Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/22/04


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:23 AM - Re: Fw: pump gasket (CRAIG M NELSON)
     2. 06:45 AM - Re: Messages (Larry Bourne)
     3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Messages (Larry Bourne)
     4. 07:04 AM - Re: Messages (Larry Bourne)
     5. 08:59 AM - screwed up? (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
     6. 10:06 AM - Re: Fw: start engine(oil purge912 uls) (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
     7. 10:12 AM - Re: screwed up? (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
     8. 11:20 AM - Re: Fw: start engine(oil purge912 uls) (John Hauck)
     9. 11:22 AM - Re: screwed up? (John Cooley)
    10. 11:22 AM - Re: screwed up? (John Hauck)
    11. 12:21 PM - Re: 912 ULS temps? (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
    12. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: Messages (Dan Charter)
    13. 03:06 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 06/21/04 (Vic)
    14. 03:06 PM - Fw: [Canards] EZ's at the Mojave Space Launch (flykolb)
    15. 03:35 PM - Re: Fw: [Canards] EZ's at the Mojave Space Launch (N27SB@aol.com)
    16. 03:41 PM - Re: Sat Phone Replaces PLB (Cory Emberson)
    17. 04:40 PM - Rotax 503 exchange program (Jon Croke)
    18. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Messages (George Bass)
    19. 06:05 PM - fuselage jig (Paul Petty)
    20. 09:36 PM - Long EZ's n Kolbs (GeoR38@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:23:09 AM PST US
    From: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: pump gasket
    Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 06:22:37 -0700 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "CRAIG M NELSON" <vitalfx0@msn.com> John It must have gone to the old add.Not to worry glad to have tried to help a fellow aviator. uncle craig PS: You must have gotten the fuel pump gasket. I may have had it sent to an old address.


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    Time: 06:45:15 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Messages
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> I'll check it out. Thanks. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Messages > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> > > You can use the blocked senders list but they just change their name a > little every time and still go thru. It sounds like you have a spyware > problem. Type in spybot in your search and download it for free. Also Norton > has a anti spam program you can buy. Get your pop up blocker from yahoo or > msn for free. Do Not Archive > Dan Charter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: Messages > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > > > Sorry this isn't exactly Kolb related, but................ I'm using > dial up connections in campgrounds now, and spam is giving me fits, locking > my computer up for long periods


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    Time: 07:02:36 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Messages
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> I've got a set-up now that separates the spam and lets me look it over before deleting it, but my current problem is with long downloads plugging things up. I'd like to be able to do something like "cancel current download," and go to the next one, but so far I haven't seen anything that'll let me do that. It was suggested that I go to AOL, but I'm sorry..............I just can't stand it. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Messages > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > > I just upgraded to Norton's 2004 Internet Security product with the anti-spam feature. It does not block spam from being downloaded. With your input it creates a "block" list and "allowed" list. Email from "allowed" email addresses is downloaded to your inbox as well as all those not on the "block" list. Emails from addresses on the "block" list are also downloaded but diverted to another folder called "Norton AntiSpam Folder". Although it does not do what Big Lar is hoping for it does separate email from known spammer email addresses to another folder so they can easily be deleted en masse. There is also an easy way to tell Norton AntiSpam that the current email is spam and it automatically places this email address on the "block" list and moves this email to the AntiSpam folder. > > do not archive > > Thom in Buffalo > >


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    Time: 07:04:16 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Messages
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Shoulda read this before I sent that last one. I'll check it out. Thanks. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Messages > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> > > Larry Bourne wrote: > > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > > >Sorry this isn't exactly Kolb related, but................ I'm using dial up connections in campgrounds now, and spam is giving me fits, locking my computer up for long periods while they download, or Norton checks them, or whatever. Is there a way to tell the computer to by-pass the current incoming message and go on to the rest ?? Same if someone sends me a long attachment. I'd like to just say, "bypass this one" and get on with it. I use Outlook Express. Thanks Lar. Do not Archive. > > > >Larry Bourne > >Palm Springs, CA > >Building Kolb Mk III > >N78LB Vamoose > >www.gogittum.com > > > > I don't use Outlook for a variety of reasons (mostly I prefer the 'feel' > of Netscape, but also due to Outlook's vulnerability to viruses & worms) > but here's a quick shot of what you can do to solve the problem: tell > Outlook you want to 'download headers only'. > > If you use a regular internet provider, call their tech support (most > offer 24/7 support) & ask them to walk you through the settings. The > phrase 'download headers only' or the phrase 'server based email access' > should get the tech help person on the same page


