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1. 03:35 AM - Re: N.E. Fly-in (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
2. 04:45 AM - Re: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! (Masqqqqqqq@aol.com)
3. 07:01 AM - Re: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! (Larry Bourne)
4. 07:51 AM - [Fw: NE Fly-in] (Terry)
5. 07:59 AM - Re: N.E. Fly-in (Terry)
6. 08:15 AM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
7. 08:20 AM - Re: Trailering a Kolb FireFly - 2nd try (jerb)
8. 09:11 AM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (John Hauck)
9. 09:25 AM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
10. 09:47 AM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
11. 11:03 AM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (John Hauck)
12. 11:35 AM - Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change (jerb)
13. 12:55 PM - Re: 912 carb linkage/Rutan perspective (DAquaNut@aol.com)
14. 01:19 PM - Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change (DAquaNut@aol.com)
15. 02:13 PM - Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change (Jack & Louise Hart)
16. 05:19 PM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (Bob Bean)
17. 06:06 PM - Re: Trailering a Kolb FireFly - 2nd try (Larry Bourne)
18. 06:23 PM - Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska (Larry Bourne)
19. 06:33 PM - Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change (Jack & Louise Hart)
20. 06:54 PM - Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change (Don Gherardini)
21. 07:24 PM - Re: 912 carb linkage/Rutan perspective (N27SB@aol.com)
22. 07:45 PM - NE Flying (Chuck Davis - Comcast)
23. 07:58 PM - Re: NE Flying (John Hauck)
24. 08:17 PM - Father's Day weather .. (artdog1512)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
Denny Rowe wrote:
> Earl others,
> I plan on leaving Shreveport on Saturday morning and either flying to Homers
> direct, or meeting Terry and others at Smoketown, depends on what others
> making the trip are doing, and how the timing works out.
> I will be returning to Shreveport in the afternoon and staying there till
> Sunday.
> Of course this all depends on the weather and the Good Lords will.
> Denny Rowe, Mk-3
> PS: Would it be a good idea for all of us to exchange cell phone numbers so
> we have a way of keeping track of whos where?
Denny,
I hope to get over to Shreveport on Friday too. I am only a half hour
flight from there so I will be going home in the evenings. My cell phone
is verizon (717)572-2506. I haven't heard much from the local Lancaster
Co. kolbers yet. I guess they are waiting to see what the the Lord's
will is! Proverbs 19:21 ~ Earl
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| Subject: | Re: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Masqqqqqqq@aol.com
NO don't go there. Probably a site with a trojan virus, spyware, dialers,
etc.
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| Subject: | Re: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I assume you're cautioning me about my email last night, but it'd sure help
if you left part of it in your reply so we'd know for sure what you mean.
Thanks for your concern - I deleted it.........unread. Also, I'm still
getting an email with an attachment every day from Ulflyer, and he doesn't
respond to emails. I delete those, too. Be careful. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: <Masqqqqqqq@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Masqqqqqqq@aol.com
>
> NO don't go there. Probably a site with a trojan virus, spyware, dialers,
> etc.
>
>
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| Subject: | [Fwd: NE Fly-in] |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Terry wrote:
> Are you guy's getting ready and excited for this weekends N.E. Fly-in at Shreveport
North
> with a trip to Homer's on Saturday? I know I am and praying for good weather,
at least on
> Saturday!!!! I also know Homer and Clara are looking forward to a nice group
of Kolb's to
> fly into their place and pay respects. They are planning on feeding us which
I told him
> wasn't necessary, but he insisted.
>
> So in that vain, I will again attempt to get a count of those planning to make
it to
> Homer's. This is the list I have presently, if your not on it or can't make
it let me know
> so that I can pass it on to Homer and Clara.
>
> Alexander, George
> Blackwell, Charlie
> Davis, Chuck
> Dean, James
> Griffin, Bob
> James, Ken
> Olendorf, Scott
> Reed, Joel
> Rowe, Denny
> Schutte, Jeff
> Swartz, Terry
> Thom
> Varnes, Bill
> Weachter, Luray
> Zimmerman, Earl
> Zimmerman, Gene
> Zimmerman, Wilmer
> And me
>
>
> All are "Welcome", the more the merrier!!!! If you not on the list, please get
a hold of me
> by Thursday so that I can alert Homer and his wife.
>
> Again I'll state that if some of you want to meet up at Smoketown on Saturday
at 8:00 am to
> travel together to Homer's, let me know. Otherwise it's every pilot for himself.
