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1. 02:25 AM - Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val (GeoR38@aol.com)
2. 02:50 AM - sumpin different (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 05:05 AM - Re: Aileron Counter-balance (Denny Rowe)
4. 05:09 AM - Thanks (Denny Rowe)
5. 05:31 AM - Re: sumpin different (Denny Rowe)
6. 05:34 AM - Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val (Denny Rowe)
7. 06:01 AM - oil temps tooo low??!! (Jim Gerken)
8. 06:28 AM - Re: Thanks (Christopher Armstrong)
9. 06:39 AM - tie downs (Paul Petty)
10. 06:47 AM - Re: Aileron Counter-balance (Larry Bourne)
11. 06:49 AM - Re: Aileron Counter-balance (Larry Bourne)
12. 06:56 AM - Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val (Larry Bourne)
13. 09:36 AM - Re: vote (jerb)
14. 09:36 AM - Re: vote (William George)
15. 09:51 AM - Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (William George)
16. 09:55 AM - Re: vote (Kirk Smith)
17. 10:25 AM - MV Flight (jhauck@elmore.rr.com)
18. 10:25 AM - MV Flight (jhauck@elmore.rr.com)
19. 10:47 AM - Re: vote (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
20. 11:42 AM - Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale (Giovanni Day)
21. 11:58 AM - boyd has landed (boyd young)
22. 01:20 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (John Willamson)
23. 01:24 PM - Re: FireFly Cross Country (John Willamson)
24. 01:34 PM - Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val (John Willamson)
25. 01:59 PM - pictures (Dallas Shepherd)
26. 02:25 PM - Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (John Willamson)
27. 02:27 PM - Re: Plans (LOREN7310@aol.com)
28. 02:34 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (G. Thompson)
29. 02:49 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (WillUribe@aol.com)
30. 03:06 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (Jack & Louise Hart)
31. 03:10 PM - Re: Portable Tie Downs (David Paule)
32. 03:10 PM - Carb Ice Detector (David Paule)
33. 03:25 PM - Fw: Kolb list- The World is FLAT (Mike Pierzina)
34. 03:27 PM - Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support ()
35. 03:36 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (jerb)
36. 04:08 PM - Re: vote (John Cooley)
37. 04:13 PM - Re: Sending Pictures (G. T. Alexander, Jr.)
38. 04:40 PM - Re: Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support (G. Thompson)
39. 04:40 PM - Re: Plans (woody)
40. 04:49 PM - EZ 4 U Will (Mike Pierzina)
41. 05:03 PM - Matronics Email List Photo Share (WillUribe@aol.com)
42. 05:18 PM - Re: Fw: Kolb list- The World is FLAT (jerb)
43. 05:29 PM - Re: Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
44. 05:56 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (WillUribe@aol.com)
45. 06:02 PM - Re: Fw: Kolb list- The World is FLAT (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
46. 07:16 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (Denny Rowe)
47. 07:16 PM - Answering messages (Larry Bourne)
48. 07:20 PM - Re: Posting Pictures (Larry Bourne)
49. 08:00 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 05/17/04 (WillUribe@aol.com)
50. 08:06 PM - Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering (WillUribe@aol.com)
51. 11:13 PM - Fw: MV Pictures (Larry Bourne)
52. 11:37 PM - Jim Hefner's Pictures (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 5/17/04 8:07:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kuffel@cyberport.net writes:
>
> So we are all together even if Betty is on crutches and I'm in a
> hospital bed or wheel chair. Even though the plane is destroyed we are
> looking forward to being active enough to host the Great Alaska Kolb
> Fly-All on their departure July 1.
>
> Take care and enjoy every day, we will,
>
> Tom, Betty and Valkyrie Kuffel
> Whitefish, MT Really building original FireStar now
>
>
and to this I can only say....Whew!! ......and God Bless all 3 of you (dog
included)
George Randolph
the Villages
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| Subject: | sumpin different |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 5/18/04 5:21:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GeoR38 writes:
>
> Well, folks, I am finally going north from Florida to visit for a month to
> Ohio, Pa, and Mich to visit my kids and grands. I don't expect to do this
> every year, so ....I am going to try to get my Kolb down here to Florida, so
> that I don't HAVE to go north every year. My problem is manyfold, I only have
> one 100 mile cross country under my belt since I started to fly ULs in '83.
Rich Swiderski has lent me some stuff to help in the navigation of the
puppy, such as an aircraft radio and GPS (as backup to my own). So I need to read
up on that, which I am doing.
I could fly to the edge of West Virginia as I have done that before, but the
rest of the route is totally beyond me. Has anyone on the list ever done it
before? I would rather land at small strips if possible, but I have done cement
many times.
help
Firestar driver of "by George" from The Villages....was Akron O
447, 3 blade Ivo,
204#...but losin
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Counter-balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Jim...
I do know this...that any counter-balance forse you add, will raise the
> "flutter envelope speed" so to speak...so a little is better than
> none...even if you dont get them 100%balanced..
> Dunno if it was the right way or not....!
>
> Don Gherardini
> FireFly 098...(bent and awaiting parts)
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
Jim, Don others,
I pretty much arrived at Dons conclusion when I did my Mk-3.
