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1. 12:03 AM - Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII (Giovanni Day)
2. 12:06 AM - Re: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Larry Bourne)
3. 05:53 AM - Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII (John Hauck)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: does anyone have...? (Don Gherardini)
5. 08:38 AM - Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII (Giovanni Day)
6. 06:41 PM - Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII (Bob Bean)
7. 10:11 PM - Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII (Giovanni Day)
8. 11:50 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
John,
I got this engine for a very good price, however there are no logs. I
was told it has 190 hours on it, but you never know. As for a prop
strike or what ever, you never know. I also know these GBs have a system
to reduce the possibility of damage due to a prop strike but who knows
if it helps. For the price I paid I figure $300 or so for an inspection
is money well spent. What instruments do you run? Quad egts, chts
water/oil temp etc? What prop size mfg. are you running? Thanks for the
info as I am uneducated on these things.
Giovanni
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII
Giovanni/All:
The 912 series engines uses a different regulator/rectifier. I tried
using a 582 reg/rec on my 912, but it did not produce power like the
specified 912 reg/rec did. Be sure you get it from the seller, or you
will have to purchase a new one. They are expensive.
912 normally uses a 2.273 to 1 ratio gear box, unless it has the 912ULS
option of 2.243 to 1.
Unless there was a severe prop strike somewhere in the life of the 912,
there should be no need to "tear down" the engine. The factory
recommended TBO of the 912 is now 1,500 hours. The dry sump lubrication
system of the 912 series engines demands that the engines be sealed
tight, except for the vent on the top of the remote oil tank. Oil in
the crankcase is returned to the oil tank by blow by pressure of 3 to 5
lbs, or it may be 5 to 7 lbs. A leaking valve cover gasket could reduce
crankcase pressure and allow excess oil to remain in the crankcase.
What was the reason for selling the 912?
Maintenance is simple on this engine:
1-Oil change at 100 hours.
2-Oil filter change at 100 hours.
3-Spark plug change at 200 hours.
4-Air filter clean and oil at 100 hours.
5-Coolant change at 2 year interval. Recommended to use long life, no
phosphate/no silicate antifreeze at 50/50 mix.
I have switched over to Valvoline Semi-Synthetic Durablend 20W50 Oil for
my 912ULS. Primary reason for switching from 100% Synthetic is using
100LL fuel on cross country flights. Full synthetic oil will not hold
lead in suspension, allowing it to collect in the engine, eventually
blocking oil galleries and causing excess internal wear in other areas.
Semi-synthetic oil will suspend lead, as will organic oil. However,
organic oil does not have the high temp capabilities of the sythetics.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Matt, those are great. Thanks ! ! ! Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I got this engine for a very good price, however there are no logs.
I
| was told it has 190 hours on it, but you never know. As for a prop
| strike or what ever, you never know. I also know these GBs have a
system
| to reduce the possibility of damage due to a prop strike but who
knows
| if it helps. For the price I paid I figure $300 or so for an
inspection
| is money well spent. What instruments do you run? Quad egts, chts
| water/oil temp etc? What prop size mfg. are you running? Thanks for
the
| info as I am uneducated on these things.
|
| Giovanni
Giovanni/All:
Wonder how you keep time on an aircraft engine without keeping a log
book?
A 912 with 190 hours on it should show little wear on the brass tangs
on the carb floats.
The gearbox has a torsional vibration dampner. I don't know if it is
there to prevent engine damage in case of a prop strike.
I use oil press, oil temp, cyl head temp, tach, volt meter.
The CHT measures cyl head metal temp. There is no requirement to
monitor coolant temp.
I do not use an EGT, single or quad.
72" three blade, tapered, Warp Drive with nickle steel edges.
Good luck with your new engine.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: does anyone have...? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
ADog...Kolbs phone number is:
606-862-9692
and,,they are there..just talked to Travis this morn.
Don Gherardini
OEM.Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
I had a powerfin prop on order for the 582 and they are to start
production on it tomorrow. They can easily switch to make a 70" f model
for the 912 if I want. Any one using a powerfin on this setup? Thanks
again to everyone for all the support. This is one reason I like the
Kolbs.
Giovanni
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII
Giovanni/All:
Wonder how you keep time on an aircraft engine without keeping a log
book?
A 912 with 190 hours on it should show little wear on the brass tangs on
the carb floats.
The gearbox has a torsional vibration dampner. I don't know if it is
there to prevent engine damage in case of a prop strike.
I use oil press, oil temp, cyl head temp, tach, volt meter.
The CHT measures cyl head metal temp. There is no requirement to
monitor coolant temp.
I do not use an EGT, single or quad.
72" three blade, tapered, Warp Drive with nickle steel edges.
Good luck with your new engine.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Check your rotation...CW?CCW????? -BB do not archive
Giovanni Day wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
>
>I had a powerfin prop on order for the 582 and they are to start
>production on it tomorrow. They can easily switch to make a 70" f model
>for the 912 if I want. Any one using a powerfin on this setup? Thanks
>again to everyone for all the support. This is one reason I like the
>Kolbs.
>
>Giovanni
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII
>
>
>Giovanni/All:
>
>Wonder how you keep time on an aircraft engine without keeping a log
>book?
>
>A 912 with 190 hours on it should show little wear on the brass tangs on
>the carb floats.
>
>The gearbox has a torsional vibration dampner. I don't know if it is
>there to prevent engine damage in case of a prop strike.
>
>I use oil press, oil temp, cyl head temp, tach, volt meter.
>
>The CHT measures cyl head metal temp. There is no requirement to
>monitor coolant temp.
>
>I do not use an EGT, single or quad.
>
>72" three blade, tapered, Warp Drive with nickle steel edges.
>
>Good luck with your new engine.
>
>john h
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Bob,
Good point. I decided on the powerfin and have one specifically for the
912 that should be here Friday. Just so happens they had one in stock.
Thanks Again.
Giovanni Day
MKIII 912 and wings still need covering.
PS anyone in the west KY area want to help me cover these wings???? ;)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Bean
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Check your rotation...CW?CCW????? -BB do not archive
Giovanni Day wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
>
>I had a powerfin prop on order for the 582 and they are to start
>production on it tomorrow. They can easily switch to make a 70" f model
>for the 912 if I want. Any one using a powerfin on this setup? Thanks
>again to everyone for all the support. This is one reason I like the
>Kolbs.
>
>Giovanni
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 80 hp vs. 582 MKIII
>
>
>Giovanni/All:
>
>Wonder how you keep time on an aircraft engine without keeping a log
>book?
>
>A 912 with 190 hours on it should show little wear on the brass tangs
>on the carb floats.
>
>The gearbox has a torsional vibration dampner. I don't know if it is
>there to prevent engine damage in case of a prop strike.
>
>I use oil press, oil temp, cyl head temp, tach, volt meter.
>
>The CHT measures cyl head metal temp. There is no requirement to
>monitor coolant temp.
>
>I do not use an EGT, single or quad.
>
>72" three blade, tapered, Warp Drive with nickle steel edges.
>
>Good luck with your new engine.
>
>john h
>
>
>
>
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DNA: do not archive
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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