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Challenger? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean Paul, must be a hybrid. Just kidding, but an early experimental, also a pusher, The Breezy used whatever wings happened to be hanging in the barn when the frame was done. I remember a summer evening at a strip in Maryland where an immensely obese fellow was shooting T&G's. That guy was so smooth and the breezy so slow, it was a delight to watch. -BB do not archive Paul Petty wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" > >Kolbers, >I know that many are out having fun flying to MV so this is one for the guys that are like me. Ground bound. Reading June 2004 issue of "Kit planes" on page 60 in the "Completions section" There is an article of Greg Henry's "Kolb Challenger II. WTF? Is this a typo or has TNK been up to something we don't know about? hehehe. > >Paul Petty >Building Ms. Dixie >Kolbra/912UL/Warp >www.c-gate.net/~ppetty > >do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:02 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Bickham --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" Hi Gang, Can someone expand on this post? Did John B. have a problem? If something came through the Kolb list about it I did not receive anything. Help! Later, John Cooley Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Giovanni Day Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Bickham --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" I hope John was not hurt. I have been there and have the t-shirt. I ran out of fuel once when on approach to our local airport in my quicksilver. I had some friend watching. I made the end of the runway, but had to walk back to my hanger 1/2 mile down the taxiway to get a can of fuel. I must say it was very embarrassing.;) Turning red. Giovanni Day MKIII still needs those wings covered. do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:31 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Bickham --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > Hi Gang, > Can someone expand on this post? Did John B. have a problem? If > something came through the Kolb list about it I did not receive > anything. Help! > > Later, > John Cooley > > Do not archive > > > John, Paul P got a report off the FAA accident wire that John B ran out of fuel and put down in a field in Texas I think. By the sounds of the report he was uninjured and the Mk-3 only suffered slight damage. Denny Rowe ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:38 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: C G location for Mk III --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com Can someone please tell me the fore & aft dimensions? We are installing amphib. floats. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:51 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Viscosity --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Ralph, You replied that I had the right oil when I said I had mobile 1 Synthetic gear lubricant 75w-90. Do you know for sure that is the same viscosity you used? Rotax calls for 85W-140EP. How bout it fellers, Anybody else using 75W-90 Mobile 1 synthetic gear lube for any length of time with success? Ive looked over half of Houston for the 75- 140 Mobil 1synthetic lube with no luck. Couldnt find nuttin in the archives on it either. Ed (in houston)