I had told
> Homer that we would start arriving around 9:00 am or later. Remember the rain
date is
> Sunday and to avoid the church at the western end of the grass strip!
>
> See you on Friday at Wellsboro or Saturday at Homer's,
>
> Terry - FireFly #95
Don't know what happened to this message on Monday! Hope it goes through this
time. I have
been busy with a family emergency and didn't notice that the message never made
it to the list.
Hope all of you are still planning on attending!
Terry - FireFly # 95
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
>
> Denny Rowe wrote:
>
> > Earl others,
> > I plan on leaving Shreveport on Saturday morning and either flying to Homers
> > direct, or meeting Terry and others at Smoketown, depends on what others
> > making the trip are doing, and how the timing works out.
> > I will be returning to Shreveport in the afternoon and staying there till
> > Sunday.
> > Of course this all depends on the weather and the Good Lords will.
> > Denny Rowe, Mk-3
> > PS: Would it be a good idea for all of us to exchange cell phone numbers so
> > we have a way of keeping track of whos where?
>
> Denny,
> I hope to get over to Shreveport on Friday too. I am only a half hour
> flight from there so I will be going home in the evenings. My cell phone
> is verizon (717)572-2506. I haven't heard much from the local Lancaster
> Co. kolbers yet. I guess they are waiting to see what the the Lord's
> will is! Proverbs 19:21 ~ Earl
>
Earl,
Sent an e-mail to the Kolb list on Monday that wasn't posted and therefore haven't
received an
feed back from the group. Tried again today and got it bounced back again.
Will try again,
Terry
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| Subject: | Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com>
Hey John H,
Last time you made this flight to the arctic circle and back, uncle Craig and myself
watched you land at Oshkosh. At the time of your arrival you were very
sick with I believe a sinus infection that also had gone into your ears. I'm
sure you have asked your local doctor to give you some antibiotics for the road,
just in case?
Good luck,
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight to Barrow, Alaska
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
For those that are interested, here's some flight data I have come up
with for the flight to Barrow, Alaska:
Distance: 4,822 sm (Direct flight is only 3669.5 sm) (Straight line a
lot shorter, but not nearly as fun and interesting)
ETE: 65 hours
Fuel: 321 gal
Not hard to make a pretty good flight out of going and returning home:
9,644 sm
130 hours
642 gal
I hope the flight will be much longer than that though. I also plan
on a flight to Inuvik, North West Territory, Canada, the northernmost
point of the North American Continent in Canada, plus a lot of flying
in the Alaska region to places I did not have a chance to fly to on my
previous two Alaska flights.
The figures, above, are much the same as what I got on the flight to
Barrow, back to Oroville, WA, east to Oshkosh, WI, and south to Titus,
AL.
Wish you all could go with me. I'll take a lot of pictures and try to
keep you updated on the Internet by email.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb FireFly - 2nd try |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Dan,
Could you elaborate on the wing flapping issue and in what manner you
connected them. Were they folded, on the rest, or removed from the fuselage.
jerb
At 06:07 PM 6/15/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
>
>You can keep the wings from flapping when folded by connecting them with pvc
>pipe with a couple of 90's. Secure it to the deck with plumbers tape and
>screws. It worked when I hauled mine 330 miles. Do Not Archive
>Dan Charter
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>To: "Kolb List" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb FireFly - 2nd try
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> > The new owner of our Kolb FireFly has been fighting weather here in Texas
> > for several weekends and we have finely decided to transport it on a
> > trailer to get it home, about 275 miles.
> >
> > I need some guidance on how to do this on an open trailer with a wood deck
> > and minimize any chance of damage. I found an old post by Ralph about
> > leaving the wings on and would prefer leaving the wings attached at the
> > folding mechanism. This all seems simple until your faced with actually
> > doing it.
> >
> > Can it be transported with the tail folded up, and the wings (rotated to a
> > vertical position) and folded back along side the boom tube supported on
> > say a old couch cushion on the bed of the trailer and strapped down.
