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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension (Bob Bean)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension (Jim Baker)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel Rims (Olenik Aviation)
4. 06:58 AM - Re: tach and radio (Airgriff2@aol.com)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic (Jack & Louise Hart)
6. 07:20 AM - Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke (Bruce Harrison)
7. 08:07 AM - Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke (HShack@aol.com)
8. 08:31 AM - Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic (Richard Pike)
9. 08:43 AM - Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel Rims (N27SB@aol.com)
10. 09:41 AM - Re: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension (Edward Chmielewski)
11. 09:43 AM - Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel Rims (Mhqqqqq@aol.com)
12. 11:19 AM - Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke (Bruce Harrison)
13. 03:20 PM - Radio and Voltage Regulator Problem (Clive Hatcher)
14. 03:57 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 06/05/04 (Skywaylodge@aol.com)
15. 04:34 PM - Kolb near Fairview Michigan (Fackler, Ken)
16. 05:20 PM - Shop Hoist for Wt/Bal (H MITCHELL)
17. 05:24 PM - Re: Radio and Voltage Regulator Problem (Kirk Smith)
18. 06:41 PM - Aircraft, Hobby magazines, and books,as well as model airplanes (GeoR38@aol.com)
19. 08:16 PM - Re: Aircraft, Hobby magazines, and books,as well as (Richard Pike)
20. 08:30 PM - Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke (HShack@aol.com)
21. 08:42 PM - Firestar II Fuselage Cage (HShack@aol.com)
22. 08:46 PM - Re: Firestar II Fuselage Cage (Don Gherardini)
23. 08:52 PM - Broken Gear leg sockets on Firestar II (HShack@aol.com)
24. 08:52 PM - Re: Aircraft, Hobby magazines, and books,as well as model airplanes (Don Gherardini)
25. 09:04 PM - Re: Broken Gear leg sockets on Firestar II (John Hauck)
26. 11:17 PM - Re: Broken Gear leg sockets on Firestar II (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
A 65" powerfin, it's considerably lighter than the 70" warpdrive I had
on it.
That wasn't the primary reason for switching out though, it appeared to be
too much prop for my engine and I couldn't bring myself to getting out the
hacksaw for an adjustment....so I cleaned it up and stuck it in a box.
I'll report on the powerfin's performance after I bolt it on.
They have a very low moment of inertia and should be a little easier on
my engine. -BB, do not archive
Giovanni Day wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
>
>Bob,
>
>What "lighter prop" did you go to?
>
>Do not Archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Bean
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension
>
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
>Time for you to head on down to that "all you can eat, American Buffet".
>:)
>
>As I weigh 160 lbs no matter how much beer I drink, I stuck 30 lbs of
>lead in the nose of my MkIII for last year's first flight. Seeing that
>it
>behaved
>fine in attitude I took 15 lbs back out and changed to a lighter prop.
>Now I'll be doing another W&B to see if it still looks reasonable. I
>was overly concerned because many years ago I lost a good sized control
>line airplane on the first flight due to extreme aft cg. -Hard to forget
>that image. -BB
>
>H MITCHELL wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>>
>>I finally wrestled my shop hoist into the back of my truck and got it
>>to the hangar this AM. I attached the hook to a strap placed around the
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>root tube just short of the aft balance limit. L
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
> Reminds me of the old saw: "An airplane with a forward CG will
fly
> poorly, whereas one with an aft CG will fly but once." Been there
> too with RC stuff, esp. flying wings.
Not true unless the CG is out of limits. Within the CG envelope, an
aft CG is preferable to forward since the flying efficiency is related to
downwash required on the tail surfaces which is less when aft than
forward. CG, center of pressure, and tail downwash are all players
and each design is different (duh!).
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 SV, 492TC
Elmore City, OK
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| Subject: | Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel Rims |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
Two sources of flat tires that I have seen with the plastic wheels. One is
that the company supplying them has a typo in thier inner tube
recommendations charts that recommends a tube that is too small for the
tires used on those wheels commonly. The other is over-inflation. The
maximum inflation should be 20 PSI. Any more than that and the wheel will
deform and sometimes pinch the tube in the center.
Tom Olenik
Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines
Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes
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Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS
Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell......
