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1. 01:02 AM - Safety Pin Bending (M. Domenic Perez)
2. 03:16 AM - Re: Alaska (Airgriff2@aol.com)
3. 03:27 AM - Matco Brakes (Airgriff2@aol.com)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Matco Brakes (Jim Hauck)
5. 05:48 AM - Re: SlingShot Attitude (The Kuffels)
6. 05:53 AM - Re: Matco Brakes (The Kuffels)
7. 06:06 AM - Re: hand hold in wing (Don Gherardini)
8. 06:12 AM - Kolb-List " Taxi Practice " ! (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
9. 06:47 AM - Hitch in my git-along (Guy Morgan)
10. 06:56 AM - N# (Giovanni Day)
11. 07:50 AM - Re: Bing 54 overflow tubes (Jack & Louise Hart)
12. 08:32 AM - Re: hand hold in wing (bryan green)
13. 10:16 AM - Hauck Report (Bob N.)
14. 12:51 PM - Re: Hauck Report (bryan green)
15. 01:44 PM - still puttering (Bob Bean)
16. 01:54 PM - Re: Bing 54 overflow tubes (Denny Rowe)
17. 02:29 PM - kolb (boyd young)
18. 02:29 PM - unoficial kolb fly in 2005 (boyd young)
19. 02:46 PM - Re: Firefly taxi update (jerb)
20. 02:52 PM - Re: hand hold in wing (jerb)
21. 03:02 PM - Re: Hitch in my git-along (jerb)
22. 03:37 PM - OSH 04 (Scott Trask)
23. 06:00 PM - FireStar (John)
24. 09:06 PM - SlingShot Attitude, Ohio to Florida dilemma (GeoR38@aol.com)
25. 09:38 PM - MK3 (Rick Pearce)
26. 10:30 PM - Changing props and the FAA (Giovanni Day)
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| Subject: | Safety Pin Bending |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "M. Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
List,
I do NOT have spacers on my struts, and that makes the most sense - that
they are moving back and forth (remember my rough field?) and perhaps
binding on the clevis thus bending the safety pin. I will fabricate spacers
before I go to bolts and see if the problem goes away. What is the preferred
material to make them out of? Or can they be obtained from TNK?
I don't think I ever bent it by bracing my foot on it while pull
starting, because 98% of the time, I use the electric starter. No loose dogs
around either. I even removed the cattle from this pasture so they wouldn't
bother the plane while set up. The pasture needed a rest anyway. No children
or anyone else around to disturb anything - my nearest neighbor is 15 miles
away and my gates are locked.
Anyway, looks like strut spacers are the next step. Thanks to all.
M. Domenic Perez
FS II
Vaughn, NM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Jim, Thanks for the update on brother John. We do appreceiate you letting us
know how he is doing.
Bob Griffin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Hi Guys, I ordered my new brake pads from Matco. They had them availiable
mounted on the backing plates for $120 (2 wheels) or 4 pads and rivits for
$24. I'll be riviting mine on. 3 day shipping from Utah to NY (UPS orange).
pretty good!
ps Does anyone know who or how many joined John H. on the Alaska flight?
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Brakes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Bob and all;
Bro John is soloing it to Alaska.
Jim Hauck\
----- Original Message -----
From: <Airgriff2@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Matco Brakes
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
>
> Hi Guys, I ordered my new brake pads from Matco. They had them
availiable
> mounted on the backing plates for $120 (2 wheels) or 4 pads and rivits for
> $24. I'll be riviting mine on. 3 day shipping from Utah to NY (UPS
orange).
> pretty good!
> ps Does anyone know who or how many joined John H. on the Alaska flight?
> Fly Safe
> Bob Griffin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot Attitude |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Richard,
<<slope of the oil pan .. need to know where level is. Does anyone know
what is the horizontal reference point on a SlingShot in flight attitude?>>
Doubt if there is an "official" level on the Kolbs. However, all of
them use a position of up 9 degrees on the bottom of the wing (from back
to front) for weight and balance determinations. Suspect wherever +9
degrees puts the fuselage will be "level".
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar (when they stop cutting on my feet)
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Brakes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Bob,
<<Does anyone know who or how many joined John H. on the Alaska flight?>>
We all dropped out (literally in my case). John is making the trip solo
unless he meets someone along the way.
Expect him to be visiting here for a day or two at the end of the week.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Crashed Prospector, AOG Mooney, building Original FireStar (someday)
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| Subject: | Re: hand hold in wing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Bryan,
I used the Ace hardware and aviation supply gate handles for my handholds on
the wingtip bow...worked great. Had to grind a tad off the flat part that
you might call the "foot"...one each end due to the width being a little
more than the bow tube....2 rivets in each foot thru the bow tube...
wrapped em with chaff tape and they covered just fine.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
.
