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1. 06:01 AM - dodge tranny failures goes on .... (artdog1512)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: Plans (LOREN7310@aol.com)
3. 06:36 AM - Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (Richard Pike)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (J.D. Stewart)
5. 07:15 AM - Amsoil gear oil (Terry)
6. 07:35 AM - Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 12.30/04.00] Re: dodge tranny failures ... (Kelvin Kurkowski)
7. 07:57 AM - Re: Amsoil gear oil (ul15rhb@juno.com)
8. 08:02 AM - Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (Giovanni Day)
9. 09:39 AM - Re: Amsoil gear oil (Bob Bean)
10. 10:52 AM - Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
11. 11:27 AM - Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (Giovanni Day)
12. 05:06 PM - Throttle Lever Broke (M. Domenic Perez)
13. 06:08 PM - Re: Throttle Lever Broke (stephen e. spence)
14. 06:40 PM - Wing spacers (Jimmy)
15. 08:12 PM - Re: Amsoil gear oil (HShack@aol.com)
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| Subject: | dodge tranny failures goes on .... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
From: "Ken korenek" <kkorenek@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dodge tranny failures ...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek
<kkorenek@comcast.net>
>
> I thought the purpose of this list was to be a forum
for the
discussion
> of Kolb related issues and not the venue to spew
misguided hatred for
an
> American made product, which, by the way, is well
received by many...
>
> Ken Korenek
> N104KK>>>>>>>>>
ken,
its not hatred, i just think Chrysler products
are junk!.... tim
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: LOREN7310@aol.com
a gentleman from MI is copying some portions of the plans, but in particular,
I need to know the measurements of the wing struts, tailboom, and landing
gear. thank you.
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| Subject: | Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
A member of our EAA chapter has had a string of bad luck with his T Bird II
and is parting it out.
He has a 70 inch 3 blade Powerfin in good shape that he wants $350 for, it
has both the 2 and 3 blade hubs.
Engine is a Verner 1400. It develops 80 HP. It is 4 cycle air cooled, burns
3.3 gph, weighs 165 lbs total including oil cooler. It has a 13 amp
alternator. The engine has less than 60 hours since new and TBO is 1200
hours. Verner WEB site is http://verneraircraftengins.com . He wants $4000
for it. It has the belt drive.
Contact him (not me) at
jim@pensinger.net
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@inebraska.com>
Try http://verneraircraftengines.com (missing an "e" in engines below)
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports
http://www.ultrafunairsports.com
FlyChallenger E-mail list and Website Administrator
http://challenger.inebraska.com
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Pike
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 8:34 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> A member of our EAA chapter has had a string of bad luck with his
> T Bird II
> and is parting it out.
>
> He has a 70 inch 3 blade Powerfin in good shape that he wants
> $350 for, it
> has both the 2 and 3 blade hubs.
>
> Engine is a Verner 1400. It develops 80 HP. It is 4 cycle air
> cooled, burns
> 3.3 gph, weighs 165 lbs total including oil cooler. It has a 13 amp
> alternator. The engine has less than 60 hours since new and TBO is 1200
> hours. Verner WEB site is http://verneraircraftengins.com . He
> wants $4000
> for it. It has the belt drive.
>
> Contact him (not me) at
> jim@pensinger.net
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Ralph,
Interesting that you made that post about the Amsoil turning dark in
your 4 stroke motorcycle
Last year after reading the posts about the benefits of using synthetic
oil in the gear reduction box, I decided to try it. It was time for the
recommended change and I went looking. I also couldn't find the heavy
weight 80-140 recommended by Rotax. Since I am using Amsoil 2 cycle
mixing oil I called my supplier and asked if he had the gear oil in that
weight and he did.
Put the Amsoil in last year and ran it until now. Went to change it a
couple of days ago and was shocked to see it come out black. There was
black sludge built up on the drain plug and it scared the crap out of
me. Had visions of my gear box failing! Strained the oil and checked
the sludge for metal and found none. So I decided to try another fresh
charge of Amsoil 75-140 gear oil to see what happens. Made a 1-1/2 hr.
flight and decided to drain again.
In that short time the gear oil turned dark again. Don't know the
cause, but I'm not a happy camper, not at 12 dollars a quart!!!! So I
went in town and found a blend made by Kendall for $3.65 and put that in
for now. Will see in a little while how it does.
Meanwhile, I'm taking the Amsoil I drained to my supplier and going to
have a discussion!