I bought Kips (I think) left over Firestar counterbalances as he did not
balance his at all, and installed em on my bird. I did not like the way the
flat end on the balance weight looked so I machined a round tip on them
further lightening them.
The result is the ailerons are probably around 70% balanced, and as many
folks don't have flutter probs with no balancers installed, I am sure I will
not have any flutter issues.
I have had my bird up to 95mph and things are steady as can be.
My opinion is pop what you got on there with the weight slid as far forward
as possible and fly that thang.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 2SI 690L-70, PA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Thanks to all who offered advice on portable tie downs, now all I have to do is
decide if I am going to build somthing similar to the Claw tie downs, or stick
with my cheap dog stakes a little while longer.
Sincerely
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: sumpin different |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <GeoR38@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: sumpin different
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 5/18/04 5:21:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GeoR38
writes:
> >
> > Well, folks, I am finally going north from Florida to visit for a month
to
> > Ohio, Pa, and Mich to visit my kids and grands. I don't expect to do
this
> > every year, so ....I am going to try to get my Kolb down here to
Florida, so
> > that I don't HAVE to go north every year. My problem is manyfold, I only
have
> > one 100 mile cross country under my belt since I started to fly ULs in
'83.
>
George,
I can't help much on planning your trip other than to say make sure you have
all the charts and plan it all before hand.
I think I recall your bird is in the Akron area, If you have the time and
inclination to make a trip to my place 40 miles north East of Pittsburgh, I
would be happy to help go over your flight plans with you and maybe check
all the stops on the web to make sure you have all the current info.
I could throw in a Mk-3 ride or two to get you warmed up for the trip.
Also might be able to fly out to Akron to meet you and check out your bird
before it leaves the area.
Let me know,
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, Leechburg PA, 724-845-1431, I fly out of McVille airport
(P-37) grass field north east of Pittsburgh.
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| Subject: | Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
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> >
> > So we are all together even if Betty is on crutches and I'm in a
> > hospital bed or wheel chair. Even though the plane is destroyed we are
> > looking forward to being active enough to host the Great Alaska Kolb
> > Fly-All on their departure July 1.
> >
> > Take care and enjoy every day, we will,
> >
> > Tom, Betty and Valkyrie Kuffel
> > Whitefish, MT Really building original FireStar now
> >
Tom, Betty, & Valkyrie
> >You folks are a real inspiration to all, God bless, and a speedy recovery
to you.
Welcome Back,
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | oil temps tooo low??!! |
05/18/2004 07:58:45 AM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Gerken <gerken@us.ibm.com>
I need some advice from you engine gurus. My Mkiii with BMW flew last
week for the first time. The 1991 BMW R100 is a 4-cycle 1000cc air cooled
flat opposed twin with pressurized oil system with wet sump. To the basic
engine, I added a sump extension to lower the oil 2 inches away from the
crank and camshafts, and I put a pan cover on the bottom of that of quarter
inch aluminum. The aluminum pan cover plate is 12 x 18 inches, also
serving as the motor mount bed, connecting to the shock mounts near the
corners. Originally there was an external finned aluminum oil cooler on
the motorcycle this engine came from, but based on Hans' experience, I did
not use that. There is an oil temp sender unit threaded into a hole in the
side of the pan extension, submerged in the oil, detecting oil temp. This
sender reads ambient temp perfectly before flight. In flight, at ambient
temps of about 40 degrees F, the max oil temp I noted was 137 F. Figuring
it will go up linearly (i have been told by an expert that this is true),
at ambient of 80, the oil temp will read about 177.
I feel this may be too low of an operating oil temp. What do you guys
feel is a good oil temp to reach to drive out water and keep the engine
healthy? I understand the max should be kept below 250 or so, but what
about the minimum? Water boils off at 212 at sea level, but is about 175
degrees F enough to encourage the water to varporize and leave the oil even
though it doesn't actually boil off? Are there any other reasons this may
be too cool (besides the water issue)?
I will continue to evaluate this, but any input on desired temp ranges
would be helpfull. BTW, how does the Rotax 912 control oil temps, and what
range do those see in operation? Also, how are the temps measured, and
how can the sender units kept from being influenced by the metal they are
mounted by?
Jim Gerken
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
There was a very interesting how too on making claw like tie downs using
chain links and spikes from the hardware store in one of the recent
magazines. I bet you could have a real nice set for under $10 bucks and
only a few minutes work.
Try to see if I can find it again.
Topher
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Rowe
Subject: Kolb-List: Thanks
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Thanks to all who offered advice on portable tie downs, now all I have to do
is decide if I am going to build somthing similar to the Claw tie downs, or
stick with my cheap dog stakes a little while longer.
Sincerely
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Denny/Gang,
In addition to the "Claw" system there is a cheaper version of this system described
in the pages of April's edition of Sport Aviation starting on page 110.
This system uses chains verses the titanium legs. Cheaper but hey ya get what
ya pay for!