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jack & Louise
Hart
Subject: Kolb-List: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel
Rims
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
FireFlyers and Kolbers,
Flat tires on the FireFly have been a source of frustration. But if one is
going to live within the AC 103-7 limits, it is something one has to put up
with. I believe this is my third flat tire, and I tried something
different. Its a fixture that made getting tire off the wheel very easy.
Since I will have more flat tires, this fixture is going to be one of my
favorite hangar tool possessions.
Fixture cost is minimal in time and money, and the pucker factor is greatly
reduced. It can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly107.html
Back in the air soon.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: tach and radio |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Dan writes
>
> >> The radio powered
>> up fine but when I would key the mic. the tach that always read 2000
>> rpm's no
>> matter what the throttle was set at started reading properly.
>
I don't have an answer for you but I have ignored the tack connected to the
gray wire on my 618 and use a "tini tach". Regular tach reads way high for some
reason? Electrical interference is common. I have a red light on my panel for
"low fuel" and starting aroung 1/4 tank or less, the light comes on when I
use the PTT button. When I asked Sky Sports about it they kind of chuckeled and
said (jokingly) just think of it as an added feature of the fuel monitoring
system to let you know you are transmitting OK.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic |
Wheel Rims
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Wheel Rims
At 08:12 AM 6/7/04 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
>
>Two sources of flat tires that I have seen with the plastic wheels. One is
>that the company supplying them has a typo in thier inner tube
>recommendations charts that recommends a tube that is too small for the
>tires used on those wheels commonly. The other is over-inflation. The
>maximum inflation should be 20 PSI. Any more than that and the wheel will
>deform and sometimes pinch the tube in the center.
>
>Tom Olenik
>Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
Tom,
You are dead on about the over inflation. When I got the tire off and
inflated the tube to find the leak, I found the leak was on the inside of
the tube in the bottom of a crack that extended around the inner
circumference of the tube right were the crack between the wheel halves
would be. About a month ago, I noticed the tires seemed to be getting a
little low. I had no tire gauge so using a bicycle pump I pumped them up
until they were firm. I believe I over did it.
I am on the way to buy a new tube. May be I should buy two. I may lay a
boot over the crack like that used to cover bicycle wheel spoke nuts.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Get back to me off list if you need a recommendation on an excellent welder
who has done work for me on Kolb cages. You can come see some of his
handiwork if you want to.
Glad the failure happened on the ground.
>From: HShack@aol.com
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:56:52 EDT
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
>About 1 1/2 - 2 years ago, I must have had one or two hard landings [didn't
>notice any extra bouncing] because I noticed the left wing was a little
>low. I
>figured the gear leg was a little bent & just flew it like that. A few
>days
>ago, I tried straightening the gear leg with a press & saw that it was the
>gear socket that was bent, not the leg.
>
>I determined that I would have to fix that some day; maybe wait until
>winter.
>
>Today, after my pre-flight I fired her up and started to taxi. Within 10
>feet, I heard a little "pop" & then the left side of my plane went down.
>
>Looks like my Firestar II has the "John Hauck Syndrome", ie. a broken gear
>leg socket. I also have a bent rib [# 7].
>
>The scary thing is that it doesn't look like the wing lift strut is now
>very
>firmly attached. And why didn't it break on my last landing instead of
>after
>taxiing only 10 feet? If this had happened at 50 mph, I probably wouldn't
>have much left to repair.
>
>As it is, tomorrow I will start to remove everything from the cage &
>determine a course of action. A friend at the airfield has offered to
>rebuild the
>cage & will probably go that route. I'm thinking I will go with heavier
>wall
>gear leg sockets, or maybe double wall. I will make longer gear legs so
>they
>will go all the way into the socket; not halfway,like the originals. This
>will
>give me a chance to re-wire all the electronics & pretty everything up.
>Replace the wing rib. Re-cover. New paint job. Take pictures, make a
>builder's
>log; now I'm a 51 percenter................
>
>Or, I could buy a new cage....
>
>Howard Shackleford
>FS II
>SC
>
>
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 6/7/2004 10:20:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
firestarii@hotmail.com writes:
Get back to me off list if you need a recommendation on an excellent welder
who has done work for me on Kolb cages.
I have a great welder, equipped with magnaflux , etc.; what worries me is
that both gear leg sockets are bent [with one broken], so getting the geometry
back to original is my main concern.
When I get the cage stripped of wings, etc., I may get you to come look at it.
By the way, we hope you will come to our Trenton Flyers fly-in on 6-19.
