Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/28/04


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 03:33 AM - Re: Back in the Air!!! (Denny Rowe)
     2. 03:48 AM - Re: Safety Pin Bending (Denny Rowe)
     3. 04:01 AM - safety pins (Ted Cowan)
     4. 04:05 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 06/25/04 (Ted Cowan)
     5. 05:41 AM - Re: Safety Pin Bending (Christopher Armstrong)
     6. 06:07 AM - tailwheel boogey (Bob Bean)
     7. 06:15 AM - Firefly taxi update (Guy Morgan)
     8. 07:31 AM - Re: Firefly taxi question (Beauford)
     9. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Safety Pin (Steve Kroll)
    10. 07:49 AM - Re: Back in the Air!!! (Steve Kroll)
    11. 07:56 AM - Re: Firefly taxi question (Robert Laird)
    12. 08:22 AM - Re: Back in the Air!!! (Don Gherardini)
    13. 08:27 AM - Re: Alaska 2004 (Don Gherardini)
    14. 08:55 AM - Alaska (Jim Hauck)
    15. 09:23 AM - Re: Firefly taxi update (jerb)
    16. 09:43 AM - Re: Firefly taxi question (jerb)
    17. 11:08 AM - Re: Firefly taxi question (Richard Pike)
    18. 11:46 AM - Re: Back in the Air!!! (bryan green)
    19. 11:55 AM - Re: Open Cockpit Flying, Radio, and Wind Noise (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM)
    20. 03:49 PM - Re: Back in the Air!!! (bryan green)
    21. 05:11 PM - Re: SlingShot Attitude (Richard Swiderski)
    22. 06:53 PM - Re: Firefly taxi update (Dan Charter)
    23. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Open Cockpit Flying, Radio, and Wind Noise (Larry Bourne)
    24. 08:52 PM - Re: Safety Pin Bending (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:33:43 AM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Back in the Air!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> You da man Don! Good job in getting back in the air so quick. Denny do not archive


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    Time: 03:48:01 AM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Safety Pin Bending
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> > Frankly, I probably will never fly again with a clevis in this location. > I will probably change to bolts for the lower strut attach points. This will > be a pain in the you know what. > What do you guys think? > > M. Domenic Perez > FS II, 503 Dom, I don't know what might be causing this to happen on your bird, on my Mk-3, I use AN bolts with castle nuts with safety rings in place of all clevis pins, it is not very much more work to remove them, and the security is priceless. The ones that don't get removed when folding the bird get cotter pins. Of course make sure you still preflight carefully, as the problem clip might still be getting bumped by something unforseen, such as a dog scratching his back, or a small child stepping up on the gear leg to look in your bird.. Good luck, I hope you find the cause as I can imagine its a little disturbing. Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA