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    Time: 08:59:54 AM PST US
    Subject: screwed up?
    From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
    06/22/2004 11:59:18 AM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Uncle Craig: In addition to what John H. has said, I would add that RPM below 1800 should be avoided on the 912 as it is very hard on the gear box. Keep us informed regarding the first flight. Erich Weaver


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    Time: 10:06:43 AM PST US
    From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com>
    Subject: Fw: start engine(oil purge912 uls)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com> -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: start engine(oil purge912 uls) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> John and Gang, Yes, uncle Craig as well as I have waited for this day to bring life to the ULS engine. It was exciting and fun to crank it up and have it run. It just seems to be a big jump forward toward flying after working on this long building project the past few years. Uncle Craig is a little off on our actual temps. Our oil temp hovered around 225F, but never exceeded 230F. Our CHT hovered around 245F. EGTs I think hovered around 1245F. H20 hovered in the 255F. John, what is the max on H20? The only two problems we encountered was one EGT was not working on a exhaust. We did have our coolant overflow bottle too close to the oil tank and burned a hole in it. John or others, we looked back in the archives and pitched our prop at 10.5 degrees. We never pushed our engine past 3500 rpm to see if we would hit 5400 rpm with this pitch. Are we about in the ballpark for pitch? We have the same blade set up as you. Man, at 3500 rpm I told Craig to back off that plane wanted to fly. It is amazing to see sooooo muuuuch power coming off that engine! We will try for the 5400rpm this saturday. Tim Max oil temp for the ULS is 266F. Max CHT for ULS is 284F. Rotax allows the 912 to run higher max temps, 285F for oil and 300 for CHT. G Good luck, john h PS: You must have gotten the fuel pump gasket. I may have had it sent to an old address.


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    Time: 10:12:15 AM PST US
    From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com>
    Subject: screwed up?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com> Erich, Thanks for the RPM info. We did have a funny little transition sound come out of the gear box around 1700 rpm? Does anyone know the max on H20 or EGT? Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Subject: Kolb-List: screwed up? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Uncle Craig: In addition to what John H. has said, I would add that RPM below 1800 should be avoided on the 912 as it is very hard on the gear box. Keep us informed regarding the first flight. Erich Weaver


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    Time: 11:20:24 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: start engine(oil purge912 uls)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Our oil temp hovered around 225F, but never exceeded 230F. | Our CHT hovered around 245F. | EGTs I think hovered around 1245F. | H20 hovered in the 255F. | | John, what is the max on H20? Hi Tim/Gang: The temps sound much better. Coolant temperature does not enter into the equation. There is no need to know what the coolant temp is. Your only concern should be CHT, which is metal temp of the cylinder head. Instructions per Erick Tucker, Rotax 912 school 2000 and 2004. There are no parameters for coolant temp. | John or others, we looked back in the archives and pitched our prop at 10.5 degrees. We never pushed our engine past 3500 rpm to see if we would hit 5400 rpm with this pitch. Are we about in the ballpark for pitch? We have the same blade set up as you. Sorry, I can not remember what mine is pitched at, but will take the protractor with me to the airstrip and measure for you. Take care, john h


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    Time: 11:22:12 AM PST US
    From: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
    Subject: screwed up?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> Hi Tim and Gang, I haven't looked it up in the manual to be sure but here are the temps that John Russell had on a placard in his Slingshot when I bought the 912S from him. Oil temp--min. 120 max. 266 normal 190-230 Cht max.--284 Egt max.--1616 Hope this will give you an idea of the range it needs to be in. Later, John Cooley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gherkins Tim-rp3420 Subject: RE: Kolb-List: screwed up? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 --> <rp3420@freescale.com> Erich, Thanks for the RPM info. We did have a funny little transition sound come out of the gear box around 1700 rpm? Does anyone know the max on H20 or EGT? Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Subject: Kolb-List: screwed up? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Uncle Craig: In addition to what John H. has said, I would add that RPM below 1800 should be avoided on the 912 as it is very hard on the gear box. Keep us informed regarding the first flight. Erich Weaver == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 11:22:23 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: screwed up?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | | Tim Tim/Gang: I do not know what EGT parameters are. I do not monitor EGT. My two 912 engines seem to perform well without me knowing that particular bit of info, same for water temp. :-) john h


