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1. 05:19 AM - Monument Valley (John Jung)
2. 06:36 AM - Hauling Kolbs over long distances (H MITCHELL)
3. 07:58 AM - Re: Hauling Kolbs over long distances (John Hauck)
4. 08:11 AM - Re: Vic buys a B-1 (David Paule)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: Monument Valley (Larry Bourne)
6. 10:23 AM - Re: Intercom system (jerb)
7. 01:00 PM - Re: original firestar (Gary r. voigt)
8. 03:19 PM - Re: [ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share (jerb)
9. 04:31 PM - Trip Photos Update (John Willamson)
10. 04:58 PM - Re: Trip Photos Update (Larry Bourne)
11. 06:02 PM - Re: Trip Photos Update (Bob Dalton)
12. 06:25 PM - Re: Trip Photos Update (Don Gherardini)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <johnjung@compusenior.com>
Group,
Here is what I have to add to what others have already written about the Monument
Valley experience. Meeting and putting faces on other list members was similar
to meeting at the Kolb tent at Oshkosh or Sun-N-Fun. Only we had more time
to get to know each other. I have always enjoyed talking to other pilots, and
Kolb owners seem to be a special group of pilots.
Saturday morning was great weather, low winds, and I had a beautiful flight through
the Valley, taking pictures and flying through gaps and along side 800 ft
cliffs, about half way up. It would easily rate in my top 10 most interesting
flights over my 16 years and 500+ hours of flying.
Big Lar's pictures of my takeoff are the most eye catching that I have ever seen
of my plane. Thanks, Lar.
I did find the runway to be a little tricky. I still don't know exactly why, but
the runway was uphill, into the face of a cliff, and at 5200 ft altitude. I
guess I will just be extra carefull when flying into a runway with any of these
things.
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
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| Subject: | Hauling Kolbs over long distances |
Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:33:07 -0400
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
George Randolph et al,
Hauling my Mk3 was a real challenge. Careful planning really paid off. I filled
a big box with 2x4 blocks, battery-powered drill, drive screws, screw eyes and
matching bits plus a mile of rope and some foam padding. I rented a U-haul truck
with a 24' bed, (no cab-over) and wood floors. Located a ditch for the trucks
rear wheels (loading dock not available), removed wings and hung them on
the wall tie-downs and supported the leading edges and possible friction points
with the foam. Rolled the fuselage into the chocks and tied her down to the
screw eyes. I had made up some 8' ramps that really came in handy for loading
without a dock.
Driving and navigating the truck cross country gave me a great respect for the
men who do that for a living. It was a good reliable truck and all I had to do
was check my load periodically to make sure everything was riding as it should.
'Made it without a scratch.
The truck was "all weather", high reliability transportation. Flying over the Appalachians
at the whims of of old man weather for your first X-country sounds
risky to me.
Good Luck,
Duane the plane, Tallahassee FL
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| Subject: | Re: Hauling Kolbs over long distances |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| The truck was "all weather", high reliability transportation. Flying
over the Appalachians at the whims of of old man weather for your
first X-country sounds risky to me.
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| Good Luck,
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| Duane the plane, Tallahassee FL
Good Morning Kolbers:
Based on limited knowledge, flying is an inherently "risky" hobby.
I have had the good fortune to have flown over all the mountains east
of the Mississippi River in my old Firestar powered with point
ignition 447. Never had any problems that could not be encountered
any place else I might fly.
Most of the time in the Appalachians and the Smokies, as well as the
mountains of Pennsylvania, New York, and the New England States, there
are ample hay fields, open areas, and roads and highways, to land a
Firestar should the need arise.
I have done a few cross countries and find them to be a combination of
many short legs. I fly, normally, an hour or two at a time. By
flying short legs I get to meet more different people on the ground.
A major benefit of landing often is the chance to relax, recharge my
own personal "battery", and look forward to the next leg of my cross
country flight.
With today's GPS capability, a good sectional chart to follow along on
the route of flight, cross country flying is as simple and safe as
flying around the local airport. Fuel management is an important
chore, as well as keeping an eye on the local weather one is flying
through.
In Army rotary wing training, cross country work began soon after
solo. Armed with limited knowledge, a tiny TH-55 Hughes helicopter,
magnetic compass, and a sectional, all us fledgling aviators were soon
comfortable, both day and night, buzzing our way around Texas.
Sometimes the first step is the hardest, but we will never know what
we can accomplish if we don't take that first step.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Vic buys a B-1 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
I landed once on a field that had about a quarter-inch of the slickest ice
you can imagine. There was some tire traction but not much. I used engine
power and crabbed into the wind to taxi. It was hard to walk to the FBO when
I finally got it stopped.