Check out our website at www.trentonflyers.com.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic |
Wheel Rims
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Wheel Rims
Years ago I worked in a motorcycle shop and when we did not have a suitable
size rubber boot to lay over the tops of the spoke nipples, we just made
two or three wraps of the wheel with black electrical tape over them. Maybe
do the same thing with that plastic wheel? Another use for book binding tape?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 08:58 AM 6/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Wheel
>Rims
>
>At 08:12 AM 6/7/04 -0400, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation"
> <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
> >
> >Two sources of flat tires that I have seen with the plastic wheels. One is
> >that the company supplying them has a typo in thier inner tube
> >recommendations charts that recommends a tube that is too small for the
> >tires used on those wheels commonly. The other is over-inflation. The
> >maximum inflation should be 20 PSI. Any more than that and the wheel will
> >deform and sometimes pinch the tube in the center.
> >
> >Tom Olenik
> >Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
>
>Tom,
>
>You are dead on about the over inflation. When I got the tire off and
>inflated the tube to find the leak, I found the leak was on the inside of
>the tube in the bottom of a crack that extended around the inner
>circumference of the tube right were the crack between the wheel halves
>would be. About a month ago, I noticed the tires seemed to be getting a
>little low. I had no tire gauge so using a bicycle pump I pumped them up
>until they were firm. I believe I over did it.
>
>I am on the way to buy a new tube. May be I should buy two. I may lay a
>boot over the crack like that used to cover bicycle wheel spoke nuts.
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Jackson, MO
>
>
>Jack & Louise Hart
>jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel Rims |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Subj: Flat tires on the FireFly have been a source of frustration.
Is it possible that you may be pinching the tube with the wheel halfs? I
flew a Long-ez for ten years and touching down at 90kts on the little Lamb tires
meant 3-4 tire changes a year. We found that tube pinch at installation was
common. Just the right amount of tube inflation and Talc during installation
solved the problem.
Steve B
Building MKIII Classic on amphib Floats
Longwood, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Jim/Kolbers,
Of course, I was referring to 'out-of-limits' condition. Most folks here
have heard the adage, just threw it in
for what it's worth. On the 'tail downwash' term, I haven't run across that in
over 3K hrs. of dual given. Downforce
produced by the tail may be more accurate? ;
) As for 'duh', no offense taken.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3/912, Weight and Balance By Suspension
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
>
> > Reminds me of the old saw: "An airplane with a forward CG will
> fly
> > poorly, whereas one with an aft CG will fly but once." Been there
> > too with RC stuff, esp. flying wings.
>
> Not true unless the CG is out of limits. Within the CG envelope, an
> aft CG is preferable to forward since the flying efficiency is related to
> downwash required on the tail surfaces which is less when aft than
> forward. CG, center of pressure, and tail downwash are all players
> and each design is different (duh!).
>
>
> Jim Baker
> 580.788.2779
> '71 SV, 492TC
> Elmore City, OK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Breaking Tire Bead Loose From Small Plastic Wheel Rims |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
I did not read all the tire responses, but if no one said this yet, when I
had this problem I used duct tape on the inside of the tube (middle where the
donut
hole is) I put the tape right on the tube and that stopped my tube from being
pinched by the split rim.
mark
twinstar
s.e. mn.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Sounds good. I'll probably be coming by land rather than by air since my
FSII is about 90% finished. I am currently finishing the paint job, then
have to assemble everything.
Sounds like you may need to replace the gear sockets to regain full
strength. That is a highly-stressed area.
>From: HShack@aol.com
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke
>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:06:08 EDT
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 6/7/2004 10:20:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>firestarii@hotmail.com writes:
>Get back to me off list if you need a recommendation on an excellent welder
>who has done work for me on Kolb cages.
>I have a great welder, equipped with magnaflux , etc.; what worries me is
>that both gear leg sockets are bent [with one broken], so getting the
>geometry
>back to original is my main concern.
>
>When I get the cage stripped of wings, etc., I may get you to come look at
>it.
>
>By the way, we hope you will come to our Trenton Flyers fly-in on 6-19.
>Check out our website at www.trentonflyers.com.
>
>Howard Shackleford
>FS II
>SC
>
>
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| Subject: | Radio and Voltage Regulator Problem |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clive Hatcher" <clive_hatcher@connectfree.co.uk>
Hi Kolbers,
I am still here lurking and enjoying the information you guys post on the
list. Perhaps someone can help me with a couple of problems I have just
come up against.