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Counter-balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
This raises a question.............the weights are to prevent aileron
flutter, right ?? Is it really necessary to have the ailerons fully
balanced to achieve this ?? Many Kolbs fly fine without weights, so if, as
in your case - and in my case - the weights are a little light, wouldn't
they still prevent flutter ?? Making mine longer would be awkward when
transporting. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken korenek" <kkorenek@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aileron Counter-balance
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek <kkorenek@comcast.net>
>
> James,
>
> I had to add weight to mine, too. Had to get rods about 4 inches
> longer than was supplied, just like what you are describing.
>
> I built my ailerons with out the "Homer Hump" and think they look a lot
> better with smooth edges.
>
> Haven't had a lick of trouble in almost 100 hrs of flying.
>
>
> Ken
>
>
> James and Cathy Tripp wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
<jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> >While trying to add the counter-balance weights to my ailerons the other
day, I discovered I didn't have enough weight material to bring the aileron
to the neutral position. Right now it looks like I need another couple of
inches of weight. Is the bottom of the wing suppose to be level before
trying to adjust the weights? Has anyone else had this problem? I built the
ailerons with 90 degree bends on all the ribs to get a smooth trailing edge
but I didn't think it would add all that much to the overall weight. What do
you think?
> >
> >James Tripp, FSII
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Counter-balance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hmmmm..............guess I shoulda read this 1st. Thanks Don.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aileron Counter-balance
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Jim...
>
> Search the archive about this....I asked the same question when I made
> mine....
>
> I do know this...that any counter-balance forse you add, will raise the
> "flutter envelope speed" so to speak...so a little is better than
> none...even if you dont get them 100%balanced..
> Also, I know from my GA expierience,
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| Subject: | Re: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
You were missed at MV. Glad you're going to be OK - VERY glad Val responded
to the recording - and I'll look forward to seeing you there next year.
I'll be passing a few 100 miles west of you in early Sept, so may be able to
make a side trip. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Kuffels" <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> Hope everyone at Monument Valley had a blast, and that the rest of us
> have just a much fun reading about it in the future.
>
> Short report on our status. Flew south through Lost Trail Pass on the
> Montana-Idaho border as a group of 3 planes to spend the weekend at
> Jackpot, Wendover, etc. Found the weather south of the pass was not
> flyable so we decided to return to Missoula. As the pilot in the back I
> lost track of the others. In looking for them didn't notice my manifold
> pressure was dropping (carb ice on a constant speed prop). Was also
> descending to get under the clouds right at the pass. Just before
> crossing I figured out I needed more power. Pushing in the throttle
> resulted in complete loss of power. 4 to 8 seconds later we were on the
> ground groaning and moaning.
>
> The pass summit is a tall ridge. I was able to put the plane in a very
> steep left turn, losing a lot of altitude in the process but impacted
> the trees more or less parallel to the ridge face.
>
> We were trapped in the airplane but I don't know of any other homebuilt
> structure which would have survived a 100 mph impact with the trees and
> ground. Injuries were extensive and we would not have survived the
> night. Fortunately, the Salmon, ID ground rescue folks were well
> prepared and with the help of COSPAS, FAA, MT Search and Rescue as well
> as the Salmon, ID 9-1-1 (via Verison cell phone) things went well. They
> got to us in a lightning quick 6 hours.
>
> Our dog Val stayed with us until rescue arrived. She even helped lead
> them to us. (50 feet away they still couldn't see the wreck site) But
> when the snowmobiles started to haul us out of the woods she bolted and
> wouldn't come back. After 10 days searching by over 100 volunteers she
> finally came to a tape in a car playing Betty and my voices calling her.
>
> So we are all together even if Betty is on crutches and I'm in a
> hospital bed or wheel chair. Even though the plane is destroyed we are
> looking forward to being active enough to host the Great Alaska Kolb
> Fly-All on their departure July 1.
>
> Take care and enjoy every day, we will,
>
> Tom, Betty and Valkyrie Kuffel
> Whitefish, MT Really building original FireStar now
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Paul your correct, those with dial in access can be waiting all afternoon
downloading list messages if there are a large amount of attached photos or
files. I prefer the present service configuration. If you need to get a
photo to someone send it direct or if you need input from other members
post a message on the list with the link to your own web page for them to
view it. Many internet service providers (ISP) include a limited amount
of space for the subscriber to host a web site.
jerb
At 06:37 PM 5/17/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
>Kolbers,
>I don't want to start an argument here. However I like this list and I'm
>on a crappy dial up connection and will most likely be this way forever
>due to logistics. Also I have been a list member for going on three years
>now and never received a virus from any list members that post to it. I
>just feel that if Matt unleashes the list for photo attachments in e-mails
>to the list I will have to sit and wait for hours for it to download. I
>have learned that most all of us are so proud of our aircraft and doing
>this would make my getting a post to the list a very time consuming
>ordeal. Us Kolbers are very trigger happy with photos I will be the first
>to admit this! Like I said before, if you want to share a photo instantly
>upload it some where. Create a link to it. And place it in the e-mail to
>the list.The list will allow a link and if someone wants to look at it
>they can click on it or skip the subject all together! Now if it's a
>subject that needs to be in the archives I say use!