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    Time: 12:21:21 PM PST US
    From: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com>
    Subject: 912 ULS temps?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com> John and John, Thanks for the info, I will note it. John H. sure appreciate the degree pitch info. Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Cooley Subject: RE: Kolb-List: screwed up? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> Hi Tim and Gang, I haven't looked it up in the manual to be sure but here are the temps that John Russell had on a placard in his Slingshot when I bought the 912S from him. Oil temp--min. 120 max. 266 normal 190-230 Cht max.--284 Egt max.--1616 Hope this will give you an idea of the range it needs to be in. Later, John Cooley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gherkins Tim-rp3420 Subject: RE: Kolb-List: screwed up? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 --> <rp3420@freescale.com> Erich, Thanks for the RPM info. We did have a funny little transition sound come out of the gear box around 1700 rpm? Does anyone know the max on H20 or EGT? Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Subject: Kolb-List: screwed up? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Uncle Craig: In addition to what John H. has said, I would add that RPM below 1800 should be avoided on the 912 as it is very hard on the gear box. Keep us informed regarding the first flight. Erich Weaver == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 02:46:45 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Messages
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> You might be able to sort that stuff out with www.emailanywhere.com I've used it when my puter was acting up. I think that's the proper address but not sure. My service also lets me delete right out of there office but most places won't allow that. If your in a small town, Ask them for the way into the main server. Do Not Archive Dan Charter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Messages > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > I've got a set-up now that separates the spam and lets me look it over > before deleting it, but my current problem is with long downloads plugging > things up. I'd like to be able to do something like "cancel current > download," and go to the next one, but so far I haven't seen anything > that'll let me do that. It was suggested that I go to AOL, but I'm > sorry..............I just can't stand it. Lar. Do > not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > To: <Kolb-List@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Messages > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > > > > I just upgraded to Norton's 2004 Internet Security product with the > anti-spam feature. It does not block spam from being downloaded. With your > input it creates a "block" list and "allowed" list. Email from "allowed" > email addresses is downloaded to your inbox as well as all those not on the > "block" list. Emails from addresses on the "block" list are also downloaded > but diverted to another folder called "Norton AntiSpam Folder". Although it > does not do what Big Lar is hoping for it does separate email from known > spammer email addresses to another folder so they can easily be deleted en > masse. There is also an easy way to tell Norton AntiSpam that the current > email is spam and it automatically places this email address on the "block" > list and moves this email to the AntiSpam folder. > > > > do not archive > > > > Thom in Buffalo > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:06:24 PM PST US
    From: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 06/21/04
    pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------------- --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com> In the latest issue of Ultralight Flying there is an article about the Rotax 503 exchange upgrade program. Did I miss something. Why is Rotax offering an exchange? Vic