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    Time: 04:01:19 AM PST US
    From: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
    Subject: safety pins
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com> howdy folks. just want to add a couple of hints I have developed over the years about those so called safety pins vs rings. If you stop and think about it, anything that can move will wear out!! I fold my planes regularly, both the good ole firestar and the new slingshot, for transport to places for even a greater appreciation of this world. Anyway, I use nylon tie straps, small ones, and stick it thru the hole in the pin and then back and under or between the structure and the pin and put it tight. It keeps the pins from moving, is easily removed and lasts at least a year if you want it on that long. Your pins stay in the same location all the time for easy pre-flight checking. I use the same method for the rings to keep them stable and not moving. takes only a minute to install, eight on my firestar and six on my slingshot. works for me. Anybody contemplating drilling holes in a very expensive thermostat should contact the service department of CPS and have a chat with the techs there. The 582 blue head has a different, improved water system and they have some good advice about it. The thermostat is totally different and has a built in by-pass system. They rebuild and sell rotax engines and warantee them and they wont lie to you. They know what they are doing. Professional advice from people who do this all the time is a lot more reliable than someone who likes to save money by modifying something until it fails and then backing off a tad. I dont trust the advise from someone who doesnt do the job professionally. It is your butt on the line, get the RIGHT info. I have listened to all the wanna bee mechs out there and then I talked with them and got the REAL skinny. Up to you. Dont mean to degrade anyone there but we should all get the very best advice available and all I am saying is talk to the people who seem to know best. my two cents. Now, to the guy with the firefly who is having trouble getting used to the tail dragger. Having flown most of the kolbs and recently putting my sling shot into the air, I can say that you probably arent going to be able to do the nice beautiful crow hops with the firefly you could with a firestar because of the short coupling. I found you cannot do it with a slingshot. It becomes very unstable at lower speeds with the tail up. You either have to abort whatever it is you are trying to do or hit the power and take off. I will tell you and hopefully get it verified, that once you are flying and set up for landing, it wont give you the problem you invision right now. You need to power it up and get it off the mains or fly it, not high speed taxi it with the tail up. You have to be consistent with the P-factor or it will walk you all over the runway. Overcorrecting the rudder will land you in the fields next to the runway in a heartbeat or spin you out (as is the case with the caster wheel I have) Hope this helps. I have a lot of experience in these here wonderful kolbs, from circa '86 which is for sale right now, Mk IIs and IIIs, Kolbra at the factory (very good intro flight to help get my head aligned before my maiden on the slingshot) to the slingshot. Good luck, relax and flow with it, wear it, dont fly it. Feel the plane. Ted Cowan. Firestar for sale can be seen at www.homestead.com/southernflyers . My twenty cents.


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    Time: 04:05:56 AM PST US
    From: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 06/25/04
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com> anyway if I remember right, but I think older thermostats did not. Check out this blurb here. http://www.ultralightnews.ca/rotax532/thermostatinstallation.htm So it is possible that maybe you have a thermostat with no holes in it, so I think drilling two small holes about 1/16" diameter and 1/8" apart is about This section here is for the OLD thermostats with the older version of 582s. The new blue head has a DIFFERENT thermostate and you should never run without it. It has a built in bypass. ted.


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    Time: 05:41:07 AM PST US
    From: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Safety Pin Bending
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" <tophera@centurytel.net> I think that if you haven't added spacers on either side of the lift strut that the lift strut could be moving back and forth in the fitting, pulling on the clevis hard enough that it deforms the pin. If you already have the spacers to keep the lifts strut centered then never mind... Topher -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of M. Domenic Perez Subject: Kolb-List: Safety Pin Bending --> Kolb-List message posted by: "M. Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net> List, Now that we are on the subject of safety pins, I have a situation that I now think could be potentially very hazardous and am soliciting all your opinions. Twice now I've found the safety pin on my lower left strut slightly bent, as if to indicate that the clevis tried to depart the hole - tried to depart hard enough to bend the safety pin! I have not been in any tall grass that could have somehow caught on it, but I do operate off a fairly rough natural turf field (prairie to be exact, but a relatively smooth patch of it). The first time I found it bent and replaced it, I didn't think that much about it, but now that I've found the same thing has happened to the new safety pin, I've gotten a little spooked. What the dickens could cause enough force to be applied to the clevis in the removal direction that would bend the dang safety pin? If it was my bumpy field, why is it happening to only that location? Could a building error cause something like this? What should I check? I did not build my plane. Frankly, I probably will never fly again with a clevis in this location. I will probably change to bolts for the lower strut attach points. This will be a pain in the you know what. What do you guys think? M. Domenic Perez FS II, 503 bumpy field that's the best I've got near the house here at the ranch near Vaughn, NM I guess this problem and any good answers should go in the archives.


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    Time: 06:07:40 AM PST US
    From: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: tailwheel boogey
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Group, first thing to do to get used to your new, or new to you taildragger is learn to S-turn. Paved or not, you will learn more about how it responds by taking the long way to the other end. In a larger, more squirrelly plane than a Kolb you will notice how much more unstable they are in decelleration. SPRINGS, are a big deal. To get the right ones, at the right tension is a challenge. I still don't have mine exactly where I want 'em. -And it IS a big deal, losing it in the wrong place can be an expensive event. After a while the rudder pedal dance becomes an unconscious response. Practice. -BB do not archive.


