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1. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: documentation (Thom Riddle)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: Delayed Delivery of Email (Bob Bean)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: seat belt (John Hauck)
4. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: documentation (Larry Bourne)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: New Firefly for sale (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
6. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: documentation (John Hauck)
7. 01:14 PM - Re: seat belt (Mike Pierzina)
8. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: seat belt (Charlie England)
9. 09:42 PM - Re: 912 carb linkage (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: documentation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Sorry, Bryan. I did not mean to get anyone into trouble. I was just looking for
some drawings of specific parts like the gear legs so I could make some repairs.
I do not have a builder's manual or anything else that could come close to
make anyone think that you sold me a set of plans that could be used to build
an airplane by. I apologize if my last post created a problem for anyone. Jeez.
This group is getting testy, so this will indeed be my last post. Adios. I'm
out of here.
Thom in Buffalo
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Subject: | Re: Delayed Delivery of Email |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I think that's part of the reason new guys send multiple posts....
they expect to see theirs come up right after sending.
-They have to mill around in the digital no mans land for a bit.
-BB do not archive
John Hauck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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>Hi Gang:
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>My two replies to Charlie's msgs were sent by me more than 6 hours
>prior to showing up on the Kolb List.
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>I wonder where they hand out all that time before reporting for duty.
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>john h
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>DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Willamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
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| The requirement for seat and/or shoulder harness can be seen in FAR
91.205
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| (14) For small civil airplanes manufactured after July 18, 1978, an
approved
| shoulder harness for each front seat.
| John Williamson
| Arlington, TX
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Hi John W/All:
Looks like shoulder harness is required only for each front seat. I
interpret that as not being required for the rear seats.
john h
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Subject: | Re: documentation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Don't let 'em get ya down, Thom, you've been an excellent contributor, and
we don't want to lose you. Like the man said - "Scroom if'n they can't take
a joke." Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: documentation
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
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> Sorry, Bryan. I did not mean to get anyone into trouble. I was just
looking for some drawings of specific parts like the gear legs so I could
make some repairs. I do not have a builder's manual or anything else that
could come close to make anyone think that you sold me a set of plans that
could be used to build an airplane by. I apologize if my last post created a
problem for anyone. Jeez. This group is getting testy, so this will indeed
be my last post. Adios. I'm out of here.
>
> Thom in Buffalo
>
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Subject: | Re: New Firefly for sale |
message of Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:56:36 -0700
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
Anyone interested in a new Firefly with 447, heel brakes, Polytone
paint, necessary flight and engine instruments...NEW with engine
break-in time only should contact:
sahebb@webtv.net ask for Ms. Hebb.
Her husband, the builder, recently passed away and the family wishes to
sell the aircraft. It appears to need only some TLC to fly.
Contact Ms. Hebb through the address I've listed or, e-mail me and I'll
pass it on.
I believe the kit was purchased new in 2000 and engine started the
first time and broken in late summer 2003. Some tools and extra
parts/instruments go with the sale.
PS...Thanks again, George...if friends are a measure of a man's wealh,
you and David certainly added to mine.
Hillbilly Mike
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: documentation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
looking for some drawings of specific parts like the gear legs so I
could make some repairs. I do not have a builder's manual or anything
else that could come close to make anyone think that you sold me a set
of plans that could be used to build an airplane by. I apologize if my
last post created a problem for anyone. Jeez. This group is getting
testy, so this will indeed be my last post. Adios. I'm out of here.
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| Thom in Buffalo
Hi Thom/All:
The original Firestar is an old airplane kit'd by "old" Kolb Aircraft
Co, Inc. When New Kolb Aircraft Company bought Old Kolb, more than 5
years ago, they didn't buy the original Firestar which was already out
of production, same as Ultrastar, original Twinstar, Mark II Twinstar,
and a couple other models of the Firestar that I am not familiar with.
New Kolb has spares for their current inventory of kit planes. They
are doing much better at that than Daimler Chrysler that does not
support my old 1992 Dodge Cummins, and hasn't since it was 10 years
old.
There never was a set of plans sent out with a Firestar Kit extensive
enough to build a Firestar from scratch from.
A few of the parts from current production Kolb aircraft will fit the
original Firestar. I talked to Travis Brown this morning about this
subject. Travis said he will do everything he can to help folks out
that need parts. Travis also works for the owner of Kolb Aircraft,
Bruce Chesnut. He is obligated to carry out Bruces wishes and his
policies. If what you want goes against what Bruce wants, then Travis
has no choice but to follow orders. However, if you should like to
take your problem to Bruce Chesnut, I am sure Bruce would be more than
happy to take the time to see if he can help solve your parts problem.
I personally do not believe New Kolb Aircraft is afraid someone out
there will start building Kolb aircraft from scratch. The Ferguson
aircraft was a very close copy of the MKII Kolb. Many parts on it
were identical to what Homer Kolb and Dennis Souder designed, tested,
and produced.
I hope this helps clear up the parts matter for old Kolb aircraft a
little bit.
john h
Titus, Alabama
MKIII 2,000+ hours
582 200+ hours
912UL 1,145.9 hours
912ULS 700+ hours
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
I talked to an EAA Tech Counsler yesterday.
He said the rear seat belt doesn't require the shoulder harness, but it is recomended...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Mike Pierzina wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
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>I talked to an EAA Tech Counsler yesterday.
> He said the rear seat belt doesn't require the shoulder harness, but it is recomended...
>
I stand corrected. That's once already this year & it's not even July
yet. (obligatory :-) )
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The FAA does move in mysterious ways.
I wonder how they handled the certified Cub copies that were being built
a few years ago, since the pilot flies from the back seat....
(another obligatory :-) )
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: 912 carb linkage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/13/04 4:54:11 AM Central Standard Time, Lynnp@c-gate.net
writes:
<<
Simple just turn the ignition off...... >>
Paul,
I guess the obvious wasnt so obvious, But I would still hate to be
standing on the ground pulling on the starter of the Firefly, and have full
throttle, when I thought I had the throttle set at Idle. That is what it would
be if
the cable broke unawares. Either way could pose a deadly result.
Ed Do Not Archive
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