A fellow flier said that he had some Redline gear oil in his and it came
out looking new like when he put it in two years before.
Anyway, I thought I would share my experience with the Amsoil. Now I'm
beginning to question the value of the 2 stroke I'm using! And I have
allot of it.
Terry - FireFly # 95
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| Subject: | Re: dodge tranny failures |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kelvin Kurkowski" <kkurkow@chase3000.com>
Guys, I didn't mean to "spout opinion" just related some lube experiences.
Incidentally, my tranny in my ford behind the Cummins is an NV 4500, same
as Dodge uses, it came out of a wrecked 96 Dodge. I do have a US Gear two
speed box between it and the transfer case, which gives me 10 usable gears
plus double overdrive, but does nothing to reduce the load on the tranny.
The only reason I mentioned it, because lubrication should be the only
difference, comparing two different gearboxes would not have been relevant.
My thoughts were that you guys are aviation's innovators, exploring the
boundaries with you're little aircraft, but some seem to not be aware of the
improvements in lubrication based on innovation in that industry.
When we first started researching synthetics, Mobile 1 was the only other
option, and I have a friend who had been working as a mechanic on the Alaska
pipeline project for a couple of years, and had experience with it on heavy
equipment. He said one season, then every lube seal would be leaking, the
Mobile 1 was not compatible with rubber seal compound at that time and it
would degrade the rubber very quickly. I know they have changed the
formulation, and that is much less of a problem today, but that's what
started us down this path, and in agriculture, Amsoil had the additional
products, to allow us to take advantage of the synthetics in almost every
application.
I'm not an Amsoil dealer, but we do buy the stuff by the barrel through a
fleet/ commercial account, which makes the price much better, and I know
price is a big consideration.
We have said, if would have had to go back to changing oil in equipment at
100 hours, like we used to, we would have to hire an extra person just for
oil changes.
Still learning a great deal from you're experiences as you relate them!!
Sorry again guys, Kelvin, Grant NE
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 12.30/04.00] Re: Kolb-List: dodge tranny
failures ...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>
> YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT OPINIONS!
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken korenek" <kkorenek@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: dodge tranny failures ...
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek <kkorenek@comcast.net>
> >
> > I thought the purpose of this list was to be a forum for the discussion
> > of Kolb related issues and not the venue to spew misguided hatred for an
> > American made product, which, by the way, is well received by many...
> >
> > Ken Korenek
> > N104KK
> >
> > artdog1512 wrote:
> >
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >A good friend of mine here uses a Dodge in very heavy
> > >service and has used Dodge spec synthetic in his 5 spd
> > >and has had two
> > >tranny failure in 150,000 mi (maybe related to not
> > >monitoring levels
> > >well
> > >enough,)
> > >
> > > the tranny failure wasn't because of monitoring
> > >the level of oil, the tranny failed because it's a
> > >Dodge.. their junk! i wouldn't own a chrysler product.
> > >those Cummins engines might last 500,000 miles but the
> > >rest of the truck won't. chryslers are notorious for
> > >tranny problems. ..... there are 2 kind of people that
> > >own chrysler products, those that have had tranny
> > >problems and those that will... tim
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________
> > >http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Amsoil gear oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Terry and others,
Thanks for sharing that story. I too was not satisfied with Amsoil engine oil in
the cycle. I do however use Amsoil gear oil in the shaft drive. I have not drained
it since last summer and if it's dark, I will switch over to Mobil 1. I
have not had any problems with Mobil 1 gear oil (75W-90) in my 447 gearbox as
it drains clear after 50 hours of flying (the average time I fly during a year).
Klotz synthetic 50:1 in the fuel works well for me.
Ralph
Original Firestar
17 years flying it
-- Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Ralph,
Interesting that you made that post about the Amsoil turning dark in
your 4 stroke motorcycle
Last year after reading the posts about the benefits of using synthetic
oil in the gear reduction box, I decided to try it. It was time for the
recommended change and I went looking. I also couldn't find the heavy
weight 80-140 recommended by Rotax. Since I am using Amsoil 2 cycle
mixing oil I called my supplier and asked if he had the gear oil in that
weight and he did.