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    Time: 06:15:37 AM PST US
    From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Firefly taxi update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com> Howdy Kolbers, Thanks for all the great inputs. I got to work early this AM and fired up the Fly. Today went MUCH better than Saturday. I guess I freaked out too soon. Kept her pretty straight for about 5 or 6 runs down a 5000' runway, with about a 4-5 mph headwind. Had the tailwheel up each time (I think.) I'm getting to where I can correct by feel, instead of trying to think about it too much, and it goes much better. Also, knowing about that hard left when you back off the throttle helped. A few more days of good practice, like today, and I think I'll be ready to commit aviation. One more question.....today I was taxiing at 30-35 mph IAS. Should I stick to that speed 'till I'm ready to fly? I know she rotates at around 40 mph. I think if I taxi any faster, I may end up in the air before I'm ready. Thanks again folks. Guy Morgan Galveston, TX Firefly driver


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    Time: 07:31:01 AM PST US
    From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Firefly taxi question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Brother Morgan: Some good advice has already been given to you by other Listers about how to rule out some possible mechanical issues... loose cables, wheel toe-in, etc... and getting off the pavement onto grass always helps... If you suspect your particular airplane is not quite right in the way it handles, you might consider having an experienced ultralight tailwheel driver check it out for you... That person can likely tell you what you have after just a couple of runs up and down the strip. But mechanical problems aside, the bottom line may well be that your Fly is just acting normally, like a little tailwheel airplane... The veering tendency you describe is typical... it is interesting in calm air... it can abruptly get downright entertaining in breezy conditions... (actually the Firefly is a pretty mild actor as tailwheel birds go...) Tailwheel isn't particularly hard, once a person gets the hang of it, but it is certainly DIFFERENT, and it takes a somewhat different 3-axis skill set to consistently get one on and off the ground safely, particularly in crosswinds. I am assuming from your post that you have limited tailwheel experience... If this assumption is accurate, my personal 2 cents worth is that you ought to go get 4 or 5 hours of tailwheel dual with a GOOD and thoughtful instructor in a light tailwheel airplane.... the lighter the better. A competent tailwheel instructor can usually get the average transition student (one with prior pilot training only in nosewheel airplanes) past the "interesting" phase of the tailwheel 3-dimensional directional control issue in about 4 hours, including a little crosswind technique work. Trying to teach yourself tailwheel technique in a single seat airplane by reading e-mails between training "events" just doesn't make sense... somewhat analogous to teaching yourself to remove your own appendix.... The loudest and most painful silence you could ever experience in your single place airplane would be the one where you DON'T hear an instructor say "I've got it...!!" just before something kinetic happens... and that traditional instructor's cry can normally be heard to echo across the airfield at least once or twice with each average tailwheel transition student. Long story short -- If you have no prior tailwheel experience, I think the odds are clearly working against you and there is a reasonable chance you may bang up your nice little Kolb, and possibly yourself, in the learning process... Why not think of it this way; You invested all that time and money getting this far with your airplane building project, now go ahead and finish the final one percent of the project by investing just a tad more in a little dual for yourself before something preventable happens. Besides, the training should be fun and will take most of the angst out of learning to handle your own bird. A man checking out the airworthiness of a newly built airplane ought to be free to focus on the condition of his machine, rather than being preoccupied about whether he is going to be able to keep it over in the vicinity of the airstrip when he attempts to land it... I don't mean to sound "preachey"...(no offense, Brother Pike)... I'll shut up and sit down... My opinion is worth what ye paid fer it, Guy... Good Luck, whatever you decide to do. Do Not Archive Beauford The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL FF 076 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com> > . Started doing some higher speed taxi runs in my Firefly today. Man, does it ever get squirrely with the tailwheel up. Is it just something I need practice at, or is there something I can do to make it more stable? Soon as the tailwheel comes up it wants to veer off one way or the other . I'm on a 5000' paved runway with little or no wind. before I take Thanks for your input. > > > Guy Morgan > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:43:40 AM PST US
    From: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Safety Pin
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com> Bruce, My safety pins never failed...I just didn't like the look of them. In my Mk2, the holes for the wing pins (at the fusalage) are slanted about 20 degrees vertical. The only way you can put the pin through the holes is from the bottom side. That means that if the safety ever failed, it would be likely that the pin would exit the holes because of gravity. That always bothered me a lot. Steve ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:49:00 AM PST US
    From: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Back in the Air!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com> Don, I've been asent for awhile. What is a "Flagfly" ? Steve ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:56:45 AM PST US
    From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Firefly taxi question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> Beauford -- At 09:30 AM 6/28/2004, you wrote: >If you suspect your particular airplane is not quite right in the way it >handles, >you might consider having an experienced ultralight tailwheel driver check >it out for you... That person can likely tell you what you have after just a >couple of runs up and down the strip. Actually, that was me! <g> I did a few touch-n-go's right after it was assembled and it seemed to behave like (as you so aptly described) "a normal, little tailwheel airplane." One wheel is just ever so slightly out of nominal alignment, but it didn't seem to have any effect when I was taking off or landing. >my personal 2 cents worth is that you ought >to go get 4 or 5 hours of tailwheel dual with a GOOD and thoughtful >instructor in a light tailwheel airplane.... the lighter the better. While good advice, there are no instructors in the Houston area that I or Guy are aware of that can do that kind of transitional training in a light, 2-seat tailwheel aircraft. I can give him rides and let him practice in my tailwheel experimental, but there is about 1,000 pounds of difference between the two craft, and not the best way to do it. As for the rest of your comment, it's all very good and I agree completely. Guy is a careful, purposeful, and prudent individual and given that no effective transitional training is available, he's proceeding the only way available. -- Robert