I have a STS AV7600 VOR radio and I believe STS have gone out of business.
Can anyone tell me the type of plug is used to plug in the remote headset
and PTT switch and if possible where I can get one?
Second problem: I am using the Rotax 264 870 - 12 volt regulator on a 582
engine this normally controls well to 13.8 V but will sometimes (maybe once
on a 1.5 hour trip) go up to 16 volts for about 3 minutes then returns to a
stable 13.8 again. Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone suggest a
possible cause?
Clive Hatcher, Mk III / 582 - UK
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 06/05/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Skywaylodge@aol.com
Hey Guys (and a few gals),
I'm try'in this again. Thought I had my Kolb Mark III Classic sold on
Barnstormers. But no -- he bought another one. (For more than my asking price.)
Here's what I have: A Kolb Mark III completed in '03 in Gainesville Fl. Now
hangared at Hidden Lake A/P in Pasco Co. Fl. --- 43 hrs. Rotax 912 engine, W/
adjustable IVO 3 blade prop. BRS 1050 Chute, Kuntzleman Hotbox, Landing light,
Aux.
fuel pump, Grand Rapids EIS W/ VSI, ICOM 4A Radio, Pro Comm Helmet, Avecom
headset, AC 200 PNR, ELT, Ameri - King AK 450, Lang L - 693, Full swivel @
steerable tailwheel, Hundreds of dollars in extras. Green @ White Polytone. One
beautiful aircraft. $29,500.00 but we can talk.
I've talked to Kolb and they said if I can get the plane to them in London
Ky. they would have no trouble selling it for me. Do you agree??????
Herb Lodge --- Cell 1-727-580-0692 - Hm - 1-727-866-1991 (Call anytime)
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| Subject: | Kolb near Fairview Michigan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
A co-worker reported seeing a Kolb tied down at an airport near Fairview MI this
last weekend. Is this person on our list here? Anyone know who it is?
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Shop Hoist for Wt/Bal |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:19:39 -0400
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Thanks for the response on Wt/Bal Bob and John. It helps to know that someone else
is reading the list.
I try to limit my E-mails to a single topic so I left some of the details about
the advantages of determining the CG by suspending the plane from an overhead
support. The toughest part of the balance job was locating and marking the aft
balance limit. After installing the lift strap on the root tube at this point
it was no problem to hook up the crane and started lifting. When the plane was
about 2" off of the hangar floor, determining the amount of forward ballast
and its location was easy. The whole procedure was pure elegance compared to
scrambling around with un-calibrated WalMart scales, wood blocks etc. My hangar
helpers claim I was salivating as I recorded the results
I have seen the two ton shop cranes like mine in all my import tool catalogs but
no other outlet came close my local Pep Boy's $119.00 price. It also picked
up and moved my 700 Lb. lathe like it was a toy.
Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912
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| Subject: | Re: Radio and Voltage Regulator Problem |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Second problem: I am using the Rotax 264 870 - 12 volt regulator on a 582
> engine this normally controls well to 13.8 V but will sometimes (maybe
once
> on a 1.5 hour trip) go up to 16 volts for about 3 minutes then returns to
a
> stable 13.8 again. Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone suggest
a
> possible cause?
>
> Clive Hatcher, Mk III / 582 - UK
Have you verified these voltage readings with a second volt meter? Do you
have a capacitor across the output of the regulator? Are all your
connections tight and corrosion free? Digital or analog voltmeter? Kirk
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| Subject: | Aircraft, Hobby magazines, and books,as well as model airplanes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
A good buddy of mine died and left oooodles of magazines, (at least 25
different titles), Good aviation books including Time Warner, (you know the type),
Lindburgh, many 3rd Reich, and famous titles, including Janes, etc...as well
as 3 ultralights, 1 good condition N3 pup, 1 destroyed n3 pup (good Global VW/2
engine and other parts) and one in progress Skypup..(wood and foam
composition) with a 277 still in the box.
Can anyone help me with advice on how to sell such items...and there are
MANY! I know about Ebay, and have looked up the outdated magazines and they don't
seem to get any bids...should I just tell her to burn them? There are antique
model airplanes of Playboy, Playboy Sr type, done, in partial construction,
wankel engine, and other esoteric engines of multi cylinder etc.