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    Time: 03:06:38 PM PST US
    From: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Fw: [Canards] EZ's at the Mojave Space Launch
    pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------------- --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com> This came from my EAA Chapter. Thought it might be of interest. To keep it Kolb related, I thought John H might try putting a rocket on his plane and going for a new record! Jim Mark III Charlotte, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronnie Brown Subject: Fw: [Canards] EZ's at the Mojave Space Launch A first person account of yesterday's Space Launch. ----- Original Message ----- From: Flying Tiger Subject: [Canards] EZ's at the Mojave Space Launch A group of us NorCal EZ flyers flew down June 20th the day before the launch. Some even arrived two days early just to "scope" out the place and get the inside track on what to expect. We knew that MHV (Mojave) airport had a 7 mile TFR around it so my EZ Flight of 3 EZ's landed at Lancaster's Willy J. Fox Field instead. By the way, the top of the TFR airspace did turn out to be FL200...meaning exactly that...20,000 feet. I'm sure the thinking was a sort of high cap on the TFR would discourage the aerial gawkers and it worked. Later we found we could have used Rosamond airport which also had a car rental available and it is 12 miles closer than WJF (Willy J. Fox). We drove up to Mojave to check into the motel and then around the airport to get a bite to eat at the "Voyager Cafe". There's lots of Rutan memorabilia in the place. There's even a LongEz sandwich on the menu! Paul Werner and Bill Kroger had arrived the day earlier and gave us the tour. The airport's south eastern corner was selected as the general viewing area and parking would be and was adequate. I did find the emptiness of this place very odd. There was hardly a motor home on the field and no one in town. I said to myself more than once that maybe they had over anticipated the crowd numbers and after all it is a normal work day and in the middle of the Mojave Desert. Later we took a short drive down to Rosamond's Golden Cantina arriving around 5:30 PM. The Cantina is located on south side and east end of the Rosamond airports runway 25. They even have their own aircraft parking area in front of patio seating which is where we were quickly placed. Soon the Canard people from all over starting arriving. It was nice to see some of my old bud's again and just as nice to finally put a face to some I'd never met before. By the end of the evening I'd guess at least 25 to 30 EZ people had come and gone. As the clock turned past 3:00 AM I awoke and noticed the night desert winds were still blowing. Later I learned the native Indian word for wind here in the high desert is "Mojave". I took a peak outside the window and was startled to see a line of cars passing the in front of the motel. All bumper to bumper gently moving along at a good but slow pace. It was apparent now that "if you build it, they will come"....remember the scene out of the movie Field of Dreams....exactly that. We quickly hustled up and headed out the door and jumped in the line. The night air was cool but not too cool. Light jacket weather foretelling the heat that was yet to come later in the day's high sun. The line of cars at this point had to miles and miles long. The organizers kept the flow moving and we quickly found ourselves parked and heading for our soon to be personal viewing area at the end of Runway 30. It appears the MHV airport has built a new taxiway just for this and future Space Port viewing activities. I checked my AirChart airport diagram of MHV and the newly constructed taxiway is not yet there. Quickly the sun rose and right on schedule (6:35 AM) White Knight carrying Space Ship One under it's belly, taxied by the crowd with Mike Melville waving his arm out the one of the little starboard side windows. The chase planes were quickly launched which consisted of what looked like an aerobatic Extra or Edge and a Beech Starship. There was already a jet trainer Buckeye flying overhead which must of come from somewhere else. A few minutes later and White Knight with Space Ship One firmly attached roared down runway 30, lifted off and started a series of gentle right and left turns over the top of the airport closely followed by the Starship. As the moment drew near for the drop the aircraft were positioned directly below the fast rising sun which made picture taking and viewing nearly impossible. Many people had the air to air freq tuned in (123.375) and were listening intently. Soon the word came that the Space Ship had been released followed by "engine ignite". At that moment we all saw the smoke quickly rising below, then straight though the middle and out the top of the brightly glowing sun. Up, up and away it rose faster and faster until 80 seconds passed and the engine was spent. What seemed a long time later we heard a couple of high and very distant sonic booms and the crowd roared. We hear over the radio Mike activating the "feather" and then retracting it once back in the earths atmosphere. It was at that point we could all now see the for real now "space ship" returning to earth. It was quickly joined by the Starship and the jet trainer high over the airport. At one point I heard Mike say over the radio that it was great to see the jets along side and he could even hear their engines as he was now officially a glider. Soon he called "High Key and 103 knots" and turned to line back up on MHV's runway 30 being led by the little aerobatic plane down to the runway. Mike make a beautiful landing where it was gently towed into the press viewing arena. The rest as you know is history and we were all happy to have played a very small part in just being there. Mike Melville can now carry the distinction of being the first "civilian astronaut" along with being a homebuilder and EZ pilot. Tim LoDolce VEZE Truckee Tahoe EAA TecCounslr/FltAdvsr Canards mailing list Canards@tnstaafl.net http://mail.tnstaafl.net/mailman/listinfo/canards_tnstaafl.net