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    Time: 08:22:50 AM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Back in the Air!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Steve....hehe...well......I cannot remember just which one of these bandits here on this list tagged my bird with that name..but it kinda stuck!..but It is a Kolb FireFly......as for the Flagfly nickname...click on the link below my sig and it will pretty well become evident for you. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:27:34 AM PST US
    From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: Alaska 2004
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> GodSpeed to you John, and all the boys departing for the north land.. Yesterday, as I was enjoying the skies myself in the FireFly....I couldnt help but think of you and yearn to be along. I will be thinking of you all and praying you all enjoy a wonderful experience. cannot wait to hear the de-brief's! Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:55:04 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Alaska
    1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received: date --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> Folks; Talked to bro John a short while ago and he Ron'd at Denver, Co last nite. He was getting ready to take off for Leadville, Co. M's Pifer is doing fine. Jim Hauck


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    Time: 09:23:32 AM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Firefly taxi update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Guy, You don't need to go any faster - you have the tail up - this is sharpening your instinctive reactions. Much faster and it will get light and can fly off - problem is most people panic and slam it back down and bust the airplane. You'll know when things feel right on a day when theres a light wind. On that final tail up run you'll reach down and slowly feed that throttle handle all the way forward while feeling it out. Even feeding in the throttle slowly it will accelerate quickly. Be ready for the P-factor. It will not take long with a slight back pressure on the stick and you'll be airborne. Remember have it fueled up before you do any taxi practice. Don't shove the throttle in to fast until you get more time and better acquainted with the plane as it will accelerate very quickly and when it does things start happening much faster. You want to stay up with the airplane and not get behind it. You skill level will build and as it does you can push it harder. jerb At 01:15 PM 6/28/04 +0000, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com> > > >Howdy Kolbers, > > >Thanks for all the great inputs. I got to work early this AM and fired up >the Fly. Today went MUCH better than Saturday. I guess I freaked out too >soon. Kept her pretty straight for about 5 or 6 runs down a 5000' runway, >with about a 4-5 mph headwind. Had the tailwheel up each time (I think.) >I'm getting to where I can correct by feel, instead of trying to think >about it too much, and it goes much better. Also, knowing about that hard >left when you back off the throttle helped. A few more days of good >practice, like today, and I think I'll be ready to commit aviation. One >more question.....today I was taxiing at 30-35 mph IAS. Should I stick to >that speed 'till I'm ready to fly? I know she rotates at around 40 mph. I >think if I taxi any faster, I may end up in the air before I'm ready. >Thanks again folks. > > >Guy Morgan > > >Galveston, TX Firefly driver > >