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| Subject: | Kolb-List " Taxi Practice " ! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
I too was doing Taxi Practice , and think I can share a couple of errors on
my part that lead to a broken airplane ... 1. Fly the area to become familiar
as to how to find the air strip ! 2 . Have a full load of fuel !
3. No mater what Drive as far as you have to , stay over night , what ever it
takes to get some dual ... !!!
As I found out ... I tried to do 2 hops in 3500 feet , 1/2 tank of fuel ,
grass strip (darned hard to find from the air ) after the second hop , pulled
back on the throttle , must have gotten a little gust of wind ,but found myself
70' in the air and the trees were coming up fast ... so it was FLY or crash !
So I flew ! Ran out of fuel trying to land ... Imitated a helicopter at 20 '
the gear snapped off and the sling seat and strong well built cage saved my
butt ... Aircraft damage minimal ..will fly over the field ...will get some dual
and WILL always have full fuel on board !!! ...Dave
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| Subject: | Hitch in my git-along |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
'Mornin Kolbers. Got out to do some taxi practice this AM in the Fly. Did 3 runs
down the runway and just about at the hold short line for my 4th runs had a
flat on my left main. At least it wasn't in the middle of the runway. Think I'll
go ahead and replace both tires. The right one is lookin a little thin too.
I want toinstall something more durable than the wheelbarrow tires that are on
it. Any recommendations on which ones to use?
Galveston, TX Fly Guy
From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Hello All,
It seems I have reached another goal. I now have an N# for my MKIII. Not
sure if this means they have accepted my letter of circumstance
regarding the loss of the original Bill of Sale from the old Kolb co. to
the original Kit owner, but I do have a number assigned and it says it
is valid in status. Thanks for everyone's help with the bill of sale
thing.
Giovanni
MKIII N-80566/912 Wing to be covered by my Bday 07/30
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| Subject: | Re: Bing 54 overflow tubes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 03:39 PM 6/25/04 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>Kolbers,
......................
>So, my question is, can everyone who has succesfully cured the oil drool
>problem with their Bing 54s, please describe how you arranged your plumbing
>to me?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
Denny,
I had similar problems with my Rotax 447 and the Simonini Victor 1+. At
first, I thought it was the float bowl vents. To be sure I used some tygon
tubing and a "Tee" fitting to bring the vent down into a bottle located in
the fuselage. Never got a drop. Then I started looking a little closer. I
discovered that I could wipe a drop of oil off the bottom of the air filter.
After a time I discovered it was a function of idle speed. If I taxied in
or out at a lower rpm the greater the chance of fuel dribble from the
filter. In my case much of the dribble ended up on top of the inner rear of
the right wing. I believe all other oil on the tail feathers comes from the
engine exhaust.
After installing the Victor 1+, I worked on the carb dribble problem. A
solution can be seen on the bottom of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly90.html
This dribble bib has been in place for the last 52 hours, and I have not had
to clean up the wing since it was installed. Occasionally, I have to clean
up the tail feathers, but I only do this when I wash the rest of the
FireFly.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: hand hold in wing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Thanks Don I'll check um out. I'm painting my 4130 legs now for final
assembly, so it will probably be the end of July when I get to wings. do not
archive
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: hand hold in wing
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Bryan,
>
> I used the Ace hardware and aviation supply gate handles for my handholds
on
> the wingtip bow...worked great. Had to grind a tad off the flat part that
> you might call the "foot"...one each end due to the width being a little
> more than the bow tube....2 rivets in each foot thru the bow tube...
> wrapped em with chaff tape and they covered just fine.
>
> Don Gherardini
> FireFly 098
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
> .
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Phone call from John H. an hour ago. He's OK at a 5000' unattended
gravel stip near Rock Springs, WY. Overnighted there under a wing after
landing at Rock Springs airport and leaving soon after, due arpt
"management" saying he couldn't sleep under his airplane! John said that
was only the second place, in all his many travels, that wouldn't allow
it. Some guys came by the gravel strip and took him for coffee. Not all
the locals are fecal movements.
Had been to Leadville, CO and found he needed a lot of runway to
get--and stay--airborne at one(?) of the highest airports in ZI. 9927'
Now enroute to Big Piney, WY that gives him the choice of 3100' of sod,
or 6800 hardtop--which he may use, considering the FE of almost 7000'.
Then on to visit old friends the Kuffels in Whitefish MT.
More when I know more.