Any advice to me personally at GeoR38@aol.com would be appreciated
George Randolph
firestar driver from The Villages in Fl
ps All the items are located near Warren, Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft, Hobby magazines, and books,as well as |
model airplanes
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> model airplanes
I'll send out an e-mail to our local flyers, maybe somebody would want some
or all.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 09:40 PM 6/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
>
>A good buddy of mine died and left oooodles of magazines, (at least 25
>different titles), Good aviation books including Time Warner, (you know
>the type),
>Lindburgh, many 3rd Reich, and famous titles, including Janes, etc...as well
>as 3 ultralights, 1 good condition N3 pup, 1 destroyed n3 pup (good Global
>VW/2
>engine and other parts) and one in progress Skypup..(wood and foam
>composition) with a 277 still in the box.
>
>Can anyone help me with advice on how to sell such items...and there are
>MANY! I know about Ebay, and have looked up the outdated magazines and
>they don't
>seem to get any bids...should I just tell her to burn them? There are antique
>model airplanes of Playboy, Playboy Sr type, done, in partial construction,
>wankel engine, and other esoteric engines of multi cylinder etc.
>
>Any advice to me personally at GeoR38@aol.com would be appreciated
>
>George Randolph
>firestar driver from The Villages in Fl
>
>ps All the items are located near Warren, Ohio
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Landing gear leg socket broke |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 6/7/2004 2:20:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
firestarii@hotmail.com writes:
Sounds like you may need to replace the gear sockets to regain full
strength. That is a highly-stressed area.
Today we went to Chuck's house & looked at the sockets on his wrecked plane &
it looks like we can chop them out & re-use them. We have already stripped
my fuse.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Firestar II Fuselage Cage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
Does anyone know the approx. price for a new one [just in case repairing the
old one doesn't pan out]?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fuselage Cage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Howard.....
dont know about a Firestar....but I priced a new cage for a firefly 2 weeks
ago from TNK for 2500 bucks.
Good luck!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Broken Gear leg sockets on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
Today, we stripped everything from the cage to get a good look at the damage.
Both sockets were broken where the top of the gear leg ends - left side
completely broken & the right side almost as bad.
It appears to me that if the gear leg went maybe 5" further up into the
socket, my plane would still be in one piece. Why did they design the legs to
go
only maybe 6" into the socket [other than to save maybe 2 lbs.]?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft, Hobby magazines, and books,as well as model |
airplanes
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
George...
lets talk about those N-3's.....both of em..the good one and the
wreck.....minus the engines woud be just what I am looking for a test bed.
Don Gherardini
OEM.Sales / Engineering dept.
American Honda Engines
Power Equipment Company
CortLand, Illinois
800-626-7326
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Gear leg sockets on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| It appears to me that if the gear leg went maybe 5" further up into
the
| socket, my plane would still be in one piece. Why did they design
the legs to go
| only maybe 6" into the socket [other than to save maybe 2 lbs.]?
|
| Howard Shackleford
Howard/Gang:
I discovered this same problem at Grand Island, NY, when I sheared a
gear leg socket on the Firestar by landing "a little" too high and
slow.
During rebuild of fuselage, and redesign of the 4130 gear legs, it was
decided to shove the legs all the way to the intersection of the gear
leg sockets. Never sheared another gear leg socket once the update
was complete. Sometimes it is inevitable that increased strength will
probably also increase weight. I'll take the weight penalty if my
airplane will bring me home.
Take care,
john h (Still doing it that way.)
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Gear leg sockets on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Because they originally didn't know it broke the tube. I have in front of
me a Kolb Aircraft Newsletter dated January 1997 and it has mention of
Firestar I & II gear legs causing frame breakages right at the top of the
gear leg. The recommendation is to make sure your gear leg extends about 4"
past the bolt hole. If it only extends about 1", call Kolb and they will
swap you out a 3" longer set for $30 per pair plus 5$ shipping and handling.
I think this was before the present owners bought the company, so don't get
your hopes up...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 11:51 PM 6/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
>Today, we stripped everything from the cage to get a good look at the damage.
> Both sockets were broken where the top of the gear leg ends - left side
>completely broken & the right side almost as bad.
>
>It appears to me that if the gear leg went maybe 5" further up into the
>socket, my plane would still be in one piece. Why did they design the
>legs to go
>only maybe 6" into the socket [other than to save maybe 2 lbs.]?
>
>Howard Shackleford
>FS II
>SC
>
>
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