> the PhotoShare that Matt has given us. When I sought information about
> Kolb aircraft in the beginning, I used this allot! And I say if you want
> to promote Kolb aircraft, as I do, update your websites so that folks
> that come here and to your web sites and can read updated information on
> how your flying Kolb aircraft or building Kolb aircraft is going. I think
> of it this way. We all love our Kolb's. I know I do and mine is still in
> the OR! I feel that we as builders/pilots of Kolb aircraft need to
> support the company because if we don't, we may not have TNK in the
> future when we (and I am sure I will) need them. :-)
>I will be glad when all the Monument Valley troopers return and give
>reports. This is what I live for these days.
>I read today where a Vans RV6 collapsed it's landing gear at MV over the
>weekend. Wonder if he was under attack from a Kolbra!
>Well it's off to Ms.Dixie for some tube sealing and inventory. Gezzz guys
>sure got a shop full of stuff... Reckon I will ever finish?
>
>Paul Petty
>Building Ms. Dixie
>Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
>do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
There are lots of alternatives to get pictures viewed. If they are
linked, either to Matt's server or to your ISP web space, listers can
choose to view or not to view. Otherwise, we are all force fed photos
for which we may have no interest or bandwidth.
I vote No.
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
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On May 17, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
>
> I vote no too.
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| Subject: | Re: Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
I will echo Dennis' comments on the Verner and add a few. Mine is very
smooth at all RPMs except below 1600 (800 prop).
The performance I get is identical to the previously installed 582.
Same climb and cruise, but sips gas. My engine is one model later than
Dennis' but I think I think the changes are minimal.
The advertised 80 HP will not be realized in practice as it occurs at
redline 5000 rpm. If the prop is properly pitched you will barely touch
5000 at WOT in level flight.
With the prop loaded in a climb at full throttle you will see perhaps
4600-4700, approximately 77 hp.
The Verner is essentially hand made. Czech steel is legendary.
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
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On May 17, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
> << Has anyone put one of these motors on a kolb MKIII recently? If so
> let me
> know what you think. I have a new 582 but may consider selling it if
> one of
> these is better. Thanks everyone. Giovanni Day >>
>
> Giovanni, and Kolbers -
>
> As you've heard me mention before, I have a Verner-1400 on my Mark-3,
> and I
> like it a lot.
> Because I was (still am) completely igonorant in the care & feeding of
> 2-stroke engines, getting a 4-stroke powerplant for my Kolb was my only
> option. "Recently" for me means I've been flying it regularly since
> summer
> of 2003. (Flew once in 2002, and was grounded for 6 months due to bent
> landing gear and the need to get training in a Kolb, but that's another
> story.) I have just under 20 hours so far.
>
> Yes, it's only got 2 cylinders, but it's well-balanced, and vibration
> is not
> a problem. It idles smoothly as low as 800 rpm. Okay - I need to
> avoid
> prolonged operation at btwn 2200-2600 rpm, as this seems to be a
> resonating
> frequency zone, but that's no big deal. It's too slow for flight
> power, and
> too high for ground power settings, so I never operate at those rpms
> anyway.
> Lycomings and Continentals have a similar "no operate" zone because of
> resonance.
>
> Plenty of power for my Mark-3, even considering that it is a
> 70-hp-continuous engine. (You get 80 hp at its max rpm of 5000, but
> only
> for 5 minutes max. Max continuous rpm is 4000, at which you get 70
> hp.)
> I'm able to maintain level flight as slow as 3200 rpm (2-to-1 prop
> reduction). Burns 2 gph at this setting, and airspeed is about 45
> mph. At
> 4000 rpm, I'm seeing about 72 mph. Still in the process of tweaking
> my prop
> pitch for best performance - will be increasing it up to 12 degrees
> for my
> next flight. (Powerfin-72, 3-blades)
>
> You are right - not much knowledge base on Verners here in the US,
> compared
> to Rotax. They are much more popular in Europe, being that they come
> from
> the Czech Republic. But getting parts is not a problem, via the US
> distributors in Orlando and Phoenix.
>
> The 1400 is a little heavier than the Rotax-912, by about 20 lbs. The
> tradeoff is fewer moving parts and no radiator/coolant to worry about.
> (Air-cooled, but it does has an oil cooler.) Uses the same two Bing-64
> carbs that are on the 912.
>
> As somebody mentioned, John Williamson tried a Verner in his Kolbra
> for a
> short while last year before he traded it for his 912S. His was a
> model
> 133, with gearbox instead of a belt-drive. I think his engine had
> troubles
> idling smoothly, but I do not know the exact nature of his problem
> (carb,
> timing?) Ask John when he returns from Monument Valley.
>
> Sorry for the long-winded response.
> But I hope my two cents here helps you in making a decision.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> N93DK, in
> Cedar Crest, NM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
NO
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jhauck@elmore.rr.com
Use http://www.onspeed.com/?A=web2mail to transform dial up
connections to near broadband speed. Reccomended by Web2Mail
Hi Gang:
RON Albuquerque, NM, with relatives. Will depart for Gantt IAP in the morning.