Put the Amsoil in last year and ran it until now. Went to change it a
couple of days ago and was shocked to see it come out black. There was
black sludge built up on the drain plug and it scared the crap out of
me. Had visions of my gear box failing! Strained the oil and checked
the sludge for metal and found none. So I decided to try another fresh
charge of Amsoil 75-140 gear oil to see what happens. Made a 1-1/2 hr.
flight and decided to drain again.
In that short time the gear oil turned dark again. Don't know the
cause, but I'm not a happy camper, not at 12 dollars a quart!!!! So I
went in town and found a blend made by Kendall for $3.65 and put that in
for now. Will see in a little while how it does.
Meanwhile, I'm taking the Amsoil I drained to my supplier and going to
have a discussion!
A fellow flier said that he had some Redline gear oil in his and it came
out looking new like when he put it in two years before.
Anyway, I thought I would share my experience with the Amsoil. Now I'm
beginning to question the value of the 2 stroke I'm using! And I have
allot of it.
Terry - FireFly # 95
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| Subject: | Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Has anyone put one of these motors on a kolb MKIII recently? If so let
me know what you think. I have a new 582 but may consider selling it if
one of these is better. Thanks everyone.
Giovanni Day
MKIII should start covering the wings in a week or so. :)
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"Engine is a Verner 1400. It develops 80 HP. It is 4 cycle air cooled,
burns
3.3 gph, weighs 165 lbs total including oil cooler. It has a 13 amp
alternator. The engine has less than 60 hours since new and TBO is 1200
hours. Verner WEB site is http://verneraircraftengins.com . He wants
$4000
for it. It has the belt drive."
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| Subject: | Re: Amsoil gear oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Oil preference is like religion....everyone thinks he has the right one!
-Me, I like Valvoline products, ever since about 20 years ago reading
their racing oil had the lowest friction rating. Now I use their
semi-synthetic oils in all my more valuable engines. For a pretty
good in-store stock of the less common grades try Pep Boys.
-BB do not archive
Terry wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
>
>Ralph,
>
>Interesting that you made that post about the Amsoil turning dark in
>your 4 stroke motorcycle
>
>Last year after reading the posts about the benefits of using synthetic
>oil in the gear reduction box, I decided to try it. It was time for the
>recommended change and I went looking. I also couldn't find the heavy
>weight 80-140 recommended by Rotax. Since I am using Amsoil 2 cycle
>mixing oil I called my supplier and asked if he had the gear oil in that
>weight and he did.
>
>Put the Amsoil in last year and ran it until now. Went to change it a
>couple of days ago and was shocked to see it come out black. There was
>black sludge built up on the drain plug and it scared the crap out of
>me. Had visions of my gear box failing! Strained the oil and checked
>the sludge for metal and found none. So I decided to try another fresh
>charge of Amsoil 75-140 gear oil to see what happens. Made a 1-1/2 hr.
>flight and decided to drain again.
>
>In that short time the gear oil turned dark again. Don't know the
>cause, but I'm not a happy camper, not at 12 dollars a quart!!!! So I
>went in town and found a blend made by Kendall for $3.65 and put that in
>for now. Will see in a little while how it does.
>
>Meanwhile, I'm taking the Amsoil I drained to my supplier and going to
>have a discussion!
>
>A fellow flier said that he had some Redline gear oil in his and it came
>out looking new like when he put it in two years before.
>
>Anyway, I thought I would share my experience with the Amsoil. Now I'm
>beginning to question the value of the 2 stroke I'm using! And I have
>allot of it.
>
>Terry - FireFly # 95
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
John Williamson put one on his Kolbra for a very short time after switching
from a Jabaru and then switched to a Rotax 912S. We never heard why. John is
at MV right now but maybe when he gets back he will tell us why.
I'm not very objective towards 2 strokes. I had three forced landings with
my Weedhopper due to 2 stoke issues. Granted I didn't have a EIS computer
monitoring the health of that Chotia engine every few milliseconds but why
should you HAVE TOO keep that close track of a "aircraft engine" to stay
airborne. I also think that Rotax is gouging everyone with their high
prices. I would sincerely like to see some other 4 stroke be able to step
forward and challenge Rotax and put some competition in the light plane
engine market. I have chosen to put a VW on my MKIIIc and I'm very happy
with it. Granted it was a very involved installation, its a bit heavy and
the reduction drive is a belt drive. On the up side it is relatively cheap,
powerful and reliable.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
>
> Has anyone put one of these motors on a kolb MKIII recently? If so let
> me know what you think. I have a new 582 but may consider selling it if
> one of these is better. Thanks everyone.