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    Time: 03:35:16 PM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fw: [Canards] EZ's at the Mojave Space Launch
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com Flykolb, you wrote: This came from my EAA Chapter. Thought it might be of interest. To keep it Kolb related, I thought John H might try putting a rocket on his plane and going for a new record! It might be interesting to note that back in the early 80's I was torn between building two airplanes, LONG-EZ or KOLB. Hard choice, I went with the EZ. Back then Mike and Sally Melville had the hard job of builder phone support. I talked with them often and had the pleasure of showing them my completed EZ (N27SB s/n 1592) in 1985. I flew it for about 750 hours and sold it. It now lives in Key West, FL. After 20 years I now get to build the 2nd half of my dream, which is a MKIII Classic. Now that's what I call two ends of the rainbow. I am really amazed at the builder support available on this list and I can't wait to take advantage of it as I get farther along. So really, EZs and Kolbs are related, they are both fine examples of aircraft at opposite ends of the spectrum. Steve Boetto Building N272SB, MKIII Classic (Taz) Longwood, FL do not archive


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    Time: 03:41:11 PM PST US
    From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Sat Phone Replaces PLB
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Good deal, John! "Can you hear me? ... Good!" Can't wait to hear about your trip. Best, Cory DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Subject: Kolb-List: Sat Phone Replaces PLB --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi All: A friend has donated an Iridium Sat Phone to use for the Alaska Flight. I appreciate everyone's help with the PLB problem. Thanks very much, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 04:40:45 PM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: Rotax 503 exchange program
    pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------------- --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com> A copy of the exchange program letter is available at www.KolbPilot.com > In the latest issue of Ultralight Flying there is an article about the Rotax > 503 exchange upgrade program. Did I miss something. Why is Rotax offering > an exchange? > > Vic > >


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    Time: 05:28:54 PM PST US
    From: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: Messages
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net> Dan mentioned the "Email Anywhere" source of email control for you. Here is the website to use as a starting point to acquire an account: http://www.hermit.cz/emailanywhere.html Good luck, George ---


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    Time: 06:05:16 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: fuselage jig
    pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------------- --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Hi fellow Kolbers and future builders, Last night I was able to use the jig for the fuselage I made. It took some welding and cutting to make but was well worth the effort. Now I can rotate the fuselage 360 degrees and roll it out into the paint area and sand blasting area for final prep. http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P6210001.JPG Notice how being able to position the fuselage in any position aids in the drilling and inserting the "Tube Seal" and closed end rivets. http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P6210001.JPG http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P6210004.JPG I can also rotate the fuselage 360 degrees at intervals to allow the tube seal to find any cracks or pin holes in welds. http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P6210005.JPG When I ordered the covering from Jim @ aircraft tech support I ordered only 30 closed end rivets. The Kolbra has some 60+ tubes that need tube seal for this climate due to high humidity and salt water in the atmosphere. One can place these closed in rivets in places that will never be seen. As of today I only have found 2 welds on the airframe that were missed. I can sew these up with our new Lincoln 185 TIG machine. Well that's Ms. Dixie at this point....headed to surgically remove the flaperon handle from the cage and check for further weld leakage of the tube seal! Parting shot of the closed end rivets in the structure..... http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P6210007.JPG Later guys Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp


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    Time: 09:36:08 PM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Long EZ's n Kolbs
    name@matronics.com, description@matronics.com, ----@matronics.com, ----------------------@matronics.com, -------------------------------------------@matronics.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 06/22/2004 6:35:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N27SB@aol.com writes: It might be interesting to note that back in the early 80's I was torn between building two airplanes, LONG-EZ or KOLB. Hard choice, I went with the EZ. Back then Mike and Sally Melville had the hard job of builder phone support. I talked with them often and had the pleasure of showing them my completed EZ (N27SB s/n 1592) in 1985. I flew it for about 750 hours and sold it. It now lives in Key West, FL. After 20 years I now get to build the 2nd half of my dream, which is a MKIII Classic. Now that's what I call two ends of the rainbow. I am really amazed at the builder support available on this list and I can't wait to take advantage of it as I get farther along. So really, EZs and Kolbs are related, they are both fine examples of aircraft at opposite ends of the spectrum. Steve Boetto Building N272SB, MKIII Classic (Taz) Longwood, FL Now there is a marriage of contrasts and a neat story, Steve, thanks. George Randolph Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl gettin close to buyin a trailer to pull the puppy down from Warren, Ohio




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