Hope to be home by Thu or Fri if the wind shifts on me.
Met up with John Williamson at Canon City, Colorado, on the way to MV. 37 mph
cross wind upon landing at Canon City. BTW, I did not land on the paved strip,
but found a spot between the taxiway and the active to touch down, several times
before I came to a stop. This is the most wind I have ever flown in. It
has been that way since day two of my flight out.
Have seen and experience some awesomely beautiful country. We Americans are certainly
blessed with a beautiful country.
Our flyin, although unorganized and unplanned, was a 100% success. Was great to
renew aquaintences and make new ones. We, indeed, have a great Kolb family.
If you don't believe me, then make the Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin next
year.
See ya'll when I get home,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jhauck@elmore.rr.com
------------------------------------------------
Browse the web by email! mailto:www@web2mail.com
adding the web page you want as the subject line
e.g. get CNN headlines with the subject: cnn.com
------------------------------------------------
Hi Gang:
RON Albuquerque, NM, with relatives. Will depart for Gantt IAP in the morning.
Hope to be home by Thu or Fri if the wind shifts on me.
Met up with John Williamson at Canon City, Colorado, on the way to MV. 37 mph
cross wind upon landing at Canon City. BTW, I did not land on the paved strip,
but found a spot between the taxiway and the active to touch down, several times
before I came to a stop. This is the most wind I have ever flown in. It
has been that way since day two of my flight out.
Have seen and experience some awesomely beautiful country. We Americans are certainly
blessed with a beautiful country.
Our flyin, although unorganized and unplanned, was a 100% success. Was great to
renew aquaintences and make new ones. We, indeed, have a great Kolb family.
If you don't believe me, then make the Kolb Unplanned/Unorganized Flyin next
year.
See ya'll when I get home,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Agree - No
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "William George" <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: vote
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: William George
<wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
>
> There are lots of alternatives to get pictures viewed. If they are
> linked, either to Matt's server or to your ISP web space, listers can
> choose to view or not to view. Otherwise, we are all force fed photos
> for which we may have no interest or bandwidth.
>
> I vote No.
>
> Bill George
> Hawaii
> Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On May 17, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
>
> >
> > I vote no too.
>
>
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| Subject: | Verner 1400 & Powerfin for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Are these duel ignition? I could not seem to find the info on their web
site. What about noise factor, is the exhaust loud? Thanks again for
all the good info.
Giovanni
-
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"Erich Weaver" <erich_weaver@urscorp.com>,
"CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>, "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>,
"Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>, "JIM HEFNER" <HEFNER_JIM@msn.com>,
"John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>,
"john hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>,
"Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>, <eagle1@commspeed.net>,
"Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
what a ride.
i just got home from MV... yesterday i got as far as cedar city. landed with
25 gusting to 35. and i thought i was tired when i landed at MV.. while taxing
crosswise to the wing the tail would weathervain into the wind, i had to
wait between gust to taxi.... got it tied down and checked with the fss for
weather... they told me it was going to be better this morning, tues. the forcast
was for 12 to 15 mph surface winds.... when i got to the airport it was
almost as bad as when i had landedhad i stayed on the ground i would have likely
had to wait for 4 or 5 days......fss told me when i visited ther office that
it would be better as i got up out of the valley. i headed north and climed
to 12.000 ft through moderate to boarderline severe turbulance in order
to clear the mountain ridge with enough margin for safty... at 1000 ft agl
i almost turned back. at about 11.500 it started to smoth out... at 12.000
it was smoooooooth as glass. and boy what a tail wind.... it averaged 40
to 45 or so, but with a 75 mph indicated, the gps went to 137.6 mph... and that
is not a typo... do the math that is over 62 mph. i wonder if that is a record
in a kolb? it made up for all the head wind i had going to MV and from MV
over to huricane. it made it possible to make it home without the fuel stop
planned for just over 1/2 way home.... salt lake center was good to me again,
but did request a phone call after i got home and after a short conversation
they were once again happy.
boyd
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| Subject: | Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Hi Matt,
Don't change a thing on the Kolb List.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | FireFly Cross Country |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Hi Jack and All,
Great job Jack.
This is what I like to see on the list.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | We're Baaack: Tom , Betty & Val |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Hi Tom, Betty and Valkyrie Kuffel,
Just returned from Monument Valley and you guys were very much missed. We
talked about you anyway!
Real glad you are back on the list and I am still planning on stopping by
Whitefish, MT the end of June.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dallas Shepherd" <cen23954@centurytel.net>
I vote no! I have dial up and I would have to forget the Kolb list.
Dallas Shepherd
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| Subject: | Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
The 2004 event is now in the bag.
We had 33 people participate. (Last year we had 12)
We had 7 aircraft fly to the event. (Last year we had 5)
We had 4 aircraft that were trailed to the event. (Last year we had 3)
The winners of our event categories were:
Youngest Participant: Kendall Weaver, 8 years
Most Experienced Participant: George Thompson
Shortest Distance to Drive Participant: Bob Thompson, 275 miles
Longest Distance to Drive Participants: Karen and Larry Cottrell, 1050.7
miles
Shortest Distance to Fly Participant: Eric Kranke, Cessna 172, 172 miles.