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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| Subject: | Re: Hauck Report |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Thanks for keeping us informed Bob. do not archive
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Hauck Report
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
>
> Phone call from John H. an hour ago. He's OK>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Between the wind and the rain here in western NY I've managed to get some
tuning accomplished on the little suzuki. Every time I add a couple degrees
BTC I get some more static rpm. -At 30 now and run out of adjustment
swing on my cobbled up distributor, so I have to figure a way to get it up
to 32BTC. I was starting to feel a little unhappy but this progress got
my enthusiasm back. I called Earl Luce, the creator of the Buttercup clone
and several other experimentals, to have him take a looksee before I
call the Feds. -This guy is one clever mechanic, even though I must have
nearly 20 more solar orbits than him, I value his opinion.
Too many diversions to make steady progress, family picnics, obligations,
dentist. -What ever happened to all the time that a retired guy is sposed
to have? -BB do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bing 54 overflow tubes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Thanks for the reply Jack, I cured the air filter dribble last year by
leaning the idle circuit quite a bit, now the beast runs great and takes
throttle a whole lot better.
By looking at the overflow/breather tubes, we are pretty sure they are the
source of the oil, it seems the fuel is evaporating and leaving the oil
behind.
Richard Pike suggested checking for sunken floats so the next time out to
the airport, I will give em a look.
If I come up with a solution, I will let you all know, who knows, I may wind
up with the carb bibs yet, but as dry as my filters have been since leaning
her out, I don't think that is the problem.
Thanks again,
Denny
do not archive
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<morganguy@hotmail.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Thanks for all the great inputs. I got to work early this AM and fired up the Fly.
Today went MUCH better than Saturday. I guess I freaked out too soon. Kept
her pretty straight for about 5 or 6 runs down a 5000' runway, with about a 4-5
mph headwind. Had the tailwheel up each time (I think.) I'm getting to where
I can correct by feel, instead of trying to think about it too much, and it
goes much better. Also, knowing about that hard left when you back off the throttle
helped. A few more days of good practice, like today, and I think I'll be
ready to commit aviation. One more question.....today I was taxiing at 30-35
mph IAS. Should I stick to that speed 'till I'm ready to fly? I know she rotates
at around 40 mph. I think if I taxi any faster, I may end up in the air before
I'm ready. Thanks again folks.
Guy Morgan
i will bet that you could commit aviation at 30 to 35..... if you are comfortable
there keep at it..... that is fast enough to get the hang of the tail wheel.
remember just enough rudder pressure to get the results you are looking
for. once you can keep it straight then the progblem is "when do the wheels
touch" keep a mental picture of what you are looking at when taxing... on landing
when the sight picture matches what you are seeing the wheels should be
ready to touch the ground.
boyd
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| Subject: | unoficial kolb fly in 2005 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
everybody
been visiting with Erich Weaver about the unificial kolb fly in for 2005. History,,,
in 2002 he and i started a trip with some others and it got cut short
due to weather.... so in 2003 we decided to finish the trip.... but we dident
realy finish the trip... just one leg of the trip, monument valley, twice....
the next leg of the 2002 trip was to take us to Bryce Canyon National
Park. I propose that next year, 2005, we go there instead. there are simular
facilities as we have become use to. Ruby's Inn has a motel / rv / tent camping
/ pool / showers / restraunt / about 1 mile from the airport. i cant
remember if the shuttle bus runs to the airport or not..<sorry> you can drive
into the park or take the shuttle, once in the park you can hike to your hearts
content..... all hikes start on the rim and you hike down into the park then
back out. or you can take in the park from the rim trail.
my wife and i just returned back from there in our truck and trailor... and i
cant wait to see it from the air. we left the digital camera home but as soon
as we get some pictures developed i can post some on the web.
I have cast my vote, what say the rest of you.
bryce canyon airport
kbce
n 37 42 387
w 112 08 713
unicome 122.8
asos 135.47
runway hard surface 7400 x 75 about 7500 ft asl.
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly taxi update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Guy,
One thing I didn't mention was you normally will not be tail up for long
period in normal operation - the take off doesn't take very long. Normally
we WOULD NOT fire wall it on take off as the sudden P-factor can be
significant. Until you get more experience just feed the throttle in as it
develops speed, it easier to control the direction this way - we would get
it rolling and then get more aggressive on the throttle. You develop the
feel. If your where you can handle it tail up at reduced power setting -
your probably ready to aviate.
jerb
At 01:15 PM 6/28/04 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Howdy Kolbers,
>
>
>Thanks for all the great inputs. I got to work early this AM and fired up
>the Fly. Today went MUCH better than Saturday. I guess I freaked out too
>soon. Kept her pretty straight for about 5 or 6 runs down a 5000' runway,
>with about a 4-5 mph headwind. Had the tailwheel up each time (I think.)