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    Time: 09:43:59 AM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Firefly taxi question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> Robert and All, Judging by Guy's last post sounds like he's doing just fine. If he sticks to the plan I had sent him he should do well. Just take baby steps and progress as he builds confidence. Based upon his last post he's probably near making that final run and slowly feeding in more power to reach full throttle and takeoff speed. It will happen quickly so he needs to be ready. If he should start to loose control he should cut the throttle and just let it coast ahead steering to miss objects like runway lights. jerb At 09:55 AM 6/28/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> > > >Beauford -- > >At 09:30 AM 6/28/2004, you wrote: > >If you suspect your particular airplane is not quite right in the way it > >handles, > >you might consider having an experienced ultralight tailwheel driver check > >it out for you... That person can likely tell you what you have after just a > >couple of runs up and down the strip. > >Actually, that was me! <g> I did a few touch-n-go's right after it was >assembled and it seemed to behave like (as you so aptly described) "a >normal, little tailwheel airplane." One wheel is just ever so slightly out >of nominal alignment, but it didn't seem to have any effect when I was >taking off or landing. > > >my personal 2 cents worth is that you ought > >to go get 4 or 5 hours of tailwheel dual with a GOOD and thoughtful > >instructor in a light tailwheel airplane.... the lighter the better. > >While good advice, there are no instructors in the Houston area that I or >Guy are aware of that can do that kind of transitional training in a light, >2-seat tailwheel aircraft. I can give him rides and let him practice in my >tailwheel experimental, but there is about 1,000 pounds of difference >between the two craft, and not the best way to do it. > >As for the rest of your comment, it's all very good and I agree >completely. Guy is a careful, purposeful, and prudent individual and given >that no effective transitional training is available, he's proceeding the >only way available. > > -- Robert > >


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    Time: 11:08:22 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Firefly taxi question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Offended by "preachy?" Heavens, no. If all of us spent more time listening to good preachers, and less time listening to "talking heads," it's hard to say just how much better off the country might be. Not to mention reducing the sales of replacement Kolb parts... or runway lights... Richard Pike Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel http://www.bcchapel.org Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) FSII now along to one coat of Poly Brush do not archive At 10:30 AM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> > >Brother Morgan: >Some good advice has already been given to you by other Listers about how to >rule out some possible mechanical issues... <snip> >I don't mean to sound "preachey"...(no offense, Brother Pike)... I'll shut >up and sit down... My opinion is worth what ye paid fer it, Guy... Good >Luck, whatever you decide to do. > >Do Not Archive > >Beauford >The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL >FF 076 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com> > > >. Started doing some higher speed taxi runs in my Firefly today. Man, does >it ever get squirrely with the tailwheel up. Is it just something I need >practice at, or is there something I can do to make it more stable? Soon as >the tailwheel comes up it wants to veer off one way or the other . I'm on a >5000' paved runway with little or no wind. before I take Thanks for your >input. > > > > > > Guy Morgan > >


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    Time: 11:46:57 AM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Back in the Air!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Congratulations Don I know you are happy. Send me a picture from up there I've forgotten what it looks like. :~) Do not archive Bryan Green (Elgin SC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Back in the Air!!! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net> > > AHHH men....I logged a tenth less than 2 hours to day in the > FlagFly....wonderful day!....about 8 landings...3 airports and a grin that > is still stuck on my face..... > So wonderful to be skateing the angels lair again! > > Don Gherardini > FireFly 098 > http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 11:55:21 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: Open Cockpit Flying, Radio, and Wind Noise
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Larry Bourne wrote: << Jack, .............I personally don't need the mods you've described, since I have a Mk III, but I sure enjoy reading your posts. Thanks. Go-gittin' Lar >> Hey, Big Lar - I thought the reason was because you don't GET any wind noise in Vamoose! ;-) (Just ribbin' ya, amigo!) Sorry I missed you when you passed thru Albuquerque last week. Dennis Kirby do not archive