Dave Paule
Boulder, CO
<< Does anyone on the list know what a B-1 Bomber cost? I think I owe the
Air Force for one. I managed to get the plane to the runway but when I
touched down I discovered the runway was icy. Ice in Hawaii? Send
donations to Vic. Thank goodness it was in a simulator. Vic >>
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Well, thank YOU, John. That's a go-gittin' little plane. For a little
different perspective, Larry Cottrell sent me a couple of pics that he and
Karen took while on the bus tour. They are so nice - even tho' not from the
air - that I added them to the Monument Valley 04 web page last night.
Thanks Larry.
Big Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <johnjung@compusenior.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <johnjung@compusenior.com>
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> Group,
>
> Here is what I have to add to what others have already written about the
Monument Valley experience. Meeting and putting faces on other list members
was similar to meeting at the Kolb tent at Oshkosh or Sun-N-Fun. Only we had
more time to get to know each other. I have always enjoyed talking to other
pilots, and Kolb owners seem to be a special group of pilots.
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| Subject: | Re: Intercom system |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Here's something I learned about intercoms and headsets. We had a
Sigtronics 400 intercom in our Citabria (1991 time frame). It worked well
but one thing we learned is some of the small differences between makes and
models and how headsets alone may impact their perceived performance.
Some intercoms VOX system turn on both mikes at the same time - when my
partner bought a Peltor Headset with dynamic mike it would pick up so much
background noise that you could hardly hear each other. When the head set
was swapped out with a model having a elect mike, the background noise
level dropped significantly and both occupants could hear each other well.
So if the intercom activates both headsets simultaneously your going to
contend with a higher noise level. Also the headset its self can
significantly impact the audio quality and background noise level. Since I
don't fly two place light planes/trainers I can't comment on which brands
perform the best in that environment.
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: original firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Dan, where are you located in mn. i plan to bring my kolb up north this
summer or fall to the cabin to do some flying. maybe we could get together
sometime and do some flying. i now live in excelsior, mn.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: original firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
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> Hi people, Due to weather I have 2.5 hrs. with 7 landings in with my new
to me Firestar. I love it! It fly's so much better than my old Pioneer
Flightstar. The climb is incredible, The glide is great. The 377 just sips
fuel. My old Kawi was wound up to 5800 rpm's at 45 mph. This will cruise at
50-55 at 4630 on the tach. My flying mentor took it up and said it was the
nicest little airplane that he had ever flown. If he wasn't in the middle of
a Kitfox project he'd get a Kolb tomorrow. I can't wait for the next flight.
That plane really gets me up over the trees in northern MN in a hurry. I'm
hooked on Kolb's.
> Dan Charter
> Firestar 1
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share |
Available!
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Available!
Mike,
Are you going to have a problem with the strobe getting knocked off where
you have it located on the bottom of the nose cone should you ever nose it
over?
jerb
At 10:49 AM 5/16/04 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares
><pictures@matronics.com>
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>A new Email List Photo Share is available:
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> Poster: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
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>
> Subject: Strobe Mount
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>
>http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@lycos.com.05.16.2004/index.html
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| Subject: | Trip Photos Update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
The just completed trip was awesome.
Enroute mileage: 1819 nm, 2093 sm.
Average enroute speed: 65.7 knots, 75.5 mph.
Total flight time; 34:21.
Fuel used: 162.2 gallons.
Highest airport landed at: Central Colorado Regional (7V1) at 7946 feet msl.
Kolbra rides given: 13.
Thanks to all that made this trip and the Monument Valley Gathering so
great.
Direct link to this trip:
http://home.comcast.net/~KolbraPilot3/Spring.htm
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Trip Photos Update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
That is some web page, John. Many thanks. I'll bet that doubles
participation next year, eh ??..............and thanks again, for the Kolbra
ride. Worked(ing) on Vamoose today, so's to be able to join you next year.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Trip Photos Update
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> The just completed trip was awesome.
>
> Enroute mileage: 1819 nm, 2093 sm.
> Average enroute speed: 65.7 knots, 75.5 mph.>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip Photos Update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
John,
What a great job on the MV page, the photos were awesome great job! "you the
man".
Bob Dalton
Manteca, CA
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Trip Photos Update
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> The just completed trip was awesome.
>
> Enroute mileage: 1819 nm, 2093 sm.
> Average enroute speed: 65.7 knots, 75.5 mph.
> Total flight time; 34:21.
> Fuel used: 162.2 gallons.
> Highest airport landed at: Central Colorado Regional (7V1) at 7946 feet
msl.
> Kolbra rides given: 13.
>
> Thanks to all that made this trip and the Monument Valley Gathering so
> great.
>
> Direct link to this trip:
> http://home.comcast.net/~KolbraPilot3/Spring.htm
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 597 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip Photos Update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
John W....I just finished looking at these pics...read every detail and
followed along in your journey...
I have no words that can explain what I am feeling...thanks pard...for the
time you spent making these pages to share with us.
I believe what I am gonna do now...is go get my wife....and go over these
pages again for her to see also!
Thanks again!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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