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1. 03:06 AM - firestar (Ted Cowan)
2. 03:20 AM - NE Fly-in (Airgriff2@aol.com)
3. 06:37 AM - new web site (Bob Bean)
4. 06:55 AM - update (Paul Petty)
5. 07:20 AM - website (Paul Petty)
6. 07:32 AM - Re: Hello? Is this thing on...? (Richard Swiderski)
7. 09:22 AM - Re: NE Fly-in (Richard Pike)
8. 01:31 PM - Re: new web site (John Willamson)
9. 01:33 PM - Re: NE Fly-in (John Willamson)
10. 04:49 PM - website (Paul Petty)
11. 05:52 PM - Re: website aka collision avoidance box (Bob N.)
12. 06:24 PM - Re: website (George Bass)
13. 08:21 PM - Re: Tank Pick-up (DAquaNut@aol.com)
14. 08:29 PM - Re: Tank Pick-up (Bob N.)
15. 09:12 PM - Re: Tank Pick-up (Jack & Louise Hart)
16. 09:30 PM - Re: SureCheck (George Bass)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
Just wanted to remind everyone out there that I still have my Original
Firestar, circa 1986, for sale. Details can be had at
http://www.homestead.com/southernflyers . Go to 'for sale' and then link to
'intro'. She's a beautiful ship. Going to make some lucky person a great
flyer. Won a lot of trophies for bomb drops and spot landings and the like
with it. One of Kolbs best flyers out there. Drop me a line if you are
interested. Gotta sell to pay for my new red play pretty SlingShot.
Delivery is possible. Ted Cowan, Alabama. Make me an offer and you might
be the next happy owner.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Hi Guys, Looks like 4 or 5 planes heading south to Wellsville, PA from the
Albany NY area on Fri morning , the 18th. for the fly-in. Our fuel stops
will be: Freehold, NY, Resnick, Stroudsburg, Slatington. Smoketown, and
Shrieveport North. Looks like around 220 miles, 4 hrs of air time, plus stops.
I guess we will see how these little 2 strokes tolerate drinking 100 LL ?
I think Terry has kind of put things together for us. Anymore word on weather
gas is availiable at the fly-in ? Do we need an updated list of how is
coming or we will just get together once there? Who ever is going, have a safe
trip to & from. I put an order in for sun and fair winds !!!
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Looks like TNK's new site is having teething problems....
looks purty but doesn't work with the netscape browser.
-BB, do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
John C/gang
Sure, I will fill you in on Ms. Dixie. As of 06/02/2004 I have completed the following.
Tail section,Wings and ailerons. I have received Kit #2 and in the process
of building a jig that will allow me to rotate the fuselage 360 degrees.
I should finish it tonight and start the tube seal process and have it sanded,treated
and primed by this weekend. Then the fun begins with the major battle
of fitting the fuselage tube into the fuselage itself !
Still having a ball with the building and can't wait to fly her someday soon.
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Wow! New look all together! I wonder if that is going to be a new logo for Kolb
aircraft?
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
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| Subject: | Hello? Is this thing on...? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@rocketjet.net>
Bob,
I couldn't find a total advance figure anywhere for the G-10. The
shop manual does not even address it. I've read where others have mostly
set theirs to 28 deg & a few are going 32 deg.
Richard Swiderski
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Bean
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hello? Is this thing on...?
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Maybe we've exhausted all points of controversy?
Here's a question for 4 stroke drivers, especially 912 and 912s.
What is your ignition advance at or about cruise rpm? -Or
static full throttle? I'm primarily interested in redrive setups
that run over 4-5000 rpm. thanx, BB, do not archive
Matt Dralle wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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>Hey Kolbers,
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>There was only one post today... Is everything okay or is everyone just
>out building or flying??
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>Matt Dralle
>List Admin.
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>Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
>925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
>http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
A couple months ago I said I would be there, but looks like I am going to
have to miss it. Dad's health not doing too good, priorities change. Have
fun guys.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 06:19 AM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
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>Hi Guys, Looks like 4 or 5 planes heading south to Wellsville, PA from the
>Albany NY area on Fri morning , the 18th. for the fly-in. Our fuel stops
>will be: Freehold, NY, Resnick, Stroudsburg, Slatington. Smoketown, and
>Shrieveport North. Looks like around 220 miles, 4 hrs of air time, plus
>stops.
> I guess we will see how these little 2 strokes tolerate drinking 100 LL ?
>I think Terry has kind of put things together for us. Anymore word on
>weather
>gas is availiable at the fly-in ? Do we need an updated list of how is
>coming or we will just get together once there? Who ever is going, have
>a safe
>trip to & from. I put an order in for sun and fair winds !!!
>
>Fly Safe
>Bob Griffin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
The Kolb website has always been a topic for me to talk to Linda (at TNK)
about.
If you like the new website, please email TNK and tell them.
If you don't like it or have problems with the website, please email TNK.
I look at the website as a place of first contact with TNK and a place to
get the latest information on what's happening in the World of Kolb. (They
have let me down here lately)
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 598 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Hi Bob G and all going to the NE Fly-in,
You guys owe us some photos that you take at the Fly-In.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 598 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
I have to agree with John W. Kolb is going through some changes as all companies
do I guess, however the folks at TNK,Linda,Travis,Dennis and gang are still
great. I like the old website because the new one seams to be using pop up's to
view sections of the site. IMHO they need to hire a 16 year old computer wiz
to design the site and update it daily.And this person could man the online question
chat section that no one is manning.Heck they could probably get a guy
or gal for minimum wage to do it! Sure save us a bunch of long distance phone
calls.
