---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/31/04: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII (John Hauck) 2. 09:26 AM - miZer (Mike Pierzina) 3. 09:50 AM - Vacation (Larry Bourne) 4. 11:43 AM - Re: miZer (Jack & Louise Hart) 5. 04:00 PM - Re: miZer (jerb) 6. 05:57 PM - John Hauck Pictures (Bill Vincent) 7. 05:58 PM - Re: Vacation (DAquaNut@aol.com) 8. 06:50 PM - Re: Non-UL, Memorial Day (Edward Chmielewski) 9. 07:22 PM - Re: Non-UL, Memorial Day (Denny Rowe) 10. 07:34 PM - [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 11. 07:41 PM - Re: John Hauck Pictures (John Hauck) 12. 08:17 PM - Re: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Dave Carr) 13. 10:58 PM - does anyone have...? (artdog1512) 14. 11:49 PM - 582 for sale (Giovanni Day) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:24 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" prop | to get. I am not even sure of the GB ratio. If the cost is not to bad, I | would like to have the 912 checked over (teardown for new seals and | such), just in case. Giovanni/All: The 912 series engines uses a different regulator/rectifier. I tried using a 582 reg/rec on my 912, but it did not produce power like the specified 912 reg/rec did. Be sure you get it from the seller, or you will have to purchase a new one. They are expensive. 912 normally uses a 2.273 to 1 ratio gear box, unless it has the 912ULS option of 2.243 to 1. Unless there was a severe prop strike somewhere in the life of the 912, there should be no need to "tear down" the engine. The factory recommended TBO of the 912 is now 1,500 hours. The dry sump lubrication system of the 912 series engines demands that the engines be sealed tight, except for the vent on the top of the remote oil tank. Oil in the crankcase is returned to the oil tank by blow by pressure of 3 to 5 lbs, or it may be 5 to 7 lbs. A leaking valve cover gasket could reduce crankcase pressure and allow excess oil to remain in the crankcase. What was the reason for selling the 912? Maintenance is simple on this engine: 1-Oil change at 100 hours. 2-Oil filter change at 100 hours. 3-Spark plug change at 200 hours. 4-Air filter clean and oil at 100 hours. 5-Coolant change at 2 year interval. Recommended to use long life, no phosphate/no silicate antifreeze at 50/50 mix. I have switched over to Valvoline Semi-Synthetic Durablend 20W50 Oil for my 912ULS. Primary reason for switching from 100% Synthetic is using 100LL fuel on cross country flights. Full synthetic oil will not hold lead in suspension, allowing it to collect in the engine, eventually blocking oil galleries and causing excess internal wear in other areas. Semi-synthetic oil will suspend lead, as will organic oil. However, organic oil does not have the high temp capabilities of the sythetics. Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:14 AM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: miZer --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Does anybody use the "Fuel miZer" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:07 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: Vacation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" It's finally official. I'm leaving Palm Springs for 5 weeks, starting on Friday, June 18, and heading east and south. Route will lead me thru most of New Mexico on I-40, angle down thru West Texas to the Gulf, then up and across the southern states to Okefenokee, and south around Florida. No fixed itinerary........when I run out of time, it'll only be 3 or 4 days to get home from where-ever I happen to be. I'll be mosey-ing along (I mosey FAST) sniffing the roses en route, but do like to keep moving. I'd like to visit some of the Kolb-ers on the route, and re-visit some from last year. (if I'm still welcome :-)...) Couple 100 miles out of the way is do-able. Seems like there's a pretty large group near Ocala, (??) and I'll be going right thru there, heading for Tampa Bay and points south, probably to the Keys. If you have a flat spot to park, and an electric hook-up for my a/c, it'd sure help on campground expenses......especially with the price of diesel fuel escalating. Except for the a/c, the camper is self-contained. Flying will be fun, and I'd like to talk people into rides as I go, and also............if any of you like to fish, fresh or salt, let me know. I'll be towing my 15' tin boat again, got a camper full of tackle, and would love to try the local hot spots, especially for less common or targeted species, (gar ?? alligator gar ?? turtles ??) and really especially for large salt water fish. (Cobia ?? Redfish ?? Amberjack ?? Permit ?? Tarpon ??) Unless I have a request for dinner, all my fishing is catch and release - for photography only. Thanks guys Long Runnin' Lar. Vamoose is (was) finished, and I fired it up for a tuning run yesterday, before calling the inspector. Wanted to make 1st flight before the big trip. That S.O.B. reduction drive blew a seal - again - and, of course, the prop blew oil all over the plane, my boat, the driveway, neighbor's house, my house, storage shed...............aaaaaaarrrrggghhhh ! ! ! ! Bullshit. I'm walking away from the thing for a day or 5 - again. What's the best way to get all that oil offa things without scrubbing down the whole miserable mess with a toothbrush ?? Getting prepped for the trip now, and Vamoose will likely go in the trailer for the duration......after a bath. Man, I am soooooo.............#$% %#.........disappointed. Disgusted - again - Lar. Do not Archive. P.S. I owe several people replies on emails from last week. Please don't give up on me - it was one H - - - of a weekend, it's finally got hot for real, and I'm a little rattled. Kind of a relief to get back to work last night, tho' they ran me ragged. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:51 AM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: miZer --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart At 12:22 PM 5/31/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > >Does anybody use the "Fuel miZer" > Mike, I have been using one for several years on the FireFly. Primarily I use it to judge relative fuel consumption at different throttle settings and I have not worried much about accuracy. Some time I am going to take a flight, read the actual fuel used and then calibrate the unit. Currently, it is reading at about half the true fuel consumption. One reason I have not performed the calibration, is that one has to hold buttons depressed as one turns on the unit. And the way my electrical system is set up, power is only available when the engine is running. To calibrate, I need to make an auxiliary power pack for the gauge. Then I can reset the calibration, and it should indicate much closer to (within 2%) the true gph. The Mizer will not accurately measure below .5 gph. There is another fuel flow meter (Elba) out there that you might want to consider. It is offered by SkySports, Lockwood and probably others too: http://www.airstuff.com http://www.lockwood-aviation.com/miscfuel.htm The sensor unit has a window in it so one can see what is going on. Also, I believe the sample time is a little longer that the Mizer so that one will not see large fuel flow fluctuations. They claim to be able to read down to .1 gph. Where the Mizer is said to use 70 ma maximum the Elba tops out at 120 ma. Both seem to have many of the same features. If I had it to do over again, I believe I would purchase the Elba. I hope this has not been too confusing. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:40 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: miZer --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Haven't used that particular item, but i do use the fuel flow option on the EIS. Quite pleased with it. jerb At 12:22 PM 5/31/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > >Does anybody use the "Fuel miZer" > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:45 PM PST US From: Bill Vincent Subject: Kolb-List: John Hauck Pictures --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Vincent Hi John and Gang: John I just looked at your beautiful / great pictures you took while flying over the Rocky's. I was wondering when you flew 13,300 feet high to clear one of the passes did you have to use oxygen? Bill Vincent Firestar II Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:08 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vacation --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 5/31/04 10:50:30 AM Central Standard Time, biglar@gogittum.com writes: << salt, let me know. I'll be towing my 15' tin boat again, got a camper full of tackle, and would love to try the local hot spots, especially for less common or targeted species, (gar ?? alligator gar ?? turtles ??) and really especially for large salt water fish. (Cobia ?? Redfish ?? Amberjack ?? Permit ?? Tarpon ??) Unless I have a request for dinner, all my fishing is catch and release - for photography only. Thanks guys Long Runnin' Lar. >> Lar, You are welcome to hook up In front of my place. If the weather cooperates we can take a trip offshore. If that doesnt work we can take a trip to the jetties or the pass to try and get a red. Of course you will want to see my Firefly so we can keep this Kolb related. We just got back from Fla. as we go there each year. Got some fishing info. for you. Probably would be best to reply off list. Ed (in Houston) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:49 PM PST US From: "Edward Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Non-UL, Memorial Day --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" Very nice, Bob. Thank You! Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob N." Subject: Kolb-List: Non-UL, Memorial Day > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." > > > Non-UL stuff follows. Delete if desired. Since today is Memorial Day, > and no one has mentioned it (of course, old man, it's not flying), I > will. Shoot me down, I've been in two Unpleasantnesses, and still > kickin' at 81. > > In Days of Yore ... > When Memorial Day Was Truly 'Decoration Day' > By ROBERT 0. NOYER > Now comes another federally mandated holiday, dedicated to the merchants > of America. (Snip) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:38 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Non-UL, Memorial Day --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > Very nice, Bob. Thank You! > > Ed in JXN > MkII/503 > > Do not archive. Ditto! Denny Rowe ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:20 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Matt Dralle Subject: WWII Bombers at Livermore California - May 31 2004 http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/dralle@matronics.com.05.31.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:13 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck Pictures --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | I was wondering when you flew 13,300 feet high to clear one of the | passes did you have to use oxygen? | Bill Vincent Hi Bill/Gang: No oxygen. I figured John W would pass out before me. He was at 14,500. If the Kolbra went out of control, that would be my signal to descend. :-) I think the reg says something like 30 minutes above 12,500 msl without oxygen. Correct me if I am wrong. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:03 PM PST US From: "Dave Carr" "Email List Photo Shares" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Carr" Great pictures Matt. Thanks for sharing them with us. DEC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Email List Photo Shares" Subject: Kolb-List: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares > > > A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > Poster: Matt Dralle > RV-List,Zenith-List,Kitfox-List,Yak-List,Kolb-List,Warbird-List,Rocket-List, Pietenpol-List,Europa-List,Tailwind-List,Commander-List,AeroElectric-List > > Subject: WWII Bombers at Livermore California - May 31 2004 > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/dralle@matronics.com.05.31.2004/index.html > > > o Main Photo Share Index > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > o Submitting a Photo Share > > If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the > following information along with your email message and files: > > 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: > 2) Your Full Name: > 3) Your Email Address: > 4) One line Subject description: > 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: > 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: > > Email the information above and your files and photos to: > > pictures@matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:58:39 PM PST US From: artdog1512 Subject: Kolb-List: does anyone have...? --> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 does anyone have the phone number for Kolb?... or does anyone have a pair of landing gear legs for a FireFly that they want to get rid of? .... tim __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:30 PM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: Kolb-List: 582 for sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Hello all, I have decided to go with the used 912 over the new 582. I got a good deal on the 912 and will be passing some of the savings on to sell the 582 fast. Here is what I have New 582 DCDI Blue head oil injection. I mean new and never started. It has an E-Box 3.471 ratio, exhaust, rotax oil tank, twin rads (slightly used/like new), intake silencer, powder coated side exhaust mount, new exhaust and tall engine mount for the MKIII from Kolb. Also comes with new CHT and EGT senders. I have over $7000.00 invested. WOW I did not realize this until adding it all up just now. I will take $5990 complete. Price firm. The motor with box alone will cost more than this. I will also consider parting it out. Let me know what you need and what you offer. I may do some trading. I need an EIS for the 912 and maybe some sending units. I may also need a rad. I also need a power fin or warp prop. Thanks for your help in making this a smooth transition. Giovanni Day MKIII 912 and wings still need covering. Do Not Archive