Longest Distance to Fly Participant: John Hauck, Kolb MarkIII, 1659 miles.
Best Looking Kolb at the Event: John Hauck, Kolb MarkIII, Miss P'Fer.
I want to thank all the great Kolb folks that made this Gathering so
spectacular. The scenery is probably the best in the world, but the people
are what makes this so memorable.
I will have this trip on my website in a few days
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: LOREN7310@aol.com
thanks much, do you have a twin star? Where are you located?
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
It's working good as is. Don't screw with it.
Az. Bald Eagle
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Posting Pictures
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Don't change a thing on the Kolb List.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
I vote no to attaching pictures.
It's so easy to post a picture.
Here is a link to a picture I took at Monument Valley, see how easy.
http://members.aol.com/willuribe/mv.jpg
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX but back in Buffalo, NY
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
Will,
What is the logic of parking the third aircraft from the left on its nose?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
At 05:46 PM 5/18/04 EDT, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
>I vote no to attaching pictures.
>It's so easy to post a picture.
>Here is a link to a picture I took at Monument Valley, see how easy.
>http://members.aol.com/willuribe/mv.jpg
>
>Will Uribe
>El Paso, TX but back in Buffalo, NY
>FireStar II N4GU
>C-172 N2506U
>http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
>do not archive
>
>
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Portable Tie Downs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
I'd skip the coil tie-down kind. I've had them pull out enough times that I
can't recommend them. They don't hold as well for loads pulling up as stakes
or blades.
I currently use stakes and pound them in with a 4 lb mallet. Haven't had a
failure in any location that uses at least two of them.
In regard to the material, titanium, that's the best material made for
stakes or other tie-down hardware. Too bad that they aren't straight stakes
with a gadget to connect two or more.
My stakes are titanium and I've been using them for a decade on Big Hammer,
my Cessna 180, in all sorts of back-country places. Just about every ground
except solid rock and soft mud.
Again, please skip the coil types.
Dave Paule
===========
Here's URL for the best tiedowns you can buy, made by Randy Simpson, on
the FLY-UL list.
http://www.airtimemfg.com/
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| Subject: | Carb Ice Detector |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
First off, we're all real glad that you're both alive!
That was quite a story.
For those who fly carbureted aircraft, if it's susceptible to carb ice, the
carb ice detector that Aircraft Spruce sells (it's detector, not a
temperature gauge) works well. I strongly recommend it. Mine detects carb
ice at levels where there's no other indication, and always gives me plenty
of time to get carb heat on.
The interesting thing is that we rarely get carb ice - now I know. I don't
use carb heat anymore unless that red light comes on. ANd yes, the red light
can be tested and sensitivity adjusted.
Speaking of carb ice, what do you all recommend for the Kolbs? My FSII has a
503 and no carb heat.
Dave Paule
Big Hammer
Cessna 180
==========
"....didn't notice my manifold
pressure was dropping (carb ice on a constant speed prop)."
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| Subject: | Fwd: Kolb list- The World is FLAT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Below is a message that I sent to Matt...
( Paul: note how "whether" is spelled, He he he,
Three years?...Liar,liar, pants on fire ! )
do not archive
--------- Forwarded Message ---------
Hey Matt,
Chicken little has said the SKY IS FALLING and everybody is running for
cover....
They really DON"T understand how the picture exchange works.... It would
be nice....If it's not too much work , To have a TWO WEEK TRIAL....Then they
would REALLY KNOW whether or not they like it...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN - Kolb List
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| Subject: | Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <timwarlick@bellsouth.net>
I am now to the point of my building process that I am installing the Plexiglas
on my Mark 3 Classic doors. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to hold the
doors open while getting in/out of the cockpit? Please post or email me directly
ideas and pictures.
Thanks,
Tim Warlick
Kolb Mark 3 Classic - BMW powered
Mobile, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
The yellow plane next to the Kolb, is that what they mean by "nose
dragger". 6
)
jerb
At 05:46 PM 5/18/04 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
>I vote no to attaching pictures.
>It's so easy to post a picture.
>Here is a link to a picture I took at Monument Valley, see how easy.
>http://members.aol.com/willuribe/mv.jpg
>
>Will Uribe
>El Paso, TX but back in Buffalo, NY
>FireStar II N4GU
>C-172 N2506U
>http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
>do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Me too. A 26.4 connection speed on a dial-up modem can take forever to
download big pics.
Do not archive
John Cooley
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: vote
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
I agree with Paul, I Vote No.
jerb
At 07:22 AM 5/17/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
>Fellow Kolbers,
>If we are voting on weather to allow attachments to the list, my vote
>is
>no. Not all of us have the luxury of high speed internet service and
with
>everyone attaching photos, downloading e-mail from the list could prove
to
>be quite time consuming. Also the threat of a virus coming through is
far
>greater.
>If one wishes to post a photo for instant viewing I suggest doing it
this
>way. Upload the photo to your ISP's server then post the link like this
>http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/Pc100012.jpg easy as pie! All you
>need to do this is a file transfer protocol program or some where on
>someone's server like Yahoo.