> >
> > What I had in mind is we would strap the wheels down at the inside axle
> > with the boom tube tied down to a padded support with the tail wheel off
> > the deck. That will keep the tail wheel spring from bounding and prevent
> > side movement. The Horiz. stab tail surfaces would be folded up with foam
> > padding inserted in between them and held against the vertical stab by a
> > 2x3" padded boards on each side held and snugged together by bolts with
> > wing nuts on each on each end. Note - the wings do not have the holes cut
> > out for the folded position storage bracket nor has the hole been drilled
> > in the boom tube for it. I thought the wings could be folded back along
> > side the boom tube with the leading edge in board of the tip supported on
>a
> > old couch cushion and then strapped down to prevent movement. The
> > flaperons would be held in a vertical position with a bungee cord between
> > the two - maybe a lock on each wing to hold them straight up. Planned to
> > cover the front and full enclosed cockpit with a light weight (blue) tarp
> > to protect it from rain and road debris.
> >
> > Comments and suggestions welcomed. If you might have a few pictures of
>how
> > you successfully done this I would appreciate your emailing me a copy
>direct.
> >
> > Thanks - the new owner have been very patient but we giving up on the
> > weekend weather.
> > jerb
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Craig and myself watched you land at Oshkosh. At the time of your
arrival you were very sick with I believe a sinus infection that also
had gone into your ears. I'm sure you have asked your local doctor to
give you some antibiotics for the road, just in case?
|
| Good luck,
| Tim
Hi Tim/All:
Yes, I was a sick puppy by the time I arrived OSH.
Started getting sick in Washington State. Pushed from there to OSH.
Was taking antibiotics, antihistamines, motrin, which were not doing
me a whole lot of good. Hope I don't get that way on this flight.
Thanks for the recommendation. I have always had an emergency med kit
made up by my family doc to carry on my longer flights. Will have one
on this flight also.
Time is getting short. Still got a lot of stuff to get done before I
can leave. Since I have no one at home to pay my bills, etc., I have
to try and get all these little details taken care of before I blast
out of here, since I will be gone longer than my normal monthly bill
paying window.
BTW: Did Uncle Craig get the fuel pump gasket that was to be sent
from Ronnie Smith, South Mississippi Lt Acft?
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
it sounds like you guys have a big flying crew ,it sure sounds like fun.
where are you from? I have been flying for about 10 years now and just recently
purchased a Kolb Firestar I dont know anyone in my area that Flies Ultralight
Aircraft there for I am usually alone but I still love the heavens every
chance I get but work keeps getting in the way and I dont get the air time I would
like to have
Flying over Maine
Ellery
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| Subject: | Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com>
John,
I dont think uncle Craig recieved the gasket. What address did you have it sent
to?
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight to Barrow, Alaska
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Craig and myself watched you land at Oshkosh. At the time of your
arrival you were very sick with I believe a sinus infection that also
had gone into your ears. I'm sure you have asked your local doctor to
give you some antibiotics for the road, just in case?
|
| Good luck,
| Tim
Hi Tim/All:
Yes, I was a sick puppy by the time I arrived OSH.
Started getting sick in Washington State. Pushed from there to OSH.
Was taking antibiotics, antihistamines, motrin, which were not doing
me a whole lot of good. Hope I don't get that way on this flight.
Thanks for the recommendation. I have always had an emergency med kit
made up by my family doc to carry on my longer flights. Will have one
on this flight also.
Time is getting short. Still got a lot of stuff to get done before I
can leave. Since I have no one at home to pay my bills, etc., I have
to try and get all these little details taken care of before I blast
out of here, since I will be gone longer than my normal monthly bill
paying window.
BTW: Did Uncle Craig get the fuel pump gasket that was to be sent
from Ronnie Smith, South Mississippi Lt Acft?
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Flying over Maine
| Ellery
|
|
Hi Ellery/All:
Yes, we have a large group od Kolb builders and flyers from all over
the world.
Welcome aboard.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Jack, have you done any research on the effect of the engine thrust line
tilt up and down relative to the normal flying attitude? I've found it
impacts the stick forces and trim requirements. I adjusted mine by adding
or removing large fender washers between the engine on one end on the mount
to titl the
How about the thrust line angleAt 06:53 PM 6/15/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
>FireFlyers and Kolbers,
>
>Today, I ran a study to see what happens when one moves the thrust line up
>about seven and three-quarters inches. The propeller was set to limit
>engine speed to 6,000 rpm in level flight. Data was taken at cruise rpm of
>5,200. Basically the move cost me 4.5 mph. The results can be seen on the
>update attached to the bottom of:
>
>http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly56.html
>
>I believe what it is telling me is that one must pay very close attention to
>feeding clean air into the propeller that is pushing. My next effort will
>be to clean up the center section under the wing and just aft of the engine.