>
>
> Giovanni Day
> MKIII should start covering the wings in a week or so. :)
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Rick,
I have been flying Uls for a year now and have had one engine
out. It was a 532 of unknown time and it lost a rod bearing. I figure
this is my problem as I should have been more thorough in knowing the
history of my motor. This is why I have a new 582 on my new unfinished
Kolb at the moment. I would like to put a 4 stroke on it but rotax is
very expensive both in initial purchase and repairs. The thing that
concerns me about this verner is 2 cylinder only (vibration), no one
seems to know much about them, parts availability and weight to power
ratio. I will be interested in what john had to say.
Giovanni
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Throttle Lever Broke |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "M. Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
List,
Fortunately it was on my preflight inspection while actuating the
throttle with the engine off, but the lever broke mostly off. It let go
right where it's welded to the flat with the pivot/friction/mount bolt
through it. Could have been a problem at just the wrong moment. I had
installed a throttle stop (in the form of a piece of angle bolted to the
flat) which would contact the longeron to keep the cable from being
stretched beyond WOT because it seemed like a bad idea for the cable to take
that abuse. This may have altered the "geometry" so that greater stress was
put on the lever tube where it was welded to the flat. It broke right where
you would expect it to - right where the weld ended. A contributing factor
may be my beginners' ham-fistedness. There was absolutely no hint of
weakness beforehand, just the failure. There did not appear to be rust on
the interior of the tube. I guess I will figure out some kind of
reinforcement for this area when I repair it. Can I weld on this with my
wire-feed welder, or should I take it to someone with a TIG machine? Or
should I just get a new one from Kolb?
Naturally, I will pay extra attention to this during future preflights.
You may want to look at yours.
M. Domenic Perez
FS II 503
Vaughn, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Lever Broke |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "stephen e. spence" <sspence@tm.net>
Go ahead and use your MIG, that's what the factory uses.
Steve Spence FF013
bldg Mk3X w/12S
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "M. Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Throttle Lever Broke
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "M. Domenic Perez"
<perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
>
> List,
> Fortunately it was on my preflight inspection while actuating the
> throttle with the engine off, but the lever broke mostly off. It let go
> right where it's welded to the flat with the pivot/friction/mount bolt
> through it. Could have been a problem at just the wrong moment. I had
> installed a throttle stop (in the form of a piece of angle bolted to the
> flat) which would contact the longeron to keep the cable from being
> stretched beyond WOT because it seemed like a bad idea for the cable to
take
> that abuse. This may have altered the "geometry" so that greater stress
was
> put on the lever tube where it was welded to the flat. It broke right
where
> you would expect it to - right where the weld ended. A contributing factor
> may be my beginners' ham-fistedness. There was absolutely no hint of
> weakness beforehand, just the failure. There did not appear to be rust on
> the interior of the tube. I guess I will figure out some kind of
> reinforcement for this area when I repair it. Can I weld on this with my
> wire-feed welder, or should I take it to someone with a TIG machine? Or
> should I just get a new one from Kolb?
> Naturally, I will pay extra attention to this during future
preflights.
> You may want to look at yours.
>
> M. Domenic Perez
> FS II 503
> Vaughn, NM
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jimmy <jhankin@planters.net>
To those of you that fold your wings for storage.
On the forward wing bolt and the strut, where the strut bolts to the cage, do you
use those spacers to stabilize these attachment points?
If you use them, how do you install them and hold the wing in place while inserting
the bolts?
Do you use them at all?
Do Not Archive.
Thanks for an answer.
Jimmy Hankinson
912-863-7384
Rocky Ford, Ga. 30455
jhankin@planters.net
Kolb Firefly/447/275hrs
Local field, Pegasus/2000/Grass
Airport JYL/Sylvania, Ga.
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| Subject: | Re: Amsoil gear oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 5/14/2004 12:40:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
slyck@frontiernet.net writes:
Oil preference is like religion....everyone thinks he has the right one!
-Me, I like Valvoline products, ever since about 20 years ago reading
their racing oil had the lowest friction rating. Now I use their
semi-synthetic oils in all my more valuable engines. For a pretty
good in-store stock of the less common grades try Pep Boys.
-BB do not archive
Yep. And Valvoline makes a full synthetic gear oil. 75W-140, I use it.
Comes in a 1 qt. bottle, get it from Auto Zone [& others].
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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