>
>Paul Petty
>Building Ms. Dixie
>Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sending Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Those whose Internet Service Provider (ISP) gives free web/storage space,
take advantage of that. (Mine gives as much as 60MB-Ten for each of 6 email
addresses that come with my monthly service fee. AOL gives some I think and
I'm sure many others do.) Upload the image and put the Internet address
(URL) in the message like Will, John H. and others do.
Those who don't have such a generous ISP could use one of the free services
such as shutterfly.com, kodak.com or photos.yahoo.com and I'm sure others (I
have no financial interest in any of them.)
These services allow you to upload pictures of any size (even multiple sizes
of the same image-small for the dial access people and big for the high
speed folks), identify the size in the name of the image (e.g.
vamoose_75K.jpg or realistically for BigLar, vamoose_3MB.jpg) and then send
the URL of the image in an email. The added benefit of this is that, if the
photographer is not looking for royalties and sends the highest resolution
s/he has and it really hits your hot button as a great image (like John H.'s
"Anaktuvuk Pass, Alaska" or one of BigLar's butterflies), you can order a
copy of the print at a fairly reasonable price. The dial up folks can look
at the smaller image and decide if it is worth the download time to look at
the big 'un.
As for looking and chatting, after you are in your chat/forum area, open a
2nd browser window and in that one, go to the URL of the image that you want
to discuss.
If it is not obvious, I vote NO to pictures on the list.
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| Subject: | Re: Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "G. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I had the simplest door holder opener on my Firestar. It was only a simply
coil spring about 3/8 to 1/2 inch in diameter. When it was out straight
(open) it easily held the door open. To close the door, simply push on the
spring to cause it to break into a U and the door comes down. It was a
Marine product, but I am afraid I no longer have the address. You could make
one.
Az Bald Eagle
----- Original Message -----
From: <timwarlick@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <timwarlick@bellsouth.net>
>
> I am now to the point of my building process that I am installing the
Plexiglas on my Mark 3 Classic doors. Does anyone have a suggestion on how
to hold the doors open while getting in/out of the cockpit? Please post or
email me directly ideas and pictures.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Warlick
> Kolb Mark 3 Classic - BMW powered
> Mobile, Alabama
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
I have Twinstar and a highly modified Mk3. I am also in the process of
rebuilding another mk3. Also at my strip I have 2 more mk3's and a
Slingshot. It is like Kolb Central here in Windsor Ontario. (Just south of
Detroit)
----- Original Message -----
From: <LOREN7310@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Plans
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: LOREN7310@aol.com
>
> thanks much, do you have a twin star? Where are you located?
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hi Will,
OK , that looks Great....So how do "I" do that... and remember..., speak
engish,I don't know all that computer LINGO...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
do not archive
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WillUribe@aol.com
I vote no to attaching pictures.
It's so easy to post a picture.
Here is a link to a picture I took at Monument Valley, see how easy.
http://members.aol.com/willuribe/mv.jpg
Will Uribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
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| Subject: | Matronics Email List Photo Share |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> >> If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
>> following information along with your email message and files:
>>
>>
>> >>>
>>> >>>> 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
>>>> 2) Your Full Name:
>>>> 3) Your Email Address:
>>>> 4) One line Subject description:
>>>> 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
>>>> 6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
>>>>
>>>
>> Email pictures and files along with the information above to:
>>
>> >>>
>>> >>>> pictures@matronics.com
>>>
>> Please note that the adding of your files to the Photo Share Directory is a
>> semi-manual process and will take a few days to become available. A message
>> will be posted to the Email List(s) you indicated in #1 above with a link
>> to the new Photo Share when it is available.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Kolb list- The World is FLAT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Besides the issue for those with dial in access, photos quickly fill up
ones mail box. The next problem is the pixels count of the photos, some
don't understand how photo resolution impacts the size of the
attachment. Next thing we know our mail boxes are over flowing with
pictures of members last flight, vacation, flowers, and butterflies (Sorry
Lar - he does it right by putting them on his web site). I still vote NO
which appears to be the sentiment of majority of those who have responded
so as they say test period, we don't need no stinkin test period. 8
)
jerb
At 06:22 PM 5/18/04 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
>Hey Guys,
> Below is a message that I sent to Matt...
>
> ( Paul: note how "whether" is spelled, He he he,
> Three years?...Liar,liar, pants on fire ! )
>
>do not archive
>
>
>--------- Forwarded Message ---------
>
>Hey Matt,
> Chicken little has said the SKY IS FALLING and everybody is
> running for cover....
>
> They really DON"T understand how the picture exchange works....
> It would be nice....If it's not too much work , To have a TWO WEEK
> TRIAL....Then they would REALLY KNOW whether or not they like it...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN - Kolb List
>
>
>--------- End Forwarded Message ---------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Tim
I have a door prop that works quite well for me. I made it out of left over
5/16 Kolb aluminum tubing a few pop rivets and a one inch square sheet of
light gage aluminum. See the photo at
http://www.geocities.com/NeilsenRM/images/DOORPO.JPG .