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Jackson, MO
>
>
>Jack & Louise Hart
>jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912 carb linkage/Rutan perspective |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/15/04 6:53:57 AM Central Standard Time, N27SB@aol.com
writes:
<< A cockpit tailwheel release and wot default might be a good balance of
safety.
For what it's worth.
>>
Steve,
I guess the best solution would be an electric starter. But on my
Firefly that would make me non compliant with with ultralight regs. Overweight.
To
bad they wont address the REAL safety issues with 254lbs Im not sure I can
even have brakes and be legal. I think they took our request to increase just
a little and turned it into a way to force FAT ultralights to comply and make
a little $$$$$$$ at the same time.
ED
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 6/15/04 6:10:40 PM Central Standard Time, jbhart@ldd.net
writes:
<<
I believe what it is telling me is that one must pay very close attention to
feeding clean air into the propeller that is pushing. My next effort will
be to clean up the center section under the wing and just aft of the engine.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
>>
Jack,
Just wanted to say that I for one appriciate you posting your experimets
with the firefly and taking your time to share. Your info has been a great
help to me even though I havent flown mine yet. There seem to be a lot less
fireflies out there and less advice.
Keep it up,
Ed (Hou)
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:46:06 -0500
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change
>Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>Reply-To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>X-ELNK-AV: 0
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
>Jack, have you done any research on the effect of the engine thrust line
>tilt up and down relative to the normal flying attitude? I've found it
>impacts the stick forces and trim requirements. I adjusted mine by adding
>or removing large fender washers between the engine on one end on the mount
>to titl the
>
>
> How about the thrust line angle
Jerb,
The top of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly56.html
pretty well explains the process that I have gone through to get the FireFly
trimmed for 55 mphi. I don't want to fly much faster with my head out
because it is hard on my neck to fly faster.
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly20.html
shows how much I had to lift the horizontal stabilizer to get the FireFly to
cruise with a neutral elevator.
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly101.html
explains the effect of shifting the thrust line up and down upon elevator
and wing loads.
One just has to try things to see what is better. I have found that I have
trouble deciding what is better. Every time I do something I am too
optimistic and the FireFly flies better on the next flight. Then later I
wonder if this is really the case. That is why I am using the AeroDesign
Propeller Selector software. After any change, I make sure the engine will
max out at 6,000 rpm in level flight, then I make a cruise test run (5,200
rpm) up and down wind at 1,500 feet asl. Then I compute the average speed
and plug it and the current prop pitch setting into the software. Then one
can look at the propeller thrust, hp out and in, and efficiency to decide is
this configuration better than before. If I believe it is, I then make a
half hour plus flight cruising at 5,200 rpm to get a gph check. If the fuel
flow rate decreases as speed remains the same or the fuel flow rate remains
the same and the speed increases, it confirms that yes the last change was a
good one. This process takes a while, but the FireFly has moved from 2.3
gph to just over 2 gph and is flying over ten mph faster at 5,200
rpm.
Part of the problem is that the Victor 1+ has a larger drag profile than the
Rotax 447 and blanks out more of the propeller. There are many other things
that can be done to help the FireFly to pick up a little more speed. But
most of them involve adding weight, and I am close to the 254 pound limit.
I have slowly been removing things to save weight, and moving things on to
me (the radio and gps) so that they do not count as being part of the
FireFly to stay legal. I am going to move the power converters for the
radio and gps off the seat (cheek board) into my vest. It will save 4-5
ounces. I could not do this for a living, but as a retiree I am having great
fun. And I am rambling, so it is a good time to quit. Thanks for asking.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Ellery, springeraviation.net will give you the locations of a few here
on the list. Stay tuned for further entertainment.
BTW in the direction of obscure info, I was affixing all the transfers,
numbers, decals etc. in the past two days and ran into a little difficulty
with the first one: being over-anticipatory, mine were at least a couple
years old and, even tho being kept in cool place, did not want to
peel for application. The first one (an "experimental" strip) I tried
soaking in water...NG. fuggittaboudit. The successsful approach
is to repeatedly swipe the paper backing with a lacquer thinner-
soaked rag until the paper is semi translucent. Peels good and
transfer accomplished. Did the N-numbers the same way.
-BB, MkIII, N3851E, starting to look pretty good, tempted
to place it on a pedestal by the driveway like a defunct AFB
ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
>it sounds like you guys have a big flying crew ,it sure sounds like fun.