>I'm getting to where I can correct by feel, instead of trying to think
>about it too much, and it goes much better. Also, knowing about that hard
>left when you back off the throttle helped. A few more days of good
>practice, like today, and I think I'll be ready to commit aviation. One
>more question.....today I was taxiing at 30-35 mph IAS. Should I stick to
>that speed 'till I'm ready to fly? I know she rotates at around 40 mph. I
>think if I taxi any faster, I may end up in the air before I'm ready.
>Thanks again folks.
>
>
>Guy Morgan
>
>
>Galveston, TX Firefly driver
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: hand hold in wing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Don,
Did you install them on the inside portion or the box tube rather than
protruding on the outside?
By "one each end" I assume your describing the mounting flange of each
handle, not two handles per end of the wing?
jerb
At 08:13 AM 6/29/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
>Bryan,
>
>I used the Ace hardware and aviation supply gate handles for my handholds on
>the wingtip bow...worked great. Had to grind a tad off the flat part that
>you might call the "foot"...one each end due to the width being a little
>more than the bow tube....2 rivets in each foot thru the bow tube...
>wrapped em with chaff tape and they covered just fine.
>
>Don Gherardini
>FireFly 098
>http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hitch in my git-along |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Guy,
The right one was just replaced before you bought it. The left one might
stand replacing as it is still original - call Lockwood Aviation with the
size and see what else they have that would fit that rim diameter and
width? Gary changed it but if I recall right what's on it are
tubeless. We have run those tires since Dec-97 without any problem. I
believe Lowe's building centers may carry that brand and size tire.
jerb
At 01:46 PM 6/29/04 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
>
>
>'Mornin Kolbers. Got out to do some taxi practice this AM in the Fly. Did
>3 runs down the runway and just about at the hold short line for my 4th
>runs had a flat on my left main. At least it wasn't in the middle of the
>runway. Think I'll go ahead and replace both tires. The right one is
>lookin a little thin too. I want toinstall something more durable than the
>wheelbarrow tires that are on it. Any recommendations on which ones to use?
>
>Galveston, TX Fly Guy
>
>
> From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting
> Married.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Trask <sctrask@diisd.org>
Hi Rick N. and List
Looking forward to seeing you and anyone else that would be interested in
flying into OSH with me. Last year was great! had a lot of fun.
If someone is coming from a different direction and doesn't want to fly all
the way up here, I have some places we could meet. That way you can fallow
me in and if I screw up in the pattern, I will not look too bad.
Scott Trask IMT MI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John <jleclercq@charter.net>
Does anyone know the whereabouts of my old FireStar?
It was white with red radial stripes (some call it starburst) on all the
feathers, had a 377 with a Second Chantz Softpack and won the Grand
Champion at Oshkosh '90.
I found a bunch of stuff that was for it, including a beautiful custom
seat cover. I would like to see this stuff get back in the plane for
which it was made for. Any info will be appreciated.
John L.
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| Subject: | SlingShot Attitude, Ohio to Florida dilemma |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 06/28/2004 8:12:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
swiderski@isp.com writes:
Hello All,
I am trying to nail down the slope of the oil pan I'm making for my
3-cyl turbo. First, I need to know where level is. Does anyone know what
is the horizontal reference point on a SlingShot in flight attitude?
This project has been a long time in the making. I'm starting to
see daylight, but I'm worried that I might forget how to fly before its done
...or die of old age ... or worse have Big Lar beat me into the air.
Thanks,
Richard Swiderski
wish I could help Rich, but I'm glad that you still have your sense of humor,
don't ever lose it. Forget everything I said about that 4x8 trailer that I
was considering buying on ebay to bring my Firestar to Florida from Ohio. I've
concluded a passing truck will just tip me over...booo!
The min price to come down by someone else driving something is $1650.....and
I say.....boooo! I sure would like to fly it but without a wingman, I'm too
sceered, besides, I don't trust my health. Am considering even selling it up
here and building a firefly down there. Will be comin back down in about a week,
I guess....I hope I have a conclusion before then.
George Randolph
Firestar driver from Akron/The Villages Fl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
I bit the bullet today and mailed Kolb my check for the #2 kit & tail boom
since the second hand wing kit was less the boom. I'm going to hold of ordering
the VW engine till after OSK. Richard said he was going to try to fly his in
weather permitting.
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| Subject: | Changing props and the FAA |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Hello fellow Kolbe's,
I have a sort of off topic question so, Do Not Archive. I have a fisher
classic that is N numbered and registered that I purchased about a month
ago. I had a condition inspection done today and the A&P being the
astute fellow he is noticed that the prop had been changed and only
logged in the aircraft log book. He says I have to go through the FSDO
and fill out a form, etc. What is the proper procedure? I know some of
you have done this and even changed motors. I do not have the
repairman's certificate. Thanks again for the support the list provides.
Giovanni Day
MKIII/912 N-80566
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