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    Time: 03:49:18 PM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Back in the Air!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Steve Flagfly is the handle Don picked for his Firefly that has a great looking flag paint pattern. You can see a picture of it at http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Kroll" <muso2080@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Back in the Air!!! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com> > > Don, > I've been asent for awhile. What is a "Flagfly" ? > Steve > > > --------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 05:11:34 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com>
    Subject: SlingShot Attitude
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com> Hello All, I am trying to nail down the slope of the oil pan I'm making for my 3-cyl turbo. First, I need to know where level is. Does anyone know what is the horizontal reference point on a SlingShot in flight attitude? This project has been a long time in the making. I'm starting to see daylight, but I'm worried that I might forget how to fly before its done ...or die of old age ... or worse have Big Lar beat me into the air. Thanks, Richard Swiderski


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    Time: 06:53:00 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Firefly taxi update
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com> Wow, That's pretty good. Didn't take you long at all. I'm not familiar with a Firefly but you have to be on the edge of flying. Be careful. My Firestar would be flying after 30mph. Do not archive. Dan Charter FS 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly taxi update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com> > > > Howdy Kolbers, > > > Thanks for all the great inputs. I got to work early this AM and fired up the Fly. Today went MUCH better than Saturday. I guess I freaked out too soon. Kept her pretty straight for about 5 or 6 runs down a 5000' runway, with about a 4-5 mph headwind. Had the tailwheel up each time (I think.) I'm getting to where I can correct by feel, instead of trying to think about it too much, and it goes much better. Also, knowing about that hard left when you back off the throttle helped. A few more days of good practice, like today, and I think I'll be ready to commit aviation. One more question.....today I was taxiing at 30-35 mph IAS. Should I stick to that speed 'till I'm ready to fly? I know she rotates at around 40 mph. I think if I taxi any faster, I may end up in the air before I'm ready. Thanks again folks. > > > Guy Morgan > > > Galveston, TX Firefly driver > >


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    Time: 08:30:45 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Open Cockpit Flying, Radio, and Wind Noise
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Man, talk about a multi-barreled response necessary........ :-) All the noise Vamoose has heard is the famous vroom vroom noises, but it's fun dreaming. Didn't pass thru ABQ, or I would've called. I took the back roads thru Socorro (??) and Roswell, then down thru Pecos, TX. Have fun in your - flying - Mk III. Wishful Thinking Lar, in Cullman, Alabama. Do not Archive. P.S. Went for my 1st ever ride in an RV-6 tonight with Tom Coggin. What a gas ! ! !..............what a hot rod ! ! ! Anyone wanna swap one for an - almost - completed Mk III ???? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Open Cockpit Flying, Radio, and Wind Noise > > Hey, Big Lar - > I thought the reason was because you don't GET any wind noise in Vamoose! > ;-) (Just ribbin' ya, amigo!) > Sorry I missed you when you passed thru Albuquerque last week. > Dennis Kirby > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:52:40 PM PST US
    From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Safety Pin Bending
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com In a message dated 6/28/04 1:09:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, perezmdomenic@plateautel.net writes: > Twice now I've found the safety pin on my lower left strut > slightly bent, as if to indicate that the clevis tried to depart the hole - > tried to depart hard enough to bend the safety pin! I assume by left, you mean as sitting in the plane. Otherwise, if it is actually on the right side (as sitting in the plane) perhaps you are putting your foot on it when pulling the rope start. Otherwise I would agree with some of the other responses, such as the strut moving fore and aft on the pin with enough force to try to slide the pin out of the hole, thus bending the pin (although I find it hard to believe that it could do that--but then again, stuff does happen). Bill Varnes Original FireStar Audubon, NJ




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