The photo is kind of busy but the door prop is the raw aluminum parts in the
photo. The hinges are all pop rivets. It takes a bit of trial and error but
you will end up with a door prop that is always there and is as light as it
can get. The short end that extends past the hinge point has the one inch
sheet pop riveted to it to keep the prop from going too far over center. You
merely lift the door fully then push the prop over center which locks the
door open.. When closed the prop folds automatically up out of the way
between the door and the door frame. The door will stay open in most
situations except engine start up or taxiing over rough ground. I kind of
figured it wouldn't last very long but they are still working seven years
later.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: <timwarlick@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Need suggestion on Mark 3 door support
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <timwarlick@bellsouth.net>
>
> I am now to the point of my building process that I am installing the
Plexiglas on my Mark 3 Classic doors. Does anyone have a suggestion on how
to hold the doors open while getting in/out of the cockpit? Please post or
email me directly ideas and pictures.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Warlick
> Kolb Mark 3 Classic - BMW powered
> Mobile, Alabama
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
> Will,
>
> What is the logic of parking the third aircraft from the left on its nose?
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
I heard John Hauck say the RV was on it's knees to pay homage to all the
Kolbs that made the trip.
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Kolb list- The World is FLAT |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I have cable access to the internet and I also vote NO
Do Not Archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fwd: Kolb list- The World is FLAT
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Besides the issue for those with dial in access, photos quickly fill up
> ones mail box. The next problem is the pixels count of the photos, some
> don't understand how photo resolution impacts the size of the
> attachment. Next thing we know our mail boxes are over flowing with
> pictures of members last flight, vacation, flowers, and butterflies (Sorry
> Lar - he does it right by putting them on his web site). I still vote NO
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> > Will,
> >
> > What is the logic of parking the third aircraft from the left on its
nose?
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> > Jackson, MO
>
> I heard John Hauck say the RV was on it's knees to pay homage to all the
> Kolbs that made the trip.
>
> Will Uribe
Seriously,
Someone mentioned that an RV had a gear failure at MV over the weekend, I
guess that be the one. :-)
Dennis Rowe, Mk-3, PA
do not archive
PS: I also like the list the way it is.
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| Subject: | Answering messages |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hey guys, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd appreciate it if you'd leave a piece
of the message you're answering so's the rest of us know what you're talking
about. Thanks. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Posting Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Naw, it's to keep it from blowing away in the wind. John Wood.,
please forgive us.......we mean it in fun. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Posting Pictures
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> The yellow plane next to the Kolb, is that what they mean by "nose
> dragger". 6
> )
> jerb
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 05/17/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> > Will,
> >
> > What is the logic of parking the third aircraft from the left on its
nose?
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> > Jackson, MO
>
> I heard John Hauck say the RV was on it's knees to pay homage to all the
> Kolbs that made the trip.
>
> Will Uribe
>Seriously,
>Someone mentioned that an RV had a gear failure at MV over the weekend, I
>guess that be the one. :-)
Yes, the nose gear collapsed on landing, no one was hurt. John Wood can give
you more details on what happen.
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX but working in Buffalo NY
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
For the record, on Friday I flew from Buffalo, NY to attend the Monument
Valley Gathering over the weekend then flew back on Monday.
Those were long flights but it was worth attending.
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX but working in Buffalo, NY
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
do not archive
=A0
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley 2004 Kolb Gathering
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> The 2004 event is now in the bag.
>
> We had 33 people participate. (Last year we had 12)
> We had 7 aircraft fly to the event. (Last year we had 5)
> We had 4 aircraft that were trailed to the event. (Last year we had 3)
>
> The winners of our event categories were:
> Youngest Participant: Kendall Weaver, 8 years
> Most Experienced Participant: George Thompson
> Shortest Distance to Drive Participant: Bob Thompson, 275 miles
> Longest Distance to Drive Participants: Karen and Larry Cottrell, 1050.7
> miles
> Shortest Distance to Fly Participant: Eric Kranke, Cessna 172, 172 miles.
> Longest Distance to Fly Participant: John Hauck, Kolb MarkIII, 1659 miles.
> Best Looking Kolb at the Event: John Hauck, Kolb MarkIII, Miss P'Fer.
>
> I want to thank all the great Kolb folks that made this Gathering so
> spectacular. The scenery is probably the best in the world, but the people
> are what makes this so memorable.
>
> I will have this trip on my website in a few days
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Jim Hefner was kind enuf to send me a link to some of the early pictures from last
weekend, and has given me permission to publish the link on the List......................
www.gogittum.comhttp://groups.msn.com/HefnerFamilySite/monumentvalley2004.msnw
These are great pictures, and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of them, as
he publishes them. I think his method might be a way for others to solve the
current controversy, and provide a way to quickly publish pictures to the List.
I'm working on mine, but doubt if I'll get them published tonight.
Bob Dalton took a bunch of very nice pics while there, too, and I'd sure
like to see some of them. Bob.........?? Big Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
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| Subject: | Jim Hefner's Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Let's try pasting that URL................
http://groups.msn.com/HefnerFamilySite/monumentvalley2004.msnw
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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