>where are you from?
> Flying over Maine
> Ellery
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kolb FireFly - 2nd try |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Go into my website and open "Building Vamoose," then go to "Single Pictures"
and finally, "Securing in the Trailer." Even got pictures.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb FireFly - 2nd try
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Dan,
> Could you elaborate on the wing flapping issue and in what manner you
> connected them. Were they folded, on the rest, or removed from the
fuselage.
> jerb
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight to Barrow, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Ahhhhhhhhh..............finally...............a use for
Vamoose................ :-) Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight to Barrow, Alaska
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> -BB, MkIII, N3851E, starting to look pretty good, tempted
> to place it on a pedestal by the driveway like a defunct AFB
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
> .................................. There seem to be a lot less
>fireflies out there and less advice.
>
> Keep it up,
>
> Ed (Hou)
>
> Do Not Archive
Ed,
Don't get discouraged. The FireFly was one of the later designs. The
highest serial number I have seen on this list is in the mid 90's. So
surely, there are more than 100 FireFly's in the air. Let's face it, we are
on the bottom of the feeding chain. We have no N number, line men do not
what to fill us up because we are not big spenders at the pump, GA visitors
pass us by because we fly toys, and we have get prior permission to fly into
tower controlled airports, we have to give way to just about everyone and we
have use the dreaded 2 cycle engine.
But, they like to take my hangar rent, invite me to experimental row at the
air shows because it is small and draws a crowd, count my take off and
landings to get federal money. I do not have to fly it out of state to
escape taxes, I can do all my own inspections and make changes without
asking anyones approval. And, I use the taxiways as a runway and by doing
so stay out from under foot and avoid GA queues and runway incursions.
This has to be about the least hassle and the most fun for the flying
dollar. Where can you have this much fun for about $4.00 per hour? If you
throttle it back and hit the thermals, it can cost a lot less.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Thrust Line and Cruise Speed Change |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Well said jack....
Nothing with more bang for the buck than a FireFly I think too!
my bird....cage SN 098 was welded by the old Kolb...and part of the transfer
of inventory in the purchase by TNK....kit then sold by TNK as one of their
first FireFly sales.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: 912 carb linkage/Rutan perspective |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Ed, You wrote,
Steve,
I guess the best solution would be an electric starter. But on my
Firefly that would make me non compliant with with ultralight regs.
Overweight.
You have my sympathy and support( I plan to build a firefly next) I think
anything that is a safety device should have a weight allowwance. You know, like
a BRS.
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steve boetto
MKIII Classic
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Davis - Comcast" <davis207@comcast.net>
I am leaving from Central NJ Friday morning, stoping at Smoketown to re-fuel.
I am looking forward to seeing everyone. (Has anyone pointed out to John H that
given the distance from AL to AK, PA is not that far out of the way? he he
he.)
As Homer's is 60% of the way home (and Sunday is our anniversary as well as Father's
day) I am continuing on home Saturday.
My cell is 609 462 9499. Any one there on the list, give me a call, or just gather
around the white and red Firefly.
Friday, is anyone planning on flying in together? I am happy to join up with anyone
heading the same way.
Chuck Davis
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
(Has anyone pointed out to John H that given the distance from AL to
AK, PA is not that far out of the way? he he he.)
Chuck/Gang:
It has been 10 years since the last time I landed at Homer Kolb's.
Way too long. Lord willing and the creek don't rise, I'll join you
all next year for the flyin to Homer's.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Father's Day weather .. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
Time: 04:11:47 AM PST US
From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: N.E. Fly-in
Terry wrote:
> The fly-in at Shreveport North at Wellsville starts
on Friday the
18th.
> and will be a good staging point for the flight to
Homer's on
Saturday.>>>>
Terry,
Are there any more detailed plans for the Homer
flight? Who all is leaving from
Smoketown? ~ Earl>>>
i just checked the weather forecast and it looks
kinda "ify" for the coming weekend. cloudy, poor
visibility and 30% chance of rain. what other kind of
weather is there? isn't this the way it always is? i
was gonna fly out of Shoestring up to Shrevesport but
i don't know. everyone's watching the forecast and no
one wants to commit to flying up just yet... the
weather might be good enough for a "get together" but
not so good for VFR UL flight. ... i think this will
be another "fly-in" where most people "drive-in"....
we'll see ............... tim
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