---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/12/04: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:34 AM - The 912 lives!!! (Giovanni Day) 2. 05:14 AM - no 377 documentation (Thom Riddle) 3. 08:40 AM - Re: no 377 documentation (Dan Charter) 4. 08:52 AM - documentation (Dan Charter) 5. 09:04 AM - Re: documentation (Giovanni Day) 6. 10:46 AM - Re: UL: Handheld Radio Batteries (Bob N.) 7. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: UL: Handheld Radio Batteries (Bob Bean) 8. 12:28 PM - Re: no 377 documentation (Thom Riddle) 9. 12:52 PM - Re: no 377 documentation (bryan green) 10. 03:18 PM - Re: documentation (Dan Charter) 11. 04:03 PM - seat belt (Mike Pierzina) 12. 05:17 PM - Re: seat belt (Charlie England) 13. 05:18 PM - Re: seat belt (Charlie England) 14. 06:36 PM - Re: seat belt (Charlie England) 15. 06:37 PM - Re: seat belt (Charlie England) 16. 08:47 PM - 912 carb linkage (Giovanni Day) 17. 09:15 PM - 912 plug gap (Giovanni Day) 18. 09:42 PM - Re: 912 carb linkage (Larry Bourne) 19. 10:55 PM - Re: 912 plug gap (Giovanni Day) 20. 11:26 PM - Re: 912 carb linkage (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:08 AM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: Kolb-List: The 912 lives!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Good Morning All, I just got my used 912 installed and fired it up about 3:30am. Very exciting to hear how quiet this thing is. Thanks to those who encouraged me to keep it and sell the 582. Maybe I can get motivated to get those wings covered now. I was thinking of having Brian cover them for me as my time is very limited, however this 912 project put a hurtin on my walking around money so I may have to suck it up and do it myself. He is very busy now anyway. Giovanni Day MKIII/912 PS the 582 is still available. $3900.00 carbs and exhaust but no box. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:51 AM PST US From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: no 377 documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" It is time to change plugs on my 377 FS and I have no service documentation on this engine. I have found the 447 engine manuals online and they indicate a spark plug gap of .020". Do any of you running the 377 know if this is also correct for the 377? Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:38 AM PST US From: "Dan Charter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: no 377 documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" My book states .016" for a 377 or a 447. D Charter Firestar 1 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: no 377 documentation > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" > > It is time to change plugs on my 377 FS and I have no service documentation on this engine. I have found the 447 engine manuals online and they indicate a spark plug gap of .020". Do any of you running the 377 know if this is also correct for the 377? > > Thom in Buffalo > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:44 AM PST US From: "Dan Charter" Subject: Kolb-List: documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" Hi, I've been having one heck of a time getting a manual with exploded views with part numbers from Kolb. For some reason there isn't a serial number on the root tube. Kolb won't send me anything because they're afraid that I'll build a plane from scratch. I can see their point but this is a "85" original FS 1. The original owner is from Atlanta. An Air Canada pilot. If you're on this list please contact me. I need the numbers. I want to make sure all is in order on the plane and replace parts when needed. It's a great flying plane and want to keep it that way. Dan Charter Firestar 1 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:28 AM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Maybe you could take some photos of the plane and send them to Travis as proof of actually having one. Giovanni >Hi, I've been having one heck of a time getting a manual with exploded views with part numbers from Kolb. For some reason >there isn't a serial number on the root tube. Kolb won't send me anything because they're afraid that I'll build a plane >>from scratch. I can see their point but this is a "85" original FS 1. The original owner is from Atlanta. An Air Canada >>pilot. If you're on this list please contact me. I need the numbers. I want to make sure all is in order on the plane and >>replace parts when needed. It's a great flying plane and want to keep it that way. Dan Charter Firestar 1 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:50 AM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Kolb-List: Re: UL: Handheld Radio Batteries --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." I think Costco will have a deal on NIMH batts & charger, normally abt $20, but with coupon $15. Will ck and send date(s) later. It has four AAs and two AAAs with charger for four (max) at a time. Bob N. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:37 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: UL: Handheld Radio Batteries --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean All NiMH batteries were not created equal....after some disappointment with the lasting power of a nikon digital cam, I procurred some 2200 mAh, brand name Powerex. Much improvement. Bought em online, if anyone is interested in the (good, prompt) source, contact me offlist. -BB do not archive Bob N. wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." > >I think Costco will have a deal on NIMH batts & charger, normally abt >$20, but with coupon $15. Will ck and send date(s) later. It has four >AAs and two AAAs with charger for four (max) at a time. > >Bob N. > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:19 PM PST US From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: re: no 377 documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" Thanks Dan. .016" it will be. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:14 PM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: no 377 documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" My book has .015 to .020 in. Thom for the plugs and .012 to .015 in. for the point gap. Bryan Green (Elgin SC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Kolb-List: no 377 documentation > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" > > It is time to change plugs on my 377 FS and I have no service documentation on this engine. I have found the 447 engine manuals online and they indicate a spark plug gap of .020". Do any of you running the 377 know if this is also correct for the 377? > > Thom in Buffalo > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:18:12 PM PST US From: "Dan Charter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: documentation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" I offered pics. He's trying to get his boss to OK the manual. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: documentation > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" > > Maybe you could take some photos of the plane and send them to Travis as > proof of actually having one. > > > Giovanni > > > >Hi, I've been having one heck of a time getting a manual with exploded > views with part numbers from Kolb. For some reason >there isn't a serial > number on the root tube. Kolb won't send me anything because they're > afraid that I'll build a plane >>from scratch. I can see their point but > this is a "85" original FS 1. The original owner is from Atlanta. An Air > Canada >>pilot. If you're on this list please contact me. I need the > numbers. I want to make sure all is in order on the plane and >>replace > parts when needed. It's a great flying plane and want to keep it that > way. Dan Charter Firestar 1 > > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:59 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: seat belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Does the rear seat in a FSII need a shoulder strap on the seat belt ? do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:33 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: seat belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England Mike Pierzina wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > >Does the rear seat in a FSII need a shoulder strap on the seat belt ? > > >do not archive > Hmmm... Does the back seater need to keep his back muscles/tendons, teeth -) If you're putting an N number on a new one, the inspector probably won't issue an a/w certificate without one for both seats. Charlie ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:00 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: seat belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England Mike Pierzina wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > >Does the rear seat in a FSII need a shoulder strap on the seat belt ? > > >do not archive > Hmmm... Does the back seater need to keep his back muscles/tendons, teeth -) If you're putting an N number on a new one, the inspector probably won't issue an a/w certificate without one for both seats. Charlie ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:19 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: seat belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England Mike Pierzina wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > >Does the rear seat in a FSII need a shoulder strap on the seat belt ? > > >do not archive > Hmmm... Does the back seater need to keep his back muscles/tendons, teeth -) If you're putting an N number on a new one, the inspector probably won't issue an a/w certificate without one for each seat. Charlie ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:12 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: seat belt --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England Mike Pierzina wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > >Does the rear seat in a FSII need a shoulder strap on the seat belt ? > > >do not archive > Hmmm... Does the back seater need to keep his back muscles/tendons, teeth -) If you're putting an N number on a new one, the inspector probably won't issue an a/w certificate without one for each seat. Charlie ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:07 PM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: Kolb-List: 912 carb linkage --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Hello all, I see where the stock carb setup defaults to full throttle. Why is this? The 912 I got used was modified to be idle by default. I could not find any info on this in the archives. Thanks Giovanni Day MKIII 912 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:29 PM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: Kolb-List: 912 plug gap --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Hello again, I have searched everywhere and cannot find the spark plug gap specs. Can anyone help? Maybe it is in my face and I have missed it. Giovanni Day MKIII 912 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:21 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 carb linkage --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" If the cable breaks, you keep on flying. With default idle, you don't. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: Kolb-List: 912 carb linkage > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" > > Hello all, > > I see where the stock carb setup defaults to full throttle. Why is this? > The 912 I got used was modified to be idle by default. I could not find > any info on this in the archives. Thanks > > > Giovanni Day > MKIII 912 > > > Do Not Archive > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:42 PM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 912 plug gap --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Sorry to trouble the list. I Dled the Maintenance Manual 912 Series (Line Maintenance) and found .027 to .315. Giovanni Day MKIII 912 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Hello again, I have searched everywhere and cannot find the spark plug gap specs. Can anyone help? Maybe it is in my face and I have missed it. Giovanni Day MKIII 912 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:26:12 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 carb linkage --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 6/12/04 10:42:41 PM Central Standard Time, biglar@gogittum.com writes: << If the cable breaks, you keep on flying. With default idle, you don't. Lar. Do not Archive. >> Lar, I dont usually chime in But......... What happens if it defaults to wide open throttle and you are not in possition to take off yet? Nose over? Hummmmm Which is better. Guess it depends on where you are at the time. It would be scarry on the ground in a firefly. Do Not Archive Ed