Web sites are a pain in the bottom and require a lot of time, however it seams
that more and more these days we use this machine to get information and sources
to buy the things we want. I feel that everyone will agree that we love our
pick of aircraft and want to help TNK out as much as we can. Weather it be VIA
the WWW or telling friends about the good qualities of Kolb aircraft.
Heck, the new web site does not even have a link to this list that I have found,
and this list is what sold me on the airplane in the first place.
Another thing is TNK pricing they advertise. Ain't no way in hell a fella can build
a Kolbra with a 912UL for 24.5. The covering they say will set ya back $995.00.
I just bought my covering AND paint mind you and it was $1800.00 and some
change.
John is right we need to provide feed back to TNK. Travis.... I hope your taking
notes by the way.....and where the hell is the rest of my parts? I'm going to
need them soon ya know...
Ms Dixie is taking shape and I hope to be in the covering process soon. I'm still
a happy camper with the kit and look forward hooking up with you fellow Kolbers
soon.
Anyone know why Mark German did not make MV? He sounded so excited last time I
talked to him.
On another note and it is Kolb related, is there any one out there using a collision avoidance system? I found this site for one and may use it because we fly out of a strip that is located on a MTR. http://www.ipilot.com/shop/surecheck.aspx If any of you can look into this and tell me if this system will detect non transponder equipped aircraft or if it is frequency select only like the big birds on 1200 or so I will be interested.
Hopes this post up's your traffic Matt! Keep up the good work.
Headed to the hanger to burn some metal!!!
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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| Subject: | Re: website aka collision avoidance box |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Somehow this box seems to say it will do too much, especially for the
price. Although I have a smattering of smartz on IFF and the civil
beacon system, it looks as though this box needs to listen to another
plane's tpdr--and then to get only a rough approx. of range. Of course
present day micro electronics is a far cry from my 1949-50 design
experience on beacons, this box is either truly marvelous, or not quite.
There is no indication that this box emits a signal in the ATC beacon
region, and therefor doesn't have any idea how far another
transponder-equipped plane is. Possibly it approximates range by a rough
estimate of received signal strength---which in turns depends upon
transmitted sig strength, relative positions of the two a/c and their
antennas, and whether the tpdr-equipped plane is actually replying to a
ground interrogation---and several other factors.
Caveat sucker
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.rpg/ronoy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
Paul (
You asked about the "SureCheck" products, so, I thought I'd
send you my impression of the product that I have, & the
response of a fellow flyer that has an even newer one.
Mine is the older version, larger than the latest ones by about
3x. I really do like having it in the cockpit, but, I've never
used it when flying an open cockpit plane. I have used it in
a Rans S6, in a Cessna 150, a SkyRaider w/a Rotax 503 and
in a Cessna 172. It has always performed well, alerting me
of aircraft in within my vicinity. It does have a switch for
LOCAL (close proximity / pattern distances) & DISTANCE
(en route type).
The unit comes with all necessary wiring & adapter to add
it to your existing headset jack, without the need to be some
sort of electronic wiz. The audio is very understandable, &
the volume controls is very effective.
The newer unit that my friend has, as I mentioned above, is
VERY small comparatively. The actual size is about like a
pack of cigarettes, & it can be hard wired into a panel with
very little trouble, should you decide to do so. This unit is
also capable of showing you the altitude of the aircraft in
your proximity, too. (Very good information.)
My only problem with sending this information to you, is this,
these units only read the other aircrafts' transponder, so if you
are looking for something that acts more like RADAR, then it
is not going to satisfy your needs. These units read the same
information that the ATC reads, & it displays it for your info
& safety in a small, unobtrusive, 'box' that you don't ever have
to even look at (if wired into the system) UNLESS it tells you
that you may have TRAFFIC.
don't know if you can tell from my input, but, I like my unit, &
only wish I had been able to get the newer version instead. I
definitely would buy another, & I recommend them to all.
I really helps to have that extra pair or antenna in the plane,
to help watch for others. Hope this helps you decide.
George
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| Subject: | Re: Tank Pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Gang,
I have a question. When in level flight ,does the gas tank in a
firefly lean forward. If so it seems the fuel would be the deepest at the front
of the 5 gal can. Or does the forward motion push the fuel to the back of the
tank. The prints show the pick up towards the tail. I just want to place it
where it will have the most usable fuel.
Ed (Hou)
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| Subject: | Re: Tank Pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Once at a steady velocity, the fuel level will stay level. Only
acceleration will cause either a backward/forward slosh.
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Re: Tank Pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 11:20 PM 6/3/04 EDT, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
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> Gang,
>
> I have a question. When in level flight ,does the gas tank in a
>firefly lean forward. If so it seems the fuel would be the deepest at the front
>of the 5 gal can. Or does the forward motion push the fuel to the back of the
>tank. The prints show the pick up towards the tail. I just want to place it
>where it will have the most usable fuel.
>
> Ed (Hou)
>
> Do not archive
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Ed,
I checked the set up on my FireFly. See bottom of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly.html
Since the tank tray rests on top of the tail boom tube, the tank in my
FireFly will be vertical with a wing angle of attack of 9.5 degrees. Any
thing less than this, the tank will lean toward the front. To use as much
fuel as possible there are several options. As you have suggested, you
could move the pickup toward the front. But if you do this, you may run out
of fuel during a landing approach (slow flight => higher angle of attack,
fuel moves to the back of the tank and away from front mounted pickup). It
might be better to leave the fuel pickup where it is and when one is getting
low on fuel to slow up and maintain a higher angle of
attack.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
Also regarding the Traffic Proximity Warning System:
The unit DOES give an approximation of the distance to,
or from, an aircraft in your vicinity, & in the newer one,
it shows that plane's altitude & keeps you informed as
to the distance until it is out of the immediate threat
range selected by the operator.
George
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